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-->'''Michael''': I've been given a new job.\\
'''Sam''': What's it pay?\\
'''Michael''':: it's more like you do this for us or you die.\\
'''Sam''': Oh, never liked those.

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'''Sam''': '''Sam:''' What's it pay?\\
'''Michael''':: '''Michael:''' it's more like you do this for us or you die.\\
'''Sam''': '''Sam:''' Oh, never liked those.
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* One villain does this to another villain in ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformersTheMovie''. Unicron summons the dying Megatron while he's adrift in space and orders him to destroy the Matrix of Leadership for him. In return, Unicron offered to provide Megatron with a new body and new troops to command. Megatron then demanded ''more'' and defiantly denied that he belonged to Unicron now. Unicron then made it clear that if Megatron wouldn't serve him he'd be Unicron's snack and prepared to devour him. Megatron quickly decided Unicron's terms were acceptable after all.
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* On [[LetsPlay/DreamSMP his SMP]], LetsPlay/{{Dream}} has this ultimatum for L'Manburg: Either cease fighting for independence or he'll utterly thrash them. They refuse as expected, Dream does exactly what he promised to.

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* On [[LetsPlay/DreamSMP his SMP]], the ''LetsPlay/DreamSMP'', LetsPlay/{{Dream}} has this ultimatum for L'Manburg: Either cease fighting for independence or he'll utterly thrash them. They refuse as expected, Dream does exactly what he promised to.
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* ''LetsPlay/{{Dream}}'' has this ultimatum for L'Manburg: Either cease fighting for independence or he'll utterly thrash them. They refuse as expected, Dream does exactly what he promised to.
-->'''Dream''': I want to see ''white flags''! White flags outside your base, by tomorrow, at dawn, or you are ''dead''!

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* ''LetsPlay/{{Dream}}'' On [[LetsPlay/DreamSMP his SMP]], LetsPlay/{{Dream}} has this ultimatum for L'Manburg: Either cease fighting for independence or he'll utterly thrash them. They refuse as expected, Dream does exactly what he promised to.
-->'''Dream''': -->'''Dream:''' I want to see ''white flags''! White flags outside your base, by tomorrow, at dawn, or you are ''dead''!
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* ''Fanfic/CodePrime'': During his NewEraSpeech to the people of Earth in Chapter 35 of ''R1'', following his announcement of [[spoiler: [[EvilerThanThou the Decepticons' conquest of Britannia]]]], Megatron tells humanity to either surrender to him or be destroyed.
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': This is Kaido's M.O, if there's a strong pirate that get his liking he'll offer them a position in his crew. If not, he'll try to break their spirits until they eventually do so. If they still resist, he'll ultimately dispose of them. It's revealed a good portion of his crew are former pirate captains who took his deal.

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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': This is Kaido's M.O, if there's a strong pirate that get his liking he'll offer them a position in his crew. If not, they refuse, he'll throw them into his prison and try to break their spirits until they eventually do so. If they still resist, he'll ultimately dispose of them. It's revealed a good portion of his crew are former pirate captains who took his deal.
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* ''Manga/OnePiece'': This is Kaido's M.O, if there's a strong pirate that get his liking he'll offer them a position in his crew. If not, he'll try to break their spirits until they eventually do so. If they still resist, he'll ultimately dispose of them. It's revealed a good portion of his crew are former pirate captains who took his deal.
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'''Cyberman:''' [[AC:Then you are not compatible.]]\\

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'''Cyberman:''' [[AC:Then '''Then you are not compatible.]]\\'''\\



'''Cyberman:''' [[AC:[[CatchPhrase You will be deleted.]]]] ''[kills him]''

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* ''LetsPlay/{{Dream}}'' has this ultimatum for L'Manburg: Either cease fighting for independence or he'll utterly thrash them. They refuse as expected, Dream does exactly what he promised to.
-->'''Dream''': I want to see ''white flags''! White flags outside your base, by tomorrow, at dawn, or you are ''dead''!
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* After witnessing a fight with a faction she is [[TheMasquerade not even supposed to know exists,]] Zemelda Cleat of ''Literature/CiaphasCain'' is WelcomedToTheMasquerade by the Inquisitor Amberley Vail as part of her entourage - something that surprises Cain, who assumed she would simply be KilledToUpholdTheMasquerade. It is ''strongly'' implied that Amberley would have executed her on the spot if she had refused, however.
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** On ''WesternAnimation/PeterPan'', Captain Hook gives Wendy and the boys the option of joining his crew or WalkingThePlank.

