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* XMeetsY: The entire novel is one, being DarkFantasy meets [[TheWildWest Western]].
** The Ghosts are another example, and seem to be a combination of the savagest parts of the mid-19th century Native American tribes and Saxon hordes.
** The Ghosts are another example, and seem to be a combination of the savagest parts of the mid-19th century Native American tribes and Saxon hordes.
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* VillainousValor: Sworbreck came to the Far Country to find heroism and courage, only to find both to be in short supply there. When he witnesses Shivers sitting in a restaurant, holding a mercenary officer (who has several hundred men outside) hostage with one hand while calming finishing his breakfast with the other, he notes that while he has yet to see any heroism, he's at least found some undeniable courage.
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* ReliableTraitor: Cosca
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* ReliableTraitor: Reliable Traitor: Cosca
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* PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.* PrivateMilitaryContractors: Cosca's Company of the Gracious Hand.
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* PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.back.
* PrivateMilitaryContractors: Cosca's Company of the Gracious Hand.
* PrivateMilitaryContractors: Cosca's Company of the Gracious Hand.
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* AntiHero: par for the course for Abercrombie's works.
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* AntiHero: par Par for the course for Abercrombie's works.
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* NonIndicativeName:
** Shy is certainly not shy, which people remark upon.
** Lamb ''is'' very meek when we first see him, but as we eventually realize [[spoiler:he's Logen Ninefingers, the most brutal and dangerous man alive]].
** Shy is certainly not shy, which people remark upon.
** Lamb ''is'' very meek when we first see him, but as we eventually realize [[spoiler:he's Logen Ninefingers, the most brutal and dangerous man alive]].
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* PreMortemOneLiner: "I've killed better men for worse reasons."
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* PreMortemOneLiner: PreMortemOneLiner:
** "I've killed better men for worse reasons."
** "I've killed better men for worse reasons."
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* RetiredBadass: Lamb.
** RetiredMonster: He used to be TheDreaded, and that side of him quickly comes out after he's called out of retirement.
** RetiredMonster: He used to be TheDreaded, and that side of him quickly comes out after he's called out of retirement.
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* RetiredBadass: Lamb.
[[spoiler:Lamb, who is actually the infamous fighter Logen Ninefingers]].
* RetiredMonster:
**RetiredMonster: He used to be TheDreaded, and [[spoiler:Shy was once a ruthless bandit called Smoke, but she's put that side behind her]].
** [[spoiler:Lamb is actually Logen Ninefingers, called the Bloody Nine for the litany ofhim quickly comes out after atrocities he's called out of retirement.perpetrated over the years]].
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** [[spoiler:Lamb is actually Logen Ninefingers, called the Bloody Nine for the litany of
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* SacrificialLamb: [[spoiler: Sufeen]] dies pretty early on, but by the end of the story it seems his sacrifice was not in vain.
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* SacrificialLamb: SacrificialLamb:
** [[spoiler: Sufeen]] dies pretty early on, but by the end of the story it seems his sacrifice was not invain.vain.
** [[spoiler:Leef dies in a Ghost attack fairly early in the story]].
** [[spoiler: Sufeen]] dies pretty early on, but by the end of the story it seems his sacrifice was not in
** [[spoiler:Leef dies in a Ghost attack fairly early in the story]].
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* StockholmSyndrome: [[spoiler: Ro]] readjusts very slowly and reluctantly to be removed from the Dragon People.
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* StockholmSyndrome: [[spoiler: Ro]] readjusts very slowly Pit and reluctantly Ro take to be removed from their new lives among the Dragon People.People very quickly. [[spoiler:Ro in particular continues feeling aligned with her surrogate family long after she's rescued]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: [[spoiler:When Lamb is worked into a berserker frenzy, he's nigh unkillable, and kills just about anything in front of him]].
* SuperpoweredEvilSide: [[spoiler:When Lamb is worked into a berserker frenzy, he's nigh unkillable, and kills just about anything in front of him]].
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* TookALevelInJerkass: Brint, now a General, was introduced in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' as a lovable UpperClassTwit appears briefly here, and is described as having lost (during the events of ''The Heroes'') "most of his arm and all of his sense of humor" (in addition to having his wife kidnapped and experiencing a presumed FateWorseThanDeath). Brint behaves like a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain when he interacts with Temple, and is sort of the BiggerBad of the novel, since he is in charge of the soldiers, Inquisition Forces, and Cosca's mercenaries, who he tasked with brutally crushing rebels who don't want to be ruled by the Union.
