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Why is the Lil' Gifted School For Lil' Gifted Kids one block from the prison? Even if Megamind had never caused a mess there, this could have endangered the students if a convict escaped from prison and attacked the school!

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Why is the Lil' Gifted School For Lil' Gifted Kids one block away from the prison? Metro City Prison for the Criminally Gifted? Even if Megamind had never caused a mess there, this could have endangered the students if a convict escaped from prison and attacked the school!
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Why is the Lil' Gifted School For Lil' Gifted Kids one block from the prison? Even if Megamind had never caused a mess there, this could have endangered the students if a convict escaped from prison and attacked the school!
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** Megamind likewise seems to approach the relationship the same way. He also loves the banter, the games, etc involved in their relationship. And if anything, both of them are powerful enough to have stopped each other numerous times - they just fell into a predictable routine that was comforting but not challenging. For Megamind's side, he says it himself as well; he never really had a reason to win because, as he's implying, he always saw his role as The Loser.
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** Actually you can get DNA from bones. "Bone is one of the best sources of DNA from decomposed human remains. Even after the flesh is decomposed, DNA can often be obtained from demineralized bone. DNA from bone has been used to identify the repatrioted bones from Vietnam era servicemen, and the remains of the White Russian Romanov family who were executed during the Bolsheviek revolution." And Bone is only about 70% mineralized. It also includes Osteocyctes, Osteoblasts, colligens, hematopoietic cells, stromal cells and adipose tissue...all of which contain DNA.
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* He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand what she's saying, she's confused..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line.\\

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* He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand know what she's saying, she's confused...been through a traumatic experience..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line.\\

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How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Tighten by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Tighten" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Tighten' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
* I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus it's exactly the sort of creepy thing he'd do.
* I figured she did it because she knew Megamind was a mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
* Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
* In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting that Roxanne and Megamind are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just doesn't realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a step back'.

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How the hell did Roxanne manage to place arrange all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Tighten by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did.accident. "Tighten" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Roxanne knows Megamind gave pretty well, so it's not out of the question she knows his mindset well enough to set the paper up the same way. Setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!\\
As for the "accidentally creating Tighten" part, Megamind might have given
the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Tighten' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
* I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus it's exactly the sort of creepy thing he'd do.
* I figured she did it because she knew Megamind was a mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
* Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
* In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting that Roxanne and Megamind are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just doesn't realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a step back'.
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* Well the people of Metro City never really got the chance to prosecute Megamind for the murder of Metro Man prior to the end of the film, did they? Someone else described Megamind's situation at the end of the film as being a lifetime of community service for his past transgressions, and even without the murder of Metro Man, Megamind is still "condemned" to be a hero for the rest of his life by the 88 life sentences he already had, thus the question of prosecuting him for the murder of Metro Man is rather a moot point, something the people of Metro City probably realized and thus didn't bother with either.
* I always assumed that Roxanne made it clear that Metro Man wasn't really dead, but for old time's sake held off from revealing where he really was or what he was really doing. Plus, everyone worshiped the ground the guy flew over and (in some cases literally) kissed his feet when he was juggling babies in mid-air; one suspects that Metro Man would have to do a lot worse to get the people of Metro City to have him arrested and jailed.
* He still committed kidnapping and attempted murder.

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* Well the people of Metro City never really got the chance to prosecute Megamind for the supposed murder of Metro Man prior to in the end of the film, first place, did they? Someone else described Megamind's situation at the end of the film as being a lifetime of community service for his past transgressions, and even without the murder of Metro Man, Megamind is still "condemned" to be a hero for the rest of his life by the 88 life sentences he already had, thus the question of prosecuting him for the murder of Metro Man is rather a moot point, something the people of Metro City probably realized and thus didn't bother with either.
* I always assumed that Roxanne made it clear that Metro Man wasn't really dead, but for old time's sake held off from revealing where he really was or what he was really doing. Plus, everyone worshiped the ground the guy flew over and (in some cases literally) kissed his feet when he was juggling babies in mid-air; one suspects that Metro Man would have to do a lot worse to get the people of Metro City to have him arrested and jailed.
* He still committed kidnapping and attempted murder.



* Hal isn't exactly the smartest or most careful of men; chances are he doesn't really care. Although he might have been about to do the first one when Roxanne distracted him.
* He's not even smart enough to spell Tighten correctly, in fact!

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* Hal isn't exactly the smartest or most careful of men; chances are he doesn't really care. He's not even smart enough to spell Tighten correctly. Although he might have been about to do the first one when Roxanne distracted him.
* He's not even smart enough to spell Tighten correctly, in fact!
him.



Why does Megamind not know what a window is? This troper can understand his mispronunciation of various words and acknowledges that neither his prison nor the evil lair have windows, but surely Megamind has been exposed to other things that have windows, like his old schoolhouse and the invisible car. The animators just took it a little too far with this one.
* Dunno about the car, but he spend most of his time at school in the corner or being bullied by the other kids, so probably didn't have time to learn about windows. I got the feeling that he was only there for a few days tops.
* It's a weak explanation, but when in the car, the scenery is obviously always changing, so Megamind might not think it as any different from his monitors.
* Actually, his evil lair ''does'' have windows, apparently! ([[http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/sizexs/Motherload.png Pic]]) [[HandWave Weak explanation]] again, but maybe he just never had time for them.
* This is ridiculous. A window is such a universal CONCEPT, there is no way a person in a city with access to media will not know what it is.
* [[MST3KMantra It's just a movie, dude; you really should relax]].
* Megamind surely is familiar with windows. After a lifetime spent in prison or breaking into banks and other secure facilities, however, windows ''without bars'' may be a strange idea for him to wrap his head around.
* Another explanation: Perhaps Megamind has a room much like that with a desk and a big chair, but with monitors behind him instead of windows. (And I know plenty of villains have such rooms, like Blofeld from ''Film/JamesBond''.) When he enters the room, he immediately thinks of that room, so the thought that those panels aren't monitors never occurs to him. If this is true, then Minion says they're windows sarcastically. Megamind simply reacts with wonder and amazement, neither confirming nor denying he knows what a window is.
* Megamind's entire personality is theatrical, and I considered this scene just an extension of that. Just like Minion makes a big show of being 'dead', Megamind is making a big show of not knowing what a window is in order to contrast his prison upbringing from Metro Man's mansion; he's basically going "What is this thing, this thing that you call freedom?" in an overly melodramatic fashion.
* I think the idea just above this post is more or less correct. Megamind himself states "I've never had a view before." Meaning he understood what a window was, his had always just been very high up on his lairs and none in his prison cell. It's showing that due to the hand fate dealt him, he's never had a chance to enjoy the things we take for granted.

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Why does Megamind not know what a window is? This troper can understand his mispronunciation of various words and acknowledges that neither his prison nor the evil lair have windows, but surely Megamind has been exposed to other things that have windows, like his old schoolhouse and the invisible car. The animators just took it a little too far with this one.
* Dunno about the car, but he spend most of his time at school in the corner or being bullied by the other kids, so probably didn't have time to learn about windows. I got the feeling that he was only there for a few days tops.
* It's a weak explanation, but when in the car, the scenery is obviously always changing, so Megamind might not think it as any different from his monitors.
* Actually, his evil lair ''does'' have windows, apparently! ([[http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/sizexs/Motherload.png Pic]]) [[HandWave Weak explanation]] again, but maybe he just never had time for them.
* This is ridiculous. A window is such a universal CONCEPT, there is no way a person in a city with access to media will not know what it is.
* [[MST3KMantra It's just a movie, dude; you really should relax]].
is?
* Megamind surely is familiar with windows. After a lifetime spent in prison or breaking into banks and other secure facilities, however, windows ''without bars'' may be a strange idea for him to wrap his head around.
* Another explanation: Perhaps Megamind has a room much like that with a desk and a big chair, but with
around. He does compare the window to the monitors behind him instead of windows. (And I know plenty of villains in his lair, so he might have such rooms, like Blofeld from ''Film/JamesBond''.) When he enters the room, he immediately thinks of that room, so the thought that those panels aren't monitors never occurs to him. If this is true, then Minion says they're windows sarcastically. Megamind simply reacts with wonder found its size and amazement, neither confirming nor denying he knows what a window is.
* Megamind's entire personality is theatrical, and I considered this scene just an extension of that. Just like Minion makes a big show of being 'dead', Megamind is making a big show of not knowing what a window is in order to contrast his prison upbringing from Metro Man's mansion; he's basically going "What is this thing, this thing
the fact that you call freedom?" it's installed in a room meant to be an overly melodramatic fashion.
* I think the idea just above this post is more or less correct. Megamind himself states "I've never had a view before." Meaning he understood what a window was, his had always just been very high up on his lairs and none in his prison cell. It's showing that due to the hand fate dealt him, he's never had a chance to enjoy the things we take for granted.
HQ odd.



