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* Why does Samaritan attempt to kill Finch by draining all the oxygen out of the room, especially with Greer inside? Yeah, Finch needs to die, but there's about what, thousands of different ways to kill him that were not only more efficient but didn't also kill a rather valuable asset to it. Just making sure Greer had a gun and order him to pull it out and shoot Finch would have done the job.

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* Why does Samaritan attempt to kill Finch by draining all the oxygen out of the room, especially with Greer inside? Yeah, Finch needs to die, but there's about what, thousands of different ways to kill him that were not only more efficient but didn't also kill a rather valuable asset to it. Just making sure Greer had a gun and order him to pull it out and shoot Finch would have done the job.job.
** I see two possibilities: Samaritan calculated that it was the most effective way to kill Finch without him escaping or the Machine interfering, and part of the trap was Greer walking into it with Finch so as to lull him into a false sense of security. ''OR'', conversely, Samaritan decided that Greer was actually a liability, and decided to be efficient about eliminating him by convincing him to make a "noble sacrifice". I don't know exactly what liability Greer would have posed, but I'm not an all-seeing AI.
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* At the end of "Deus Ex Machina", how did the NYPD know to go to the library? Did Samaritan tip them off?

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* At the end of "Deus Ex Machina", how did the NYPD know to go to the library? Did Samaritan tip them off?off?
* Why does Samaritan attempt to kill Finch by draining all the oxygen out of the room, especially with Greer inside? Yeah, Finch needs to die, but there's about what, thousands of different ways to kill him that were not only more efficient but didn't also kill a rather valuable asset to it. Just making sure Greer had a gun and order him to pull it out and shoot Finch would have done the job.
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** Possibly, this is just the Machine's regular procedure for abusive situations, to give the number of the victim rather than the perpetrator. I'd imagine it has all sorts of rules for deciding whether to give the number of the victim or the perpetrator in various situations; for example, it wouldn't do very good if, in a terrorist situation, the Machine were to give the number of a victim rather than the terrorist about to commit the act. Perhaps its subroutines have determined that it would be more effective to give the number of a woman being abused rather than her abuser.
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** When Root created Samaritan's blind spot, she prevented it from identifying any of them. Perhaps this extends to being unable to describe to its operatives who to look out for (aside from those who had already physically come in contact with them).
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*** "Serious threat" apparently means "having suspicions/knowledge of a super-intelligent AI." Don't know how exactly Samaritan can gauge that, but Fusco didn't know anything about either the Machine or Samaritan [[spoiler: until season 5, when he started investigating a string of missing persons, at which point he ''was'' targeted by Samaritan.]]
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** As we eventually see, it has located itself inside boxes attached to the power grid, all across the country. In addition to this being a clever hiding place, this design would allow The Machine to divert information without anyone detecting it, even from classified networks. Those networks are 'airgapped' from unclassified networks, but that airgap does not extend to electrical power. So all The Machine has to hack various firmwares to get them to dump everything out the power plug, and wait for those to be used in government systems, and receive the signal in the boxes outside. It previously seemed unlikely that something like this could be done in firmware, but as of 2018, there are two known hacks, '[=AirHopper=]' and '[=GSMem=]', that can make existing computers, with no hardware designed to do so, transmit on frequencies that can be picked up by an FM radio or cellular phone, respectively. So it is entirely plausible for an ASI to figure out how to get a computer or router to transmit some RF back over their power connection, or just minutely alter the amount of power used in a specific pattern. This would allow it to be picked up by boxes mounted on electrical poles outside classified government buildings. And that method would mean no one could notice the outgoing network traffic, which is what tripped up Decima when they tried something like that.
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*** Turns out there ''are'' franchises - [[Recap/PersonOfInterestS05E11 "Synecdoche"]] reveals that there's at least one other team, located in DC. Who knows what else our girl's been up to?
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* Finch said that certain numbers kept coming up over an over again, mostly women. Finch eventually learned that these women were abuse victims. But the Machine gives the numbers of killers as well as victims, the numbers of the abusers should have come up as often as the victims, the repeat numbers should have been 50/50 in terms of gender.
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*** A human certainly can't understand the inner workings of an ASI. Don't forget that todays deep neural networks are already incomprehensible.
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** That fits what we saw in "Relevance" though. [[AllLoveIsUnrequited Cole's attraction to Shaw is unspoken]], while Shaw is an unquestioning killer. And we don't know if Shaw loved Cole in turn; she regarded him as a friend, perhaps because he treated her as one instead of a sociopathic freak.

