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* In the ''Literature/Perry Rhodan'' universe, Arkonids have had an empire for 20 thousand years, Akonids have stopped caring about space and became reclusionist about that long ago. Yet neither has ever explored all the galaxy, not even talking about anything beyond. Humanity needs about 200 years from being gifted a drive to produce as many ships as the Arkonid empire, reverse-engineer a different type of hyperdrive, make the traditional one require way less fuel and jump way further, and find stealth methods to prevent detection of the use of the jump drives. In about 600 years Eath is destoyed and humans become kinda nomadic, leading to them travelling to other galaxies. At least the Terrans get help from some Arkonids and from the best microtechnicians in the known part of the galaxy. Until after a few hundred years mutated humans who are only 20 cm tall are better microtechnicians than the ones which used to help them.

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* In the ''Literature/Perry Rhodan'' ''Literature/PerryRhodan'' universe, Arkonids have had an empire for 20 thousand years, Akonids have stopped caring about space and became reclusionist about that long ago. Yet neither has ever explored all the galaxy, not even talking about anything beyond. Humanity needs about 200 years from being gifted a drive to produce as many ships as the Arkonid empire, reverse-engineer a different type of hyperdrive, make the traditional one require way less fuel and jump way further, and find stealth methods to prevent detection of the use of the jump drives. In about 600 years Eath is destoyed and humans become kinda nomadic, leading to them travelling to other galaxies. At least the Terrans get help from some Arkonids and from the best microtechnicians in the known part of the galaxy. Until after a few hundred years mutated humans who are only 20 cm tall are better microtechnicians than the ones which used to help them.


** Also {{Subverted}}: as many Human characters pointed out, mankind has been just as slow advancing as the Lizards for most of its history, and wonder what exactly caused this sudden acceleration in technological advance.



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** Played straight in the ''Literature/SkylarkSeries'' universe at least initially, with Dick Seaton going from UsefulNotes/{{World War One}}-era aviation technology to FTL spaceflight ''in a single jump''. After he gets to Osnome, it's either averted or subverted: almost everything he does from that time on relies in some part on knowledge or technology borrowed from, captured from, or granted to him by other spacefaring races, and his only edge seems to be an ability to put it together into a more seamless whole.
** The ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' universe is, strangely enough, an ''aversion''. The big technological leaps require outside help. As in the ''Skylark'' universe, where the humans ''do'' excel is in terms of upscaling and application.

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Played straight in the ''Literature/SkylarkSeries'' universe at least initially, with Dick Seaton going from UsefulNotes/{{World War One}}-era aviation technology to FTL spaceflight ''in a single jump''. After he gets to Osnome, it's either averted or subverted: almost everything he does from that time on relies in some part on knowledge or technology borrowed from, captured from, or granted to him by other spacefaring races, and his only edge seems to be an ability to put it together into a more seamless whole.
** The ''Literature/{{Lensman}}'' universe is, strangely enough, an ''aversion''. The big technological leaps require outside help. As in the ''Skylark'' universe, where the humans ''do'' excel is in terms of upscaling and application.
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** To illustrate, they need Earth because their own home world is threatened by a black hole. By the end of the story, the ambassador reveals that not only have they managed to ''close'' the black hole, but they have also managed to terraform Venus. So yeah, they don't need our heavily polluted world with dumb apes. All races who discover humanity treat us the same way we may treat a mentally-retarded person.



