History Headscratchers / TheForceUnleashed

*** Hm, I guess without the context of the book it would be hard to catch (I read the book before I played the game). From what I've heard from the creative team post-release, I think we were lucky we got a finished game in the end at all so I try not to be too hard on the game. It's still a good story though and the novel is a pretty good read.

*** She wasn't Darth Vader however and she wasn't the one to turn the planet darksside, that was Starkiller's fault for killing Shaak Ti who kept the planet lightside. The point the book was making with him letting her go was that Maris really wasn't like Darth Vader at all, she may have said she turned darkside (it was mostly for survival) but she really didn't have the guts to go the full 9 yards to do what that means and that was what Galen sensed. He thought she still had hope to turn back.

*** Hm, I guess without the context of the book it would be hard to catch (I read the book before I played the game). From what I've heard from the creative team post-release, I think we were lucky we got a finished game in the end at all so I try not to be too hard on the game. It's still a good story though.

*** Hm, I guess without the context of the book it would be hard to catch (I read the book before I played the game). From what I've heard from the creative team post-release, I think we were lucky we got a finished game in the end at all. It's still a good story though.

*** Actually, no. I just checked out a video on youtube of that section, to make sure, and the Star Destroyer in the game isn't even attached to the space station. The cannon shot destroys the shipyard, and off to the left from ''way'' behind it comes a Star Destroyer. It flies down to the planet and the whole "pull down an SD" minigame starts; the cutscene makes it clear that the SD was coming (probably from hyperspace) to deal with the situation that had gotten out of hand. Like I said, I can accept him guiding the crash away from him, but the game doesn't reflect that in any way. Well, it wouldn't be the first time that a novelization made more sense than the source material; that's basically my big problem. From your counters, it sounds like the novelization pulled the story off much better. But the game was the big seller that was given most of the attention. It should have been done properly so that people didn't ''need'' to read the book to make sense of it.

*** I think the game supports it. In the game, they'd just destroyed the ship building platform and it shows one of the docked Destroyers knocked off and gliding toward earth. It's not spelled out and they probably could have done a better job with it (as they really should have done with that whole sequence), but it can be guessed.

*** I think the game supports it. In the game, they'd just destroyed the ship building platform and it shows one of the docked Destroyers knocked off and gliding toward earth. It's not spelled out and they probably could have done a better job with it (as they really should have done with that whole sequence), but it can be guessed and the novel fills in the gaps about why the ship doesn't just shoot at Galen from orbit.

*** She wasn't Darth Vader however and she wasn't the one to turn the planet DarksSide, that was Starkiller's fault for killing Shaak Ti who kept the planet LightSide. The point the book was making with him letting her go was that Maris really wasn't like Darth Vader at all, she may have said she turned darkside (it was mostly for survival) but she really didn't have the guts to go the full 9 yards to do what that means and that was what Galen sensed. He thought she still had hope to turn back.

*** I can accept that a little more--guiding it's crash instead of yanking it out of the air. However, the novel may have explained that the Star Destroyer wasn't finished yet and was crashing into the planet after the shipyard was destroyed, but the game certainly didn't. In the game, it glides down to the planet and a (ridiculously hard) minigame ensues where you actually pull the SD down. Books should support movies or games that they're based off of, and provide more information and fill in blanks, but the original shouldn't be on crutches without the novelization.

** She hadn't done anything to warrant a death sentence at that point and what was she going do if he let her go? She was stuck on the planet without a ship and she couldn't snitch on him to the Empire since that might get her killed with her Force-sensitive nature and associations with Jedi. The reason he let her go are a lot more prominent in the novel. It flashes through Starkiller's head about how she's really just a kid and she's as clueless about the world has he is. Letting her go said that there was [[ShadowArchetype just as much hope for him as there was for her]].

** Watch closely, he didn't in fact pull a Star Destroyer out of orbit but the ship was already falling to earth and all he did was bring it down a little early to stop it from landing on him. In the book, he lost consciousness from the effort.