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** That fits what we saw in "Relevance" though. [[AllLoveIsUnrequited Cole's attraction to Shaw is unspoken]], while Shaw is an unquestioning killer. And we don't know if Shaw loved Cole in turn; she regarded him as a friend, perhaps because he treated her as one instead of a sociopathic freak.freak.
* At the end of "Deus Ex Machina", how did the NYPD know to go to the library? Did Samaritan tip them off?

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** Would have made sense to stick a SSD in anyway so the machine had permanent storage and somewhere to move. Their not that big and the machine could tranfer from RAM to SSD after it was disconnected from outside sources.

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** Would have made sense to stick a SSD in anyway so the machine had permanent storage and somewhere to move. Their not that big and the machine could tranfer transfer from RAM to SSD after it was disconnected from outside sources.sources.
*** They were struggling to get it onto the RAM in the first place. Adding another transfer would just cause ''more'' errors.



* Am I the only one to think that Harold values his "honour" more than peoples lives? How many people have died because he wouldn't kill two people that the machine had marked for termination. He's said he'll sacrifce anything and everything to save an innocent but obviously not since your life and your possessions AREN'T everything.

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* Am I the only one to think that Harold values his "honour" more than peoples lives? How many people have died because he wouldn't kill two people that the machine had marked for termination. He's said he'll sacrifce sacrifice anything and everything to save an innocent but obviously not since your life and your possessions AREN'T everything.everything.
** They weren't his to sacrifice, in his mind.


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** They jazzed it up so they could nail him, possibly to coerce him into working for the government. Or to make him seem more dangerous so cops treat him more seriously, then they lower the charge when they have him.
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* Did the writers totally forget about Shaw's thing with Cole, or are they simply so enamored with [[PortmanteauCoupleName Shoot]] that they refuse to acknowledge it? When the Machine tells Finch about its "what if I was never built?" simulations, she shows that Shaw and Cole continued working together, but their interaction is downright ''icy''. The revelation that Cole was incredibly important to Shaw was one of the very first cracks in her EmotionlessGirl armor, making their relationship a major plot point in the past; even part of the reason Shaw felt betrayed by her former employers was the fact that he died on a mission. So, if Cole were still alive in a Machine-free timeline, it's make sense that they'd be close, even if not romantically involved (though all past information about them would indicate they would have become involved had he lived long enough). Did the Machine somehow not know about their feelings, despite knowing plenty about them otherwise, or is even she such a giant ShipperOnDeck that she refuses to admit that Shaw may have been in love before?

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* Did the writers totally forget about Shaw's thing with Cole, or are they simply so enamored with [[PortmanteauCoupleName Shoot]] that they refuse to acknowledge it? When the Machine tells Finch about its "what if I was never built?" simulations, she shows that Shaw and Cole continued working together, but their interaction is downright ''icy''. The revelation that Cole was incredibly important to Shaw was one of the very first cracks in her EmotionlessGirl armor, making their relationship a major plot point in the past; even part of the reason Shaw felt betrayed by her former employers was the fact that he died on a mission. So, if Cole were still alive in a Machine-free timeline, it's make sense that they'd be close, even if not romantically involved (though all past information about them would indicate they would have become involved had he lived long enough). Did the Machine somehow not know about their feelings, despite knowing plenty about them otherwise, or is even she such a giant ShipperOnDeck that she refuses to admit that Shaw may have been in love before?before?
** That fits what we saw in "Relevance" though. [[AllLoveIsUnrequited Cole's attraction to Shaw is unspoken]], while Shaw is an unquestioning killer. And we don't know if Shaw loved Cole in turn; she regarded him as a friend, perhaps because he treated her as one instead of a sociopathic freak.

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** Fingerprinting isn't perfect. Objects that have a lot of human contact (doorknobs, railings etc.) make it a pain to pull even a partial print

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** Fingerprinting isn't perfect. Objects that have a lot of human contact (doorknobs, railings etc.) make it a pain to pull even a partial printprint.



