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** This is even in effect within the fanbase to a mild degree, as several of the [[BigNameFan senior historians and writers active in the community]], who provide valuable commentary on the earlier films and do painstaking work archiving and translating information from Japanese sources on their production, admit fully to a blatant disinterest in the recent films and related media.

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** This is even in effect within the fanbase to a mild degree, as several of the [[BigNameFan [[FandomVIP senior historians and writers active in the community]], who provide valuable commentary on the earlier films and do painstaking work archiving and translating information from Japanese sources on their production, admit fully to a blatant disinterest in the recent films and related media.


* In the 2010s, this attitude started getting directed toward Creator/{{Pixar}} due to them spending much of the decade creating sequels to their previous animated features rather than starting many new stories, with seven out of ten(!) films released between 2010 and 2019 being sequels. It's certainly [[DownplayedTrope a downplayed example]] as a number of said sequels were either something the Pixar fanbase had clamored for for years (''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'') and/or were critically acclaimed smash-hits upon release (such as ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' and the [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 two]] ''Toy Story'' [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 sequels]]), but regardless, by the end of the decade the fanbase was growing weary of the sequels and campaigned for Pixar to pursue more original story ideas, especially upon the announcement of the aforementioned ''Toy Story 4'' (which garnered a borderline hostile reaction from the fanbase, which questioned its necessity following ''3'', until it eventually [[WinTheCrowd won the crowd]]). When Pixar announced that their list of upcoming movies from ''WesternAnimation/{{Onward}}''...erm...[[IncrediblyLamePun onward]] were not going to be sequels to any of their previous movies, the Pixar fanbase was quite delighted.

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* In the 2010s, this attitude started getting directed toward Creator/{{Pixar}} due to them spending much of the decade creating sequels to their previous animated features rather than starting many new stories, with seven out of ten(!) films released between 2010 and 2019 being sequels. It's certainly [[DownplayedTrope a downplayed example]] as a number of said sequels were either something the Pixar fanbase had clamored for for years (''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'') and/or were critically acclaimed smash-hits upon release (such as ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' and ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'', the [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 two]] ''Toy Story'' [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 sequels]]), sequels]], and ''Incredibles 2'' again), but regardless, by the end of the decade the fanbase was growing weary of the sequels and campaigned for Pixar to pursue more original story ideas, especially upon the announcement of the aforementioned ''Toy Story 4'' (which garnered a borderline hostile reaction from the fanbase, which questioned its necessity following ''3'', until it eventually [[WinTheCrowd won the crowd]]). When Pixar announced that their list of upcoming movies from ''WesternAnimation/{{Onward}}''...erm...[[IncrediblyLamePun onward]] were not going to be sequels to any of their previous movies, the Pixar fanbase was quite delighted.



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* Fans of the ''Franchise/{{Terminator}}'' franchise hold only the first two movies in high regard. The [[Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay second movie]] tied up the franchise nicely; even if the ending was somewhat open-ended, the point was that there was now hope in a world with one of the bleakest futures imaginable. For any sequel to pick up where that film left off, however, a HappyEndingOverride is inevitable--which is ''exactly'' why ''[[Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines Rise of the Machines]]'', ''[[Film/TerminatorSalvation Salvation]]'' and ''especially [[Film/TerminatorDarkFate Dark Fate]]'' became {{Contested Sequel}}s. For there to be more Terminators, the bleak future has to be restored in some form or another and the message of the second movie, "There is no fate but what we make for ourselves", has to be ignored.


* Given how ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' is considered a SacredCow in many circles, some fans bash any continuation as a lazy cash-grabs. Granted there is some legitimacy to this sentiment as Creator/DCComics have been creating new sequels and adaptations of ''Watchmen'' against the wishes of Creator/AlanMoore in order to hold on to the [=IP=]. That said, several Watchmen sequel series like the comic ''ComicBook/DoomsdayClock'' and the HBO series ''Series/Watchmen2019'' are well-received by critics and fans.

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* Given how ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' is considered a SacredCow in many circles, some fans bash dismiss any continuation as a little more than lazy cash-grabs. Granted there is some legitimacy to this sentiment as Creator/DCComics have been creating new sequels and adaptations of ''Watchmen'' against the wishes of Creator/AlanMoore in order to hold on to the [=IP=]. That said, several Watchmen sequel series like the property. However, some fans still choose to ignore both [[Series/Watchmen2019 HBO series]] and [[ComicBook/DoomsdayClock comic ''ComicBook/DoomsdayClock'' and the HBO series ''Series/Watchmen2019'' are well-received by critics and fans.
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* Given how ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' is considered a SacredCow in many circles, some fans bash any continuation as a lazy cash-grabs. Granted there is some legitimacy to this sentiment as Creator/DCComics have been creating new sequels and adaptations of ''Watchmen'' against the wishes of Creator/AlanMoore in order to hold on to the [=IP=]. That said, several Watchmen sequel series like the comic ''ComicBook/DoomsdayClock'' and the HBO series ''Series/Watchmen2019'' are well-received by critics and fans.