*** Even more amazing in the Romulans' case: they were unable to build antimatter-powered ships even in TOS, and had to buy the technology and Klingon ships to acquire it, yet in both TOS and ENT their ships punch well above their weight ''even for antimatter-powered ships'' ([[GlassCannon their shields aren't so powerful, though]]), and by TNG they are ''ahead'' in engine technology. They are still somewhat behind in warp technology and their rivals have almost caught up in terms of firepower, though.
*** It should be noted, however, that the Romulans are also the smallest and weakest of the three main factions. They made up for quantity with quality, as it was the only way to ensure that both the Federation and the Klingons would consider fighting them more trouble than it was worth. If either of the two, or worse, ''both'' decided to fight a full on war with them, the Romulans would lose, and they know it. Their tech and capability lead isn't nearly enough to be a real balancing force.
*** The Romulans are actually far more powerful than either the UFP or the Klingons initially believe. Their technology is ahead of the Klingons (who even by the TNG era have yet to upgrade ships en masse) by some way, and is equal to that of the Federation. The main worry of the Federation is that any war with Romulus would be as costly as one with the Klingons, with both races having somewhat...different...ideas regarding the rules of engagement. Worrying about groups of a couple of Klingon Birds-of-Prey is one thing, even a single Romulan warbird would have theoretically unlimited range with which to operate under cloak, making any any all civilian ships and stations a potential target.



*** The Federation also used hardware from Kirk's day, such as the Miranda (from Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan) and Excelsior (from Star Trek III - The Search for Spock) classes during the Dominion War. In both cases, this is likely due to being outnumbered and outgunned forcing them to BreakOutTheMuseumPiece just to keep up.
*** Or [[WatsonianVersusDoylist budget-minded producers reused old props rather than build new ones en masse.]]
*** Or the Klingon military-industrial complex ain't been quite right since Praxis exploded.
*** The Federation does seem to suffer significantly from ModernStasis itself. We were once shown an alternate timeline where the Feds and the Klingons were fighting a 20 year old war, and in all that time, there was only a 100% increase to shield strength. WWII tanks went from 15mm armor to 90 in 6. Plus, the Federation was losing.



** The technology of the galaxy is fairly stagnant at the start of the series because the Goa'uld were in power, and their race had very few individuals interested in science and found their level of technology sufficient to maintain control. It's implied that most of ''their'' advanced technology came from [[PuppeteerParasite subverting advanced races from within]] and [[PlanetLooters "borrowing" their tech]].
*** The only human civilization to consistently advance besides the Tau'ri are the Tollan, who are beating Earth humans by a few centuries (and they don't like to share their tech, so the Tau'ri never reverse engineer it like they do with Goa'uld and Asgard tech). Unfortunately for them, they also seem content to take a measured path towards progress. When Anubis finds a way to counter their only means of planetary defense, they agree to help him develop phasing [=WMDs=]... instead of using those against him.
** Later averted: in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', the Lucian Alliance sends ships to attack a Tau'ri outpost, and the ''Daedalus''-class in orbit is having a tough time holding them off... even with those nifty Asgard plasma beams that can kill seemingly anything in two shots. When questioned, the writers replied that it is a mistake to think that the rest of the galaxy's technology (in particular, their shields) is just going to remain stagnant while the Tau'ri continue to advance.
*** Well, most of Lucian Alliance members are human. Now that they have appropriated old Goa'uld technology and filled the power vacuum, it's stupid for them ''not'' to advance their tech. After all, they're still struggling against Earth and the Free Jaffa Nation. The Jaffa, though, don't appear to be willing to advance, which may spell doom for them.
*** That said, the ''Daedalus''-class ship was brand new and most likely not fully equipped yet. A fully powered, manned, and equipped ''Daedalus'' ship would have finished them off fairly quickly, though this would not have made for good television.
* In ''Series/BabylonFive'', Minbari were a starfaring civilization when humans were whacking at each other with swords. Now humans are at or near, depending on the specific technologies, the level of Minbari, and the Minbari seem to not have had a significant technological advance in a long while. The same applies to the Centauri. However, the trope is subverted in that most of humanity's major advancements since becoming a spacefaring power ''are'' Centauri and Minbari technology, [[ImportedAlienPhlebotinum or otherwise come from other races]]: the former gave them [[FTLTravel jump technology]], and many human weapons are based on Narn technology, which is itself pirated Centauri tech; the Minbari taught humans how to make ArtificialGravity technology when Earth agreed to join [[TheFederation the Interstellar Alliance]], and later also provided them with some of the technology used in the White Stars, with the human ''Marathon''-class cruiser appearing in the ExpandedUniverse being the only non-Minbari ship to use neutron weapons (presumably scavenged from some battlefield the Minbari forgot to clean, as the White Stars don't employ that technology); for the rest, [=EarthForce=] [[SpaceFighter Aurora-class starfuries]] are a reworking of an earlier model of starfury made with reverse-engineered Dilgar technologies (with Dilgar bolt weapons in particular being the basis for human pulse weapons), and the celebrated interceptors (point defence weapons so fast-firing and accurate to [[ShootTheBullet swat down of the sky enemy weapon fire]]. [[CurbStompBattle Enemy fighters are practically target practice]]) are based on technology taken from an abandoned alien ship, and Earthforce is frequently shown to be outright obsessed with obtaining alien technology for study and reverse-engineering.
** Before the White Star(s), Minbari technologically outclassed humanity in every area, to the extent that a war between them just a decade in the setting's past was a complete disaster for us. Humans were so outmatched that bringing down the Minbari's Black Star warship was considered the ONLY EarthForce victory in the entire war. In the postwar era, the Vorlons and Minbari contributed technologies that allowed humans to gain more ground on the more established interstellar races.
** For comparison, the new ''Warlock''-class destroyers are stated to be a one-to-one match to the Minbari ''Sharlin''-class warcruisers. However, numerically, humanity is still behind, as there are only about 50 ''Warlock''s in the fleet, while the Minbari have hundreds, if not thousands, of ''Sharlin''s.

