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!!Them ain't "saints", Chase




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***He could have tried to rationalize the abuse. It's a coping mechanism.

!!Wrong Assumptions?



!!Killing the wrong dude?



!!That's not how Cyborgs work



!!Quick recovery?



!!Touching the staff?



!!More about the staff



!!Pronunciation of "Karolina"



!!Shouldn't they have siblings?



!!Nico's sentencing of the Yorkes



!!Isn't Klara a mutant



!!Expendable child? (That's harsh)



!!Hol' up, something's not right?



!!What's gotten into them?



!!Aren't there other villains?



!!Even more on the Staff of One



!!WhyDontYouJustShootHim



!!How will they be when they grow up?




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***They might turn into heroes for all we know, after all, it's only ''specific'' adults they don't trust.

!!Everything about Nico.



!!This dude



!!The Crossovers




!!That Plot won't work Xavin




!!FailedASpotCheck



!!More about Mutants (or potential mutants)



!!Soldiers are useless



!!Nico's surname



!!What cult is the Gibborim running?



!!They got money for drugs somehow?



!!Why didn't Karol just get custody?




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**She might not have been considered old enough.
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* Now, I've only just started the series but why is it that as soon as the kids discover the Pride they immediately assume that their parents want to kill them. Granted, the Pride are supervillains, but from what I've seen, most of them are decent parents and want what's best for their children. Is it just teen angst turned UpToEleven or what? It bothers me that they never give their parents a chance to explain themselves either.

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* Now, I've only just started the series but why is it that as soon as the kids discover the Pride they immediately assume that their parents want to kill them. Granted, the Pride are supervillains, but from what I've seen, most of them are decent parents and want what's best for their children. Is it just teen angst turned UpToEleven up to eleven or what? It bothers me that they never give their parents a chance to explain themselves either.
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** By the time the Runaways came back from New York, California had lost its Initiative team, ComicBook/TheOrder, and Secret Invasion had hobbled SHIELD to the point that they probably couldn't spare a team to keep track of a bunch of kids. Plus, the Runaways relocated to Malibu rather than going directly back to Los Angeles.

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** By the time the Runaways came back from New York, California had lost its Initiative team, ComicBook/TheOrder, ComicBook/{{The Order|2007}}, and Secret Invasion had hobbled SHIELD to the point that they probably couldn't spare a team to keep track of a bunch of kids. Plus, the Runaways relocated to Malibu rather than going directly back to Los Angeles.
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* At the end of "Live Fast" worn out from their fight with the Gibborium (Molly was asleep, Victor not at full power after BSOD-ing, Karolina out of charge and Xavin not in full control over his powers) they got confronted by ComicBook/IronMan and SHEILD agents for not registering with the SHRA. When the book picks up again they are in New York talking to the Kingpin. How did they get past Iron Man?

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* At the end of "Live Fast" worn out from their fight with the Gibborium (Molly was asleep, Victor not at full power after BSOD-ing, Karolina out of charge and Xavin not in full control over his powers) they got confronted by ComicBook/IronMan and SHEILD SHIELD agents for not registering with the SHRA. When the book picks up again they are in New York talking to the Kingpin. How did they get past Iron Man?
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*** They explicitly agreed he was an innocent but said that being a willing sacrifice would remove him from the category.



*** [[spoiler:The Yorks, the Steins, the Minorus, and (it's implied) the Wilders and the Hayes are all fine with having children (the Hayes only protest that they just might not be able to conceive). Mrs. Wilder explains the benefit of them all going along with the plan as a way to ensure that all of their legacies are passed on. In other words, the kids will be ambassadors of their parents, rather than risking that entire couples in the Pride are left out of Paradise. That's probably why the Deans went along with it - to make sure that their service to the Gibborim wouldn't be forgotten.]]

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*** [[spoiler:The Yorks, Yorkes, the Steins, the Minorus, and (it's implied) the Wilders and the Hayes are all fine with having children (the Hayes only protest that they just might not be able to conceive). Mrs. Wilder explains the benefit of them all going along with the plan as a way to ensure that all of their legacies are passed on. In other words, the kids will be ambassadors of their parents, rather than risking that entire couples in the Pride are left out of Paradise. That's probably why the Deans went along with it - to make sure that their service to the Gibborim wouldn't be forgotten.]]




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** I thought it was explicitly stated that as a group, The Pride wouldn’t be able to stand up to some of the A-list supervillains, but would be able to waste enough time or resources to make it more trouble than it’s worth to try to set up a base on the West Coast.

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* Exactly how were the Runaways able to just waltz back into LA after the whole 1907 incident? As far as we all know, the Civil War is still going on (I believe it's 2006 by their timeline). What's to stop Iron Man and the cape killers from coming back to arrest them? Even if Civil War has ended, woundn't that mean the 50 State Initiative has been set up? Shouldn't there be a registered team patrolling LA or did I miss an issue?

