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* One practice of modern poetry is to dispense with punctuation. The most famous example is ee cummings (or E.E. Cummings, depending on who you ask).

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* One practice of modern poetry is to dispense with punctuation. The most famous example is ee cummings (or E.E. Cummings, depending on who you ask).EECummings.
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Sometimes though, NoPunctuationIsFunnier
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* In D&D dwarven language continues little punctuation, just red highlighting for important words and slashes between sentences.

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* In D&D D&D, dwarven language continues contains little punctuation, just red highlighting for important words and slashes between sentences.
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* The fiction of portuguese novelist José Saramago features only periods and commas, and nothing more. Furthermore, there's no indication of dialogue or who's talking what, except that each piece of dialogue starts with capital letters, just as if it was written normally. Finally, his paragraphs extend over pages. Sweden awarded him the Nobel Prize for Literature.

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* The fiction of portuguese Portuguese novelist José Saramago features only periods and commas, and nothing more. Furthermore, there's no indication of dialogue or who's talking what, except that each piece of dialogue starts with capital letters, just as if it was written normally. Finally, his paragraphs extend over pages. Sweden awarded him the Nobel Prize for Literature.Literature.
** The thing is, he ''pulls it off.'' After the first few pages, it stops being difficult to follow, and he uses it effectively to set his tone.
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* There is a lack of punctuation throughout ''Guitar Highway Rose'', depending on whose point of view the section is from. This makes dialogue very confusing at times.
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Initial vowels in Hebrew and Arabic are indicated with a glottal stop symbol, here represented by \'. Also, long EIOU tend to end up written as YYWW respectively.


** It is specifically to reduce these ambiguities that Hebrew and Arabic have methods of writing vowels at all - the structure of the languages are such that they're pretty much readable without the vowels (mn lngwgs r ctll ths wy t sm dgr), but people came up with vowel "points" (symbols above and below the letters) to eliminate any questions that might arise through this omission. Most non-religious texts still leave them out.

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** It is specifically to reduce these ambiguities that Hebrew and Arabic have methods of writing vowels at all - the structure of the languages are such that they're pretty much readable without the short vowels (mn lngwgs r ctll 'r 'ctll ths wy t sm dgr), dgry), but people came up with vowel "points" (symbols above and below the letters) to eliminate any questions that might arise through this omission. Most non-religious texts still leave them out.



* A somewhat example: the Arabic alphabet contains many pairs or sets of letters which are mostly, or completely, identical except for the placement of dots meant to distinguish them. Originally, these dots weren't there. This meant you often couldn't tell, except by already knowing the words and judging from context, if a given letter was (for example) an F or Q, or in the worst possible case, a B, T, TH, N, or Y.

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* A somewhat example: the joined-up alphabets such as Arabic alphabet contains and cursive English often contain many pairs or sets of letters which are mostly, or completely, identical except for the placement of dots meant to distinguish them. Originally, these dots weren't there. This meant you often couldn't tell, except by already knowing the words and judging from context, if a given Arabic letter was (for example) an F or Q, or in the worst possible case, a B, T, TH, N, or Y.
Y. English is not ''as'' susceptible, but it still has U vs. II, and I vs. T.
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* Averted by Victor Borge in [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF4qii8S3gw this bit]].
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** [[SuperlativeDubbing Not that you need them.]]
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* Same with CryTheBelovedCountry, in imitation of the King James Bible. Justified since the main character is a preacher.

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* A disturbing trend, in ''{{Naruto}}'' fanfiction at least, is for all punctuation to be correct except for the complete exclusion of periods in speaking sentences, despite periods being everywhere else. Exclamation points and question marks seem to stay in, however.
* The subtitles on the ''SpiritedAway'' DVD are styled similarly to the ''BreathOfFire III'' dialogue mentioned above. Very disorienting.
** [[SuperlativeDubbing Not that you need them.]]
* Given that periods are not required in written Japanese, a lot of scanlations are prone to this. Or else! They will end every sentence the same way! With an exclamation mark! Even when it makes no sense! And when it reduces the impact of sentences that had an exclamation mark in Japanese!

