History Headscratchers / TheInventionOfLying

*** Given that man was well dressed and clean shaven, I assumed he was just a normal worker going through this world's equivalent of a bad work day where a bunch of nihilistic thoughts become easy to accept as true.

* I'm sure it's unintended by the director, but: the image of the "Man in the Sky Church" is of the prophet who brought the commandments to people, not God sacrificing Himself to redeem humanity's sins. Moses, not Jesus. Which makes the Church Judaism, not Christianity. In our world, Hitler claimed that "the Jew invented the lie"...
** [[UnfortunateImplications Are you saying]] [[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad that an atheist can't make fun of the origins of Judiasm just as much as those of Christianity?]]
** There are plenty of other religions that involve prophets receiving messages from their gods, and no real reason to jump to that specific Hitler quote.
*** GodwinsLaw?
** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Yeshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use houses of worship or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.

* Ricky Gervais' character is literally the Father of Lies (ie., Satan) in this movie. I wonder if that ever occurred to Gervais himself.

* In a world where no one had lied until the twenty-first century, and there had (also depending on your view of religion) never been religion of any kind, the ButterflyEffect would have made things radically, radically different. None of the film's creators bothered to deal with the AlternateReality possibilities.
** As an above entry says, it appears the creators just wanted "Today + No Lying", and did just that. While, yes, FridgeLogic suggests the world would be ''radically'' different, the whole purpose of the film was not to explore an AlternateReality, but just... no lying, as life exists today. Not having a go at you in general sorry, but one downside I've seen of being a Troper is that there comes a time, or a movie, that you just have to sit back and accept the premise as-is, and our superwired brains tend to not want to accept that as standard ;)

* Ricky's Gervais' character is literally the Father of Lies (ie., Satan) in this movie. I wonder if that ever occurred to Gervais himself.
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** For me that scene pointed out a direction the movie could have taken regarding lying. The fact Mark's rival relayed "fat faggot" as the less offense "overweight homosexual", showed people's ability to be honest but in a less brutal fashion. His rival and secretary are both jerkasses so it makes sense they're brutally honest and don't mix words, especially because they hate Mark. Whereas later everyone is being a complete jerkass apparently because telling the truth means being as insulting as possible. As for the bank teller not giving a simple "are you sure?" in a world where people can still forget or misremember you've pointed out something a lot of people should have asked ''before'' they accepted his lies.

*** No, there isn't. Not really. Imagination is thinking things which are not true, and if you can think those things, you can conceive of saying them. In order of people to not be able to lie (and for it not to make any ''less'' sense than it already does), they must be unable to think untrue things. This also explains why they are so unabashedly ''honest'', they can't imagine causing other people to not know things.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Ieshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use churches or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.

** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [=Strawman=] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [=StrawMan=] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating StrawMan atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

** Probably just less channels.

* Are there no insane people in this world? If everyone was so gullible that they'd believe anything anyone told them, despite all evidence to the contrary, you'd think schizophrenia would be a dangerous memetic disorder here.