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* Warhammer lore implies this is because the climate is shifting away from what dragons find comfortable, or rather it's becoming ''too'' comfortable - Warmth lulls them to sleep and they're only really active in the cold. When the Old Ones arrived they made the world warmer to accommodate the races they created, and as the world warms the dragons sleep.

With constant invasions and calamities befalling their home on a regular basis, the Dragons face the very real threat of being murdered in their sleep. Given how the Dragons in this setting are depicted as wise, intelligent, and aware, it seems unlikely that they would voluntarily leave themselves so vulnerable. Is it a natural part of their lifecycle, or is some outside factor forcing them into a stupor?

*** Still, are they even trying to reverse engineer what they do have, or would that be blasphemy? What is their current technological level without the hand-me-downs?

The Tomb Kings are viewed as a neutral force in both the Total War series and the Table Top game that preceded it. Individual mortals and kingdoms have had dealings and courteous relations with them in the past, and so long as they do nothing to provoke them, are allowed to live in peace. The issue is that their king of kings, Settra, is an unapologetic tyrant with a legendary thirst for conquest that put Alexander the great to shame. He's constantly extolling his (admittedly justified) reputation as an accomplished conqueror and competent ruler, and can't stand the thought of playing second fiddle to anyone. He should have been knocking on the gates of Altdorf within a few years of awakening, yet he and his fellow Tomb kings are content to just while away their time in the desert until some outside force (i.e. the black pyramid's awakening or the chaos invasion) prompts them into action. What happened to Settra's ambition to make him so passive?

** Basically all of the advanced artefacts the Lizardmen have access to were created by the Old Ones, an ancient race of godlike beings who basically molded the Warhammer world into it's current state and created most of the races. Or at least the current form of the races at any rate. The Slann and the Lizardmen were created as their primary servants, which is why they have the majority of what remains of the Old One's artefacts at their disposal. The Old Ones themselves were either destroyed or were driven away from the Warhammer world during the first great Chaos incursion. What exactly happened to them isn't clear, but the point is they aren't around any more. So no, the Lizardmen didn't create the technology that they use, and even the Slann don't understand it completely.

Lustria sports some truely astonishing temple cities and artifacts, some of which boarders on ClarksThirdLaw . Did they create any of that themselves or are they facing a similar situation as the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40,000? [[note]] wherein all forms of innovation or experimentation are strictly forbidden, the knowledge of how to creat, operate, and maintain advanced technology is slowly being lost, and the only ones with a clue of how it functions are a cult of uncooperative zealots (Slann / Adaptus Mechanicus)[[/note]]

Lustria sports some truely astonishing temple cities and artifacts, some of which boarders on ClarksThirdLaw . Did they create any of that themselves or are they facing a similar situation as the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40,000 [[note]] wherein all forms of innovation or experimentation are strictly forbidden, the knowledge of how to creat, operate, and maintain advanced technology is slowly being lost, and the only ones with a clue of how it functions are a cult of uncooperative zealots (Slann / Adaptus Mechanicus)[[/note]]?

Lustria sports some truely astonishing temple cities and artifacts, some of which boarders on ClarksThirdLaw . Did they create any of that themselves or are they facing a similar situation as the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40,000 [[note: All forms of innovation or experimentation are strictly forbidden, the knowledge of how to creat, operate, and maintain advanced technology is slowly being lost, and the only ones with a clue of how it functions are a cult of uncooperative zealots (Slann / Adaptus Mechanicus)[[/note]]?

[[WMG: If Settra is so ambitious,
why is he so benign?]]

The Tomb Kings are viewed as a neutral force in both the Total War series and the Table Top game that preceded it. Individual mortals and kingdoms have had dealings and courteous relations with them in the past, and so long as they do nothing to provoke them, are allowed to live in peace. The issue is that their king of kings, Settra, is an unapologetic tyrant with a legendary thirst for conquest that put Alexander the great to shame. He's constantly extolling his (admittedly justified) reputation as an accomplished conqueror and competent ruler, and can't stand the thought of playing second fiddle to anyone. He should have been knocking on the gates of Altdorf within a few years of awakening, yet he and his fellow Tomb kings are content to just while away their time in the desert until some outside force (i.e. the black pyramid's awakening or the chaos invasion) prompts them into action. What happened to Settra's ambition to make him so benign?

Lustria sports some truely astonishing temple cities and artifacts, some of which boarders on ClarksThirdLaw . Did they come up with any of that themselves or are they facing a similar situation as the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40'000 (all forms of innovation or experimentation strictly repressed, and the knowledge of how to creat, operate, and maintain said technology slowly being lost)?

The Tomb Kings are viewed as a neutral force in both the Total War series and the Table Top game that preceded it. Individual mortals and kingdoms have had dealings and courteous relations with them in the past, and so long as they do nothing to provoke them, are allowed to live in peace.
The issue is that their king of kings, Settra, is an unapologetic tyrant with a legendary thirst for conquest that put Alexander the great to shame. He's constantly extolling his (admittedly justified) reputation as an accomplished conqueror and competent ruler, and can't stand the thought of playing second fiddle to anyone. He should have been knocking on the gates of Altdorf within a few years of awakening, yet he and his fellow Tomb kings are content to just while away their time in the desert until some outside force (i.e. the black pyramid's awakening or the chaos invasion) prompts them into action. What happened to Settra's ambition to make him so benign?

* The Tomb Kings are viewed as a neutral force in both the Total War series and the Table Top game that preceded it. Individual mortals and kingdoms have had dealings and courteous relations with them in the past, and so long as they do nothing to provoke them, are allowed to live in peace.