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* A rather unique characteristic of comic books from the SilverAge and forward, particularly those from DC, is a complete lack of any punctuation other than exclamation points and question marks. In the beginning it was because the low-quality paper stock would render any small marks, like periods or commas, invisible or illegible. As it stands, the omission of periods and the use of all caps is a stylistic choice, not practiced by all letterers. The dialog is instead structured by comic's own unique punctuation mark, the speech balloon, which provides flow and rhythm via spacial placement, as well as other tone information.
* The speech balloons in ''{{Garfield}}'' ''never'' end with a period. They end only with an exclamation point, question mark, or a hyphen or dash to indicate interruption. Sentences that do not terminate with the end of a speech balloon would have normal punctuation.

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* In ''Wonderful Town'', a character has to take an emergency pause for breath while reading an enormous run-on sentence in one of the [[StylisticSuck deliberately ridiculous]] [[ShowWithinAShow Plays Within The Play]].



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* A disturbing trend, in ''{{Naruto}}'' fanfiction at least, is for all punctuation to be correct except for the complete exclusion of periods in speaking sentences, despite periods being everywhere else. Exclamation points and question marks seem to stay in, however.
* The subtitles on the ''SpiritedAway'' DVD are styled similarly to the ''BreathOfFire III'' dialogue mentioned above. Very disorienting.
** [[SuperlativeDubbing Not that you need them.]]
* Given that periods are not required in written Japanese, a lot of scanlations are prone to this. Or else! They will end every sentence the same way! With an exclamation mark! Even when it makes no sense! And when it reduces the impact of sentences that had an exclamation mark in Japanese!

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* In ''Wonderful Town'', a character has to take an emergency pause for breath while reading an enormous run-on sentence in one of the [[StylisticSuck deliberately ridiculous]] [[ShowWithinAShow Plays Within The Play]].

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* A disturbing trend, in ''{{Naruto}}'' fanfiction at least, is for all punctuation to be correct except for the complete exclusion of periods in speaking sentences, despite periods being everywhere else. Exclamation points and question marks seem to stay in, however.
* The subtitles on the ''SpiritedAway'' DVD are styled similarly to the ''BreathOfFire III'' dialogue mentioned above. Very disorienting.
** [[SuperlativeDubbing Not that you need them.]]
* Given that periods are not required in written Japanese, a lot of scanlations are prone to this. Or else! They will end every sentence the same way! With an exclamation mark! Even when it makes no sense! And when it reduces the impact of sentences that had an exclamation mark in Japanese!

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* In ''Wonderful Town'', a character has to take an emergency pause D&D dwarven language continues little punctuation, just red highlighting for breath while reading an enormous run-on sentence in one of the [[StylisticSuck deliberately ridiculous]] [[ShowWithinAShow Plays Within The Play]].
important words and slashes between sentences.



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* A rather unique characteristic of comic books from the SilverAge and forward, particularly those from DC, is a complete lack of any punctuation other than exclamation points and question marks. In the beginning it was because the low-quality paper stock would render any small marks, like periods or commas, invisible or illegible. As it stands, the omission of periods and the use of all caps is a stylistic choice, not practiced by all letterers. The dialog is instead structured by comic's own unique punctuation mark, the speech balloon, which provides flow and rhythm via spacial placement, as well as other tone information.
* The speech balloons in ''{{Garfield}}'' ''never'' end with a period. They end only with an exclamation point, question mark, or a hyphen or dash to indicate interruption. Sentences that do not terminate with the end of a speech balloon would have normal punctuation.

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* A rather unique characteristic of comic books from the SilverAge and forward, particularly those from DC, is a complete lack of any punctuation other than exclamation points and question marks. In the beginning it was because the low-quality paper stock would render any small marks, like periods or commas, invisible or illegible. As it stands, the omission of periods and the use of all caps is a stylistic choice, not practiced by all letterers. The dialog is instead structured by comic's own unique punctuation mark, the speech balloon, which provides flow and rhythm via spacial placement, as well as other tone information.
* The speech balloons in ''{{Garfield}}'' ''never'' end with a period. They end only with an exclamation point, question mark, or a hyphen or dash to indicate interruption. Sentences that do not terminate with the end of a speech balloon would have normal punctuation.

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*** For those who want a bit more concrete an example: [[TheBible The New Testament]] is, in fact, one of the ''best'' preserved manuscripts -- many copies and fragments of copies have survived, and most of the oldest ones have surfaced in the last century. On a collated text -- one created by combining every copy available -- it is pretty much impossible to find a page where there isn't anything footnoted with an explanation of why they chose the version they did & what the variants were, in space-saving standardized code. (And this is also a text that was usually proofread, as evidenced by some copies having corrections; apparently it was suspected that God might be a GrammarNazi.)