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* TookALevelInJerkass: TookALevelInJerkass:
** Brint, now a General, was introduced in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' as a lovable UpperClassTwit appears briefly here, and is described as having lost (during the events of ''The Heroes'') "most of his arm and all of his sense of humor" (in addition to having his wife kidnapped and experiencing a presumed FateWorseThanDeath). Brint behaves like a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain when he interacts with Temple, and is sort of the BiggerBad of the novel, since he is in charge of the soldiers, Inquisition Forces, and Cosca's mercenaries, who he tasked with brutally crushing rebels who don't want to be ruled by the Union.
** Brint, now a General, was introduced in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' as a lovable UpperClassTwit appears briefly here, and is described as having lost (during the events of ''The Heroes'') "most of his arm and all of his sense of humor" (in addition to having his wife kidnapped and experiencing a presumed FateWorseThanDeath). Brint behaves like a PoliticallyIncorrectVillain when he interacts with Temple, and is sort of the BiggerBad of the novel, since he is in charge of the soldiers, Inquisition Forces, and Cosca's mercenaries, who he tasked with brutally crushing rebels who don't want to be ruled by the Union.
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* TookALevelInKindness: Glama Golden was TheFightingNarcissist and an ArrogantKungFuGuy in his previous appearance, but shows up here as a rather broken man who is considerably wiser and kinder. [[spoiler: In a HeelFaceDoorslam, he agrees to duel Lamb and dies a horrible death at the hands of The Bloody Nine]]
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* TookALevelInKindness: Glama Golden was TheFightingNarcissist and an ArrogantKungFuGuy in his previous appearance, but shows up here as a rather broken man who is considerably wiser and kinder. [[spoiler: In a HeelFaceDoorslam, Heel Face Doorslam, he agrees to duel Lamb and dies a horrible death at the hands of The Bloody Nine]]
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->Evil turned out not to be a grand thing. Not sneering emperors, with world conquering designs. Not crackling demons plotting in the darkness beyond the world. It was small men with their small acts and their small reasons. It was selfishness and carelessness and waste. It was bad luck, incompetence and stupidity. It was violence divorced from conscience or consequence. It was high ideals, even, with low methods.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: When Cosca orders Friendly to kill children, Friendly at first asked Cosca which to kill, then confesses that he would really rather not kill any of them.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: When Cosca orders Friendly to kill children, Friendly at first asked asks Cosca which to kill, then confesses that he would really rather not kill any of them.
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* DoomedHometown. Dagoska for Temple and The Mayor. The events that made it doomed are detailed in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' trilogy.
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* DoomedHometown. Dagoska for Temple Squaredeal is sacked by bandits and The Mayor. The events that made it doomed children are detailed in ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' trilogy.hauled off, causing Shy and Lamb to set forth on their adventure.
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* ActionGirl: Shy, certainly.
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* ActionGirl: Shy, certainly.who has some experience with violence that she'd rather leave in the past.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Shy and Temple are together and Pit and Ro are safe... but Lamb leaves, realizing he can't escape the past.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Shy and Temple are together and Pit and Ro are safe... but safe. On the other hand, lots of people have died, Ro has been alienated from her family and might never fully recover, and Lamb leaves, realizing he can't escape the past.]]
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* AntiHero: par for the course for Abercrombie's works:
** ClassicalAntiHero: Temple is one, being a humorously unlucky coward
** GoodIsNotNice: Shy has a hard edge, but is a basically decent person.
** PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.
** ClassicalAntiHero: Temple is one, being a humorously unlucky coward
** GoodIsNotNice: Shy has a hard edge, but is a basically decent person.
** PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.
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* AntiHero: par for the course for Abercrombie's works:
** ClassicalAntiHero: Temple is one, being a humorously unlucky coward
** GoodIsNotNice: Shy has a hard edge, but is a basically decent person.
** PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.works.
** ClassicalAntiHero: Temple is one, being a humorously unlucky coward
** GoodIsNotNice: Shy has a hard edge, but is a basically decent person.
** PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.
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* AwesomeMcCoolName: Well, Lamb once had one. [[spoiler: Logen Ninefingers, AKA: the Bloody Nine.]]
* ClassicalAntiHero: Temple is one, being a humorously unlucky coward
* GoodIsNotNice: Shy has a hard edge, but is a basically decent person.
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* PrivateMilitaryContractors: Cosca's Company of the Gracious Hand.
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* PragmaticHero: Lamb, sometimes verging on NominalHero. He ''tries'' to be a good guy, but his [[RetiredMonster dark past]] and SuperpoweredEvilSide cause him to pursue nasty methods in order to get his children back.* PrivateMilitaryContractors: Cosca's Company of the Gracious Hand.
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* WeNamedTheMonkeyJack: Lamb named his oxen Calder and Scale, after Bethod's sons, probably as a private insult against the pair.
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* BashBrothers: Briefly Logen and Savian
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* BashBrothers: Briefly Logen Lamb and Savian
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* AfraidOfTheirOwnStrength: Lamb, who would rather be known as a coward than fight again.
