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*** Rocky's past as a loan shark's enforcer got revealed and he suffered a severe blow to his popularity which prevented him from doing public appearances. Like in real life, it seemed this initial scandal didn't actually affect his long term popularity. After it blew over, Rocky probably didn't have any serious financial issues thereafter.
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** He pretty much has the same style of famous mexican boxer Julio Cesar Chavez who would go on to take horrible punishment only to land a hit or two of his own (which were beyond devastating), and he was EXTREMELY successful. Just watch his fight against Meldrick Taylor and you'll see the end results of trying to face someone head-on with that style.
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** He pretty much has the same style of famous mexican Mexican boxer Julio Cesar Chavez who would go on to take horrible punishment only to land a hit or two of his own (which were beyond devastating), and he was EXTREMELY successful. Just watch his fight against Meldrick Taylor and you'll see the end results of trying to face someone head-on with that style.
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** It's not explicitly stated that Rocky IV takes place right after Rocky III. It could take place several years later and Rocky could have been coming home from something else that the beginning.
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** It's not explicitly stated that Rocky IV takes place right after Rocky III. It could take place several years later and Rocky could have been coming home from something else that at the beginning.
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** It's not explicitly stated at Rocky IV takes place right after Rocky III. It could take place several years later and Rocky could have been coming home from something else that the beginning.
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** It's not explicitly stated at that Rocky IV takes place right after Rocky III. It could take place several years later and Rocky could have been coming home from something else that the beginning.
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** It's not explicitly stated at Rocky IV takes place right after Rocky III. It could take place several years later and Rocky could have been coming home from something else at the beginning.
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** It's not explicitly stated at Rocky IV takes place right after Rocky III. It could take place several years later and Rocky could have been coming home from something else at the beginning.
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* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?
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* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?boxing?
** In a clinch, you have to assume that you are free to hit the opponent and they are free to hit you unless/until the ref tells you to break. Some refs will give an order to break very quickly, but technically the rules are to encourage the fighters to work and continue fighting as long as their hands and arms aren't being constrained by the opponent. In a real match the clinch you mean (I'm assuming you're talking about the final round of the second match) might well prompt a referee to call a break and separate the fighters because one of Rocky's arms is pinned between Clubber's arm and body, but since the ref hasn't called for them to stop punching and break, both Rocky and Clubber are free to pound away.
** In a clinch, you have to assume that you are free to hit the opponent and they are free to hit you unless/until the ref tells you to break. Some refs will give an order to break very quickly, but technically the rules are to encourage the fighters to work and continue fighting as long as their hands and arms aren't being constrained by the opponent. In a real match the clinch you mean (I'm assuming you're talking about the final round of the second match) might well prompt a referee to call a break and separate the fighters because one of Rocky's arms is pinned between Clubber's arm and body, but since the ref hasn't called for them to stop punching and break, both Rocky and Clubber are free to pound away.
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** ''Rocky Balboa'' does reveal that he had raised enough capital to open a restaurant. Perhaps a few public appearances was how he got funding.
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** The idea in the original film was that Rocky was a washed-up palooka, who could barely even box and wouldn't stand a chance against Apollo. In fact, he readily admits to Adrian that he ''can't'' beat Apollo - his goal is to do exactly what he did, last the entire fight without getting knocked out. His only real strengths in the first film are his superhuman will and ability to absorb punishment. The fight in the original film isn't that close - Rocky is barely hanging on by a thread at the final bell. In the second film's intro, this fight was re-edited to make it look much closer, so that it would be feasible for Rocky to actually beat Apollo, which he did in the climax of Rocky II. In the third film, it's revealed that Micky has since been hand-picking opponents that he knows Rocky can beat with his limited abilities: when he steps out of this comfort zone and fights Clubber Lang, he gets utterly destroyed. After training from Apollo in the same film, Rocky learns some fancy footwork etc., and beats Lang in their rematch via the innovative gambit of ''actually getting out of the way of some of his punches''. This doesn't really seem to stick though: In Rocky IV, he's right back to getting punched in the face for most of the match and the only reason he doesn't lose is...Well, because he's Rocky. And Drago is TheBigBad. His fighting style remains pretty much the same in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa, except in Rocky Balboa, he's so far down the DentedIron path that all his training is based around strength work, no speed work at all.