When Roxanne meets Megamind in his Bernard disguise after infiltrating his lair, he directs her toward a door marked 'Exit.' Later on in the same scene, we learn that this door actually leads to a sheer drop above a pit full of alligators. So why on Earth did he tell her to go there? Did he forget? Was he planning to kidnap her again or something?
* He probably just wanted to scare her out of his lair. When she did go in there later, he pulled her back out, so he obviously wasn't planning to kill her or anything.
* Possibly because he knew she was on the hunt for some kind of "scheme" and hoped that the stuff behind the Exit door would lead her off the track of what he was really doing?
* The chance of impressing her with a death-trap she'd never seen before, of course! Remember that she'd been completely unimpressed with everything else the last time they met.
* He might have forgotten that that wasn't the actual exit.
* In his Bernard disguise, Megamind offers to take the lead before presenting Roxanne with the idea of investigating the ‘Exit’ door. This suggests that he wasn't sending her to the dangerous doorway on her own.
* Since the option of immediately going to the ‘Exit’ door is discussed, but then the action is never taken, it's uncertain whether Megamind intended to open the door for her and point inside, or exactly what other gestures he would've made upon reaching the door. But, based on the surrounding dialogue, he appears to be making things up on the spot—and not planning much further in advance.
** Example 1: on the phone with Roxanne, he explains away his background noise- throwing accusations at Minion- by telling her that he was “just yelling at [his] mother’s urn.” The pauses in his sentences, and the movements of his eyes, both indicate that he’s forming an explanation without forethought.
** Example 2: when Roxanne asks about his fast arrival, Megamind in his Bernard disguise tells her that he was speed-walking—and, once she questions his choice of attire (suit coat), he assents deliberateness and adds, “It’s called, ‘formal speed-walking.’” The pauses in his sentences, the movements of his eyes, and his exaggerated arm gestures (a speed-walking demonstration), signal his improvisation.
* By RuleOfFunny: Megamind has no reason to point out the door marked 'Exit’ except to generate in-character comedy for the movie audience to enjoy.
** Megamind’s observation- that the ‘Exit’ door looks like an exciting way to go, with ‘Exit’ being short for ‘exciting’- stands independently as a joke. After Roxanne returns to the door with the intent to leave, the original subject of the joke returns comically as a ChekhovsGag. Then, through Roxanne’s cheerful remark that he was “right about that door being exciting,” the movie audience gets a chance to catch up with the BrickJoke.
** On later viewings of the film, the audience might even perceive that the ‘Exit’-for-‘exciting’ comment conveys Megamind’s genuine AcronymConfusion (as another example of his Laconic/PoirotSpeak). This would add yet another layer of humor.


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When Roxanne meets Megamind in his Bernard disguise after infiltrating his lair, he directs her toward a door marked 'Exit.' Later on in the same scene, we learn that this door actually leads to a sheer drop above a pit full of alligators. So why on Earth did he tell her to go there? Did he forget? Was he planning to kidnap her again or something?
forget?
* He probably just wanted to scare her out of his lair. When she did go in there later, he pulled her back out, so he obviously wasn't planning to kill her or anything.
lair.
* Possibly because he He knew she was on the hunt for some kind of "scheme" and hoped that the stuff behind the Exit door would lead her off the track of what he was really doing?
* The chance of impressing her with a death-trap she'd never seen before, of course! Remember that she'd been completely unimpressed with everything else the last time they met.
* He might have forgotten that that wasn't the actual exit.
* In his Bernard disguise, Megamind offers to take the lead before presenting Roxanne with the idea of investigating the ‘Exit’ door. This suggests that he wasn't sending her to the dangerous doorway on her own.
* Since the option of immediately going to the ‘Exit’ door is discussed, but then the action is never taken, it's uncertain whether Megamind intended to open the door for her and point inside, or exactly what other gestures he would've made upon reaching the door. But, based on the surrounding dialogue, he appears to be making things up on the spot—and not planning much further in advance.
** Example 1: on the phone with Roxanne, he explains away his background noise- throwing accusations at Minion- by telling her that he was “just yelling at [his] mother’s urn.” The pauses in his sentences, and the movements of his eyes, both indicate that he’s forming an explanation without forethought.
** Example 2: when Roxanne asks about his fast arrival, Megamind in his Bernard disguise tells her that he was speed-walking—and, once she questions his choice of attire (suit coat), he assents deliberateness and adds, “It’s called, ‘formal speed-walking.’” The pauses in his sentences, the movements of his eyes, and his exaggerated arm gestures (a speed-walking demonstration), signal his improvisation.
* By RuleOfFunny: Megamind has no reason to point out the door marked 'Exit’ except to generate in-character comedy for the movie audience to enjoy.
** Megamind’s observation- that the ‘Exit’ door looks like an exciting way to go, with ‘Exit’ being short for ‘exciting’- stands independently as a joke. After Roxanne returns to the door with the intent to leave, the original subject of the joke returns comically as a ChekhovsGag. Then, through Roxanne’s cheerful remark that he was “right about that door being exciting,” the movie audience gets a chance to catch up with the BrickJoke.
** On later viewings of the film, the audience might even perceive that the ‘Exit’-for-‘exciting’ comment conveys Megamind’s genuine AcronymConfusion (as another example of his Laconic/PoirotSpeak). This would add yet another layer of humor.




Why in the world would the city want Megamind to defeat Tighten? Sure, Tighten's evil, but no more so than Megamind. Especially from the viewpoint of a civilian who knew nothing of the story and Megamind's FaceHeelTurn (some might call it VillainDecay), there is absolutely nothing to cheer about when Megamind defeats Tighten. All they know is they're under the thumb of a far more intelligent tyrant.
* Because Tighten ''was'' more evil than Megamind; from everything we can gather, while Megamind robbed banks, kidnapped a journalist every so often and apparently killed the city's previous hero, Tighten was ''going to destroy the entire city'', something which Megamind had shown no desire or interest in doing. Put simply, the former was definitely being a dick, but the latter was worse by far.
* According to the first news-report on Tighten, "the city has never seen this level of destruction", and the things we are shown do back this up to a degree - after all, Megamind marks his name in the city by painting it with blue paint all over the place, Tighten marks it ''by burning it into the ground with giant letters''. Megamind played darts with cars, Tighten flew around the city burning everything he looked at... the far more intelligent tyrant would seem to be the safer bet.
* When Megamind takes over the city, what does he say? He makes a big theatrical display, proclaims his future reign of informed evil, and then tells everyone to "carry on with the dreary, normal things, normal people do." When Tighten takes over the city, what does he do? "Oh, I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management." Then he ''flicks'' the nearest guy across the road. When Megamind is control, the city carries on with a little bit more paint and some money floating around the downtown corridor; when Tighten is in control, the city ''evacuates''; all those people fleeing the city at the end of the film are people who didn't bother to go anywhere when it was just Megamind they had to worry about, because Megamind just makes a show about being evil, whereas Tighten actually is.
* Better the devil you know? Society as a whole has a short memory, and the way Megamind wasn't actually doing much particularly evil helped.

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Why in the world would the city want Megamind to defeat Tighten? Sure, Tighten's evil, but no more so than Megamind. Especially from the viewpoint of a civilian who knew nothing of the story and they haven't seen Megamind's FaceHeelTurn (some might call it VillainDecay), FaceHeelTurn; there is absolutely nothing to cheer about when Megamind defeats Tighten. All they know is they're just back under the thumb of a far more intelligent tyrant.
* Because Tighten ''was'' more evil than Megamind; from From everything we can gather, while Megamind robbed banks, kidnapped a journalist every so often and apparently killed the city's previous hero, Tighten was ''going to destroy the entire city'', something which Megamind had shown no desire or interest in doing. Put simply, the former was definitely being a dick, but the latter was worse by far.
* According to
far (''ref.'' the first news-report on Tighten, "the city has never seen this level of destruction", and the things we are shown do back this up to a degree - after all, Megamind marks his name in the city by painting it with blue paint all over the place, Tighten marks it ''by burning it into the ground with giant letters''. Megamind played darts with cars, Tighten flew around the city burning everything he looked at... the far more intelligent tyrant would seem to be the safer bet.
destruction").
* When Megamind takes over the city, what does he say? He makes a big theatrical display, proclaims his future reign of informed evil, and then tells everyone to "carry on with the dreary, normal things, normal people do." When Tighten takes over the city, what does he do? "Oh, I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management." Then he ''flicks'' the nearest guy across the road. When Megamind is in control, the city carries on with a little bit more paint and some money floating around the downtown corridor; when Tighten is in control, the city ''evacuates''; all those people fleeing the city at the end of the film are people who didn't bother to go anywhere when it was just Megamind they had to worry about, because Megamind just makes a show about being evil, whereas Tighten actually is.
* Better the devil you know? Society as a whole has a short memory, and the way Megamind wasn't actually doing much particularly evil helped.