* The machine is not physically present anywhere known to Northern Lights. How can Control shut it down if she doesn't know where it is? At most, she can "stand down" all ISA personnel tasked for Northern Lights, but that shouldn't stop The Machine from being able to keep giving out Relevant numbers.

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** Except Carter ran Reese's prints in the pilot (taken from the cup he was drinking from) and discovered there were international warrants out on him.
* The machine Machine is not physically present anywhere known to Northern Lights. How can Control shut it down if she doesn't know where it is? At most, she can "stand down" all ISA personnel tasked for Northern Lights, but that shouldn't stop The Machine from being able to keep giving out Relevant numbers.
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*** Perhaps, since there were so many politics going on, ISA agents were dissuaded by someone with connections against interfering with anything that might come up with the Congressman.


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** I think it's more that he's upset about the existence of a classified program, period, regardless of what it's actually for.
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** This is actually a bit of TruthInTelevision. While most crime thriller shows portray FBI agents with dark secrets or tragic pasts, the requirements for getting into the FBI are very strict; they ask about any and all drug use, alcohol use, marital status, etc. They really don't want potential moles or double agents sneaking in. Potential applicant closely associated with a potentially dirty cop? Better safe than sorry!
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*** It might not be the most logical choice for someone who should be interested in staying out of her way. Reese still sticks around despite finding a dead body on their first date and getting shot at after they go for that beer (he even communicates with Finch after getting her out of the line of fire, and fires back at the shooters), and doesn't act interested in sleeping with her at all. At some point, she should have figured out that he wasn't really interested in her in any other capacity than keeping her safe.
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*** This is pretty much the justification Finch and Reese give for not telling him what's going on- if he's actively aware of Samaritan, he'll become a target. And it starts to happen later in the show, when he stumbles across some of Samaritan's misdeeds.
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** Greer is playing to their desire to have an "open system" that gives them more than just the (ambivalent - perp, or victim?) numbers. It's not just that they presently can't keep using the Machine for fear of further public scrutiny, it's also that Samaritan promises them the sort of full access they've been trying to get by suborning the Machine. Northern Lights has also been looking for something more reliable ever since the Machine relocated its own servers and hid them away; they no longer trust the Machine. That's why Control was trying to obtain Samaritan well before Vigilance leaked information to expose Northern Lights. Greer also uses the fact that Decima is a private corporation to claim that Control et al. will have more plausible deniability than they did when they ostensibly owned the Machine themselves. He essentially tells Garrison that Decima can be blamed if Samaritan's existence and methods are leaked to the public. And of course Greer ''still'' doesn't convince them to give him the feeds until he creates a situation in which Control and Senator Garrison [[ItsPersonal are personally threatened]] by an organization Samaritan could have stopped, one that (from their perspective) Decima saves them from. Ultimately, Greer's feeling that humans are imperfect and can be suborned is borne out by the success of his multilayered BatmanGambit. He sees Northern Lights and the U.s. government as driven by selfishness and cowardice, and he therefore plays to their lust for power and information, their sense of self- (and career) preservation, and ultimately their personal fears to maneuver them to give him the feeds. The reliability of the Machine is a *logical* argument for keeping it; Greer is playing to something else entirely.