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*** For those who want a bit more concrete an example: [[TheBible The New Testament]] is, in fact, one of the ''best'' preserved manuscripts -- many copies and fragments of copies have survived, and most of the oldest ones have surfaced in the last century. On a collated text -- one created by combining every copy available -- it is pretty much impossible to find a page where there isn't anything footnoted with an explanation of why they chose the version they did & what the variants were, in space-saving standardized code. (And this is also a text that was usually proofread, as evidenced by some copies having corrections; apparently it was suspected that God might be a GrammarNazi.)) The different readings of punctuation can be important; a significant difference between the Catholic and Protestant churches is derived from whether Jesus said "Amen, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise," or "Amen, I say to you today, you will be with me in Paradise."
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** [[SuperlativeDubbing Not that you need them.]]
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* Justified in the ''ArchyAndMehitabel'' poems by Don Marquis: Archy is a cockroach who writes by jumping headfirst onto the keys of [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis Marquis's typewriter]]. This means he can't type anything that requires holding down the shift key.

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Newlines can be considered punctuation too; the article is now, as mentioned in it, "taken to the extreme"


so youve found what seems to be a good {{fan fic}} i mean you havent started reading it yet but its got a good description and better yet your {{OTP}} is in it of course you have to read it thusly you click on it and beg

wait um what is this where are the periods the question marks exclamation points oh god no commas or colons no no [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOoooooo]]

alas youve just stumbled into a relic of the {{no punctuation period}} a horrible time in which people apparently forgot how sentences are built

taken to extremes it can result in a visual {{wall of text}} thus adding to its unreadableness

sadly this happens outside of fan fics too as many tropers could tell you there are few havens of good style [[GrammarNazi some brave netizens tropers among them]] have taken up arms to fight back the [[SeriousBusiness scourge of illiteracy]]

often goes hand in hand with [[AllLowercaseLetters all lowercase letters]] although more often uppercase letters will be used but only in a limited capacity like for character names acronyms and SHOUTING

has absolutely nothing to do with [[NoPeriodsPeriod that thing]] or [[ZeroPunctuation that other thing]] let us mention neither here related WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma

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so youve found what seems to be a good {{fan fic}} i mean you havent started reading it yet but its got a good description and better yet your {{OTP}} is in it of course you have to read it thusly you click on it and beg

beg wait um what is this where are the periods the question marks exclamation points oh god no commas or colons no no [[BigNo NOOOOOOOOoooooo]]

NOOOOOOOOoooooo]] alas youve just stumbled into a relic of the {{no punctuation period}} a horrible time in which people apparently forgot how sentences are built

built taken to extremes it can result in a visual {{wall of text}} thus adding to its unreadableness

unreadableness sadly this happens outside of fan fics too as many tropers could tell you there are few havens of good style [[GrammarNazi some brave netizens tropers among them]] have taken up arms to fight back the [[SeriousBusiness scourge of illiteracy]]

illiteracy]] often goes hand in hand with [[AllLowercaseLetters all lowercase letters]] although more often uppercase letters will be used but only in a limited capacity like for character names acronyms and SHOUTING

SHOUTING has absolutely nothing to do with [[NoPeriodsPeriod that thing]] or [[ZeroPunctuation that other thing]] let us mention neither here related WantonCrueltyToTheCommonComma
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* A somewhat example: the Arabic alphabet contains many pairs or sets of letters which are mostly, or completely, identical except for the placement of dots meant to distinguish them. Originally, these dots weren't there. This meant you often couldn't tell, except by already knowing the words and judging from context, if a given letter was (for example) an F or K, or in the worst possible case, a B, T, TH, N, or Y.

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* A somewhat example: the Arabic alphabet contains many pairs or sets of letters which are mostly, or completely, identical except for the placement of dots meant to distinguish them. Originally, these dots weren't there. This meant you often couldn't tell, except by already knowing the words and judging from context, if a given letter was (for example) an F or K, Q, or in the worst possible case, a B, T, TH, N, or Y.
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** Dave Strider and Aradia Megido types with no punctuation, but splits the text up so a period equals a new line.
** Nepeta Leijon and Terezi Pyrope only uses exclamation and question marks.

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** Dave Strider and Aradia Megido types type with no punctuation, but splits split the text up so a period equals a new line.
** Nepeta Leijon and Terezi Pyrope only uses use exclamation and question marks.
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* The House On Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros never, ever seems to use quotation marks. You have to figure out whose talking and if there even is talking and its just a pain to do for English.