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An honest Headscratcher? This movie was trying to reinvent how you thought of "villains" and "heroes", i.e. the real villain in flaming white tights, and the real hero in spiky black leather. But the real villain, Tighten, had an overweight face, crazy hair, and a permanent sneer, while the hero Megamind had huge shiny eyes and... long eyelashes? The point of the movie was to make you see past the book cover, but you can still tell who the good/bad guy is here. If titan was handsome, it would have been amazing.
* I honestly didn't know the movie was trying to reinvent the way you thought of villains and heroes. But I think most people in fandom find Tighten pretty good looking. Hal doesn't look that bad, really, and Megamind is... well... an alien from outer space, you know.
* Megamind also has ''blue skin'' and a ''giant over-sized cranium''. Let's face it; from a human perspective, he's... unconventionally handsome, shall we say.
* This Troper found them both gorgeous.

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An honest Headscratcher? This movie was trying to reinvent how you thought of "villains" and "heroes", i.e.
[[folder:Rivalry]]

Post-movie, isn't
the real villain whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in flaming white tights, and the real hero in spiky black leather. But the real villain, Tighten, had an overweight face, crazy hair, and a permanent sneer, while the hero reverse now that Megamind had huge shiny eyes and... long eyelashes? is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of.
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The point of the movie was to make you see past the book cover, but you can still tell who the good/bad guy is here. If titan was handsome, it would have been amazing.
* I honestly
problem wasn't so much that he didn't know the movie was trying have a superhero to reinvent the way you thought of villains and heroes. But I think most people in fandom find Tighten fight, but that he didn't have ''anyone'' to challenge him, since everyone other than Roxanne pretty good looking. Hal doesn't look that bad, really, much just folded once Metro Man was out of the picture. As a hero, however, there's always going to be crime to fight, and Megamind is... well... an alien from outer space, you know.
* Megamind also has ''blue skin''
he could continue cleaning up the city and a ''giant over-sized cranium''. Let's face it; from a human perspective, he's... unconventionally handsome, shall we say.
* This Troper found them both gorgeous.
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[[folder:Roxanne's plot importance]]

I know it's supposed to be an AffectionateParody of the whole superhero genre, so being kidnapped repeatedly is necessary, but it still bugs be that Roxanne never gets to do anything to affect the plot beyond declare her affections for one character instead of another. The moral of the story seems to be that if you're a guy, you can change the world and you'll get the girl. If you're a girl, you're going to end up with the good guy. I realize they tried to make it seem like she was an empowered character, but honestly? She's only able to face kidnapping calmly because her entire life, that's all she's been useful for.
* Especially when she was seen holding an uprooted street sign. I wanted her to pull a Shizuo.
* It wasn't so much the male aspect as the super-powered one that made the difference, I think. Every non super-powered male got much less done than Roxanne did.
* Also, she went to go talk down Hal when he was smashing up the city, despite the fact she could have been killed. That has to count for affecting the plot.
* Roxanne doesn't actively affect the plot, but she is the catalyst for every major event. She was the one who inspired Megamind out of his funk. She was the one who later caused him to give a damn about other people. It was because of her both Megamind and Tighten later went on a rampage. She was the one who again inspired Megamind to take on the hero role. She may not have changed anything herself, but if it wasn't for her, nothing would have changed.
* Okay, you're going up against people with ultra-superpowers. They're like gods. Tick them off and they'll snap you like a twig, no matter how much you maximize your natural physical strength--and you haven't done so, because you're not an athlete, you're a news anchor. [[GuileHero All you have is your ability to persuade.]] So what do you do?
** Point out where the Invisible Car is in the nick of time, maybe?

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I know it's
[[folder:Ocean inside a bigger ocean]]

So what does Roxanne mean by "his heart is an ocean inside a bigger ocean" in her Metro Man speech anyway?
* It's
supposed to be an AffectionateParody of convey the whole superhero genre, so being kidnapped repeatedly is necessary, but it still bugs be that Roxanne never gets to do anything to affect the plot beyond declare her affections for one character instead idea of another. The moral of the story seems to be that if you're a guy, you can change the world vastness and you'll get the girl. If you're a girl, you're going to end up with the good guy. I realize they tried to make it seem like she was an empowered character, but honestly? She's only able to face kidnapping calmly because her entire life, that's all she's been useful for.
* Especially when she was seen holding an uprooted street sign. I wanted her to pull a Shizuo.
* It wasn't so much the male aspect as the super-powered one that made the difference, I think. Every non super-powered male got much less done than Roxanne did.
* Also, she went to go talk down Hal when he was smashing up the city, despite the fact she could have been killed. That has to count for affecting the plot.
* Roxanne doesn't actively affect the plot, but she is the catalyst for every major event. She was the one who inspired Megamind out of his funk. She was the one who later caused him to give a damn about other people. It was because of her both Megamind
infinity; essentially saying Metro Man's kindness and Tighten later went on a rampage. She was the one who again inspired Megamind to take on the hero role. She may not have changed anything herself, but if it wasn't for her, nothing would have changed.
* Okay, you're going up against people with ultra-superpowers. They're like gods. Tick them off and they'll snap you like a twig, no matter how much you maximize your natural physical strength--and you haven't done so, because you're not an athlete, you're a news anchor. [[GuileHero All you have
goodness is your ability to persuade.]] So what do you do?
** Point out where the Invisible Car is in the nick of time, maybe?
limitless.



[[folder:Rivalry]]

Post-movie, isn't the whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in reverse now that Megamind is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of, and I can't see him deciding to create his own villain after what happened with Tighten.
* I could see him going the Vetinari route and putting all of his effort into making the city ''work''.
* I think the problem wasn't so much that he didn't have a superhero to fight, but that he didn't have ''anyone'' to challenge him, since everyone other than Roxanne pretty much just folded once Metro Man was out of the picture (the cops and city government all surrendered and no one else was willing to take a stand against him). As a superhero, however, there's always going to be crime to fight, even if it's not quite super-villainy (and there's always a good chance that some super-villains might show up to challenge the city's new hero independently of Megamind's interference). At very least, he's not going to get bored.
* Presumably there ''are'' other supervillains in this Verse, as Megamind can't be keeping that mail-order company in Romania in business all by himself.
* Alternatively, he could be bemoaning a lack of worthy supervillains and feeling the urge to go back his old ways in the sequel (probably on the basis that the villains he fights lack the class and showmanship he had). I will be very surprised if there isn't one.
* The game actually has him fight new villains, but that might not be canon. On the other hand, Megamind very likely swore off any plans for making new villans and settled for the better safe than sorry route by nabbing generic criminals.

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[[folder:Rivalry]]

Post-movie, isn't
[[folder:Hal and the whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in reverse now that Megamind is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of, and I can't see him deciding to create his own villain after what happened with Tighten.
* I could see him going the Vetinari route and putting all of his effort into making the city ''work''.
* I think the problem wasn't so much that he didn't have a superhero to fight, but that he didn't have ''anyone'' to challenge him, since everyone other than Roxanne pretty much just folded once Metro Man was out of the picture (the cops and city government all surrendered and no one else was willing to take a stand against him). As a superhero, however, there's always going
cell]]

Did Hal really deserve
to be crime to fight, even if it's not quite super-villainy (and there's always a good chance that some super-villains might show up to challenge the city's new hero independently of put in Megamind's interference). At very least, super max prison cell after he was defeated? The guy doesn't even have a life, and he's not going very much harmless without Metro Man's powers. The least they could have done was give him some community service, right?
* Given how much of the city he destroyed the police probably wouldn't trust him back on the streets even in his current state.
* It might also be for Hal's own protection. After all, he very publicly called out Megamind, did his level best
to get bored.
* Presumably there ''are'' other supervillains
kill him, failed, and got locked up in this Verse, as prison. The same prison Megamind can't be keeping that mail-order company in Romania in business all was raised in. Where he's considered family by himself.
* Alternatively, he could be bemoaning a lack of worthy supervillains and feeling
the urge to go back his old ways in the sequel (probably on the basis that the villains he fights lack the class and showmanship he had). I will be very surprised if there isn't one.
* The game actually has him fight new villains, but that might not be canon. On the other hand, Megamind very likely swore off any plans for making new villans and settled for the better safe than sorry route by nabbing generic criminals.
inmates. And now Hal's stuck there. Alone. ''With no powers.''