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* Exactly how were the Runaways able to just waltz back into LA after the whole 1907 incident? As far as we all know, the Civil War is still going on (I believe it's 2006 by their timeline). What's to stop Iron Man and the cape killers from coming back to arrest them? Even if Civil War has ended, woundn't wouldn't that mean the 50 State Initiative has been set up? Shouldn't there be a registered team patrolling LA or did I miss an issue?issue?
** By the time the Runaways came back from New York, California had lost its Initiative team, ComicBook/TheOrder, and Secret Invasion had hobbled SHIELD to the point that they probably couldn't spare a team to keep track of a bunch of kids. Plus, the Runaways relocated to Malibu rather than going directly back to Los Angeles.



** Going off of Homecoming,it seems that they seem to become jerks and die(?) after 18.which I guess is one way to handle that problem. as for why only Victor reacts poorly to attacking Spiderman,lets remember he was designed as a major fan boy and hasn't yet expierienced the less favorable adult supers that the rest have.

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** Going off of Homecoming,it Homecoming, it seems that they seem to become jerks and die(?) after 18.18, which I guess is one way to handle that problem. as for why only Victor reacts poorly to attacking Spiderman,lets remember he was designed as a major fan boy and hasn't yet expierienced the less favorable adult supers that the rest have.



* The fact that Brian K. Vaughan [[spoiler: killed off Gert]] bugs me more than any other event in fictional history, and not just because she's my favorite character. (MASSIVE SPOILERS ahead for anyone who hasn't finished the second volume.) From a narrative standpoint, Gert should have been the ''last'' character he considered killing off. At the beginning of Volume Two, we find out that Gert is going to be leading the Avengers in twenty years. Gertrude Yorkes, who calls superheroes "super-fascists," who has no powers and no combat training, who calls Nico a dope for thinking that she could ever lead their little band of runaways, grows up to lead the most famous superhero team in the world. That is an absolutely fascinating turn of events. What makes Gert change her mind about superheroes? How does she end up joining the Avengers? What talents does she discover in the next twenty years that make her a candidate to lead them? We'll never know, because Vaughan killed her off. I know everyone complains about how comic book characters never stay dead, but I think someone should resurrect Gert just so that they can do this storyline justice.

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* The fact that Brian K. Vaughan [[spoiler: killed [[spoiler:killed off Gert]] bugs me more than any other event in fictional history, and not just because she's my favorite character. (MASSIVE SPOILERS ahead for anyone who hasn't finished the second volume.) From a narrative standpoint, Gert should have been the ''last'' character he considered killing off. At the beginning of Volume Two, we find out that Gert is going to be leading the Avengers in twenty years. Gertrude Yorkes, who calls superheroes "super-fascists," who has no powers and no combat training, who calls Nico a dope for thinking that she could ever lead their little band of runaways, grows up to lead the most famous superhero team in the world. That is an absolutely fascinating turn of events. What makes Gert change her mind about superheroes? How does she end up joining the Avengers? What talents does she discover in the next twenty years that make her a candidate to lead them? We'll never know, because Vaughan killed her off. I know everyone complains about how comic book characters never stay dead, but I think someone should resurrect Gert just so that they can do this storyline justice.



Plus, if you've read Vaughn's other works you'll notice the man has an obsession with having Glasses wearing people die. ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' has that bespectacled Amazon leader get killed, ''ComicBook/ExMachina'' has a kid with glasses shoot himself, that one ''ComicBook/TomStrong'' story he did, has a bespectacled villainess jump out a window and die.

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Plus, if you've read Vaughn's Vaughan's other works you'll notice the man has an obsession with having Glasses wearing people die. ''ComicBook/YTheLastMan'' has that bespectacled Amazon leader get killed, ''ComicBook/ExMachina'' has a kid with glasses shoot himself, that one ''ComicBook/TomStrong'' story he did, has a bespectacled villainess jump out a window and die.







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*** Considering that she was shown to be caring for Molly and Klara during ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'' and that she only left the team ''after'' Klara and Molly were gone, it stands to reason that she tried to care for them in Nico's absence.


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** It might be that Carol and Medusa didn't make the connection between Nico and Victor. Assuming that Nico told them very little about her old team, they might not have known that Victor was a member.
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** Other question when we mention them being given their powers, are we talking just normal Marvel universe way or are we talking Strucker level giving them an artificial x-gene?
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** So ends up we weren't far off comparing them to the Struckers except they are the foster version.
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** That is a contradiction in terms. If the agreement with Pym and Tigra was not legally binding in the first place, then why would Social Services care about Nico leaving?

Sounds more like Karolina being selfish and irresponsible. Are there any indications at all that she tried to step up?

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** That is a contradiction in terms. If the agreement with Pym and Tigra was not legally binding in the first place, then why would Social Services care about Nico leaving?

leaving? Sounds more like Karolina being selfish and irresponsible. Are there any indications at all that she tried to step up?up?