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** The technology of the galaxy is fairly stagnant at the start of the series because the Goa'uld were in power, and their race had very few individuals interested in science and found their level of technology sufficient to maintain control. It's implied that most of ''their'' advanced technology came from [[PuppeteerParasite subverting advanced races from within]] and [[PlanetLooters "borrowing" their tech]].
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The only human civilization to consistently advance besides the Tau'ri are the Tollan, who are beating Earth humans by a few centuries (and they don't like to share their tech, so the Tau'ri never reverse engineer it like they do with Goa'uld and Asgard tech). Unfortunately for them, they also seem content to take a measured path towards progress. When Anubis finds a way to counter their only means of planetary defense, they agree to help him develop phasing [=WMDs=]... instead of using those against him.
** Later averted: in ''Series/StargateUniverse'', the Lucian Alliance sends ships to attack a Tau'ri outpost, and the ''Daedalus''-class in orbit is having a tough time holding them off... even with those nifty Asgard plasma beams that can kill seemingly anything in two shots. When questioned, the writers replied that it is a mistake to think that the rest of the galaxy's technology (in particular, their shields) is just going to remain stagnant while the Tau'ri continue to advance.
*** Well, most of Lucian Alliance members are human. Now that they have appropriated old Goa'uld technology and filled the power vacuum, it's stupid for them ''not'' to advance their tech. After all, they're still struggling against Earth and the Free Jaffa Nation. The Jaffa, though, don't appear to be willing to advance, which may spell doom for them.
*** That said, the ''Daedalus''-class ship was brand new and most likely not fully equipped yet. A fully powered, manned, and equipped ''Daedalus'' ship would have finished them off fairly quickly, though this would not have made for good television.
* In ''Series/BabylonFive'', Minbari were a starfaring civilization when humans were whacking at each other with swords. Now humans are at or near, depending on the specific technologies, the level of Minbari, and the Minbari seem to not have had a significant technological advance in a long while. The same applies to the Centauri. However, the trope is subverted in that most of humanity's major advancements since becoming a spacefaring power ''are'' Centauri and Minbari technology, [[ImportedAlienPhlebotinum or otherwise come from other races]]: the former gave them [[FTLTravel jump technology]], and many human weapons are based on Narn technology, which is itself pirated Centauri tech; the Minbari taught humans how to make ArtificialGravity technology when Earth agreed to join [[TheFederation the Interstellar Alliance]], and later also provided them with some of the technology used in the White Stars, with the human ''Marathon''-class cruiser appearing in the ExpandedUniverse being the only non-Minbari ship to use neutron weapons (presumably scavenged from some battlefield the Minbari forgot to clean, as the White Stars don't employ that technology); for the rest, [=EarthForce=] [[SpaceFighter Aurora-class starfuries]] are a reworking of an earlier model of starfury made with reverse-engineered Dilgar technologies (with Dilgar bolt weapons in particular being the basis for human pulse weapons), and the celebrated interceptors (point defence weapons so fast-firing and accurate to [[ShootTheBullet swat down of the sky enemy weapon fire]]. [[CurbStompBattle Enemy fighters are practically target practice]]) are based on technology taken from an abandoned alien ship, and Earthforce is frequently shown to be outright obsessed with obtaining alien technology for study and reverse-engineering.
** Before the White Star(s), Minbari technologically outclassed humanity in every area, to the extent that a war between them just a decade in the setting's past was a complete disaster for us. Humans were so outmatched that bringing down the Minbari's Black Star warship was considered the ONLY EarthForce victory in the entire war. In the postwar era, the Vorlons and Minbari contributed technologies that allowed humans to gain more ground on the more established interstellar races.
** For comparison, the new ''Warlock''-class destroyers are stated to be a one-to-one match to the Minbari ''Sharlin''-class warcruisers. However, numerically, humanity is still behind, as there are only about 50 ''Warlock''s in the fleet, while the Minbari have hundreds, if not thousands, of ''Sharlin''s.