[[folder:Ocean inside a bigger ocean]]

So what does Roxanne mean by "his heart is an ocean inside a bigger ocean" in her Metro Man speech anyway?
* It's one of those cheesy metaphors, you know. Just like the ones Metro Man and Megamind traded back and forth without making much sense.
* This troper thought it was a clumsy ''Titanic'' reference on Roxy's part.

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[[folder:Ocean inside a bigger ocean]]

So what does Roxanne mean by "his heart is an ocean inside a bigger ocean" in her Metro Man speech anyway?
* It's one of those cheesy metaphors, you know. Just like
[[folder:Infusion/defusion gun]]

Where did
the ones Metro Man and infusion/defusion gun go after Megamind traded back used it to remove Tighten's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There is a wide shot after that, and forth without making much sense.
* This troper thought
the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there).
* Possibly Megamind dropped it in the fountain to short out its mechanism and render it inoperable, because he'd realized that giving ''anybody'' Metro Man's powers
was a clumsy ''Titanic'' reference on Roxy's part.
bad idea.



[[folder:Hal and the cell]]

Did Hal really deserve to be put in Megamind's special prison cell after he was defeated? I mean, the guy doesn't even have a life, and he's very much harmless without Metro Man's powers. The least they could have done was give him some community service, right?
* According to the news-reports, he caused more destruction during his rampage through the city than Megamind had ever done - and that was before he burned "Tightenville" into the city. They're probably not going to give him community service for a while.
* They live in a comic book universe and seem at least dimly aware of this, when did a de-powered Super-Villain ever ''not'' get re-powered at some point. Super-powers are kinda like cancer, you might beat it into remission for a while, but it always comes back.
* Community Service? He is responsible for the death of at least one person (there is no way the guy driving the gas truck that tipped over and exploded survived). That's worth at least one life sentence. And with his wanton reign of destruction, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more off-screen casualties.
* This troper always thought it was for Hal's own protection. After all, he very publicly called out Megamind, did his level best to kill him, failed, and got locked up in prison. The same prison Megamind was raised in. Where he's considered family by the inmates. And now Hal's stuck there. Alone. ''With no powers.''
** ^This. I love this. You, sir, are a delightfully evil genius.
* You get punished for what you ''did'', not based on what you can do in the future. If you shoot and kill someone with a gun, you don't get a lighter sentence on the basis of, "Well, you guys took my gun away so I can't do that again."

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[[folder:Hal [[folder:Prison and technology]]

Why did
the cell]]

Did Hal really deserve to be put in Megamind's special
prison cell after he was defeated? I mean, the guy doesn't even have a life, and he's very much harmless without Metro Man's powers. The least they could have done was give him some community service, right?
* According to the news-reports, he caused more destruction during his rampage through the city than
allow Megamind had ever done - access to a television and that was before he burned "Tightenville" into the city. They're a remote control, given his proven facility with technology?
* Because a bored Megamind is
probably not going to give him community service for a while.
* They live in a comic book universe and seem at least dimly aware of this, when did a de-powered Super-Villain ever ''not'' get re-powered at some point. Super-powers are kinda like cancer, you might beat it
worse than one lulled into remission for a while, but it always comes back.
* Community Service? He is responsible for the death of at least one person (there is no way the guy driving the gas truck that tipped over and exploded survived). That's worth at least one life sentence. And with his wanton reign of destruction, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more off-screen casualties.
* This troper always thought it was for Hal's own protection. After all, he very publicly called out Megamind, did his level best to kill him, failed, and got locked up in prison. The same prison Megamind was raised in. Where he's considered family
complacency by the inmates. And now Hal's stuck there. Alone. ''With no powers.''
** ^This. I love this. You, sir, are a delightfully evil genius.
* You get punished for what you ''did'', not based on what you can do in the future. If you shoot and kill someone with a gun, you don't get a lighter sentence on the basis of, "Well, you guys took my gun away so I can't do that again."
channel surfing?



[[folder:Infusion/defusion gun]]

Where did the infusion/defusion gun go after Megamind used it to remove Tighten's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There is a wide shot after that, and the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there). If Megamind had simply dropped the gun into the fountain it might not be visible in the wide shot. But that would be careless (to say the least), given that the gun, in its charged state, could be used to give Metro Man's powers to someone else, potentially creating another problem like the one Megamind and Roxanne just spent a third of the movie solving.
* Where it went, I have no idea. But I was under the impression that the gun could only give powers when it was loaded with that, for lack of a real term, glowing yellow bolt thing. He did say he'd only have one shot at it, so presumably now that the powers had already been given he'd have to make another bolt before the gun could give powers to anyone else.
* Possibly Megamind ''deliberately'' dropped it in the fountain to short out its mechanism and render it inoperable, because he'd realized that giving ''anybody'' Metro Man's powers was a bad idea.
* Regarding, "''the depowered Hal is also oddly not there''"--upon multiple viewings of the movie, one can find that he's actually shown at the very beginning of the shot. Hal is clearest to view by pausing the film- right after Minion's "''We did it!''" and right before Megamind turns to Roxanne, laughing, to add, "''Fist pump!''"- with Hal's face bowed while two police officers' backs are shown (presumably readying him for jail).

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[[folder:Infusion/defusion gun]]

Where did the infusion/defusion gun go after
[[folder:Kisser]]

For being socially awkward,
Megamind used it to remove Tighten's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There sure is a wide shot after that, and the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put good kisser. Is it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there). If Megamind had simply dropped the gun into the fountain it might not be visible in the wide shot. But that would be careless (to say the least), given that the gun, in its charged state, could be used to give Metro Man's powers to someone else, potentially creating another problem like the one Megamind and Roxanne just spent a third of the movie solving.
* Where it went, I have no idea. But I was under the impression that the gun could only give powers when it was loaded with that, for lack of a real term, glowing yellow bolt thing. He did say he'd only have one shot at it, so presumably now that the powers had already been given he'd have to make another bolt before the gun could give powers to anyone else.
* Possibly Megamind ''deliberately'' dropped it in the fountain to short out its mechanism and render it inoperable,
because he'd realized of his species? Or did he learn on his own?
* Pillows. That is all
that giving ''anybody'' Metro Man's powers was a bad idea.
* Regarding, "''the depowered Hal is also oddly not there''"--upon multiple viewings of the movie, one can find that he's actually shown at the very beginning of the shot. Hal is clearest to view by pausing the film- right after Minion's "''We did it!''" and right before Megamind turns to Roxanne, laughing, to add, "''Fist pump!''"- with Hal's face bowed while two police officers' backs are shown (presumably readying him for jail).
will be said.



[[folder:Prison and technology]]

Why did the prison allow Megamind access to a television and a remote control, given his proven facility with technology?
* Because a bored Megamind is probably worse than one lulled into complacency by channel surfing?

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[[folder:Prison and technology]]

Why did the prison allow
[[folder:Unpunished]]

Megamind access was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose his own reign. He '''created''' the very Tighten problem he eventually had to solve. So why, when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a television hero, and a remote control, given his proven facility with technology?
let him go unpunished?
* Because a bored What are them going to do? Megamind has pretty much proven that, except for Metro Man, no one else can do anything against him. Even going to jail is probably worse more of a voluntary thing ("I'm going home") than one lulled into complacency by channel surfing?
a real punishment (Not to mention he can get out any time he wants). The citizens cheering for him right after Tighten is defeated is likely more happiness that, well, Tighten is defeated rather than it being for Megamind in particular.
* We don't know how much time has passed between Megamind saving the day and his museum opening at the end; it could have been long enough for him to prove himself more than he had just at the end.
* Consider also, Megamind had ''expected to die'' when he confronted Tighten and was willing to do so. For all Metro Man's popularity, ''he'' was never actually in danger when performing his past feats of heroism; realizing that the guy who'd made a career out of getting his butt kicked was ''still'' willing to stand up to a genuinely-lethal opponent may have made a lot of folks reassess their opinion of him.