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** Greer is playing to their desire to have an "open system" that gives them more than just the (ambivalent - perp, or victim?) numbers. It's not just that they presently can't keep using the Machine for fear of further public scrutiny, it's also that Samaritan promises them the sort of full access they've been trying to get by suborning the Machine. Northern Lights has also been looking for something more reliable ever since the Machine relocated its own servers and hid them away; they no longer trust the Machine. That's why Control was trying to obtain Samaritan well before Vigilance leaked information to expose Northern Lights. Greer also uses the fact that Decima is a private corporation to claim that Control et al. will have more plausible deniability than they did when they ostensibly owned the Machine themselves. He essentially tells Garrison that Decima can be blamed if Samaritan's existence and methods are leaked to the public. And of course Greer ''still'' doesn't convince them to give him the feeds until he creates a situation in which Control and Senator Garrison [[ItsPersonal are personally threatened]] by an organization Samaritan could have stopped, one that (from their perspective) Decima saves them from. Ultimately, Greer's feeling that humans are imperfect and can be suborned is borne out by the success of his multilayered BatmanGambit. He sees Northern Lights and the U.s. government people in power as flawed because he thinks they're driven by selfishness and cowardice, and he therefore plays to their lust for power and information, their sense of self- (and career) preservation, and ultimately their personal fears to maneuver them to give him the feeds. The reliability of the Machine is a *logical* argument for keeping it; Greer is playing to something else entirely.
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** Greer is playing to their desire to have an "open system" that gives them more than just the (ambivalent - perp, or victim?) numbers it's not just that they presently can't keep using the Machine for fear of further public scrutiny -- remember, Northern Lights had already been forced to stop responding to "relevant" numbers int he wake of the leaks -- it's also that Samaritan promises them the sort of full access they've been trying to get by suborning the Machine. That's why Control was trying to obtain Samaritan well before Vigilance leaked information to expose Northern Lights. Greer also uses the fact that Decima is a private corporation to claim that Control et al. will have more plausible deniability than they did when they ostensibly owned the Machine themselves. He essentially tells Garrison that Decima can be blamed if Samaritan's existence and methods are leaked tot he public. And of course Greer ''still''; doesn't convince them to give him the feeds until he creates a situation in which Control and Senator Garrison [[ItsPersonal are personally threatened]] by an organization Samaritan could have stopped, one that (from their perspective) Decima saves them from. Ultimately, Greer's feeling that humans are imperfect and can be suborned is borne out by the success of his multilayered BatmanGambit. He sees Northern Lights and the U.s. government as driven by selfishness and cowardice, and he therefore plays to their lust for power and information, their sense of self- (and career) preservation, and ultimately their personal fears to maneuver them to give him the feeds. The reliability of the Machine is a *logical* argument for keeping it; Greer is playing to something else entirely.

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** Greer is playing to their desire to have an "open system" that gives them more than just the (ambivalent - perp, or victim?) numbers it's numbers. It's not just that they presently can't keep using the Machine for fear of further public scrutiny -- remember, Northern Lights had already been forced to stop responding to "relevant" numbers int he wake of the leaks -- scrutiny, it's also that Samaritan promises them the sort of full access they've been trying to get by suborning the Machine. Northern Lights has also been looking for something more reliable ever since the Machine relocated its own servers and hid them away; they no longer trust the Machine. That's why Control was trying to obtain Samaritan well before Vigilance leaked information to expose Northern Lights. Greer also uses the fact that Decima is a private corporation to claim that Control et al. will have more plausible deniability than they did when they ostensibly owned the Machine themselves. He essentially tells Garrison that Decima can be blamed if Samaritan's existence and methods are leaked tot he to the public. And of course Greer ''still''; ''still'' doesn't convince them to give him the feeds until he creates a situation in which Control and Senator Garrison [[ItsPersonal are personally threatened]] by an organization Samaritan could have stopped, one that (from their perspective) Decima saves them from. Ultimately, Greer's feeling that humans are imperfect and can be suborned is borne out by the success of his multilayered BatmanGambit. He sees Northern Lights and the U.s. government as driven by selfishness and cowardice, and he therefore plays to their lust for power and information, their sense of self- (and career) preservation, and ultimately their personal fears to maneuver them to give him the feeds. The reliability of the Machine is a *logical* argument for keeping it; Greer is playing to something else entirely.
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** Greer is playing to their desire to have an "open system" that gives them more than just the (ambivalent - perp, or victim?) numbers it's not just that they presently can't keep using the Machine for fear of further public scrutiny -- remember, Northern Lights had already been forced to stop responding to "relevant" numbers int he wake of the leaks -- it's also that Samaritan promises them the sort of full access they've been trying to get by suborning the Machine. That's why Control was trying to obtain Samaritan well before Vigilance leaked information to expose Northern Lights. Greer also uses the fact that Decima is a private corporation to claim that Control et al. will have more plausible deniability than they did when they ostensibly owned the Machine themselves. He essentially tells Garrison that Decima can be blamed if Samaritan's existence and methods are leaked tot he public. And of course Greer ''still''; doesn't convince them to give him the feeds until he creates a situation in which Control and Senator Garrison [[ItsPersonal are personally threatened]] by an organization Samaritan could have stopped, one that (from their perspective) Decima saves them from. Ultimately, Greer's feeling that humans are imperfect and can be suborned is borne out by the success of his multilayered BatmanGambit. He sees Northern Lights and the U.s. government as driven by selfishness and cowardice, and he therefore plays to their lust for power and information, their sense of self- (and career) preservation, and ultimately their personal fears to maneuver them to give him the feeds. The reliability of the Machine is a *logical* argument for keeping it; Greer is playing to something else entirely.
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** Decima is also running Samaritan on much better hardware, thanks to the stolen generators and the cloned superconductor chips they obtained in Season 3. It has a lot more raw processing power available than the Machine does at that point.
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* How does Samaritan being activated and provided unrestricted access to the NSA feeds logically follow from the Vigilance bombing at the end of season 3? The reason why The Machine didn't warn about said incident was because the Northern Lights project had been suspended due to increased public scrutiny. That isn't the fault of the Machine. What Greer was selling boiled down to "you neglected to use your tool, and so you weren't able to do the job you needed the tool to do. Would you like to throw away the tool that has never once failed you when you actually used it and buy my version instead?"