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** The idea in the original film was that Rocky was a washed-up palooka, who could barely even box and wouldn't stand a chance against Apollo. In fact, he readily admits to Adrian that he ''can't'' beat Apollo - his goal is to do exactly what he did, last the entire fight without getting knocked out. His only real strengths in the first film are his superhuman will and ability to absorb punishment. The fight in the original film isn't that close - Rocky is barely hanging on by a thread at the final bell. In the second film's intro, this fight was re-edited to make it look much closer, so that it would be feasible for Rocky to actually beat Apollo, which he did in the climax of Rocky II. In the third film, it's revealed that Micky has since been hand-picking opponents that he knows Rocky can beat with his limited abilities: when he steps out of this comfort zone and fights Clubber Lang, he gets utterly destroyed. After training from Apollo in the same film, Rocky learns some fancy footwork etc., and beats Lang in their rematch via the innovative gambit of ''actually getting out of the way of some of his punches''. This doesn't really seem to stick though: In Rocky IV, he's right back to getting punched in the face for most of the match and the only reason he doesn't lose is...Well, because he's Rocky. And Drago is TheBigBad.the BigBad. His fighting style remains pretty much the same in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa, except in Rocky Balboa, he's so far down the DentedIron path that all his training is based around strength work, no speed work at all.
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** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.
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** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.figure.
* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?
* When Rocky was punching Clubber during a clinch, was that even legal? Don't get me wrong it's still awesome, but isn't something like that against the rules in professional boxing?
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*** Pretty sure that's exactly how it happened. I'm fairly sure Rocky III was supposed to be the last film, since there wasn't much else for Rocky to actually do by that point, so they put in his retirement to give the match extra gravitas. However, once they saw a chance to have Balboa ''single-handedly end the Cold War!!!'', they wrote Rocky IV and just retconned the retirement out of existence, much like his "career-ending" brain injury was ignored in later films.
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* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.
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* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.fortune.
** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.
** Judging by Rocky II, I always thought Rocky was quite uncomfortable with the media-circus aspects of the fight game. He'd probably prefer to just be a coach, where he doesn't really need to be in the public eye and can still be fairly hands-on with the sport he loves, rather than being a pop-culture figure.
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** The idea in the original film was that Rocky was a washed-up palooka, who could barely even box and wouldn't stand a chance against Apollo. In fact, he readily admits to Adrian that he ''can't'' beat Apollo - his goal is to do exactly what he did, last the entire fight without getting knocked out. His only real strengths in the first film are his superhuman will and ability to absorb punishment. The fight in the original film isn't that close - Rocky is barely hanging on by a thread at the final bell. In the second film's intro, this fight was re-edited to make it look much closer, so that it would be feasible for Rocky to actually beat Apollo, which he did in the climax of Rocky II. In the third film, it's revealed that Micky has since been hand-picking opponents that he knows Rocky can beat with his limited abilities: when he steps out of this comfort zone and fights Clubber Lang, he gets utterly destroyed. After training from Apollo in the same film, Rocky learns some fancy footwork etc., and beats Lang in their rematch via the innovative gambit of ''actually getting out of the way of some of his punches''. This doesn't really seem to stick though: In Rocky IV, he's right back to getting punched in the face for most of the match and the only reason he doesn't lose is...Well, because he's Rocky. And Drago is TheBigBad. His fighting style remains pretty much the same in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa, except in Rocky Balboa, he's so far down the DentedIron path that all his training is based around strength work, no speed work at all.
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** If I may, human head and facial hair grows at a rate of about six inches a year. Thickness of the hair affects how it looks as it grows, making some seem to grow beards faster than others.
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* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?
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* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?intelligence?
* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.
* Rocky V: I get that Rocky's accountant stole all his money and left him penniless and his injuries forced him to retire, but we are still talking about (in-universe) the most popular athlete in the world (and probably the most popular person alive). All he would need to do is make a couple appearances and autograph sessions and he should be well on his way to recouping his lost fortune.
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* Whats with the timeline? ''Rocky'' is mostly set in 1975, with the fight taking place on New Year's Day 1976. ''Rocky II'' is set throughout 1976 with the fight on Thanksgiving. ''Rocky III'' is said in dialog to take place three years after ''II'' but Mickey's grave says it's 1981, a five year gap ''Rocky II.'' ''Rocky IV'' appears to start directly after ''III'', with Rocky driving home from his sparring match with Apollo. But Adrian says Apollo had been retired for five years, which either backs up the date on Mickey's grave or means the movie is two years after ''III.'' Things are confused further when Rocky's license plate says it's 1985. Then immediately after ''IV'' ''Rocky V'' starts and Robert is suddenly a teenager, even though he could only be five years old maximum.