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* In ''Film/IronMan1'', this is how the Nine Rings recruits. They attack villages and either kill or capture the men. Then, they take their women and children to an unknown location where they're used as collateral. The men are asked to join them, with their families' lives, as well as their own, on their line if they refuse. This is TruthInTelevision for many terrorist groups and militaristic regimes.
* On ''WesternAnimation/PeterPan'', Captain Hook gives Wendy and the boys the option of joining his crew or WalkingThePlank.

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* In ''Film/IronMan1'', this is how the Nine Rings recruits. They attack villages and either kill or capture the men. Then, they take their women and children to an unknown location where they're used as collateral. The men are asked to join them, with their families' lives, as well as their own, on their line if they refuse. This is TruthInTelevision for many terrorist groups and militaristic regimes.
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* In ''Film/IronMan'', this is how the Nine Rings recruits. They attack villages and either kill or capture the men. Then, they take their women and children to an unknown location where they're used as collateral. The men are asked to join them, with their families' lives, as well as their own, on their line if they refuse. This is TruthInTelevision for many terrorist groups and militaristic regimes.
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* ''ComicBook/TheTransformersMegaseries'': The planet-destroying Reapers want the Decepticon PersonOfMassDestruction Sixshot to join their ranks, and while they give him time to think about it, they ''won’t'' take no for an answer. Their leader outright tells him to join their crusade or die the next time they meet.

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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Nicodemus gives Harry an offer: take up one of the [[ThirtyPiecesOfSilver 30 silver coins]] and join the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Order of the Blackened Denarius]], or Nicodemus will slit his throat once he's done eating breakfast. Nicodemus believes very strongly in pragmatic villainy.

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* In ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', Nicodemus gives Harry an offer: take up one of the [[ThirtyPiecesOfSilver 30 silver coins]] and join the [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast Order of the Blackened Denarius]], or Nicodemus will slit his throat once he's done eating breakfast. Nicodemus believes very strongly in pragmatic villainy.PragmaticVillainy.



** And in ''Literature/ColdDays'', the Outsiders gave him first this offer, and then the other, in quick succession. He wasn't lying when he said, in Dead Beat, that these were the two offers he seems to get all the time.

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** And in ''Literature/ColdDays'', the Outsiders gave him first this offer, and then the other, in quick succession. He wasn't lying when he said, in Dead Beat, ''Dead Beat'', that these were the two offers he seems to get all the time.time.
** In ''Literature/PeaceTalks'', [[spoiler: Ethniu the Last Titan]] announces to the supernatural nations assembled at the titular PeaceConference that she's about to wage war on humanity, and tells them that they can either stand with her or burn with the humans.
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* Near the end of Season 2 of ''WesternAnimation/KipoAndTheAgeOfWonderbeasts'', Scarlemagne gives the Mutes from all corners of Las Vistas one of two choices: either join him in complete and utter fealty or be made into gold statues.
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* On ''Disney/PeterPan'', Captain Hook gives Wendy and the boys the option of joining his crew or WalkingThePlank.

