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** The anime adaptation sheds some light on this: During the climactic battle against berserk Adam, the androids on the ground make a request to the bunker for the use of the satellite laser. Subsequently, the Commander is shown asking the Council of Humanity for permission to use said satellites, which they flatly refuse without giving any explanation whatsoever. Thus, the final authority to use the satellite belongs to the Council, not the Commander, and the androids are simply left believing that it's all part of humanity's bigger plan which they are not worthy of questioning or even knowing.
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*** Thanks for the answer. I am still not sure what the implication of the true ending is however? Are the android leaders going to make more androids and send them to Earth or re-establish YoRHa? Are there still machines and is there going to be another war? Or is the war completely over? In which case what are the unseen android leaders going to do next and how will 2B, 9S and A2 fit into it?

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*** ** Thanks for the answer. I am still not sure what the implication of the true ending is however? Are the android leaders going to make more androids and send them to Earth or re-establish YoRHa? Are there still machines and is there going to be another war? Or is the war completely over? In which case what are the unseen android leaders going to do next and how will 2B, 9S and A2 fit into it?
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*** Thanks for the answer. I am still not sure what the implication of the true ending is however? Are the android leaders going to make more androids and send them to Earth or re-establish YoRHa? Are there still machines and is there going to be another war? Or is the war completely over? In which case what are the unseen android leaders going to do next and how will 2B, 9S and A2 fit into it?
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** It arguably doesn't matter, since the point of the Pods bringing back the three androids is to give them a fresh start without YoRHa and the war. Given that Ending E can follow either C or D (whichever one you don't reach first) it seems to me that the intent is to wipe the slate clean for 2B, 9S and A2.
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** It's almost certain there's some kind of android leadership operating in the shadows, because all the details of conspiracy behind the war were not known even to the Commander, so there has to be a level of leadership above her. Also, in her last message Jackass vows to have revenge on those behind the conspiracy, so it seems those shadowy leaders are still somewhere out there. As for other androids, there's nothing to imply that the entire Resistance was wiped out, only the ones in Anemone's base. Surely there were many other Resistance bases on Earth, and once the machine network has gone to space, the virus corrupting the androids should become dormant, so it seems unlikely they have all killed each other.

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** It's almost certain there's some kind of android leadership operating in the shadows, because all the details of conspiracy behind the war were not known even to the Commander, so there has to be a level of leadership above her. Also, in her last message Jackass vows to have revenge on those the people behind the conspiracy, so it seems those shadowy leaders are still somewhere out there. As for other androids, there's nothing to imply that the entire Resistance was wiped out, only the ones in Anemone's base. Surely there were many other Resistance bases on Earth, and once the machine network has gone to space, the virus corrupting the androids should become dormant, so it seems unlikely they have all killed each other.
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** It's almost certain there's some kind of android leadership operating in the shadows, because all the details of conspiracy behind the war were not known even to the Commander, so there has to be a level of leadership above her. Also, in her last message Jackass vows to have revenge on those behind the conspiracy, so it seems those shadowy leaders are still somewhere out there. As for other androids, there's nothing to imply that the entire Resistance was wiped out, only the one's in Anemone's base. Surely there were many other bases on Earth, and once the machine network has gone to space, the virus corrupting should become dormant, so it seems unlikely the androids have all killed each other.

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** It's almost certain there's some kind of android leadership operating in the shadows, because all the details of conspiracy behind the war were not known even to the Commander, so there has to be a level of leadership above her. Also, in her last message Jackass vows to have revenge on those behind the conspiracy, so it seems those shadowy leaders are still somewhere out there. As for other androids, there's nothing to imply that the entire Resistance was wiped out, only the one's ones in Anemone's base. Surely there were many other Resistance bases on Earth, and once the machine network has gone to space, the virus corrupting the androids should become dormant, so it seems unlikely the androids they have all killed each other.
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** It's almost certain there's some kind of android leadership operating in the shadows, because all the details of conspiracy behind the war were not known even to the Commander, so there has to be a level of leadership above her. Also, in her last message Jackass vows to have revenge on those behind the conspiracy, so it seems those shadowy leaders are still somewhere out there. As for other androids, there's nothing to imply that the entire Resistance was wiped out, only the one's in Anemone's base. Surely there were many other bases on Earth, and once the machine network has gone to space, the virus corrupting should become dormant, so it seems unlikely the androids have all killed each other.
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*So at the end of the game, are all androids and machines just dead other than 2B, 9S, and A2 (And I suppose Anemone and Jackass) leaving them and the pods the only ones left on Earth? Or is there still some sort of Android leadership out there who plans to start a new iteration of androids or a new Machine Network of some kind? Would seem kinda depressing if the main 3 were the only ones left alive for all time…
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* In the fight against Grun we learn that [=YoRHa=] has an powerful satellite laser they can use to hit ground targets. Why isn't it ever used against other targets that are infested with machines but no androids live there, such as the abandoned factory? Okay, we know that the true masterminds behind [=YoRHa=] don't actually want the war to end, but the Commander doesn't know that. So what's her excuse for not using the laser?