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* How does Samaritan being activated and provided unrestricted access to the NSA feeds logically follow from the Vigilance bombing at the end of season 3? The reason why The Machine didn't warn about said incident was because the Northern Lights project had been suspended due to increased public scrutiny. That isn't the fault of the Machine. What Greer was selling boiled down to "you neglected to use your tool, and so you weren't able to do the job you needed the tool to do. Would you like to throw away the tool that has never once failed you when you actually used it and buy my version instead?"instead?"
* Did the writers totally forget about Shaw's thing with Cole, or are they simply so enamored with [[PortmanteauCoupleName Shoot]] that they refuse to acknowledge it? When the Machine tells Finch about its "what if I was never built?" simulations, she shows that Shaw and Cole continued working together, but their interaction is downright ''icy''. The revelation that Cole was incredibly important to Shaw was one of the very first cracks in her EmotionlessGirl armor, making their relationship a major plot point in the past; even part of the reason Shaw felt betrayed by her former employers was the fact that he died on a mission. So, if Cole were still alive in a Machine-free timeline, it's make sense that they'd be close, even if not romantically involved (though all past information about them would indicate they would have become involved had he lived long enough). Did the Machine somehow not know about their feelings, despite knowing plenty about them otherwise, or is even she such a giant ShipperOnDeck that she refuses to admit that Shaw may have been in love before?
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* How are Harold's youthful indiscretions considered treason? Treason has a very specific definition under the Constitution, namely waging war against the US or aiding those who do. What Harold did as a kid was crash a set of interconnected computers, which while owned by the military, was intended for pure research purposes (The original purpose of the ARPANET was to allow people to access research computers anywhere in the country - the military applications were added later), which is not an act of war. And how to prosecute him? Under the Constitution, you can't convict someone of treason without either a confession or at least two eyewitnesses. Where are the witnesses going to come from in a crime committed remotely?

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* How are Harold's youthful indiscretions considered treason? Treason has a very specific definition under the Constitution, namely waging war against the US or aiding those who do. What Harold did as a kid was crash a set of interconnected computers, which while owned by the military, was intended for pure research purposes (The original purpose of the ARPANET was to allow people to access research computers anywhere in the country - the military applications were added later), which is not an act of war. And how to prosecute him? Under the Constitution, you can't convict someone of treason without either a confession or at least two eyewitnesses. Where are the witnesses going to come from in a crime committed remotely?remotely?
* How does Samaritan being activated and provided unrestricted access to the NSA feeds logically follow from the Vigilance bombing at the end of season 3? The reason why The Machine didn't warn about said incident was because the Northern Lights project had been suspended due to increased public scrutiny. That isn't the fault of the Machine. What Greer was selling boiled down to "you neglected to use your tool, and so you weren't able to do the job you needed the tool to do. Would you like to throw away the tool that has never once failed you when you actually used it and buy my version instead?"
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* Am I the only one to think that Harold values his "honour" more than peoples lives? How many people have died because he wouldn't kill two people that the machine had marked for termination. He's said he'll sacrifce anything and everything to save an innocent but obviously not since your life and your possessions AREN'T everything.