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* On ''Disney/PeterPan'', ''WesternAnimation/PeterPan'', Captain Hook gives Wendy and the boys the option of joining his crew or WalkingThePlank.
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* ''ComicBook/WonderWoman1987'': Widow Sazia approaches the men once under her husband's control in the mob who didn't immediately side with her in the MobWar following his murder in small groups and graphically kills the first to indignantly turn her down before repeating her offer to the remainder.
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* In one ChooseYourOwnAdventure book, the protagonist can discover the owner of an amusement park bribing a safety inspector to overlook some serious safety hazards. When the owner and his clown henchman notice you the owner offers you a thousand dollars to keep quiet or else. If the protagonist refuses they try to kill him. If the protagonist accepts the bribe and rats them out anyway, the clown arranges an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident "accident"]]. If the protagonist accepts the bribe and keeps quiet the clown will sweeten the deal with an extra hundred dollars as a present. The protagonist has mixed feelings about this since it means the villains believe that he is on their side and can be counted on for future favors.

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* In one ChooseYourOwnAdventure ''Literature/ChooseYourOwnAdventure'' book, the protagonist can discover the owner of an amusement park bribing a safety inspector to overlook some serious safety hazards. When the owner and his clown henchman notice you the owner offers you a thousand dollars to keep quiet or else. If the protagonist refuses they try to kill him. If the protagonist accepts the bribe and rats them out anyway, the clown arranges an [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident "accident"]]. If the protagonist accepts the bribe and keeps quiet the clown will sweeten the deal with an extra hundred dollars as a present. The protagonist has mixed feelings about this since it means the villains believe that he is on their side and can be counted on for future favors.
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* ''Fanfic/ChildOfTheStorm'':
** Lucius Malfoy offers this to the Ministry in chapter 72 of the first book. Arthur Weasley is one of those who turns him down.
--> [[PrecisionFStrike Go fuck yourself, Lucius.]]
** This is functionally Surtur's method of recruitment, both in the past and the present. He welcomed defectors, granting them powers beyond their wildest dreams, but as the sequel demonstrates, he doesn't take very well to the word "no."
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* The first Bad End of ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' happens if you have Shirou refuse to participate in the Holy Grail War. As a result, he gives up his Command Spells, breaks his contract with Saber and forcing her to find another Master, and Rin has no further reason to associate with him, leaving him vulnerable to Illya and Berserker's attack on him when he attempts to return home, [[FateWorseThanDeath becoming Illya's immortal torture plaything for as long as she wants]]. When Shirou tells her that he's not in the Holy Grail War anymore, she bluntly tells him that she doesn't care. As we find out later, Illya really wants Shirou to suffer [[spoiler:as revenge for their father supposedly [[ReplacementGoldfish replacing her with him]]]], which we don't find out until Illya's DefeatMeansFriendship HeelFaceTurn later in the route, so Shirou would have been unsafe for the entire Holy Grail War regardless of his participation or not as long as Illya was still alive and evil.
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* This is how [[TheAssimilator the Borg]] operate in ''Franchise/StarTrek]]'' -- either they assimilate you or they destroy you. And as far as they're concerned, ResistanceIsFutile.

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* This is how [[TheAssimilator the Borg]] operate in ''Franchise/StarTrek]]'' ''Franchise/StarTrek'' -- either they assimilate you or they destroy you. And as far as they're concerned, ResistanceIsFutile.
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* This is how [[TheAssimilator the Borg]] operate in ''Franchise/StarTrek]]'' -- either they assimilate you or they destroy you. And as far as they're concerned, ResistanceIsFutile.
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* UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan and his Mongol Empire made this ultimatum to the inhabitants of the conquered areas. Some people wouldn't surrender - and the Mongols' harsh retribution is probably the reason why most people did.

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* UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan and his Mongol Empire made this ultimatum to the inhabitants of the conquered areas. Some people wouldn't surrender - and the Mongols' harsh retribution [[MakeAnExampleOfThem is probably the reason why most people did.did]].
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* In ''Film/Aquaman2018'', to expand his armies to invade the surface world, Orm threatens the Fishmen kingdom and then the Brine Kingdom. Ricou, the Fisherman King, refuses, gets murdered by Orm who then forces Ricuo's daughter to cooperate. The Brine King outright refuses and to Orm, ThisMeansWar.