[[folder:Throw it in]]

Just confused over the ThrowItIn lines. Megamind's mispronunciation of words is what gives him away as the fake!Metro Man, so what was their excuse for the climax if Will Ferrel didn't think of it, I wonder...
* Probably something along the lines of the disguise watch getting damaged or accidentally shut off
* "Metrocity" was in the script, Will Ferrel made the decision to mispronounce all the other words.
* The DVD commentary specifically says that Ferrell himself came up with the "Metrocity" pronunciation. I would ASSUME he did it very early, perhaps in the test readings for casting. At such an early stage it would be quite easy to integrate that into the plot to replace whatever other reason they had for Tighten figuring out he had been played. Script changes happen frequently, even in animated films.
* Generally, the script for an animated film is completed before most of the major animation work, because if it were the other way around, the animated mouths might not sync up to the voice acting. There was likely no work done that was too valuable to redo if/when Will Ferrel gave them the idea to use that.
* The DVD commentary also mentions that they reflected his lack of formal education. Assuming he dropped out of school once he decided to become a villain, he probably had only read many words and had never heard them pronounced.

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[[folder:Throw it in]]

Just confused
[[folder:Space-stepmom]]

Tighten is pretty dumb, but shouldn't he have recognized his Space-Stepmom? Hal had to know who/what Minion was - after all Minion marched on up to City Hall and fumbled with a boombox in front of everyone as Megamind took
over the ThrowItIn lines. Megamind's mispronunciation of words is what gives him away as the fake!Metro Man, so what city. Hal was their excuse for the climax if Will Ferrel didn't think of it, I wonder...
* Probably something along the lines of the disguise watch getting damaged or accidentally shut off
* "Metrocity" was in the script, Will Ferrel made the decision
on hand filming this. It seems to mispronounce all the other words.
* The DVD commentary specifically says
me that Ferrell himself came up with the "Metrocity" pronunciation. I would ASSUME a wig and an apron wouldn't be enough to hide a fish driving a robotic gorilla suit - even from Hal.
* Maybe
he did it very early, perhaps in the test readings for casting. At such an early stage it would be quite easy to integrate assumed that into Minion's species was common throughout the plot universe, as HumanAliens seem to replace whatever other reason they had for Tighten figuring out he had been played. Script changes happen frequently, even in animated films.
* Generally, the script for an animated film is completed before most of the major animation work, because if it were the other way around, the animated mouths might not sync up to the voice acting. There was likely no work done that was too valuable to redo if/when Will Ferrel gave them the idea to use that.
* The DVD commentary also mentions that they reflected his lack of formal education. Assuming he dropped out of school once he decided to become a villain, he probably had only read many words and had never heard them pronounced.
be.



[[folder:Kisser]]

For being socially awkward, Megamind sure is a good kisser. Is it because of his species? Or did he learn on his own? I would expect more awkwardness from him, but that may have lessened the impact of the TearJerker to come.
* As one who had a youth filled with social awkwardness himself, I can tell you from personal experience: He practiced on his pillow.

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[[folder:Kisser]]

For being socially awkward,
[[folder:Frequent kidnapping card]]

Why did
Megamind sure is a good kisser. Is it because of his species? Or did he learn on his own? I discontinue the frequent kidnapping card? What would expect more awkwardness from him, be the reward for filling a card?
* It was just their own version of witty banter. She was just being sarcastic,
but Megamind really likes that may have lessened the impact sort of the TearJerker to come.
* As one who had a youth filled
thing and just went along with social awkwardness himself, I can tell you from personal experience: He practiced on his pillow.
it.



[[folder:Unpunished]]

Megamind was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose his own reign. He '''created''' the very Tighten problem he eventually had to solve. So why, when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a hero, and let him go unpunished?
* What are them going to do? Megamind has pretty much proven that, except for Metro Man, no one else can do anything against him. Even going to jail is more of a voluntary thing ("I'm going home") than a real punishment (Not to mention he can get out any time he wants). The heat of the moment made the citizens cheer for him, and is probably that they later realized that it's better to have Megamind inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.
* It's also worth noting that we don't know how much time has passed between Megamind saving the day and his museum opening at the end; it could have been long enough for him to prove himself more than he had just at the end.
* It could be the Commander Shepard Effect, someone with a lot of authority realizes that he can do waaaaay more good out here than in there, and whenever an uppity subordinate wants to throw the book around the authority squelches the subordinate with a simple "Permission Denied."
* Not to mention the simple fact that, when the chips were down, Megamind had honestly ''expected to die'' when he confronted Tighten. For all Metro Man's popularity, ''he'' was never actually in danger when performing his past feats of heroism; realizing that the guy who'd made a career out of getting his butt kicked was ''still'' willing to stand up to a genuinely-lethal opponent may have made a lot of folks re-assess which of those old rivals had actually been brave. Certainly seeing how destructive Metro Man's powers could be in Hal's hands probably drove home just how overmatched Megamind had been, for all those years, and people are more forgiving of underdogs.
* Prison is meant to rehabilitate criminals. Megamind probably got a special parole hearing to verify that he has in fact been rehabilitated and was subsequently released.
* Also, if looked at another way, what Megamind is doing is essentially community service. He's rebuilding the city, participating in what could be described as a local community watch and improvement program... essentially, in light of his actions his sentence was reviewed and amended in order to reflect changing circumstances.

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[[folder:Unpunished]]

[[folder:Spikes]]

Why was Hal uninjured when he fell over the spikes on the invisible car? You can see the spikes on the hood in the beginning when
Megamind was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose first arrives at his own reign. He '''created''' the very Tighten problem he eventually had lair, yet later Hal rolls directly where these spikes are shown to solve. So why, be when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a hero, and let him go unpunished?
car is visible.
* What Those spikes are them going to do? Megamind has pretty much proven that, except for Metro Man, no one else can do anything against him. Even going to jail is more of a voluntary thing ("I'm going home") than a real punishment (Not to mention he can get out any time he wants). The heat of the moment made the citizens cheer for him, and is probably made of some soft, lightweight material to avoid injuries like that they later realized that it's better and to have Megamind inside keep the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.
* It's also worth noting that we don't know how much time has passed between Megamind saving the day and his museum opening at the end; it could have been long enough for him to prove himself more than he had just at the end.
* It could be the Commander Shepard Effect, someone with a lot of authority realizes that he can do waaaaay more good out here than in there, and whenever an uppity subordinate wants to throw the book around the authority squelches the subordinate with a simple "Permission Denied."
* Not to mention the simple fact
car from being weighed down. Either that, when the chips were down, Megamind had honestly ''expected to die'' when he confronted Tighten. For all Metro Man's popularity, ''he'' was never actually in danger when performing his past feats of heroism; realizing that the guy who'd made a career out of getting his butt kicked was ''still'' willing to stand up to a genuinely-lethal opponent may have made a lot of folks re-assess which of those old rivals had actually been brave. Certainly seeing how destructive Metro Man's powers could be in Hal's hands probably drove home just how overmatched Megamind had been, for all those years, and people are more forgiving of underdogs.
* Prison is meant to rehabilitate criminals. Megamind probably got a special parole hearing to verify that he has in fact been rehabilitated and was subsequently released.
* Also, if looked at another way, what Megamind is doing is essentially community service. He's rebuilding the city, participating in what could be described as a local community watch and improvement program... essentially, in light of his actions his sentence was reviewed and amended in order to reflect changing circumstances.
or they're retractable.



[[folder:Space-stepmom]]

I realize Tighten is pretty dumb, but shouldn't he have recognized his Space-Stepmom? Hal had to know who/what Minion was - after all Minion marched on up to City Hall and fumbled with a boombox in front of everyone as Megamind took over the city. Hal was on hand filming this. It seems to me that a wig and an apron wouldn't be enough to hide a fish driving a robotic gorilla suit - even from Hal.
* RuleOfFunny. Hal's just that stupid and unobservant.
* Maybe he assumed that Minion's species was common throughout the universe, as [[HumanAliens human aliens]] seem to be.
* [[InsaneTrollLogic Well,]] [[VoodooShark she's had some work done.]]