* When Disney bought the rights to ''Franchise/StarWars'' and announced they were rebooting the franchise in 2014, including a new theatrical film trilogy that would serve as a sequel to the original and prequel trilogies, some fans were wary. Many people considered the main plot of ''Star Wars'' and particularly the story of the Skywalkers to be more or less done after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. While some works in the old Expanded Universe that tried to continue the story were well-received, others were...not. Some also feared a repeat of the [[ContestedSequel contentious]] Prequel Trilogy. However, other fans were on-board with the idea. [[Film/TheForceAwakens The]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] ended up being massively successful financially (when adjusted for inflation, ''The Force Awakens'' is the fourth highest-grossing film ever), although the critical reception has been far more mixed. One of the most common arguments is that the Sequel Trilogy [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks basically tells the same story]] as the Original Trilogy, also resulting in a major HappyEndingOverride.

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* Played with in the case of ''Franchise/StarWars''. When Disney bought the rights to ''Franchise/StarWars'' ''Star Wars'' and announced they were rebooting the franchise in 2014, including a new theatrical film trilogy that would serve as a sequel to the original and prequel trilogies, some fans were wary. Many people considered the main plot of ''Star Wars'' and particularly the story of the Skywalkers to be more or less done after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. While some works in the old Expanded Universe that tried to continue the story were well-received, others were...not. Some also feared a repeat of the [[ContestedSequel contentious]] Prequel Trilogy. However, other fans were on-board with the idea. [[Film/TheForceAwakens The]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] ended up being massively successful financially (when adjusted for inflation, ''The Force Awakens'' is the fourth highest-grossing film ever), although the critical reception has been far more mixed. One of the most common arguments is that the Sequel Trilogy [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks basically tells the same story]] as the Original Trilogy, also resulting in a major HappyEndingOverride.



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* When Disney bought the rights to ''Franchise/StarWars'' and announced they were rebooting the franchise in 2014, including a new theatrical film trilogy that would serve as a sequel to the original and prequel trilogies, some fans were wary. Many people considered the main plot of ''Star Wars'' and particularly the story of the Skywalkers to be more or less done after ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. While some works in the old Expanded Universe that tried to continue the story were well-received, others were...not. Some also feared a repeat of the [[ContestedSequel contentious]] Prequel Trilogy. However, other fans were on-board with the idea. [[Film/TheForceAwakens The]] [[Film/TheLastJedi Sequel]] [[Film/TheRiseOfSkywalker Trilogy]] ended up being massively successful financially (when adjusted for inflation, ''The Force Awakens'' is the fourth highest-grossing film ever), although the critical reception has been far more mixed. One of the most common arguments is that the Sequel Trilogy [[ItsTheSameNowItSucks basically tells the same story]] as the Original Trilogy, also resulting in a major HappyEndingOverride.


* Many of the ''bad'' movies ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'' is tasked with reviewing are sequels. In his RousingSpeech that won him a Pulitzer, he says to stop at "roman numeral II".

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* Many of the ''bad'' movies ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'' is tasked with reviewing are sequels. In his RousingSpeech that won him a Pulitzer, he says to stop at "roman "Roman numeral II".


-->-- '''Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw''', ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' [[note]] being a [[VideoGame/ChzoMythos hypocrite]][[/note]] on sequels. See Quotes/{{Sequelitis}}