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* In ''Film/Aquaman2018'', to expand his armies to invade the surface world, Orm threatens the Fishmen Fishermen kingdom and then the Brine Kingdom. Ricou, the Fisherman King, refuses, gets murdered by Orm who then forces Ricuo's daughter to cooperate. The Brine King outright refuses and to Orm, ThisMeansWar.
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* In ''Film/Aquaman2018'', to expand his armies to invade the surface world, Orm threatens the Fishmen kingdom and then the Brine Kingdom. Ricou, the Fisherman King, refuses, gets murdered by Orm who then forces Ricuo's daughter to cooperate. The Brine King outright refuses and to Orm, ThisMeansWar.
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* This is how the Scarlet Chorus recruits in ''VideoGame/{{Tyranny}}''. If the conquer a town or defeat an army, they bring all the survivors together and offers them 'redemption' in the Chorus. Those who refuse are killed on the spot. Those who accept are thrown into a circle with all the other accepters and handed a weapon, with the understanding that [[DeadlyGraduation nobody leaves the circle alive until they've killed at least one other person inside it]]. The surviving half of ''those'' are then offered a place in the Chorus as frontline troopers, with the unfortunate 'candidates' at that point being either so well and truly traumatised or already so psychopathic that they're a perfect fit for the Chorus.
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* In ''Series/DaVincisDemons'' Season 3, the Ottomans have the citizens of Otranto lined up and being forced to chose between beheading or converting to Islam. This event [[TruthInTelevision did historically happen]], but the Ottomans were not armed with super-advanced inventions made by Da Vinci like in the show.

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-> ''"If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed!"''
-->-- '''Emperor Palpatine,''' ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''

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-> ''"If ->''"If you will not be turned, you will be destroyed!"''
-->-- '''Emperor Palpatine,''' Palpatine''', ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''



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* In ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'', [[spoiler:VIRM, the series' GreaterScopeVillain]] operates this way. [[spoiler:A HiveMind of ascended EnergyBeings, they regard other sapient races with CondescendingCompassion for their mortal, turbulent existence, and they seek to mend this by [[AssimilationPlot assimilating all other sentient life forms into their collective.]] A race that refuses, as the [[{{Ultraterrestrials}} Klaxo sapiens]] did, is summarily attacked with intent of [[FinalSolution extermination]].]]



* In ''Anime/DarlingInTheFranxx'', [[spoiler:VIRM, the series' GreaterScopeVillain]] operates this way. [[spoiler:A HiveMind of ascended EnergyBeings, they regard other sapient races with CondescendingCompassion for their mortal, turbulent existence, and they seek to mend this by [[AssimilationPlot assimilating all other sentient life forms into their collective.]] A race that refuses, as the [[{{Ultraterrestrials}} Klaxo sapiens]] did, is summarily attacked with intent of [[FinalSolution extermination]].]]



-->'''Michael''': I've been given a new job.
-->'''Sam''': What's it pay?
-->'''Michael''':: it's more like you do this for us or you die.
-->'''Sam''': Oh, never liked those.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Cybermen operate by this creed. Exemplified by the Cybus Cybermen in their introduction.

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-->'''Michael''': I've been given a new job.
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job.\\
'''Sam''':
What's it pay?
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pay?\\
'''Michael'''::
it's more like you do this for us or you die.
-->'''Sam''':
die.\\
'''Sam''':
Oh, never liked those.
* ''Series/DoctorWho'': The Cybermen operate by this creed. Exemplified by the Cybus Cybermen in their introduction.[[Recap/DoctorWhoS28E5RiseOfTheCybermen introduction]].