* In ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'', humanity built a military machine called [=SolForce=], capable of defending itself from the stagnant [[InsectoidAliens Hivers]] and [[LizardFolk Tarka]] who both beat us to the stars by a few millennia, in a matter of decades. Subverted in that humanity are still chump change compared to the Liir, who just popped up into the galactic scene from practically nowhere in a manner of years. In-game, the humans are second-best at research, behind the Liir and above the Hivers and Tarka. With ''A Murder of Crows'' they share the second place with the [[{{Precursors}} Morrigi]] in the beginning, but the latter's economy bonus means they zoom past humanity in research once they've started trading.

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* In ''VideoGame/SwordOfTheStars'', humanity built a military machine called [=SolForce=], capable of defending itself from the stagnant [[InsectoidAliens Hivers]] and [[LizardFolk Tarka]] who both beat us to the stars by a few millennia, in a matter of decades. Subverted in that humanity Humanity are still chump change compared to the Liir, who just popped up into the galactic scene from practically nowhere in a manner of years. In-game, the humans are second-best at research, behind the Liir and above the Hivers and Tarka. With ''A Murder of Crows'' they share the second place with the [[{{Precursors}} Morrigi]] in the beginning, but the latter's economy bonus means they zoom past humanity in research once they've started trading.



** Surprisingly subverted in the backstory if you look at the timeline; even before they began utilizing reverse-engineered Forerunner technology, the Elites, Drones, and Jackals had already made it to space by 938 BCE, 1112 CE, and 1342 CE respectively, despite all being at the same tech level as humanity 100,000 years ago, with the pre-Covenant Elites in particular having already developed technology comparable to 26th century humanity's.



* Discussed in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX''. All humanity's recent inventions that allowed them to avoid being blown up along with Earth, including FTL travel, mechas, forcefields and [[spoiler:RidiculouslyHumanRobot bodies]] were all developed within the last 30 years. [[BigBad Luxaar]] is rather frustrated that such [[FantasticRacism "primitive"]] creatures could have such technology. [[spoiler:Subverted when it's revealed that all of said tech came from Elma's people.]]