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[[folder:Space-stepmom]]

I realize Tighten is pretty dumb, but shouldn't he have recognized his Space-Stepmom? Hal had to know who/what Minion was - after all Minion marched on up to City Hall and fumbled with a boombox in front of everyone as
[[folder:Sentence]]

Is there any reason why the jail gave
Megamind took over the city. Hal was on hand filming this. a sentence of several thousand years? It seems to me is unlikely that a wig and an apron wouldn't be enough to hide a fish driving a robotic gorilla suit - Megamind will even from Hal.
be able to live out the entirety of his prison sentence. Heck, the prison would likely crumble to dust long before the several thousand years were up, along with possibly the civilization and government that handed out the sentence.
* RuleOfFunny. Hal's There are real life cases of people getting as many as ''300'' life sentences. The purpose of this is so that if they get their sentence reduced, they'll still spend their entire life in jail. It's just that stupid a measurement of how abhorrent society views the crime and unobservant.
* Maybe he assumed that Minion's species was common throughout
to give the universe, as [[HumanAliens human aliens]] seem to be.
* [[InsaneTrollLogic Well,]] [[VoodooShark she's had some work done.]]
victims closure.



[[folder:Frequent kidnapping card]]

Why did Megamind discontinue the frequent kidnapping card? What was the reward for filling a card?
* One kidnapping ABSOLUTELY FREE!
* Presumably there wouldn't be many businesses willing to align with a supervillain to provide discounted goods for the subject of his kidnappings -- particularly if, as was apparently, the case, it was just one victim.
* But Roxanne was a well-known and popular public figure. Wouldn't local businesses want to be known as being patronized by such a celebrity? In New York, for example, many businesses will put up signed photographs of celebrities who have patronized the business in the past. So wouldn't Metro City businesses want to participate in this promotion?
* They'd want to be patronized and associated with Roxanne by herself, not Megamind -- who would be the one running the promotion, not Roxanne. There's a difference between putting a celebrity's photo on a wall if they frequent your establishment and aligning with a supervillain to offering people discounts based on whether or not they get held hostage by said supervillain frequently. A business participating in a 'frequent kidnapping card' is basically telling it's customers "shop here, and there's a good chance you'll be kidnapped by a supervillain" -- not exactly a marketable slogan.
* I'd always assumed that it was their own version of witty banter, actually. She was just being sarcastic, but Megamind really likes that sort of thing and just went along with it.
* A frequent kidnapping program can be pretty useful viz. perhaps it gives 10% off for post-kidnaps therapy, maintains non-traceable toll-free lines to more easily relay kidnapping threats or demands, keeps and receipts extensive documentation on each kidnapping for tax relief purposes, and provides additional insurance coverage for collateral damages caused during actual kidnaps (with premiums supported by a cut of ransom payments), etc. Unfortunately, Megamind was forced to end it when it did not achieve its marketing goal i.e., the program failed to result in an increase of the number of people offering themselves to be kidnapped.

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[[folder:Frequent kidnapping card]]

Why did
[[folder:Government]]

Where is the American Government in this whole debacle? Don't they feel worried that
Megamind discontinue the frequent kidnapping card? What was the reward for filling a card?
* One kidnapping ABSOLUTELY FREE!
* Presumably there wouldn't be many businesses willing to align with a supervillain to provide discounted goods for the subject of his kidnappings -- particularly if, as was apparently, the case, it was
just one victim.
* But Roxanne was
took over a well-known prosperous city and popular public figure. Wouldn't local businesses want might do the same to be known as being patronized by another? Do they think that he is just such a celebrity? In New York, for example, many businesses will put up signed photographs of celebrities who have patronized the business in the past. So wouldn't Metro City businesses want an ineffectual villain that he won't present any problems to participate in this promotion?
* They'd want to be patronized and associated with Roxanne by herself, not
national security? Did Megamind -- who would be the one running the promotion, not Roxanne. There's make a difference between putting a celebrity's photo on a wall if they frequent your establishment and aligning deal with the government? This bugged me a supervillain to offering people discounts based on whether or not they get held hostage by said supervillain frequently. A business participating in a 'frequent kidnapping card' is basically telling it's customers "shop here, and there's a good chance you'll be kidnapped by a supervillain" -- not exactly a marketable slogan.
little bit.
* I'd always assumed that it Odds are the government was their own version of witty banter, actually. She was rather cautious about attacking a diabolical mastermind who'd just being sarcastic, but defeated the greatest hero in the world.
* Perhaps the government has kept tabs on the Metro Man /
Megamind really likes dynamic and realized that sort of thing and just went along with it.
* A frequent kidnapping program can be pretty useful viz. perhaps it gives 10% off for post-kidnaps therapy, maintains non-traceable toll-free lines to more easily relay kidnapping threats or demands, keeps and receipts extensive documentation on each kidnapping for tax relief purposes, and provides additional insurance coverage for collateral damages caused during actual kidnaps (with premiums supported by a cut of ransom payments), etc. Unfortunately,
Megamind himself was forced to end it when it ineffectual and more focused on the spectacle than the actual crime. If there was any escalation, they probably would step in, but Megamind's plans did not achieve its marketing goal i.e., change much and eventually got bored and turned to sprucing up the program failed to result in an increase of the number of people offering themselves to be kidnapped.
town instead (Roxie's suggestion, but still).



[[folder:Spikes]]

Why was Hal uninjured when he fell over the spikes on the invisible car? You can see the spikes on the hood in the beginning when Megamind first arrives at his lair, yet later Hal rolls directly where these spikes are shown to be when the car is visible.
* Those spikes are probably made of some soft, lightweight material to avoid injuries like that and to keep the car from being weighed down.
* Or they're retractable.

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[[folder:Spikes]]

Why was Hal uninjured when he fell over
[[folder:Government, part II]]

Related to
the spikes on the invisible car? You can see the spikes on the hood in the beginning when above, since Megamind first arrives at his lair, yet later Hal rolls directly where these spikes are shown to be when the car is visible.
* Those spikes are probably made of some soft, lightweight material to avoid injuries
obviously bored without any opposition. How about just declare war on someone like the entire America? Hopefully their military response could keep him entertained. It worked for Doctor Doom.
* Nothing we see of Megamind indicates he has any interest in ''actually'' harming anyone, or
that and he'd declare "war" on anyone. What he wants is to keep the car from being weighed down.
* Or they're retractable.
fight a hero.



[[folder:Sentence]]

Is there any reason why the jail gave Megamind a sentence of several thousand years? First of all it is unlikely that Megamind will even be able to live out the entirety of his prison sentence (unless somehow his alien species has a life-span that long). Secondly the prison would corrode long before the several thousand years were up. Lastly how was there any way that the prison system knows for a fact that their society will even still exist that long into the future? Was that prison sentence meant to be taken seriously or is it just RuleOfFunny?
* Of ''course'' it's a joke.
* The sentence was serious, they didn't know how long he'd live and wanted to make sure. If the prison did degrade he would be transferred to another prison. It's doubtful that they would let the expected term of existence of their society play into it.
* Also, there are real life cases of people getting as many as ''300'' life sentences. The purpose of this is so that if they get their sentence reduced, they'll still spend their entire life in jail.
* Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if you are given two different sentences of jail time, you ''must'' complete the initial sentence before you can get any time off or anything, which only applies to the last sentence. I seem to recall reading a story where a judge gave a man life in prison for a triple homicide, and then separately, gave him 30 days for shoplifting that occurred later that night, just to make sure he'd never be free. It seems like anything beyond two life sentences is just a waste of everyone's time.
* Not really; handing down a few extra life sentences doesn't waste any time at all. It's not like assigning three-hundred life sentences takes any longer than assigning two life sentences, and the prisoner isn't going to be able to serve two life sentences any more than three-hundred. It's just a measurement of how abhorrent society views the crime; one life sentence means you did something very bad, two life sentences mean you did something very ''very'' bad, and three-hundred means bloody hell, you're off the charts there son.
* Moreover, the RealLife justice system doesn't stop prosecuting people for crimes just because they aren't expected to live long enough to serve out their existing sentence. Charging an already-incarcerated offender with additional crimes is necessary to close the books on those cases, and to ensure that those additional crimes' victims have their grievances heard in a court of law.