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* Am I the only one to think that Harold values his "honour" more than peoples lives? How many people have died because he wouldn't kill two people that the machine had marked for termination. He's said he'll sacrifce anything and everything to save an innocent but obviously not since your life and your possessions AREN'T everything.everything.
* Why wasn't Greer disappeared the moment he admitted that he knew of The Machine in Season 3? Control had been consistently wiping out everyone who learned of it before, and a foreign national who works for a non-US intelligence agency is a textbook example of someone who wouldn't be cleared to know of the US government's blackest security program.
* How did Samaritan get so powerful so fast? It took years for Finch to get from a self-aware program to one that could make the connections necessary to identify relevant and irrelevant threats. Samaritan had been self-aware for less than a day when the program was unfunded, and then had been in Decima's control for less than six months when it became all-powerful. How'd they get it worked up so fast? Even if they skipped all the fail-safes that Finch had put into his creation, it should have taken much longer than that.
* How are Harold's youthful indiscretions considered treason? Treason has a very specific definition under the Constitution, namely waging war against the US or aiding those who do. What Harold did as a kid was crash a set of interconnected computers, which while owned by the military, was intended for pure research purposes (The original purpose of the ARPANET was to allow people to access research computers anywhere in the country - the military applications were added later), which is not an act of war. And how to prosecute him? Under the Constitution, you can't convict someone of treason without either a confession or at least two eyewitnesses. Where are the witnesses going to come from in a crime committed remotely?
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** Do you have any idea how many tall, dark-haired men who own nice suits live in NYC?
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* Exactly how could reintroducing thylacines to their native habitat disrupt the global food economy? Yes, yes, butterfly effect and all that, but let's look at exactly what that butterfly is flapping about: the thylacine was native to Tasmania, Australia, and New Guinea, but went extinct in Australia 2,000 years ago and New Guinea even longer ago (hence why we call them ''Tasmanian'' [=tigers/wolves=]). So, if the doctor were going to pick a place to reintroduce them into the wild, she'd likely pick Tasmania. Tasmania is, to be blunt, '''tiny''' in the global scheme. Its population is about half a million, but half the land is tied up in nature parks and thus ''not'' in use for food production. Furthermore, most of Tasmania's economy isn't in food production at all, and what of it ''is'' is mostly seafood and crops (neither of which thylacines would be terribly interested in - they were strict carnivores, so all plant crops are safe,[[note]]and might actually be saf''er'' with thylacines around, as they'd be eating small herbivores who damage crops,[[/note]] and the only way they could get seafood would be to steal it from humans, which they were generally wary of). Herding isn't exactly a big deal there. But really, even if they were released in mainland Australia, some studies of the thylacine show its bite was relatively weak, and so even sheep would be relatively safe from predation (newborn lambs would be at risk, but that's about it; they'd be more likely to scavenge the corpse of an already-dead sheep than to kill a healthy one). If they wanted to pick an animal with the potential to disrupt food production, they should've gone for the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon passenger pigeon,]] an herbivore known to have a taste for grain and a native habitat in America's bread basket. However, all "de-extincted" species would have a FatalFlaw: they're all essentially clones of each other, due to lack of well-preserved DNA samples (the current thylacine genome was cobbled together from multiple samples, so while the clone wouldn't be a duplicate of any ''one'' thylacine, all the clones would be identical to each other). Even assuming you could get functioning X and Y chromosomes to produce male and female members, without a carefully-managed breeding program, de-extincted animals would be one errant sneeze away from a species-wide re-extinction event. You simply wouldn't get the large numbers of wild animals required to disrupt food production.