** Enough said.

* Galen pulling a Star Destroyer out of the sky. Seen by some as a CrowningMomentOfAwesome, seen by me a Dethroning Moment of {{Narm}}. I know that Yoda said size doesn't matter, but if that was really true, the Clone Wars would have been a cakewalk. Every space battle would have just consisted of a few Jedi flying under heavy escort around the various Separatist capital ships and ripping them apart with the Force. And yeah, I get it, Galen's supposed to be one of the most powerful Force users ever, but the entire Skywalker line was supposed to be right at the top, and none of them could pull off anything even remotely close to that.

Enough said.

!!Full of problems!!

* Like many trailers, its not actually part of the story. Its just suppose to give you the feel of the game and is strictly guided by the RuleOfCool.

*** The Emperor was planning to '''publicly''' execute three well known and well liked Senators ''before'' they escaped. And it wouldn't be the first time. The whole reason a rebellion is being started is because the Empire frequently and unabashedly commits well-publicized atrocities.

*** I always thought Canon had said that Vader would electrocute his robotic limbs if he used force lightning through them. Maybe Vader taught Starkiller by taking of a robot limb and using force lightning through the stump.

!!Where did Starkiller get those two lightsabers he uses in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS8OsKILj1I E3 trailer]]?

*** Thank you, I now picture that Vader once ordered Starkiller to spread his fingers and scream "UNLIMITED POOOOOWWWAAAAAAAAHHHRRR!!!".

** Canon has also established (mostly in other video games) that any sufficiently evil Force-user can use Force Lightning. Even if Vader wasn't able to pull it off himself, he could know enough about it, either from Sith holocrons or by doing it himself off-screen before his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, to instruct his apprentice. Not to mention that, if a Sith absolutely requires an instructor, it creates an odd chicken-and-egg-style paradox as to how the first Sith figured all this stuff out (since as Palpatine so quotably puts it, he could not have learned it from a Jedi).

** Canon has also established (mostly in other video games) that any sufficiently evil Force-user can use Force Lightning. Even if Vader wasn't able to pull it off himself, he could know enough about it, either from Sith holocrons or by doing it himself off-screen before his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, to instruct his apprentice. Not to mention that, if a Force-user absolutely requires an instructor, it creates an odd chicken-and-egg-style paradox as to how the first Force-user figured this stuff out.

** Canon has also established (mostly in other video games) that any sufficiently evil Force-user can use Force Lightning. Even if Vader wasn't able to pull it off himself, he could know enough about it, either from Sith holocrons or by doing it himself off-screen before his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, to instruct his apprentice. Not to mention that, if a Force-user absolutely requires an instructor, it creates an odd chicken-and-egg-style paradox as to how the first Jedi figured this stuff out.

** Canon has also established (mostly in other video games) that any sufficiently evil Force-user can use Force Lightning. Even if Vader wasn't able to pull it off himself, he could know enough about it, either from Sith holocrons or by doing it himself off-screen before his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, to instruct his apprentice.

** Canon has also established (mostly in other video games) that any sufficiently evil Force-user can use Force Lightning. Even if Vader wasn't able to pull it off himself, he could know enough about it, either from Sith holocrons or doing it himself off-screen before his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, to instruct his apprentice.

** Canon has also established (mostly other video games) that any sufficiently evil Force-user can use Force Lightning. Even if Vader wasn't able to pull it off himself, he could know enough about it, either from Sith holocrons or doing it himself off-screen before his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan, to instruct his apprentice.

* It has been established by canon that Darth Vader is physically incapable of using it due to the lack of organic limbs. Moreover, the only one who could use said power at that point was the Emperor, whom Starkiller had never met before.

* You can just go a few steps to the hole and jump straight in it, if you don´t like this practice of your awesome powerlevel.

** As for Obi-Wan, it's possible that isolating himself on Tatooine entailed cutting off contact with everyone, making R2's mission in Episode IV that much more significant.