The issue is that their king of kings, Settra, is an unapologetic tyrant with a legendary thirst for conquest that put Alexander the great to shame. He's constantly extolling his (admittedly justified) reputation as an accomplished conqueror and competent ruler, and can't stand the thought of playing second fiddle to anyone. He should have been knocking on the gates of Altdorf within a few years of awakening, yet he and his fellow Tomb kings are content to just while away their time in the desert until some outside force (i.e. the black pyramid's awakening or the chaos invasion) prompts them into action. What happened to Settra's ambition to make him so benign?

** In the lore Araby attacked and conquered Estalia, which triggered a Bretonnian crusade in retaliation. Bretonnia kicked Araby out of Estalia and all the way back to, well, Araby, then pounded on them until they killed the people responsible. In the patchwork timeline the game is taking place in, the Great Crusade is still underway, just with a new target (the Tomb Kings) and Bretonnia simply never left, so Araby hasn't had any opportunity to reassert their independence.

* Ask any casual Warhammer fan if it's very unusual for Araby to be only MENTIONED in this game and not appear as a Minor Faction and they will give you a resounding yes: They would find it very suspicious that the Crusading Errantries of Bretonnia, originally created to put a stop to raids from Arabyan pirates, are now given a total rewriting of their lore to have them serve as Crusaders against the necromancy of the Tomb Kings and... the Strygos Empire? Wait, why is the Strygos Empire in Araby and not the badlands, their original region? They were completely destroyed by the orcs and the surviving remnants, the Strigany, fled north into Tilea and Sylvania, not south-west through Nehekhara.

* Ask any casual Warhammer fan if it's very unusual for Araby to be only MENTIONED in this game and not appear as a Minor Faction and they will give you a resounding yes: They would find it very suspicious that the Crusading Errantries of Bretonnia, originally created to put a stop to raids from Arabyan pirates, are now given a total rewriting of their lore to have them serve as Crusaders against the necromancy of the Tomb Kings and... the Strygos Empire? Wait, why is the Strygos Empire in Araby? They were completely destroyed by the orcs and fled north into Tilea and The Empire, not south-west through Nehekhara.

* Ask any casual Warhammer fan if it's very unusual for Araby to be only MENTIONED in this game and not appear as a Minor Faction and they will give you a resounding yes: They would find it very suspicious that the Crusading Errantries of Brettonia, originally created to put a stop to raids from Arabyan pirates, are now given a total rewriting of their lore to have them serve as Crusaders against the necromancy of the Tomb Kings and... the Strygos Empire? Wait, why is the Strygos Empire in Araby? They were completely destroyed by the orcs and fled north into Tilea and The Empire, not south-west through Nehekhara.

* Ask any casual Warhammer fan if it's very unusual for Araby to be only MENTIONED in this game and not appear as a Minor Faction and they will give you a resounding yes. It's very suspicious that the Crusading Errantries of Brettonia, originally created to put a stop to raids from Arabyan pirates, are now given a total rewriting of their lore to have them serve as Crusaders against the necromancy of the Tomb Kings and... the Strygos Empire? Wait, why is the Strygos Empire in Araby? They were completely destroyed by the orcs and fled north into Tilea and The Empire, not south-west through Nehekhara.

** It's worth noting that there's Chaos and then there's Chaos. All magic is ultimately of Chaos but not all magic comes from malevolent Chaos entities like the big four. So while spellcasters do take terrible risks you can be a spellcaster your whole life and never become corrupted.

** It's worth noting that there's Chaos and then there's Chaos. All magic is ultimately of Chaos but not all magic comes from malevolent Chaos entities like the big four. So while spellcasters do take terrible risks you can be a spellcaster you're whole life and never become corrupted.

** Yes, all magic is the stuff of chaos. When the Old Ones first arrived and taught the Slann, using magic was a more controlled, orderly process; but chaos is gonna chaos and so the gates collapsed and it all went to hell. The spellcasters of the "good" races bend the winds to their will to enact the change they want, and this is described as essentially mentally battering the forces of chaos into submission. Naturally, in the process they risk life, limb and soul and hungry daemons are waiting for the slightest slip in judgement, but if it works the power is so sweet... The fact that is foolhardy at best and perhaps catastrophically and inherently short-sighted at worst is often brought up by the fluff, and in the tabletop rules "miscasts" were not uncommon and could be disastruous. There's a very good reason the Imperial College of Mages is relatively recent and sorcery was totally forbidden until Teclis founded them.

* The winds of magic are supposedly pure chaos energy seeping into the material world (the whole point of the Vortex is to funnel excess magic back into the warp before it destroys the world). Wouldn't that make ''every'' spellcaster a chaos sorcerer? How do Human, Elven, and Lizardmen mages avoid corruption?

** If neither of those possibilities satisfy you, then alternatively '''a)''' they ''are'' trying to spill the beans but the other lords are running interference, or '''b)''' they're already dead (it's rare to find a Skaven that isn't an assassin to some degree). Yes, they wouldn't have gained or held their position for very long if they were easy targets, but the bulk of their forces are abroad, every other clan would be lining up to take shots at, and only one attempt needs to be successful.

** If neither of those possibilities are sufficient, then alternatively '''a)''' they ''are'' trying to spill the beans but the other lords are running interference, or '''b)''' they're already dead (it's rare to find a Skaven that isn't an assassin to some degree).

*** Skaven will fight viciously when they have no choice, if the ritual goes off as the Council planned both Gnawdwell and Nurglitch are getting their souls ripped out and devoured with the rest of their clans. They have nothing to lose.