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The Bane of the Knights Who Say Ni
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* During their first meeting, King Arthur clearly says "it" ("What it it that you want?"), but the "it" gets zero reaction from any of the Knights Who Say Ni. Did they catch some weird virus or get cursed or something in between the first and second encounters?
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* During their first meeting, King Arthur clearly says "it" ("What it it that you want?"), but the "it" gets zero reaction from any of the Knights Who Say Ni. Did they catch some weird virus or get cursed or something in between the first and second encounters?
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** because they thought they could get away with it.
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** because Because they thought they could get away with it.
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* Why did the scales have to be [[spoiler:unbalanced? One falls down and other goes up when they're free and empty, which means the witch doesn't weigh as much as a duck.]] When I noticed this, it ruined the magnificent scene of the witch trial.
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* Why did the scales have to be [[spoiler:unbalanced? be
unbalanced? One falls down and other goes up when they're free and empty, which means the witch doesn't weigh as much as aduck.]] duck. When I noticed this, it ruined the magnificent scene of the witch trial.
unbalanced? One falls down and other goes up when they're free and empty, which means the witch doesn't weigh as much as a
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** I missed that because I was too busy laughing, thinking it's about the absurdity of a witch weighing the same as a duck, not about [[spoiler:the bullshitness and {{Kangaroo Court}}ness of the trial]].
** But listen to the witch as she's led away: she says "[[StockBritishPhrases it's a fair cop]]." Apparently, as ridiculous as Bedevere's methods are, she ''was'' a witch after all (the PC game runs with that part of the joke even more, with [[spoiler:her repeatedly saying "I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch," only to immediately perform one supernatural trick after another]]).
** But listen to the witch as she's led away: she says "[[StockBritishPhrases it's a fair cop]]." Apparently, as ridiculous as Bedevere's methods are, she ''was'' a witch after all (the PC game runs with that part of the joke even more, with [[spoiler:her repeatedly saying "I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch," only to immediately perform one supernatural trick after another]]).
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** I missed that because I was too busy laughing, thinking it's about the absurdity of a witch weighing the same as a duck, not about [[spoiler:the the bullshitness and {{Kangaroo Court}}ness of the trial]].
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** But listen to the witch as she's led away: she says "[[StockBritishPhrases it's a fair cop]]." Apparently, as ridiculous as Bedevere's methods are, she ''was'' a witch after all (the PC game runs with that part of the joke even more, with[[spoiler:her her repeatedly saying "I'm not a witch, I'm not a witch," only to immediately perform one supernatural trick after another]]).another).
** But listen to the witch as she's led away: she says "[[StockBritishPhrases it's a fair cop]]." Apparently, as ridiculous as Bedevere's methods are, she ''was'' a witch after all (the PC game runs with that part of the joke even more, with
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[[folder: The biggest and most obvious headscratcher]]
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[[folder: Coconuts in England]]
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** Many people sound different in times of stress or excitement, as well as certain words will reveal an accent more than others. [[note]] Metaphor reference time: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter yet these are not strangers to our land.[[/note]]
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* Rule Of Funny. That's all.
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* Rule Of Funny. That's all. This is Monty Python after all.
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*** It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one pound coconut.
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** I imagine that people don't get it partly because the joke actually ''is'' (or, I'd imagine, is supposed to be, at least; this does tend to depend on how you're interpreting the way Connie Booth says those lines), that she's ''not'' being sarcastic, and actually is a witch. It's a play on the silliness of medieval tests against women suspected of being witches, many of which are so ludicrously unfair that the woman's pretty much dead either way. This takes such tests, expands them to utterly ludicrous logical extremes, and then in typical Python fashion the payoff is that the absurd logic is actually entirely justified; the joke isn't just that medieval witch-hunt tests are bullshit, but that in the world of the movie they're ''accurate'' bullshit.