* How did the Runaways not know about Victor's death? In Vision, Victor was being held at a normal public courthouse, and when Vision came for him, there were over twenty other superheroes that tried to fight off Vision. This sounds like a very public event, or at the very least something that would be well known in the superhero community. Even Carol Danvers and Medusa were there, and they were on A-Force with Nico at about the same time! What was preventing either of them telling Nico "oh hey, the Mexican android you used to be friends with got his heart ripped out".
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** That is a contradiction in terms. If the agreement with Pym and Tigra was not legally binding in the first place, then why would Social Services care about Nico leaving?

Sounds more like Karolina being selfish and irresponsible. Are there any indications at all that she tried to step up?

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** Well, two options [resent themselves: Either they wanted to goad the Pride into exceeding expectations (see who kill the most when Paradise is on the line) or the Gibborim were lying and never planned to take ''anyone'' with them in the end.

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** Well, two options [resent present themselves: Either they wanted to goad the Pride into exceeding expectations (see who kill the most when Paradise is on the line) or the Gibborim were lying and never planned to take ''anyone'' with them in the end.


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* Why couldn't Karolina take over as guardian of Klara and Molly?
** The simplest explanation is that the deal that the Runaways struck with Hank Pym and Tigra was not legally binding and was contingent upon the team remaining more or less intact, and thus, when Nico went away, the deal was automatically rendered null and void, regardless of whether or not one of the other Runaways chose to step up and take responsibility.
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** Everything has now been answered they are foster siblings who were raised together and [[spoiler:Are not real mutants having obtained their powers by being experimented on by Alice’s mother.]]
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** That might also explain the safehouse Nico had.
** G. Willow Wilson must have a fetish for having non-white teenage girls travel alone on planes to visit distant relatives in their country of origin, because it happens with Kamala Khan too.
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** Nico gets the staff, cries "Money!", and problem solved. Or at least, [[IntimidatingRevenueService until the IRS discovers that]].
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** They are not the first teenagers in the world with that mindset. There are two main options: 1) they simply grow up and mature, 2) they don't grow up, become anarchists, and keep the same mindset but replacing "adults" with "the system" (or choose some other radical ideology), or 3) some of them go for 1) and others for 2)
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** As for Dr. Doom, why would he waste his time taking over a city without Reed Richards in it?
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** A-force clearly shows Nico onboard an airplane.
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*** Oh, and were planning on destroying them all for [[spoiler: letting Gert die]]. At that point, either you delete memories or you make them unable to act on the future information, and either way, however necessary, is still going to hurt them.




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** More because most of the A-list villains insist on "worthy opponents", There's just no glory in defeating some hero nobody's ever heard of, and all of the most famous ones are in New York.




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** As the Oz books once said of a similar book, it's not going to tell you everything. The book is going to tell you the most relevant content, in an author-appropriate level of detail, and that's it. Heck, it wouldn't be shocking if that section stopped at, "... and perform the rite in this manner for as long as you live."




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*** Well, these are the leftovers. Remember, the rest of the Majesdane died with the planet, including their top troops.




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** Well, two options [resent themselves: Either they wanted to goad the Pride into exceeding expectations (see who kill the most when Paradise is on the line) or the Gibborim were lying and never planned to take ''anyone'' with them in the end.

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* Okay, this has been driving me crazy...in many stories its said that the Runaways are low on money. So how the heck did they afford the fantastic drug addiction that Victor had, ie, with a metal that's as rare as Vibranium!? To a lesser extent, how did Nico afford the plane ticket to Japan, in A-force: Hypertime? I can't imagine the douche looking relatives helped pay for it.

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* Okay, this has been driving me crazy... in many stories its it's said that the Runaways are low on money. So how the heck did they afford the fantastic drug addiction that Victor had, ie, i.e. with a metal that's as rare as Vibranium!? To a lesser extent, how did Nico afford the plane ticket to Japan, in A-force: A-Force: Hypertime? I can't imagine the douche looking relatives helped pay for it.it.
** From what I could gather from ''The Vision'', the Vibranium was apparently just laying around, and Chase, being Chase, didn't realize how valuable it actually was and thus let Victor use it, and the supply that they had lasted up until around ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion''. Of course, how his parents ever got their hands on Vibranium in the first place is still unexplained. As for Nico's trip to Japan, it's possible she just flew there under her own power or teleported or conjured up some manner of transportation.
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* Okay, this has been driving me crazy...in many stories its said that the Runaways are low on money. So how the heck did they afford the fantastic drug addiction that Victor had, ie, with a metal that's as rare as Vibranium!? To a lesser extent, how did Nico afford the plane ticket to Japan, in A-force: Hypertime? I can't imagine the douche looking relatives helped pay for it.

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