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-->-- '''Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw''', ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' [[note]] being a [[VideoGame/ChzoMythos hypocrite]][[/note]] on sequels. See Quotes/{{Sequelitis}}
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* Creator/{{Yahtzee}} of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' leveled this accusation at Creator/{{Nintendo}}, citing it as a problem he had with ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', despite the fact that there hadn't been a new ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' game for more than six years, long enough for some entire game ''series'' to come out. It's also his main beef with all Nintendo franchises and ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' in particular (though he complains more about setting and character than gameplay with regards to {{Sequelitis}}).
** It's worth noting that Yahtzee was being very hypocritical here: four of Yahtzee's works have ended up being part of a series (''Rob Blanc'', ''Arthur Yahtzee'', the ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'' and ''VideoGame/TwelveThirteen''), and while only five of his Top Games of the Year (out of 22) were standalone games (''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Bastion}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Limbo}}'', ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'', and ''VideoGame/PapersPlease'', with ''VideoGame/AmnesiaTheDarkDescent'' being a standalone at the time of release and ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' being an EpisodicGame, now with a sequel), none of them were games of the year, and six standalone games have received Bottom (''VideoGame/DeadIsland'', ''VideoGame/{{Mindjack}}'', ''VideoGame/NeverDead'', ''VideoGame/{{AMY}}'', ''VideoGame/BeyondTwoSouls'', and ''VideoGame/RideToHellRetribution'', the last of which received a Lifetime Award for Total Abhorrence). To clarify, he hates sequels made just to make money (''VideoGame/BioShock2'') or that do not evolve the concept at all (''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2''), but likes sequels that go in a new direction (''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'') or keeps the good elements and removes the bad elements (''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'', ''VideoGame/FarCry3'').

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* Creator/{{Yahtzee}} of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' leveled this accusation at Creator/{{Nintendo}}, citing it as has a problem he had pretty turbulent relationship with ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', despite the fact that there hadn't been a new ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' game for more than six years, long enough for some entire game ''series'' to come out. It's also his main beef with all Nintendo franchises and ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' in particular (though he complains more about setting and character than gameplay with regards to {{Sequelitis}}).
** It's worth noting that Yahtzee was being very hypocritical here: four of Yahtzee's works have ended up being part of a series (''Rob Blanc'', ''Arthur Yahtzee'', the ''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'' and ''VideoGame/TwelveThirteen''), and while only five of his Top Games of the Year (out of 22) were standalone games (''VideoGame/{{Dishonored}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Bastion}}'', ''VideoGame/{{Limbo}}'', ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption'', and ''VideoGame/PapersPlease'', with ''VideoGame/AmnesiaTheDarkDescent'' being a standalone at the time of release and ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead'' being an EpisodicGame, now with a sequel), none of them were games of the year, and six standalone games have received Bottom (''VideoGame/DeadIsland'', ''VideoGame/{{Mindjack}}'', ''VideoGame/NeverDead'', ''VideoGame/{{AMY}}'', ''VideoGame/BeyondTwoSouls'', and ''VideoGame/RideToHellRetribution'', the last of which received a Lifetime Award for Total Abhorrence). To clarify, he hates
sequels made just to make money (''VideoGame/BioShock2'') or that do not evolve the concept at all (''VideoGame/SuperMarioGalaxy2''), but likes -- one on hand, [[https://v1.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/extra-punctuation/8857-Building-Sequels-Badly he considers sequels the "scourge of creativity"]] and tends to dislike them on principle alone, finding their cash-grab nature and inherent need for recycling ideas and continuation of stories [[{{Sequelitis}} an easy road to]] [[FranchiseZombie unnecessary ruin]]. However, he also believes that go in a new direction (''VideoGame/SilentHill2'', ''VideoGame/BioShockInfinite'') or keeps sequels ''can'' be done well (he prefers ones that [[ThematicSeries only have the good loosest connection to the originals]], refining elements that worked and removes excising ones that didn't), and [[{{Irony}} ironically]], sequels often tend to make his annual "Best Of" lists. It should also be noted that [[NotSoAboveItAll he isn't above this as a creator himself]] with works like the bad elements (''VideoGame/SilentHillShatteredMemories'', ''VideoGame/FarCry3'').''VideoGame/ChzoMythos'', though he's greatly slowed down on them following the development of his current attitude.


* In ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'''s RousingSpeech against bad movies, he says to "give it a rest" after the first sequel.

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* Many of the ''bad'' movies ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'' is tasked with reviewing are sequels. In ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'''s his RousingSpeech against bad movies, that won him a Pulitzer, he says to "give it a rest" after the first sequel.stop at "roman numeral II".

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* In ''WesternAnimation/TheCritic'''s RousingSpeech against bad movies, he says to "give it a rest" after the first sequel.


* Creator/{{Yahtzee}} of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' leveled this accusation at Creator/{{Nintendo}}, citing it as a problem he had with ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', despite the fact that there hadn't been a new ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' game for more than six years, long enough for some entire game ''series'' to come out. It's also his main beef with all Nintendo franchises and ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' in particular (though he complains more about setting and character than gameplay with regards to {{Sequelitis}}).

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* Creator/{{Yahtzee}} of ''WebAnimation/ZeroPunctuation'' leveled this accusation at Creator/{{Nintendo}}, citing it as a problem he had with ''[[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'', ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', despite the fact that there hadn't been a new ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' game for more than six years, long enough for some entire game ''series'' to come out. It's also his main beef with all Nintendo franchises and ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros'' in particular (though he complains more about setting and character than gameplay with regards to {{Sequelitis}}).