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[[folder:Sentence]]

Is there any reason why the jail gave Megamind a sentence of several thousand years? First of all it is unlikely
[[folder:Hal's accomplishments]]

The part where Minion says
that Megamind will Hal has no records he includes the line, "He has accomplished nothing." True, he's a cameraman. But in this day and age even be able to live out the entirety of his prison sentence (unless somehow his alien species has a life-span that long). Secondly the prison would corrode long before the several thousand years were up. Lastly how was there any way that the prison system knows cameraman for a fact that their society will even still exist that long into TV network requires going to college, especially if the future? Was that prison sentence meant network in question is a major TV news broadcast.
* Unfortunately, in this day and age going
to be taken seriously or college is it just RuleOfFunny?
* Of ''course''
genuinely not an achievement anymore - it's a joke.
* The sentence was serious, they didn't
like boasting you completed high school. Given what we know how long he'd live and wanted to make sure. If the prison did degrade he would about him, it can be transferred to another prison. It's doubtful safely assumed that they would let the expected term of existence of their society play into it.
* Also, there are real life cases of people getting as many as ''300'' life sentences. The purpose of this is so that if they get their sentence reduced, they'll still spend their entire life in jail.
* Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if you are given two different sentences of jail time, you ''must'' complete the initial sentence before you can get any time off or anything, which only applies
he most likely got below-average to the last sentence. I seem to recall reading a story where a judge gave a man life in prison for a triple homicide, average grades at school and then separately, gave him 30 days for shoplifting that occurred later that night, just to make sure he'd never be free. It seems like anything beyond two life sentences is just a waste of everyone's time.
* Not really; handing down a few extra life sentences doesn't waste any time at all. It's not like assigning three-hundred life sentences takes any longer than assigning two life sentences, and the prisoner
college, isn't going ''that'' great at his job and most likely hasn't excelled in any significant way or done anything of any particular note with his life. Generally, landing a decent job and gaining sufficient qualifications to enable you to do so isn't really considered to be able to serve two life sentences any more than three-hundred. It's just a measurement of how abhorrent exceptional, since that's pretty much the minimum that society views expects of a functional member of society. And while a job in the crime; one life sentence means you did media isn't exactly something very bad, two life sentences mean you did something very ''very'' bad, and three-hundred means bloody hell, you're off to sniff at, who really pays attention to the charts there son.
* Moreover, the RealLife justice system doesn't stop prosecuting people for crimes just because they aren't expected to live long enough to serve out their existing sentence. Charging an already-incarcerated offender with additional crimes is necessary to close the books on those cases, and to ensure that those additional crimes' victims have their grievances heard in a court of law.
cameraperson?



[[folder:Super Roxanne]]

Anybody else get the feeling that Megamind would have gotten the Super Hero he'd wanted, if he'd been a little more equal-opportunity and gone for a Super-Heroine in Roxanne? The first time I watched the movie, I thought for sure he'd pick her for the job. And she would have been AWESOME.
* Well, yes. But there's no real headscratcher in it: yes, she would have been awesome, but it would have been a drastically different story (no need for Megamind to turn good if his attempt to create a proper superhero to oppose him ''works perfectly'').
* I'm not so sure that having Roxanne with powers would really be what Megamind wanted. Sure she'd have all the prerequisites but would super!Roxanne be willing to play the game like Metro Man did? Also how would he start the rounds since his hostage would now be nigh invulnerable and kicking his ass. No, Roxanne as the next hero of Metro City would have been the worst possible thing ever for Megamind
* Hey, a hero doesn't need to be great friends with somebody to rescue them if they're kidnapped by a nemesis. Megamind might have had to find a new person to be his hostage. Like Hal. But it's pretty obvious that Megamind doesn't handle change all that well. Maybe that's why he overlooked Roxanne. Plus, she would have looked really HOT in a female version of the Tighten suit.
* It also seems to be pretty clearly implied that Megamind is in love with Roxanne throughout the movie and kidnapping her is his warped and maladjusted way of showing it and getting to spend time with her. After all, when she's tied to a chair in front of one of his devices it's a perfect opportunity to show off for her, do a bit of gloating etc -- in essence, it's his version of going on a 'date' with her, while the dynamic with Metro Man is more like two performers staging a show for the crowds. Although in ''theory'' Roxanne would be a better candidate for being a better superhero, in ''practice'' this would throw the whole dynamic out of whack, and he wouldn't really be able to spend time with Roxanne the way he had previously since they'd be too busy fighting. In essence, he's letting his feelings for her get in the way.
* Moreover, while he might enjoy ''abducting'' Roxanne and tries like hell to impress her with his deathtraps, making her his new superhero-nemesis would mean he'd have to start plotting ways to '''hurt''' her. Given that he believes he just killed the invulnerable Metro Man ''by accident'', he's hardly going to risk fighting the woman he loves under the same circumstances: for all he knows, copper wasn't Metro Man's ''only'' vulnerability, and if he chanced upon another WeaksauceWeakness, he could kill her too.
* Megamind gave superpowers to the cameraman on accident. He didn't get a chance to yet decide who he would give the powers to. Who knows? Maybe if he had more time to think about it, he would've given the powers to Roxanne.
* Simple really, Roxanne is the kidnap victim, it's part of the dynamic.

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[[folder:Super Roxanne]]

Anybody else get
[[folder:Different Megaminds]]

So if
the feeling that Megamind would have gotten on the Super Hero he'd wanted, if he'd been a little more equal-opportunity and gone for a Super-Heroine in Roxanne? The first time I watched hoverbike was Minion, how did the movie, I thought for sure he'd pick her for the job. And she would have been AWESOME.
* Well, yes. But there's no real headscratcher in it: yes, she would have been awesome, but it would have been a drastically different story (no need for
dehydrator gun (used to free Roxy) get back to Megamind (used to turn good if save himself from his attempt to create a proper superhero to oppose him ''works perfectly'').
* I'm not
fall)? It's made from his binky, so sure that having Roxanne with powers would really be what it seems doubtful he has a second one.
* He has more than one dehydrator, specifically during the scene where he and minion are "cleaning up the streets",
Megamind wanted. Sure she'd have all the prerequisites but would super!Roxanne be willing to play the game like Metro Man did? Also how would he start the rounds since his hostage would now be nigh invulnerable and kicking his ass. No, Roxanne as the next hero of Metro City would have been the worst possible thing ever for Megamind
* Hey,
has a hero doesn't need to be great friends with somebody to rescue them if they're kidnapped by a nemesis. Megamind might have had to find a new person to be his hostage. Like Hal. But it's pretty obvious that Megamind doesn't handle change all that well. Maybe that's why he overlooked Roxanne. Plus, she would have looked really HOT in a female version of the Tighten suit.
* It also seems to be pretty clearly implied that Megamind is in love with Roxanne throughout the movie and kidnapping her is his warped and maladjusted way of showing it and getting to spend time with her. After all, when she's tied to a chair in front of one of his devices it's a perfect opportunity to show off for her, do a bit of gloating etc -- in essence, it's his version of going on a 'date' with her, while the dynamic with Metro Man is more like two performers staging a show for the crowds. Although in ''theory'' Roxanne would be a better candidate for being a better superhero, in ''practice'' this would throw the whole dynamic out of whack, and he wouldn't really be able to spend time with Roxanne the way he had previously since they'd be too busy fighting. In essence, he's letting his feelings for her get in the way.
* Moreover, while he might enjoy ''abducting'' Roxanne and tries like hell to impress her with his deathtraps, making her his new superhero-nemesis would mean he'd have to start plotting ways to '''hurt''' her. Given that he believes he just killed the invulnerable Metro Man ''by accident'', he's hardly going to risk fighting the woman he loves under the same circumstances: for all he knows, copper wasn't Metro Man's ''only'' vulnerability, and
walker-mounted dehydrator. So if he chanced upon built another WeaksauceWeakness, one for that machine, he could kill her too.
* Megamind gave superpowers to the cameraman on accident. He didn't get
probably does have a chance to yet decide who he would give the powers to. Who knows? Maybe if he had more time to think about it, he would've given the powers to Roxanne.
* Simple really, Roxanne is the kidnap victim, it's part of the dynamic.
backup dehydrator gun that Minion used.