'''President of Britain''': What if I refuse?\\

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'''President of Britain''': Britain:''' What if I refuse?\\



'''The Doctor:''' I'm telling you, don't.\\

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'''The Doctor:''' I'm telling you, don't.''don't''.\\



'''Cyberman:''' [[AC:[[CatchPhrase You will be deleted]]]] (''Kills him'')

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* In ''Series/LaFemmeNikita'', not to be confused with ''{{Series/Nikita}}'', this is part of the NecessarilyEvil [=MIB=] organization's MO. By the time they've tried to recruit you, [[HeKnowsTooMuch you know too much]] to be allowed to walk away. ''Even the leader'' wasn't always the leader, and was brought in by basically being kidnapped, and can't ever show himself to the people who know him as plain old "Paul Wolfe" instead of "Operations" again. Which means ''even someone who lived it eventually came to believe it necessary.''



* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse:
** In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward explains that this is HYDRA's policy, particularly towards [[DifferentlyPoweredIndividuals Gifted]] people. If they don't serve HYDRA, they're seen as a threat, and exterminated.
** ''Series/Daredevil2015'': James Wesley tries to threaten Karen Page into backing off on her investigation into [[ComicBook/TheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] with the offer of a "job", then threatens her life when she makes clear she will not budge. [[TheDogBitesBack Karen grabs his gun and shoots him to death with it]].
** ''Series/LukeCage2016'': Diamondback crashes a secret meeting of gangsters in Colon's Gym and kills all of the bosses, with the exception of Mariah, Shades and Domingo. He tells Domingo that he's being spared to send a message to the other gangs in Harlem: either they buy from Diamondback, or he'll kill them.



* In ''Series/LaFemmeNikita,'' not to be confused with ''{{Series/Nikita}}'', this is part of the NecessarilyEvil [=MIB=] organization's MO. By the time they've tried to recruit you, [[HeKnowsTooMuch you know too much]] to be allowed to walk away. ''Even the leader'' wasn't always the leader, and was brought in by basically being kidnapped, and can't ever show himself to the people who know him as plain old "Paul Wolfe" instead of "Operations" again. Which means ''even someone who lived it eventually came to believe it necessary.''
* In the ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'' episode [[Recap/AgentsOfSHIELDS2E3MakingFriendsAndInfluencingPeople "Making Friends and Influencing People"]], Ward explains that this is HYDRA's policy, particulary towards [[DifferentlyPoweredIndividuals Gifted]] people. If they don't serve HYDRA, they're seen as a threat, and exterminated.



* ''Series/Daredevil2015'': James Wesley tries to threaten Karen Page into backing off on her investigation into [[ComicBook/TheKingpin Wilson Fisk]] with the offer of a "job", then threatens her life when she makes clear she will not budge. [[TheDogBitesBack Karen grabs his gun and shoots him to death with it]].
* ''Series/LukeCage2016'': Diamondback crashes a secret meeting of gangsters in Colon's Gym and kills all of the bosses, with the exception of Mariah, Shades and Domingo. He tells Domingo that he's being spared to send a message to the other gangs in Harlem: either they buy from Diamondback, or he'll kill them.
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** ''TabletopGame/WarhammerFantasy'':
*** Vlad Von Carstein's CatchPhrase was "Surrender and serve me in life, or die and slave for me in death". Those who chose not to surrender to him discovered he was as good as his word.

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* ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'': When the X-Men offered Rogue a chance to join, she was afraid they'd kill her if she refused (Mystique made them look like the bad guys to drive her to her side.) Once she learned they wouldn't, she was more willing to hear them out, and finally joined once Mystique [[KickTheDog kicked one dog too many]].


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* Parodied in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimpsons''. The Japanese commercial for "Mr. Sparkle" dishwashing powder has the eponymous mascot declare to a bunch of attractive models, "Join me or die! Can you do any less?" [[MakesJustAsMuchSenseInContext He then uses his magic to turn them into sumo wrestlers, followed by making a two-headed cow crumble like shattered glass.]]
* ''WesternAnimation/XMenEvolution'': When the X-Men offered Rogue a chance to join, she was afraid they'd kill her if she refused (Mystique made them look like the bad guys to drive her to her side). Once she learned they wouldn't, she was more willing to hear them out, and finally joined once Mystique [[KickTheDog kicked one dog too many]].

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