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* Whats with the timeline? ''Rocky'' is mostly set in 1975, with the fight taking place on New Year's Day 1976. ''Rocky II'' is set throughout 1976 with the fight on Thanksgiving. ''Rocky III'' is said in dialog to take place three years after ''II'' but Mickey's grave says it's 1981, a five year gap ''Rocky II.'' ''Rocky IV'' appears to start directly after ''III'', with Rocky driving home from his sparring match with Apollo. But Adrian says Apollo had been retired for five years, which either backs up the date on Mickey's grave or means the movie is two years after ''III.'' Things are confused further when Rocky's license plate says it's 1985. Then immediately after ''IV'' ''Rocky V'' starts and Robert is suddenly a teenager, even though he could only be five years old maximum.maximum.
* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?
* Remember Paulie's robot from ''Rocky IV'', which he got from Rocky as a birthday present? It was able to give coherent responses and could process what it saw. How exactly did Rocky's suppliers pull off this level of artificial intelligence?
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*** I know this is going out on a tangent and all, but I just have to say that Chavez has [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UjkvzfSYY extremely]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcXR3uriaY underrated]] defense. While he was fully capable of simply walking through punishment and sometimes did, it didn't become his full time style until after back injuries took away most of his mobility.
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*** I know this is going out on a tangent and all, but I just have to say that Chavez has [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UjkvzfSYY extremely]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcXR3uriaY underrated]] defense.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SMYpid7jdI defense]]. While he was fully capable of simply walking through punishment and sometimes did, it didn't become his full time style until after back injuries took away most of his mobility.
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** It could have been a reference to the ''Rumble in the Jungle'' (which was the primary inspiration for Rocky III), which featured speculation that it would be Ali's last fight. Of course, that didn't pan out and neither did Rocky's retirement
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** Depends on the person. Everyone's hair grows at different rates. It's possible it could have taken just a week to get that long.
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** Depends on the person. Everyone's hair grows at different rates. It's possible it could have taken just a week to get that long.long.
* Whats with the timeline? ''Rocky'' is mostly set in 1975, with the fight taking place on New Year's Day 1976. ''Rocky II'' is set throughout 1976 with the fight on Thanksgiving. ''Rocky III'' is said in dialog to take place three years after ''II'' but Mickey's grave says it's 1981, a five year gap ''Rocky II.'' ''Rocky IV'' appears to start directly after ''III'', with Rocky driving home from his sparring match with Apollo. But Adrian says Apollo had been retired for five years, which either backs up the date on Mickey's grave or means the movie is two years after ''III.'' Things are confused further when Rocky's license plate says it's 1985. Then immediately after ''IV'' ''Rocky V'' starts and Robert is suddenly a teenager, even though he could only be five years old maximum.
* Whats with the timeline? ''Rocky'' is mostly set in 1975, with the fight taking place on New Year's Day 1976. ''Rocky II'' is set throughout 1976 with the fight on Thanksgiving. ''Rocky III'' is said in dialog to take place three years after ''II'' but Mickey's grave says it's 1981, a five year gap ''Rocky II.'' ''Rocky IV'' appears to start directly after ''III'', with Rocky driving home from his sparring match with Apollo. But Adrian says Apollo had been retired for five years, which either backs up the date on Mickey's grave or means the movie is two years after ''III.'' Things are confused further when Rocky's license plate says it's 1985. Then immediately after ''IV'' ''Rocky V'' starts and Robert is suddenly a teenager, even though he could only be five years old maximum.
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*** I know this is going out on a tangent and all, but I just have to say that Chavez has [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UjkvzfSYY extremely]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcXR3uriaY underrated]] defense. While he was fully capable of simply walking through punishment and sometimes did, it didn't become his full time style until after back injuries took away most of his mobility.
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*** I know this is going out on a tangent and all, but I just have to say that Chavez has [[www.[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UjkvzfSYY extremely]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcXR3uriaY underrated]] defense. While he was fully capable of simply walking through punishment and sometimes did, it didn't become his full time style until after back injuries took away most of his mobility.
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*** I know this is going out on a tangent and all, but I just have to say that Chavez has [[www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4UjkvzfSYY extremely]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcXR3uriaY underrated]] defense. While he was fully capable of simply walking through punishment and sometimes did, it didn't become his full time style until after back injuries took away most of his mobility.
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** He pretty much has the same style of famous mexican boxer Julio Cesar Chavez who would go on to take horrible punishment only to land a hit or two of his own (which were beyond devastating), and he was EXTREMELY successful. Just watch his fight against Meldrick Taylor and you'll see the end results of trying to face someone head-on with that style.
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*** Not even that, there are guys who have found infinitely more success than Wepner ever did fighting like that and blocking punches with their faces.