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* Exactly how could reintroducing thylacines to their native habitat disrupt the global food economy? Yes, yes, butterfly effect and all that, but let's look at exactly what that butterfly is flapping about: the thylacine was native to Tasmania, Australia, and New Guinea, but went extinct in Australia 2,000 years ago and New Guinea even longer ago (hence why we call them ''Tasmanian'' [=tigers/wolves=]). So, if the doctor were going to pick a place to reintroduce them into the wild, she'd likely pick Tasmania. Tasmania is, to be blunt, '''tiny''' in the global scheme. Its population is about half a million, but half the land is tied up in nature parks and thus ''not'' in use for food production. Furthermore, most of Tasmania's economy isn't in food production at all, and what of it ''is'' is mostly seafood and crops (neither of which thylacines would be terribly interested in - they were strict carnivores, so all plant crops are safe,[[note]]and might actually be saf''er'' with thylacines around, as they'd be eating small herbivores who damage crops,[[/note]] and the only way they could get seafood would be to steal it from humans, which they were generally wary of). Herding isn't exactly a big deal there. But really, even if they were released in mainland Australia, some studies of the thylacine show its bite was relatively weak, and so even sheep would be relatively safe from predation (newborn lambs would be at risk, but that's about it; they'd be more likely to scavenge the corpse of an already-dead sheep than to kill a healthy one). If they wanted to pick an animal with the potential to disrupt food production, they should've gone for the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon passenger pigeon,]] an herbivore known to have a taste for grain and a native habitat in America's bread basket. However, all "de-extincted" species would have a FatalFlaw: they're all essentially clones of each other, due to lack of well-preserved DNA samples (the current thylacine genome was cobbled together from multiple samples, so while the clone wouldn't be a duplicate of any ''one'' thylacine, all the clones would be identical to each other). Even assuming you could get functioning X and Y chromosomes to produce male and female members, without a carefully-managed breeding program, de-extincted animals would be one errant sneeze away from a species-wide re-extinction event. You simply wouldn't get the large numbers of wild animals required to disrupt food production.production.
* Am I the only one to think that Harold values his "honour" more than peoples lives? How many people have died because he wouldn't kill two people that the machine had marked for termination. He's said he'll sacrifce anything and everything to save an innocent but obviously not since your life and your possessions AREN'T everything.
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** Makes you wonder when someone comes up "deviant", doesn't it. Don't you just want to know more?


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** Either she's as oblivious as Lois Lane, or she doesn't expect the person she's hunting to go on a date with her. I find it funny that Fusco's descriptions (tall, dark and whispery, etc) to be much easier to use as a description.


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** Facebook is like Wikipedia. It's where you start, not where you finish. Given the machine can hack your emails, phone, home security, workplace, etc, it's would have no problem coming up with a true picture.


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** Also, governments really are that stupid and anal. The world is full of stories about government departments failing utterly to communicate with other departments in the same building. The NSA was introduced specifically because the inter-agency communications between the intelligence community was so bad.


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** Closed Circuit in theory means it has no outside communication. If you have your own security personnel, this is entirely feasible since they respond to problems. The stock exchange could easily have an independent CCTV system since it doesn't need outside resources. Mobile phones, traffic cameras, etc are supposed to be secure but no one imagined they face a IA supercomputer. Easy way to view it is to think about any detective dramas you've watched and count the number of times the investigators ask for the CCTV video tapes from real closed circuit tv security. They rely on the owner of the CCTV to give them the tape since it has no other way of been accessed.


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*** Is it just coincidence that the people with yellow boxes are the only ones who can have "two way" communication with the machine even it's only talking to a camera and appealling to the machines "empathy".


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** He's most likely refering to the fact that wether verbally or visually, a sequence of numbers will have to come in list form so a human can understand them. He simply meant the first one on the screen.


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** Not forgetting that the machine is more than capable of dissappering people from any known database if it wants. Most fingerprint (and other law enforcement databases) have to be accessible from any police station anywhere in the country. It's easy for the machine to interfere.


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** It really annoyed me as well. Any competent security agency will give it's agents a top ten most wanted list to keep a look out for in the course of their normal duties. Even shopping centre security is given a list of troublemakers. The tv news frequently requests info on wanted criminals from the public. Since Greer believes in human intel as well as Samaritan, it's obvious he should/would have used it as well. When Martine went to question Fusco about something, it's a good thing Reese wasn't there. It's not easy to spoof both digital AND human surveillance at the same time.


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**** Fusco must be one of the seven since seven Samaritan servers were tampered with (presumably the seven from the OP) and the number of times Fusco has come into direct conflict with Samaritan agents mean that if he wasn't protected, he'd be killed simply as a serious threat if not a "team machine" member.


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** The original location of the machine was set up specifically for its use and would have adequate resources. It's alternate location was stated by Harold has having more than enough band-width. AS to how it can use NSA resources - the goverment believes that everybody who knew about the machine is dead and they don't expect "the machine" to think for itself. They wouldn't really consider it a threat without a human operator.