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* In the fight against Grun Grün we learn that [=YoRHa=] has an powerful satellite laser they can use to hit ground targets. Why isn't it ever used against other targets that are infested with machines but no androids live there, such as the abandoned factory? Okay, we know that the true masterminds behind [=YoRHa=] don't actually want the war to end, but the Commander doesn't know that. So what's her excuse for not using the laser?
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* In the fight against Grun we learn that [=YorHa=] has an powerful satellite laser they can use to hit ground targets. Why isn't it ever used against other targets that are infested with machines but no androids live there, such as the abandoned factory? Okay, we know that the true masterminds behind [=YorHa=] don't actually want the war to end, but the Commander doesn't know that. So what's her excuse for not using the laser?

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* In the fight against Grun we learn that [=YorHa=] [=YoRHa=] has an powerful satellite laser they can use to hit ground targets. Why isn't it ever used against other targets that are infested with machines but no androids live there, such as the abandoned factory? Okay, we know that the true masterminds behind [=YorHa=] [=YoRHa=] don't actually want the war to end, but the Commander doesn't know that. So what's her excuse for not using the laser?
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** As seen in the game, they provide support, weapons, and materials to [=YoRHa=] androids so that they can keep on fighting. Some of them, such as Jackass, are also implied to be involved in guerilla tactics against the machines. And Anemones's backstory reveals that the resistance existed before the current line of [=YoRHa=] androids were created, so before that they were the ones fighting the machines. After the introduction of the new androids, who are more efficient fighters as well as more expendable, most resistance members were probably happy to fall back to a more civilian lifestyle, where they support [=YoRHa=] when needed but don't have to fight on the frontlines.

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** As seen in the game, they provide support, weapons, and materials to [=YoRHa=] androids so that they can keep on fighting. Some of them, such as Jackass, are also implied to be involved in guerilla tactics against the machines. And Anemones's backstory reveals that the resistance existed long before the current line of [=YoRHa=] androids were created, so before that they were the ones fighting the machines. After the introduction of the new androids, who are more efficient fighters as well as more expendable, most resistance members were probably happy to fall back to a more civilian lifestyle, where they support [=YoRHa=] when needed but don't have to fight on the frontlines.
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* Does the E route happen after the events of the D route? Since the E route starts during the end credits of the D ending, that seems to be implied... But if in the D route 9S chose to leave Earth with the machines, does that mean that two versions of him now exist: the one who left with the ark, and the one who was reconstructed by the Pods? On the other hand, if the E ending is supposed to be alternate to both the C and D ending, what happened in the fight between A2 and 9S in the E route?

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* Does the E route happen after the events of the D route? Since the E route starts during the end credits of the D ending, that seems to be implied... But if in the D route 9S chose to leave Earth with the machines, machines in the D route, does that mean that two versions of him now exist: the one who left with the ark, and the one who was reconstructed by the Pods? On the other hand, if the E ending is supposed to be alternate to both the C and D ending, what happened in the fight between A2 and 9S in the E route?
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* In the fight against Grun we learn that [=YorHa=] has an powerful satellite laser they can use to hit ground targets. Why isn't it ever used against other targets that are infested with machines but no androids live there, such as the abandoned factory? Okay, we know that the true masterminds behind [=YorHa=] don't actually want the war to end, but the Commander doesn't know that. So what's her excuse for not using the laser?
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** Even if that is true, high heels are very inconvenient for fighting, which the [=YorHa=] androids are designed for. So what's the point of imitating some ancient fashion that make the androids less efficient at their job?

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** Even if that is true, high heels are very inconvenient for physical fighting, which the [=YorHa=] androids are designed for. So what's the point of imitating some ancient fashion that make makes the androids less efficient at their job?
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** Even if that is true, high heels are very inconvenient for fighting, which the [=YorHa=] androids are designed for. So what's the point of imitating some ancient fashion that make the androids less efficient at their job?
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* Does the E route happen after the events of the D route? Since the E route starts during the end credits of the D ending, that seems to be implied... But if in the D route 9S chose to leave Earth with the machines, does that mean that two versions of him now exist: the one who left with the ark, and the one who was reconstructed by the Pods? On the other hand, if the E ending is supposed to be alternate to both the C and D ending, what happened in the fight between A2 and 9S in the E route?

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