* In the 2010s, this attitude started getting directed toward Creator/{{Pixar}} due to them spending much of the decade creating sequels to their previous animated features rather than starting many new stories, with seven out of ten(!) films released between 2010 and 2019 being sequels. It's certainly a [[DownplayedTrope a downplayed example]] as a number of said sequels were either a something the Pixar fanbase had clamored for for years (''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'') and/or were critically acclaimed smash-hits upon release (such as ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' and the [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 two]] ''Toy Story'' [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 sequels]]), but regardless, by the end of the decade the fanbase was growing weary of the sequels and campaigned for Pixar to pursue more original story ideas, especially upon the announcement of the aforementioned ''Toy Story 4'' (which garnered a borderline hostile reaction from the fanbase, which questioned its necessity following ''3'', until it eventually [[WinTheCrowd won the crowd]]). When Pixar announced that their list of upcoming movies from ''WesternAnimation/{{Onward}}''...erm...[[IncrediblyLamePun onward]] were not going to be sequels to any of their previous movies, the Pixar fanbase was quite delighted.

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* In the 2010s, this attitude started getting directed toward Creator/{{Pixar}} due to them spending much of the decade creating sequels to their previous animated features rather than starting many new stories, with seven out of ten(!) films released between 2010 and 2019 being sequels. It's certainly a [[DownplayedTrope a downplayed example]] as a number of said sequels were either a something the Pixar fanbase had clamored for for years (''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'') and/or were critically acclaimed smash-hits upon release (such as ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' and the [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 two]] ''Toy Story'' [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 sequels]]), but regardless, by the end of the decade the fanbase was growing weary of the sequels and campaigned for Pixar to pursue more original story ideas, especially upon the announcement of the aforementioned ''Toy Story 4'' (which garnered a borderline hostile reaction from the fanbase, which questioned its necessity following ''3'', until it eventually [[WinTheCrowd won the crowd]]). When Pixar announced that their list of upcoming movies from ''WesternAnimation/{{Onward}}''...erm...[[IncrediblyLamePun onward]] were not going to be sequels to any of their previous movies, the Pixar fanbase was quite delighted.

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* In the 2010s, this attitude started getting directed toward Creator/{{Pixar}} due to them spending much of the decade creating sequels to their previous animated features rather than starting many new stories, with seven out of ten(!) films released between 2010 and 2019 being sequels. It's certainly a [[DownplayedTrope a downplayed example]] as a number of said sequels were either a something the Pixar fanbase had clamored for for years (''WesternAnimation/Incredibles2'') and/or were critically acclaimed smash-hits upon release (such as ''WesternAnimation/FindingDory'' and the [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory3 two]] ''Toy Story'' [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory4 sequels]]), but regardless, by the end of the decade the fanbase was growing weary of the sequels and campaigned for Pixar to pursue more original story ideas, especially upon the announcement of the aforementioned ''Toy Story 4'' (which garnered a borderline hostile reaction from the fanbase, which questioned its necessity following ''3'', until it eventually [[WinTheCrowd won the crowd]]). When Pixar announced that their list of upcoming movies from ''WesternAnimation/{{Onward}}''...erm...[[IncrediblyLamePun onward]] were not going to be sequels to any of their previous movies, the Pixar fanbase was quite delighted.


* Some game series seem to get this even from quarters that aren't usually Sequelphobic. ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'' and any other game in the ''Warriors'' series are recurrent offenders, usually on the grounds of ItsTheSameSoItSucks, despite significant changes in game mechanics, play modes, and various other improvements. An infamous review for ''VideoGame/BladestormTheHundredYearsWar'' dismissed it as 'yet another DW buttonmasher by Koei'... despite the fact that ''Bladestorm'' was a squad based RTS, not a buttonmasher. On the other hand, ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriorsStrikeforce'' suffered from the criticism of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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* Some game series seem to get this even from quarters that aren't usually Sequelphobic. ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriors'' and any other game in the ''Warriors'' series are recurrent offenders, usually on the grounds of ItsTheSameSoItSucks, ItsTheSameNowItSucks, despite significant changes in game mechanics, play modes, and various other improvements. An infamous review for ''VideoGame/BladestormTheHundredYearsWar'' dismissed it as 'yet another DW buttonmasher by Koei'... despite the fact that ''Bladestorm'' was a squad based RTS, not a buttonmasher. On the other hand, ''VideoGame/DynastyWarriorsStrikeforce'' suffered from the criticism of TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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