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* Discussed in ''VideoGame/XenobladeChroniclesX''. All humanity's recent inventions that allowed them to avoid being blown up along with Earth, including FTL travel, mechas, forcefields and [[spoiler:RidiculouslyHumanRobot bodies]] were all developed within the last 30 years. [[BigBad Luxaar]] is rather frustrated that such [[FantasticRacism "primitive"]] creatures could have such technology. [[spoiler:Subverted when it's [[spoiler:It's revealed that all of said tech came from Elma's people.]]



* This is one of the driving themes behind ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary''. However, it's ultimately subverted; the main galaxy-changing human invention (the teraport) has actually been created numerous times; it's just that time around, due to the inventor joining a highly competent mercenary company by pure chance and spamming the galaxy with the design once he realized what was happening, the secret got out before it could be suppressed.

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* This is one of the driving themes behind ''Webcomic/SchlockMercenary''. However, it's ultimately subverted; the main galaxy-changing human invention (the teraport) has actually been created numerous times; it's just that time around, due to the inventor joining a highly competent mercenary company by pure chance and spamming the galaxy with the design once he realized what was happening, the secret got out before it could be suppressed.


** Outside of religious dogma, the other big factor seemingly constricting the Covenant's advancement was that R&D in general was mostly reserved for only two species; the Engineers, who by the deliberate design of their original Forerunner creators were far more interested in improving the functionality of pre-existing technology as opposed to creating new inventions, and the Prophets, who despite their intelligence were simply far too few in number to ever match humanity's collective brainpower.

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** Outside of religious dogma, the other big factor seemingly constricting the Covenant's advancement was that R&D in general was mostly reserved for only two species; the Engineers, who by the deliberate design of their original Forerunner creators were far more interested in improving the functionality of pre-existing technology as opposed to creating new inventions, and the Prophets, [[TribeOfPriests Prophets]], who despite their intelligence were simply far too few in number to ever match humanity's collective brainpower.

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** An earlier Turtledove story, ''The Road Not Taken'', has the premise that interstellar travel is actually stupidly easy to do, but that humans not realizing it allowed them to invest their inventive power in other technologies ''instead'' of spaceships. Humans learn of this when would-be Alien conquerors arrive [[InsufficientlyAdvancedAlien armed with pikes and black powder arquebuses]], and they are promptly massacred by human militaries.


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* This trope is very much TruthInTelevision. Before the "mental revolution" in African Homo sapiens about 70,000 years ago, it was the norm for lithic industries to remain unchanged for hundreds of thousands of years, even as their makers evolved in completely new biological species. If we factor in the tools made by non-hominids like bird nests and insect-catching sticks, we may conclude that the norm is for technology to remain unchanged for millions of years.
** Oldowan or "Mode I" tools were used both by ''Homo habilis'', who was little more than a glorified ''Australopithecus'', and the much more human-like ''H. ergaster'' in Africa and ''H. erectus'' in Eurasia. They appeared 2.6 million years ago and were phased out 1.7 million years ago, 900,000 years later.
** Acheulean or "Mode II" tools were used from 1.7 million years ago to only 130,000 years ago in Africa. This makes its main development, the hand-axe, the longest used tool in all of human history.
** Mousterian or "Mode III" tools were used by the Neanderthals of Europe from 160,000 to 40,000 years ago. A brief, enigmatic new technology known as Chatelperronian (45,000 - 40,000 years ago) has been interpreted as Neanderthal attempts to imitate the Aurignacian or "Mode IV" used by newly arrived ''H. sapiens''. If true, this means Neanderthals were smart enough to realize their technology was outclassed upon meeting ''H. sapiens'', yet it didn't occur to them to improve on their technology before that.
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* One of the great advantages of humanity in ''VideoGame/XCOMEnemyUnknown''. In a matter of months, humanity goes from being armed with conventional weapons - akin to peashooters when compared to the aliens' equipment - to reverse-engineering their armor, power sources, weaponry, and psionics to field soldiers better armed than the enemy's frontline troops, and equipping fighter craft that are better-armed than their ''battleships''. [[spoiler: That was all part of the Ethereals' plan; they wanted an intelligent, strong species to add to their collective, and humans were ideal to that end. Too bad for them that humanity proves [[GoneHorriblyRight too good at the job]].]]
** Specifically, they wanted [[spoiler:a strong, smart race that was also capable of using [[PsychicPowers the Gift]], since most of their other subjects are, basically, failures]].

