History Main / OldGuardVersusNewBlood

** Unfortunately, ''Rebirth'' was plagued by the fact the people behind the New 52 were still in charge, and in some cases, weren't happy with how the New 52 was received. As a result, when Creator/GeoffJohns (who had kickstarted the ''Rebirth'' initiative after being promoted and [[TheAtoner regretted the New 52]]) stepped down from being Chief Creative Officer of DC Entertainment to focus on writing, it was scrapped and the problems of the New 52 resurfaced immediately, with Darker and Edgier storylines once again taking over, and the [[ComicBook/WallyWest Legacy Character at the heart of the Rebirth initiative]] being put in a storyline designed to make them untouchable. Sales took a nosedive and got so bad that it likely played a major part behind the major layoffs that came during 2020. Unsurprisingly, the relaunch for 2021, ''ComicBook/DCInfiniteFrontier'' is aimed at restoring faith in the line and doing better by the characters.

* 2007's ''Film/{{Transformers}}'' LiveActionAdaptation majorly rewrites the storyline, bringing in the US military and making it easier to follow. To appeal to the older fans, Creator/PeterCullen was brought in (this in fact being the origin of the SugarWiki/AndTheFandomRejoiced trope under the name Casting Cullen), and several quotes from older series were thrown in.

* ''Film/DungeonsAndDragons2000'' suffers severely from conflicting idea; they wanted to attract the ''Dungeons and Dragons'' fanbase, and at the same time alienate themselves from them for fear of being associated with "losers." As a result, the movie was written by somebody who had never played the game, and the movie has lip service to the game and nothing else: a token 5'4" dwarf, clerical magic being only accessible to elves, and beholders that don't take advantage of the fact that they can look in all directions at once are just a few of the conflicts.

* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' has a surprisingly large PeripheryDemographic of older fans who started watching the show when in began in 1993 and still do for the nostalgia it gives them. The powers that be have acknowledged this and started slipping in older references that the under-12 set simply won't get (the pilot episode of ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'' is almost [[Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers "Day of the Dumpster"]] all over again). However, they also have said that, while they appreciate the older fans, they have to realize that the target demographic (and biggest [[MerchandiseDriven toy-buying market]]) is still young children, and that's something they simply have to deal with. For the most part, older fans are fine with this (as it's [[NarmCharm the show's campiness]] that they enjoy); they only really get upset if the Powers That Be use the fact that the show is 1) MerchandiseDriven and 2) For Kids as an excuse to be lazy and do the show badly[[note]]E.g. two of the weaker seasons of Power Rangers (''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' or the aforermentioned ''Megaforce'') were prone to {{Frankenslation}} or ShotForShotRemake[[/note]].

** Marvel's [[ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Ultimate line]] was an attempt to bring casual and new fans into the fold by reimagining their most popular characters and teams including ''Comicbook/SpiderMan'', the ''Comicbook/XMen'', ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', and ''Comicbook/TheAvengers'' from the ground up. Although almost all villains and heroes are generally familiar, they all received major makeovers and had their [[BackStory backstories]] {{retool}}ed and modernized. Unfortunately, as time went on, the Ultimate universe was perceived as going through an AudienceAlienatingEra, with many criticizing how multiple characters underwent AdaptationalJerkass [[note]]When Peter Parker and Wolverine [[FreakyFridayFlip swapped bodies]], the latter had no qualms attempting to commit statutory rape by trying to seduce Peter's girlfriend Mary Jane (who naturally thought he was Peter); Nick Fury was a ManipulativeBastard who gleefully told people how he played everyone like puppets[[/note]] or even AdaptationalVillainy[[note]]Bruce Banner actively enjoyed being destructive as the Hulk, while Black Widow murdered Hawkeye's family ForTheEvulz, and Hank Pym being an outright [[DomesticAbuser wife-beater]] who even joined the arc villains in the second volume[[/note]]. A feeling of TooBleakStoppedCaring set in with the ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'' event and its aftermath (which killed off many characters in gruesome if not spiteful ways, many of them [[KilledOffscreen offscreen]]). As readership dwindled, the Ultimate universe was eventually destroyed in a CrisisCrossover, with some elements shifting over to the "main" Marvel universe.

** The ''All New, All Different'' initiative of 2015 was meant to help draw in new readers by replacing many of Marvel's most iconic heroes with [[AffirmativeActionLegacy younger and/or more modern versions]]. Among others, [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]] passed the shield and mantle of Captain America to longtime friend and partner Sam Wilson (aka, the Falcon), [[ComicBook/SpiderMan Peter Parker]] became the head of an international corporation and left [[ComicBook/MilesMorales Miles Morales]] to act as Spider-Man (though Peter would also put the webs back on when necessary), ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} was killed and his codename taken up by his OppositeSexClone X-23, and Jane Foster became a new female Thor. While there was indeed an influx of new readers, many older fans were upset at such a dramatic change in the status quo. At least part of this can be explained by the fact that Marvel doesn't have as many [[LegacyCharacter legacy heroes]] as DC (e.g. while in DC there are some readers who grew up with the Barry Allen Flash, others the Wally West Flash, and others still maybe even the Jay Garrick Flash, whereas in Marvel, Steve Rogers has always been Captain America [[note]] barring the times when others like John Walker or ComicBook/BuckyBarnes took on the mantle temporarily[[/note]]).\\