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After a {{deconstruction}} of HighFantasy with TheFirstLaw trilogy, a take at a {{swashbuckler}} revenge story set against a backdrop of warring city states with Literature/BestServedCold, another take at the [[WarIsHell war novel]] genre with Literature/TheHeroes, RedCountry is Joe Abercrombie's tentative to crack open and end the [[SamuraiCowboy fantasy western genre]]. The nods, homage, parodies and subversions taking from both samurai films and the westerns they inspired – from the split city shown in ''Film/{{Yojimbo}}'' to the CattleDrive, from a desperate [[TheSearchers search for missing loved ones]] to a RetiredGunslinger [[AxeCrazy that cannot change]] – are too many to be counted.
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After a {{deconstruction}} of HighFantasy with TheFirstLaw Literature/TheFirstLaw trilogy, a take at a {{swashbuckler}} revenge story set against a backdrop of warring city states with Literature/BestServedCold, another take at the [[WarIsHell war novel]] genre with Literature/TheHeroes, RedCountry is Joe Abercrombie's tentative to crack open and end the [[SamuraiCowboy fantasy western genre]]. The nods, homage, parodies and subversions taking from both samurai films and the westerns they inspired – from the split city shown in ''Film/{{Yojimbo}}'' to the CattleDrive, from a desperate [[TheSearchers search for missing loved ones]] to a RetiredGunslinger [[AxeCrazy that cannot change]] – are too many to be counted.
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As standalone sequel to ''TheFirstLaw'', it features several previous players from the series, often under different names/nicknames.
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As standalone sequel to ''TheFirstLaw'', ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'', it features several previous players from the series, often under different names/nicknames.
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** Lamb. [[spoiler: The fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' alone.]]
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** Lamb. [[spoiler: The fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' ''Literature/TheFirstLaw'' alone.]]
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After a {{deconstruction}} of HighFantasy with TheFirstLaw trilogy, a take at a {{swashbuckler}} revenge story set against a backdrop of warring city states with Literature/BestServedCold, another take at the [[WarIsHell war novel]] genre with Literature/TheHeroes, RedCountry is Joe Abercrombie's tentative to crack open and end the [[SamuraiCowboy fantasy western genre]]. The nods, homage, parodies and subversions taking from both samurai films and the westerns they inspired – from the split city shown in {{Yojimbo}} to the CattleDrive, from a desperate [[TheSearchers search for missing loved ones]] to a RetiredGunslinger [[AxeCrazy that cannot change]] – are too many to be counted.
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After a {{deconstruction}} of HighFantasy with TheFirstLaw trilogy, a take at a {{swashbuckler}} revenge story set against a backdrop of warring city states with Literature/BestServedCold, another take at the [[WarIsHell war novel]] genre with Literature/TheHeroes, RedCountry is Joe Abercrombie's tentative to crack open and end the [[SamuraiCowboy fantasy western genre]]. The nods, homage, parodies and subversions taking from both samurai films and the westerns they inspired – from the split city shown in {{Yojimbo}} ''Film/{{Yojimbo}}'' to the CattleDrive, from a desperate [[TheSearchers search for missing loved ones]] to a RetiredGunslinger [[AxeCrazy that cannot change]] – are too many to be counted.
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* LovableRogue: Cosca was this. In the recent years, he's grown...considerably less lovable.
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* LovableRogue: Cosca was this. In the recent years, he's grown... considerably less lovable.
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* MookHorrorShow: Jubair vs. Bloody Nine (‘God . . .’ whimpered Jubair, stumbling back towards the steps, and suddenly there were arms around him. ‘Gone,’ came a whisper. ‘But I am here.’)
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* MookHorrorShow: Jubair vs. Bloody Nine (‘God . . .(‘God...’ whimpered Jubair, stumbling back towards the steps, and suddenly there were arms around him. ‘Gone,’ came a whisper. ‘But I am here.’)
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** Lamb. [[spoiler: the fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' alone.]]
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** Lamb. [[spoiler: the The fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' alone.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Shy and Temple are together and Pit and Ro are safe...but Lamb leaves, realizing he can't escape the past.]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler: Shy and Temple are together and Pit and Ro are safe... but Lamb leaves, realizing he can't escape the past.]]
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After a {{deconstruction}} of HighFantasy with TheFirstLaw trilogy, a take at a {{swashbuckler}} revenge story set against a backdrop of warring city states with Literature/BestServedCold, another take at the [[WarIsHell war novel]] genre with Literature/TheHeroes, RedCountry is JoeAbercrombie's tentative to crack open and end the [[SamuraiCowboy fantasy western genre]]. The nods, homage, parodies and subversions taking from both samurai films and the westerns they inspired – from the split city shown in {{Yojimbo}} to the CattleDrive, from a desperate [[TheSearchers search for missing loved ones]] to a RetiredGunslinger [[AxeCrazy that cannot change]] – are too many to be counted.