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** I may be wrong, but the way I understood it, Rocky was still the champion as of the beginning of Rocky IV, though leaning heavily towards retirement. After Apollo's death, he accepts Drago's challenge to a match in Russia. This, however, is an unsanctioned exhibition match, and because Rocky chooses to compete in a bout unsanctioned by whichever promotion he is champion of ''(the promotion Rocky competes in is never mentioned on screen, though his championship belt, with the red, white, and blue cloth strap, is reminiscent of The Ring magazine's sponsored title belt)'', he is stripped of his title. Another possibility is that Rocky's boxing promotion chose to crown an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interim_championship interim champion]] in Union Cane, with the idea that he and Rocky would fight to unify the now-split heavyweight championship. However, when Rocky retires, plans for a big money title fight are flushed away and Cane becomes the sole heavyweight champion pretty much by default.
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* How long do you think it took Stallone to grow that sweet-ass beard during Rocky IV's training montage?
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** Depends on the person. Everyone's hair grows at different rates. It's possible it could have taken just a week to get that long.
** Depends on the person. Everyone's hair grows at different rates. It's possible it could have taken just a week to get that long.
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**Way I remember it was that Rocky retired after fighting Clubber and his belt went to whoever was the #1 contender, un-retired to fight Drago, and retired again. Then a few years later, Cane is the champ, but everyone criticizes him for not really fighting anyone good, so he gets pissed and challenges Rocky. Rocky couldn't do it, so he trains Tommy Gunn who fights him and wins, than Tommy becomes a dick, so Rocky beats his ass in a street fight.
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* How long do you think it took Stallone to grow that sweet-ass beard during Rocky IV's training montage.
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* During his rematch against Clubber Lang an announcer said that this was to be Rocky's last fight, regardless of the outcome. Then at the start of ''Rocky V'' he gets challenged for the Heavyweight Belt by Union Cane. Wasn't he retired by then, or did he just change his mind after the Clubber Lang rematch? When he did retire, who did his belt go to?
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* During his rematch against Clubber Lang an announcer said that this was to be Rocky's last fight, regardless of the outcome. Then at the start of ''Rocky V'' he gets challenged for the Heavyweight Belt by Union Cane. Wasn't he retired by then, or did he just change his mind after the Clubber Lang rematch? When he did retire, who did his belt go to?to?
*How long do you think it took Stallone to grow that sweet-ass beard during Rocky IV's training montage.
*How long do you think it took Stallone to grow that sweet-ass beard during Rocky IV's training montage.
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** Because heavily based on Chuck Wepner, who pretty much did use that tactic on Muhammad Ali.
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** Because heavily based on Chuck Wepner, who pretty much did use that tactic on Muhammad Ali.Ali.
* During his rematch against Clubber Lang an announcer said that this was to be Rocky's last fight, regardless of the outcome. Then at the start of ''Rocky V'' he gets challenged for the Heavyweight Belt by Union Cane. Wasn't he retired by then, or did he just change his mind after the Clubber Lang rematch? When he did retire, who did his belt go to?
* During his rematch against Clubber Lang an announcer said that this was to be Rocky's last fight, regardless of the outcome. Then at the start of ''Rocky V'' he gets challenged for the Heavyweight Belt by Union Cane. Wasn't he retired by then, or did he just change his mind after the Clubber Lang rematch? When he did retire, who did his belt go to?
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** Dramatic tension. It's the same reason Hulk Hogan always gets beat up before he makes the big comeback, and the evil sports team is always up on the scoreboard in the early part of the game.
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** Dramatic tension. It's the same reason Hulk Hogan always gets beat up before he makes the big comeback, and the evil sports team is always up on the scoreboard in the early part of the game.game.
** Because heavily based on Chuck Wepner, who pretty much did use that tactic on Muhammad Ali.
** Because heavily based on Chuck Wepner, who pretty much did use that tactic on Muhammad Ali.
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* What is up with Rocky's fighting style? This troper has only seen the first film, but he spends most of his fight against Apollo just getting punched in the face. A good chunk of the time, it doesn't look like he's even trying to avoid or block it.
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* What is up with Rocky's fighting style? This troper has only seen the first film, but he spends most of his fight against Apollo just getting punched in the face. A good chunk of the time, it doesn't look like he's even trying to avoid or block it.it.
** Dramatic tension. It's the same reason Hulk Hogan always gets beat up before he makes the big comeback, and the evil sports team is always up on the scoreboard in the early part of the game.
** Dramatic tension. It's the same reason Hulk Hogan always gets beat up before he makes the big comeback, and the evil sports team is always up on the scoreboard in the early part of the game.