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* One of the great advantages of humanity in ''VideoGame/XCOMEnemyUnknown''. In a matter of months, humanity goes from being armed with conventional weapons - akin to peashooters when compared to the aliens' equipment - to reverse-engineering their armor, power sources, weaponry, and psionics to field soldiers better armed than the enemy's frontline troops, and equipping fighter craft that are better-armed than their ''battleships''. [[spoiler: That was all part of the Ethereals' plan; they wanted an intelligent, strong species to add to their collective, and humans were ideal to that end. Too bad for them that humanity proves [[GoneHorriblyRight too good at the job]].]]
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Specifically, they wanted [[spoiler:a a strong, smart race that was also capable of using [[PsychicPowers the Gift]], since most of their other subjects are, basically, failures]].failures]].
** The same then happens all over again in [[VideoGame/XCOM2 the sequel]], only this time with only two individuals doing all the researching and engineering with almost no resources and barely any support. Mankind still manages to kick the aliens' asses regardless.


*** The only human civilization to consistently advance besides the Tau'ri are the Tollan, who are beating Earth humans by a few centuries (to the point where their tech is simply declared non-replicateable, while Goa'uld and Asgard tech, apparently, is replicateable). Unfortunately for them, they also seem content to take a measured path towards progress. When Anubis finds a way to counter their only means of planetary defense, they agree to help him develop phasing [=WMDs=]... instead of using those against him.

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*** The only human civilization to consistently advance besides the Tau'ri are the Tollan, who are beating Earth humans by a few centuries (to the point where (and they don't like to share their tech is simply declared non-replicateable, while tech, so the Tau'ri never reverse engineer it like they do with Goa'uld and Asgard tech, apparently, is replicateable).tech). Unfortunately for them, they also seem content to take a measured path towards progress. When Anubis finds a way to counter their only means of planetary defense, they agree to help him develop phasing [=WMDs=]... instead of using those against him.

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** For comparison, the new ''Warlock''-class destroyers are stated to be a one-to-one match to the Minbari ''Sharlin''-class warcruisers. However, numerically, humanity is still behind, as there are only about 50 ''Warlock''s in the fleet, while the Minbari have hundreds, if not thousands, of ''Sharlin''s.


*** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' does show that the Klingons seemed to have developed cloaking tech all on their own. Previously, the commonly-accepted fan theory (stated in several novels) was that it was due to a technology exchange with the Klingons during a short-lived alliance (explaining why Romulans are using Klingons ships in a few TOS episodes). While it's still possible for T'Kuvma to have obtained the tech from a Romulan or a Suliban, this isn't mentioned. At least one Klingon House has pretty advanced surgical techniques, which can be used to [[spoiler:create a ManchurianAgent that passes all Federation testing]].

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*** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' does show that the Klingons seemed to have developed cloaking tech all on their own. Previously, the commonly-accepted fan theory (stated in several novels) was that it was due to a technology exchange with the Klingons Romulans during a short-lived alliance (explaining why Romulans are using Klingons ships in a few TOS episodes). While it's still possible for T'Kuvma to have obtained the tech from a Romulan or a Suliban, this isn't mentioned. At least one Klingon House has pretty advanced surgical techniques, which can be used to [[spoiler:create a ManchurianAgent that passes all Federation testing]].

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*** ''Series/StarTrekDiscovery'' does show that the Klingons seemed to have developed cloaking tech all on their own. Previously, the commonly-accepted fan theory (stated in several novels) was that it was due to a technology exchange with the Klingons during a short-lived alliance (explaining why Romulans are using Klingons ships in a few TOS episodes). While it's still possible for T'Kuvma to have obtained the tech from a Romulan or a Suliban, this isn't mentioned. At least one Klingon House has pretty advanced surgical techniques, which can be used to [[spoiler:create a ManchurianAgent that passes all Federation testing]].