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After a {{deconstruction}} of HighFantasy with TheFirstLaw trilogy, a take at a {{swashbuckler}} revenge story set against a backdrop of warring city states with Literature/BestServedCold, another take at the [[WarIsHell war novel]] genre with Literature/TheHeroes, RedCountry is JoeAbercrombie's Joe Abercrombie's tentative to crack open and end the [[SamuraiCowboy fantasy western genre]]. The nods, homage, parodies and subversions taking from both samurai films and the westerns they inspired – from the split city shown in {{Yojimbo}} to the CattleDrive, from a desperate [[TheSearchers search for missing loved ones]] to a RetiredGunslinger [[AxeCrazy that cannot change]] – are too many to be counted.
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* WorkOffTheDebt: Temple finds himself in debt to Shy when she saves his life and buys him a space on the caravan, and spends much of the book working it off.
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* MookHorrorShow: Jubair vs. Bloody Nine (‘God . . .’ whimpered Jubair, stumbling back towards the steps, and suddenly there were arms around him. ‘Gone,’ came a whisper. ‘But I am here.’)
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* ThatManIsDead: Lamb and the Mayor are strongly implied to be, respectively, Logen Ninefingers and Carlot dan Ider. However, neither's old name is actually stated at any point, and the Mayor even comments that she'd lost everything, including her name.
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* ThatManIsDead: Lamb and the Mayor are strongly implied to be, respectively, Logen Ninefingers and Carlot dan Ider.Eider. However, neither's old name is actually stated at any point, and the Mayor even comments that she'd lost everything, including her name.
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* Foreshadowing: "I believe my greatest performance is yet in front of me."
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* Foreshadowing: {{Foreshadowing}}: "I believe my greatest performance is yet in front of me."
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* GuileHero: Temple is essentially one, falling back on his varied experience to do so. Probably, he's entitled to be called one for engineering the plan against Cosca in Crease.
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* GuileHero: Temple is essentially one, falling back on his varied experience to do so. Probably, he's entitled to be called one for engineering the plan against Cosca in Crease.
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* ThatManIsDead: Lamb and the Mayor are strongly implied to be, respectively, Logen Ninefingers and Carlot dan Ider. However, neither's old name is actually stated at any point, and the Mayor even comments that she'd lost everything, including her name.
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* ThatManIsDead: Lamb and the Mayor are strongly implied to be, respectively, Logen Ninefingers and Carlot dan Ider. However, neither's old name is actually stated at any point, and the Mayor even comments that she'd lost everything, including her name.
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* Foreshadowing: "I believe my greatest performance is yet in front of me."
* GuileHero: Temple is essentially one, falling back on his varied experience to do so. Probably, he's entitled to be called one for engineering the plan against Cosca in Crease.
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* ThatManIsDead.StockholmSyndrome: [[spoiler: Ro]] readjusts very slowly and reluctantly to be removed from the Dragon People.
* ThatManIsDead: Lamb and the Mayor are strongly implied to be, respectively, Logen Ninefingers and Carlot dan Ider. However, neither's old name is actually stated at any point, and the Mayor even comments that she'd lost everything, including her name.
* ThatManIsDead: Lamb and the Mayor are strongly implied to be, respectively, Logen Ninefingers and Carlot dan Ider. However, neither's old name is actually stated at any point, and the Mayor even comments that she'd lost everything, including her name.
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* TheBerserker: As in the main trilogy, Lamb is prone to letting his SuperPoweredEvilSide take over during fights, at which point he kills without prejudice. He smashes in the head of the referee after he kills Glama Golden, and nearly kills [[spoiler: Ro]].
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* EvenEvilHasItsStandards: When Cosca orders Friendly to kill children, Friendly at first asked Cosca which to kill, then confesses that he would really rather not kill any of them.
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* EvenEvilHasItsStandards: EvenEvilHasStandards: When Cosca orders Friendly to kill children, Friendly at first asked Cosca which to kill, then confesses that he would really rather not kill any of them.
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: Lamb. [[spoiler: the fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' alone.]]
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: DarkAndTroubledPast:
** Lamb. [[spoiler: the fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' alone.]]]]
** Shy. The reader quickly learns that she had a past as a outlaw, but left it behind her. We don't find out until much later that [[spoiler: it's because another woman was mis-identified as her outlaw persona and hanged in Shy's place]].
** Lamb. [[spoiler: the fact that he was once the feared Bloody Nine and the utter ''hell'' he went through in ''TheFirstLaw'' alone.
** Shy. The reader quickly learns that she had a past as a outlaw, but left it behind her. We don't find out until much later that [[spoiler: it's because another woman was mis-identified as her outlaw persona and hanged in Shy's place]].