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* The House On Mango Street TheHouseOnMangoStreet by Sandra Cisneros never, ever seems to use quotation marks. You have to figure out whose talking and if there even is talking and its just a pain to do for English.
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alas youve just stumbled into a {{no punctuation period}} a horrible time in which people apparently forgot how sentences are built

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alas youve just stumbled into a relic of the {{no punctuation period}} a horrible time in which people apparently forgot how sentences are built
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* There's an early 19th-century satirical work by Lord Timothy Dexter called "A Pickle for the Knowing Ones", which was at one point published without punctuation ("stops"), and had all of the missing marks in an appendix, with a note about how readers could sprinkle them through the text as they desired. The first editions didn't have the punctuation page; it was added as a TakeThat in later ones.

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* There's an early 19th-century satirical work by [[BunnyEarsLawyer eccentric but extremely successful businessman]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Dexter Lord Timothy Dexter Dexter]] called "A Pickle for the Knowing Ones", which was at one point published without punctuation ("stops"), and had all of the missing marks in an appendix, with a note about how readers could sprinkle them through the text as they desired. The first editions didn't have the punctuation page; it was added as a TakeThat in later ones.
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often goes hand in hand with [[AllLowercaseLetters all lowercase letters]]

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often goes hand in hand with [[AllLowercaseLetters all lowercase letters]]
letters]] although more often uppercase letters will be used but only in a limited capacity like for character names acronyms and SHOUTING
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often goes hand in hand with [[AllLowercaseLetters all lowercase letters]]
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** Also with Classical Chinese, where punctuation is never used. This has led to a very fun type of exam question where the student is present with a block of text and have to add in the punctuation (made easier by the fact that Classical Chinese is written in a highly rhythmic and formalized style, finding the places to pause tend to come naturally after one reads the passages a few dozen times).
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** Telegrams not punctuated. May be example of trope. Usage of. Instead of period or full. Reduces alphabet size by obsoleting punctuation. In hindsight, if somebody wanted to actually ''say'' "stop", there was a small chance of the message being lost if the telegrapher was not experienced.

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* Dave Strider of ''{{Homestuck}}'' fame types like this. The {{troll}}s grimAuxiliatrix and gallowsCalibrator use no punctuation marks, but GA capitalizes the first letter of every word, and GC uses leetspeak.

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* Dave Strider of ''{{Homestuck}}'' fame has several characters typing like this.
** Dave Strider and Aradia Megido
types like this. The {{troll}}s grimAuxiliatrix with no punctuation, but splits the text up so a period equals a new line.
** Nepeta Leijon
and gallowsCalibrator Terezi Pyrope only uses exclamation and question marks.
** Kanaya Maryam doesn't
use no punctuation, but continues at the next line each time punctuation marks, but GA capitalizes the first letter of every word, and GC uses leetspeak.
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** Equius Zahhak doesn't use any punctuation except commas.
** Eridan Ampora not only doesn't use punctuation, he often types multiple sentences on one line.
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** In sections of the Talmud dealing with specific Biblical verses, the authors will frequently point out that some relevant word, if pronounced with different vowel sounds, can mean something completely different, and this is used as a way to tease out hidden levels of meaning embedded in the text. Relatedly, the fact that a reader has to know the words already in order to read the text is sometimes given as evidence of the existence of a parallel oral tradition that was given in conjunction to, and simultaneously with, the written text - since the written text on its own is unreadable (or at least hopelessly ambiguous) without some sort of extra-textual instructions for pronunciation.
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* In ''Wonderful Town'', a character has to take an emergency pause for breath while reading an enormous run-on sentence in one of the [[StylisticSuck deliberately ridiculous]] [[ShowWithinAShow Plays Within The Play]].
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*** You know how the King James Bible has a whole load of words in ''italics,'' seemingly at random? [[http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/italics.html Those are all words that the translators put in to make it easier to read in English.]] If you follow that link, you can see how adding these words explicitly endorses one of a range of possible readings of the original text, SoYeah.

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*** You know how the King James Bible has a whole load of words in ''italics,'' seemingly at random? [[http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/italics.html Those are all words that the translators put in to make it easier to read in English.]] If you follow that link, you can see how adding these words explicitly endorses one of a range of possible readings of the original text, SoYeah.text.
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* The House On Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros never, ever seems to use quotation marks. You have to figure out whose talking and if there even is talking and its just a pain to do for English.

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