** It's revealed that the Klingons got a jump-start on their technology when an alien race known only as the Hur'q invaded [=Qo'noS=]. After kicking them out (to the point where there are no Hur'q to be found), the Klingons appropriate their technology and embark on a quest to conquer the galaxy. [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect Scientists are treated like crap in their society]], as are doctors, although there are some indicators that this is a fairly recent development. Archer's Klingon lawyer explains that his used to be a revered profession, as well as his father's, who was a teacher. Now, all Klingons think that honor and glory belong only to warriors (including those who slaughter defenseless civilians). The ''IKS Gorkon'' novels show how difficult it is for a doctor and an engineer (both of whom are women, although that is irrelevant in Klingon society outside of politics) to make significant changes in Klingon society due to social taboos.

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** It's revealed that the Klingons got a jump-start on their technology in the 14th century, when an alien race known only as the Hur'q invaded [=Qo'noS=]. After kicking them out (to the point where there are no Hur'q to be found), the Klingons appropriate their technology and embark on a quest to conquer the galaxy. [[KlingonScientistsGetNoRespect Scientists are treated like crap in their society]], as are doctors, although there are some indicators that this is a fairly recent development. Archer's Klingon lawyer explains that his used to be a revered profession, as well as his father's, who was a teacher. Now, all Klingons think that honor and glory belong only to warriors (including those who slaughter defenseless civilians). The ''IKS Gorkon'' novels show how difficult it is for a doctor and an engineer (both of whom are women, although that is irrelevant in Klingon society outside of politics) to make significant changes in Klingon society due to social taboos.

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* Humans in ''VideoGame/{{Stellaris}}'' have the "Quick Learners" trait which lets their leaders gain experience 25% faster than other races. This very useful trait means their scientists can level up really quickly and pump out tons of research.


*** The Federation also used hardware from Kirk's day, such as the Miranda (from Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan) and Excelsior (from Star Trek III - The Search for Spock) classes during the Dominion War.

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*** The Federation also used hardware from Kirk's day, such as the Miranda (from Star Trek II - The Wrath of Khan) and Excelsior (from Star Trek III - The Search for Spock) classes during the Dominion War. In both cases, this is likely due to being outnumbered and outgunned forcing them to BreakOutTheMuseumPiece just to keep up.


** Also, the Chaos Dwarfs primarily power their technology through daemonic possession, and the Skaven power their machines with warpstone (which has a tendency to mutate anything it touches, if it doesn't just explode) and many of their machines explode before they can build a second one. Plus, their are Dwarfs who will use machines without testing them for two centuries, but they usually head to the human city of Nuln, [[{{Irony}} meaning that the only Dwarfs who might actually innovate at a decent rate are doing it for the human empire.]]

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** Also, the Chaos Dwarfs primarily power their technology through daemonic possession, and the Skaven power their machines with warpstone (which has a tendency to mutate anything it touches, if it doesn't just explode) and many of their machines explode before they can build a second one. Plus, their there are Dwarfs who will use machines without testing them for two centuries, but they usually head to the human city of Nuln, [[{{Irony}} meaning that the only Dwarfs who might actually innovate at a decent rate are doing it for the human empire.]]


* In {{Noblesse}}, discussed by the Previous Lord, and Rai isn't exactly fazed by going to sleep for 820 years and waking up in a modern city. The human he spent the most time with was a scientific genius, so he probably figures that massive technological advances are what humans so.

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* In {{Noblesse}}, ''Webcomic/{{Noblesse}}'', discussed by the Previous Lord, and Rai isn't exactly fazed by going to sleep for 820 years and waking up in a modern city. The human he spent the most time with was a scientific genius, so he probably figures that massive technological advances are what humans so.

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