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** I imagine that people don't get it partly because the joke actually ''is'' (or, I'd imagine, is supposed to be, at least; this does tend to depend on how you're interpreting the way Connie Booth Creator/ConnieBooth says those lines), that she's ''not'' being sarcastic, and actually is a witch. It's a play on the silliness of medieval tests against women suspected of being witches, many of which are so ludicrously unfair that the woman's pretty much dead either way. This takes such tests, expands them to utterly ludicrous logical extremes, and then in typical Python fashion the payoff is that the absurd logic is actually entirely justified; the joke isn't just that medieval witch-hunt tests are bullshit, but that in the world of the movie they're ''accurate'' bullshit.
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** Any imbalance in the scales can be easily explained by the fact that they're a crappy prop made for what looks to have been about 50p for a low-budget British comedy and it was probably the best they could get them in the time and resources they had. And Connie Booth's tone can probably be explained by the fact that she was at that point, to be entirely frank, not the best actress in the world. In keeping with typical Pythonesque logic and humour (which takes ludicrous logic to absurd extremes but plays them entirely straight), the joke is clearly supposed to be that in this universe, witches ''do'' weigh the same as ducks, and she says "it's a fair cop" because she's been found out. And even if it isn't, frankly this interpretation seems a lot more surreal, offbeat, absurd and in-keeping with the overall work of the Pythons.
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** Any imbalance in the scales can be easily explained by the fact that they're a crappy prop made for what looks to have been about 50p for a low-budget British comedy and it was probably the best they could get them in the time and resources they had. And Connie Booth's Creator/ConnieBooth's tone can probably be explained by the fact that she was at that point, to be entirely frank, not the best actress in the world. In keeping with typical Pythonesque logic and humour (which takes ludicrous logic to absurd extremes but plays them entirely straight), the joke is clearly supposed to be that in this universe, witches ''do'' weigh the same as ducks, and she says "it's a fair cop" because she's been found out. And even if it isn't, frankly this interpretation seems a lot more surreal, offbeat, absurd and in-keeping with the overall work of the Pythons.
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*** However, I will add on my own two pence here and say that the entire intent of the scene was that the results of the test were ''irrelevant''; the mob was intent on burning the witch, and, regardless of whether she actually weighed the same as a duck or whether the test was even ''fair'', they weren't going to take "no" for an answer. The "witch"'s "It's a fair cop" comment was more in the mindset of "whatever, let's just get this over with" since she'd just spent the last five minutes being judged by a group of drooling morons who thought churches and very small rocks could float on water.
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** I imagined the entire above exchange in the style of a discussion between Arthur and his Knights. And for that I thank all of you for brightening my day. Never change, [=TVTropes=].
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** In the 10th century (where the movie takes place), coconuts were largely grown in India. The Silk Road could have easily transported them from there to the edge of the Mediterranean, and there was a sea trade route from the Mediterranean to the west coast of Britain; while Mercia was largely landlocked, it had a few ports, and could have traded overland to the coast in any case. Arthur, as a member of the upper class, could have reasonably obtained a few coconuts through these convoluted trade routes, though at an extreme price. By that point the "meat" of the coconut would have likely gone bad, but it could still be sold as a curiosity, and its shell could be useful to knights who lack horses but still want to produce that "clop clop" sound.
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** The entire thing is based on InsaneTrollLogic, that's the joke!
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* It has [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons DR 20/holy]]. Or, more likely, the joke is that even someone as obviously powerful as him is terrified of a rabbit; his powers are effectively [[TheWorfEffect worfed]] to make the rabbit more intimidating.
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** He was CompletelyMissingThePoint, which is how stupid Arthur found the whole thing; none of them were as interested in such details as he.
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** He was CompletelyMissingThePoint, ComicallyMissingThePoint, which is how stupid Arthur found the whole thing; none of them were as interested in such details as he.
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*** It seems to work pretty well for [Literature/SirGawainAndTheGreenKnight that Green Knight chap].
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*** It seems to work pretty well for [Literature/SirGawainAndTheGreenKnight [[Literature/SirGawainAndTheGreenKnight that Green Knight chap].chap]].