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** As of the end of season 3, Samaritian has literally had it hardwired into it that team machine are non-relevant. It doesn't know where they are even if they're stood right in front of it.


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** It should be noted that the trojan is now part of Samaritan and can potentially be activated at a later date. Not part of Harolds plan but still a weakness in Samaritan.


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** Would have made sense to stick a SSD in anyway so the machine had permanent storage and somewhere to move. Their not that big and the machine could tranfer from RAM to SSD after it was disconnected from outside sources.


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** I'm not sure it does or the irrelevant numbers wouldn't come up would they


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** Also, the congressman, as a politician been targeted for assassination, would come under "relevant", not irrelevant. Potential plot hole here since no ISA agents turned up to protect the congressman.
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** Given how far ahead the Machine can plan, it's not impossible that it saw a future asset given exactly how valuable he turned out to be at the end of season 4.
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*** Presumably it's an abandoned station on a spur line, so they can drive the trolley out onto the main lines in an emergency. It would be an option with a low chance of success for a number of reasons but as a last ditch option it's potentially worth it.
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** Where else could they move to, that Samaritan couldn't find them? An abandoned subway station, with untraceable electrical and data lines, is the most secure facility they could hope for. By "[=ShotSeeker=]" we know that [[spoiler:the team has a safe house, but if they plug in the rebuilt Machine there, the power and data usage would be an instant target for Samaritan]]. Plus, they probably know that [[spoiler: Shaw]] would die before revealing the subway station. In SNAFU, Finch notes that [[spoiler:the Machine is completely contained within the trolley, to let it be more mobile in case of emergency, though I'm not sure how the ''trolley'' could be removed from the station]].

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** Where else could they move to, that Samaritan couldn't find them? An abandoned subway station, with untraceable electrical and data lines, is the most secure facility they could hope for. By "[=ShotSeeker=]" we know that [[spoiler:the team has a safe house, but if they plug in the rebuilt Machine there, the power and data usage would be an instant target for Samaritan]]. Plus, they probably know that [[spoiler: Shaw]] would die before revealing the subway station. In SNAFU, Finch notes that [[spoiler:the Machine is completely contained within the trolley, to let it be more mobile in case of emergency, though I'm not sure how the ''trolley'' could be removed from the station]].station]].
* Exactly how could reintroducing thylacines to their native habitat disrupt the global food economy? Yes, yes, butterfly effect and all that, but let's look at exactly what that butterfly is flapping about: the thylacine was native to Tasmania, Australia, and New Guinea, but went extinct in Australia 2,000 years ago and New Guinea even longer ago (hence why we call them ''Tasmanian'' [=tigers/wolves=]). So, if the doctor were going to pick a place to reintroduce them into the wild, she'd likely pick Tasmania. Tasmania is, to be blunt, '''tiny''' in the global scheme. Its population is about half a million, but half the land is tied up in nature parks and thus ''not'' in use for food production. Furthermore, most of Tasmania's economy isn't in food production at all, and what of it ''is'' is mostly seafood and crops (neither of which thylacines would be terribly interested in - they were strict carnivores, so all plant crops are safe,[[note]]and might actually be saf''er'' with thylacines around, as they'd be eating small herbivores who damage crops,[[/note]] and the only way they could get seafood would be to steal it from humans, which they were generally wary of). Herding isn't exactly a big deal there. But really, even if they were released in mainland Australia, some studies of the thylacine show its bite was relatively weak, and so even sheep would be relatively safe from predation (newborn lambs would be at risk, but that's about it; they'd be more likely to scavenge the corpse of an already-dead sheep than to kill a healthy one). If they wanted to pick an animal with the potential to disrupt food production, they should've gone for the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon passenger pigeon,]] an herbivore known to have a taste for grain and a native habitat in America's bread basket. However, all "de-extincted" species would have a FatalFlaw: they're all essentially clones of each other, due to lack of well-preserved DNA samples (the current thylacine genome was cobbled together from multiple samples, so while the clone wouldn't be a duplicate of any ''one'' thylacine, all the clones would be identical to each other). Even assuming you could get functioning X and Y chromosomes to produce male and female members, without a carefully-managed breeding program, de-extincted animals would be one errant sneeze away from a species-wide re-extinction event. You simply wouldn't get the large numbers of wild animals required to disrupt food production.

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