* ''Franchise/MarvelComics'':

* With ''Film/{{The Batman|2022}}'' starring Creator/RobertPattinson, it seemed like Creator/WarnerBros and Creator/DCFilms wanted to completely reboot the [[Franchise/{{Batman}} Dark Knight]] on film yet again, and a bit too freshly at that to some after Creator/BenAffleck seemingly left the role in 2019. Then ''Film/ZackSnydersJusticeLeague'' happened, Affleck was allowed to appear in new scenes for this version of ''Justice League'' and he was later confirmed to appear in ''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}'', which means that this incarnation of Batman hasn't been completely forgotten/shelved by WB and DC Films (provided that ''The Flash'' isn't a WrapItUp for him).

** The ''All New, All Different'' initiative of 2015 was meant to help draw in new readers by replacing many of Marvel's most iconic heroes with [[AffirmativeActionLegacy younger and/or more modern versions]]. Among others, [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Steve Rogers]] passed the shield and mantle of Captain America to longtime friend and partner Sam Wilson (aka, the Falcon), [[Franchise/SpiderMan Peter Parker]] became the head of an international corporation and left [[ComicBook/MilesMorales Miles Morales]] to act as Spider-Man (though Peter would also put the webs back on when necessary), ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} was killed and his codename taken up by his OppositeSexClone X-23, and Jane Foster became a new female Thor. While there was indeed an influx of new readers, many older fans were upset at such a dramatic change in the status quo. At least part of this can be explained by the fact that Marvel doesn't have as many [[LegacyCharacter legacy heroes]] as DC (e.g. while in DC there are some readers who grew up with the Barry Allen Flash, others the Wally West Flash, and others still maybe even the Jay Garrick Flash, whereas in Marvel, Steve Rogers has always been Captain America [[note]] barring the times when others like John Walker or ComicBook/BuckyBarnes took on the mantle temporarily[[/note]]).\\

* The ''WesternAnimation/SouthPark'' movie makes sense if one hasn't seen the show, while still serving as a good episode of it.

* ''Film/VForVendetta'’ stands about in the middle here. It updates the political context and generally makes it a bit more Hollywood-esque (stronger female protagonist, more action scenes, less moral ambiguity), while keeping a lot of dialogue, visuals and themes from the comic. On the other hand, the changes to the politics and moral ambiguity make it essentially a completely different story, leading to the creator disowning it.

* ''Franchise/PowerRangers'' has a surprisingly large PeripheryDemographic of older fans who started watching the show when in began in 1993 and still do for the nostalgia it gives them. The powers that be have acknowledged this and started slipping in older references that the under-12 set simply won't get (the pilot episode of ''Series/PowerRangersMegaforce'' is almost [[Series/MightyMorphinPowerRangers "Day of the Dumpster"]] all over again). However, they also have said that, while they appreciate the older fans, they have to realize that the target demographic (and biggest [[MerchandiseDriven toy-buying market]]) is still young children, and that's something they simply have to deal with. For the most part, older fans are fine with this (as it's [[NarmCharm the show's campiness]] that they enjoy); they only really get upset if the Powers That Be use the fact that the show is 1) MerchandiseDriven and 2) For Kids as an excuse to be lazy and do the show badly [[note]] E.g. two of the weaker seasons of Power Rangers (''Series/PowerRangersSamurai'' or the aforermentioned ''Megaforce'') were prone to {{Frankenslation}} or ShotForShotRemake [[/note]].
* ''VideoGame/Splatoon3'', overall, falls more heavily on the New Blood side. It's set in a completely different city from the previous two ''Splatoon'' games and features a mostly new cast outside of several series mainstays. It only loosely references the events of previous games, most infamously by [[PutOnABus sending Off the Hook on a world tour]] (information that is only revealed if you find a non-essential item). Gameplay, in general, skews in a more casual direction against the wishes of the game's competitive audience, with flatter, more open maps encouraging the use of long-range weapons. The game's higher ranks are generally easier to attain, with ranks for all modes being merged once again and making it possible to stay in a good group in Anarchy Battle (Series) or grind ranks in Anarchy Battle (Open) and "be carried" (instead of it always shuffling players for ranked battles) and once reached, they lack any mechanic to rank ''down'', not even in S+/X Battle. There's also a number of standing balance and connection issues from previous games left unaddressed. ''Return of the Mammalians'' in particular feels like it was aimed at people who had never played the Octo Expansion in ''Splatoon 2''; it has very similar level design, plot structure, difficulty, even the finale is extremely familiar. The game's DownloadableContent, meanwhile, is focused strictly on the Old Guard, allowing players to return to Inkopolis Plaza and Inkopolis Square alongside [[TheBusCameBack bringing back Off the Hook]] to star in ''Side Order''. Perhaps unsurprisingly, many of the complaints about ''Splatoon 3'' come from the Old Guard -- meanwhile, New Blood players, who don't have experience with older ''Splatoon'' games and are the target audience of the more casual direction, have much nicer things to say about it.