[[folder:Government]]

Where is the American Government in this whole debacle? Don't they feel worried that Mega Mind just took over a prosperous city and might do the same to another? Do they think that he is just such an ineffectual villain that he won't present any problems to national security? Did Mega Mind make a deal with the government? This bugged me a little bit.
* Maybe superheroes and villains are reasonably common in this universe (like in a comic book universe), and the feds prefer to let superpowered beings deal with superpowered problems.
* Odds are the government was rather cautious about attacking, y'know, a diabolical mastermind who'd just defeated the greatest hero in the world.
* Megamind has [[KillSat an orbital weapon capable of channeling the power of the sun]] into a comparatively precise area aimed at a high population center, and they have no idea how close he keeps the big red button for it. The civilian casualties should they interfere would be horrendous. They'd need a small-scale invasion to take him on ''and'' look for the controls, and they'd have to hope he doesn't spot them coming. One the flipside, he seems to respect the one-on-one superhero/supervillain dynamic, so letting a lone super sort it out has a better chance of succeeding overall, not to mention preventing a lot of collateral at the same time. They might've been trying to pull strings to get a hero somewhere to come and help, but y'know, SupermanStaysOutOfGotham; it's plausible that many other heroes would feel uncomfortable or unprepared to take on a villain not from their own RoguesGallery. Once Tighten starts wreaking havoc, there's a chance they'd start mobilizing a military response, since this isn't a hostage situation any more - it's terrorism. That only lasts for a day, though, which isn't long enough to create an effective response that doesn't cause more civilian casualties.
* Perhaps the government has kept tabs on the Metro Man/Megamind dynamic and realized that Megamind himself was ineffectual and more focused on the spectacle than the actual crime. If there was any escalation, they probably would step in, but Megamind's plans did not change much and eventually got bored and turned to sprucing up the town instead (Roxie's suggestion, but still).
* Related to this, since Megamind is obviously bored without any opposition. How about just declare war on someone like the entire America? Hopefully their military response could keep him entertained. It worked for Doctor Doom.
* Nothing we see of Megamind indicates he has any interest in ''actually'' harming anyone, or that he'd declare "war" on anyone. What he wants is to fight a hero.
* This could be caught up in a big political debacle on the national stage with doves and hawks fighting on the hill, while GeneralRipper is lobbying to [[FinalSolution nuke the city]]. Then it all gets resolved before any faction gets to take action.

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[[folder:Government]]

Where is the American Government in this whole debacle? Don't they feel worried that Mega Mind just took over a prosperous city and might do the same to another? Do they think that he is just such an ineffectual villain that he won't present any problems to national security? Did Mega Mind make a deal with the government? This bugged me a little bit.
* Maybe superheroes and villains
[[folder:Punch-holes]]

Why
are reasonably common in this universe (like in a comic book universe), and the feds prefer to let superpowered beings deal with superpowered problems.
* Odds are the government was rather cautious about attacking, y'know, a diabolical mastermind who'd just defeated the greatest hero
there two punch-holes in the world.
invisible-car's door?
* Megamind has [[KillSat an orbital weapon capable of channeling the power of the sun]] into a comparatively precise area aimed at a high population center, and they have no idea how close he keeps the big red button for it. The civilian casualties should they interfere would be horrendous. They'd need a small-scale invasion to take him on ''and'' look for the controls, and they'd have to hope he doesn't spot them coming. One the flipside, he seems to respect the one-on-one superhero/supervillain dynamic, so letting a lone super sort it out has a better chance of succeeding overall, not to mention preventing a lot of collateral at the same time. They might've been trying to pull strings to get a hero somewhere to come and help, but y'know, SupermanStaysOutOfGotham; it's plausible that many other heroes would feel uncomfortable or unprepared to take on a villain not from their own RoguesGallery. Once Tighten starts wreaking havoc, there's a chance they'd start mobilizing a military response, since this isn't a hostage situation any more - it's terrorism. That only lasts for a day, though, which isn't long enough to create an effective response that doesn't cause more civilian casualties.
* Perhaps the government has kept tabs on the Metro Man/Megamind dynamic and realized that Megamind himself was ineffectual and more focused on the spectacle than the actual crime. If there was any escalation, they probably would step in, but Megamind's plans did not change much and eventually got bored and turned to sprucing up the town instead (Roxie's suggestion, but still).
* Related to this, since Megamind is obviously bored without any opposition. How about just declare war on someone like the entire America? Hopefully their military response could keep him entertained. It worked for Doctor Doom.
* Nothing we see of Megamind indicates he has any interest in ''actually'' harming anyone, or that he'd declare "war" on anyone. What he wants is to fight a hero.
* This could be caught up in a big political debacle on the national stage with doves and hawks fighting on the hill,
used both hands while GeneralRipper is lobbying to [[FinalSolution nuke ripping off the city]]. Then it all gets resolved before any faction gets to take action.door.



[[folder:Hal's accomplishments]]

The part where Minion says that Hal has no records he includes the line, "He has accomplished nothing." Um, last time I checked they don't hand out jobs in the media to just any goober off the street. Especially not a major TV news broadcast station. You have to go to college for that ''and'' beat out other candidates for a job, even as a camera person.
* Minion is ''exaggerating to make a point''. The point being that Hal is a profoundly mundane person who hasn't really done anything impressive. Given what we know about him, it can be safely assumed that he most likely got below-average to average grades at school and college, isn't ''that'' great at his job and most likely hasn't excelled in any significant way or done anything of any particular note with his life. Generally, landing a decent job and gaining sufficient qualifications to enable you to do so isn't really considered to be exceptional, since that's pretty much the minimum that society expects of a functional member of society. And while a job in the media isn't exactly something to sniff at, who really pays attention to the cameraperson?
* It's possible that Hal had enough basic technological know-how to become a cameraman through a temp agency, or maybe an internship, if we were to assume he was working on school at the moment. For all we know about Hal, he doesn't seem to have any responsibility at the news network beyond working with the camera, so considering how he may have only had the bare minimum of skills to even do the work he had, Minion's statement about his lack of accomplishments may hold some water.

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[[folder:Hal's accomplishments]]

The part where Minion says that Hal has no records he includes the line, "He has accomplished nothing." Um, last
[[folder:Scanning Metro Man]]

When did Megamind have
time I checked they don't hand out jobs in the media to just any goober off the street. Especially not a major TV news broadcast station. You have to go to college scan & record Metro Man for that ''and'' beat out other candidates for a job, even as a camera person.
* Minion is ''exaggerating to make a point''. The point being that Hal is a profoundly mundane person who hasn't really done anything impressive. Given what we know about him, it can be safely assumed that he most likely got below-average to average grades at school and college, isn't ''that'' great at
his job and most likely hasn't excelled in any significant way or done anything of any particular note with his life. Generally, landing a decent job and gaining sufficient qualifications to enable you to do so isn't really considered to be exceptional, since that's pretty much the minimum that society expects of a functional member of society. And while a job in the media isn't exactly something to sniff at, who really pays attention to the cameraperson?
watch?
* It's possible that Hal had enough basic technological know-how to become a cameraman through a temp agency, or maybe an internship, if we were to assume he was working on school recorded Metro Man at the moment. For all we know about Hal, he doesn't seem to have any responsibility at the news network beyond working with the camera, so considering how he may have only had the bare minimum of skills to even do the work he had, Minion's statement about his lack of accomplishments may hold some water.
point during the innumerable battles they've had before.



[[folder:Different Megaminds]]

So if the Megamind on the hoverbike was Minion, how did the dehydrator gun (used to free Roxy) get back to Megamind (used to save himself from his fall)? It's made from his binky, so it seems doubtful he has a second one.
* We lose sight of him a few times when he's chasing Tighten around in his Metro Man guise; he could've slipped back to grab some gear from Minion then, just in case Tighten called his bluff during the pursuit.
* Now that I look at it again, I realize that there's at least one other dehydrator used, specifically during the scene where he and minion are "cleaning up the streets", Megamind has a walker-mounted dehydrator. So if he built another one for that machine, he probably does have a backup dehydrator gun that Minion used.
* Certainly by the time of the movie, he's found a way to duplicate the binky's function as a power source. The brain-bots have similar blue-glowing energy inside, as does the giant robot from "Button Of Doom".

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[[folder:Different Megaminds]]

So if the Megamind on the hoverbike was Minion, how did the dehydrator gun (used to free Roxy) get back to Megamind (used to save himself from his fall)? It's made from his binky, so it seems doubtful he has a second one.
* We lose sight of him a few times when he's chasing Tighten around in his Metro Man guise; he could've slipped back to grab some gear from Minion then, just in case Tighten called his bluff during the pursuit.
* Now that I look at it again, I realize that there's at least one other dehydrator used, specifically during
[[folder:Metro Man's death]]

In
the scene where he Metro Man dies (well, fakes dying, but details) and minion are "cleaning up the streets", Megamind has a walker-mounted dehydrator. So if he built another one sees his skeleton for the first time, Roxanne is in the background tied to a chair. Later on that machine, he night when Megamind is rampaging the city and making his big speech, she is in the audience, completely free. When and how did she get free from Megamind's grasp if no one was there to save her?
* Minion
probably does have a backup dehydrator gun that freed her. Minion used.
* Certainly by the time of the movie, he's found a way
was about to duplicate the binky's function as release her when they thought Metro Man was going to escape, so probably did after Metro Man was blown up. There's also a power source. The brain-bots good chance that Megamind himself dropped her off; he didn't really have similar blue-glowing energy inside, as does the giant robot from "Button Of Doom".
any plans for her beyond using her to lure Metro Man into another trap/battle.



[[folder:Punch-holes]]

Why are there two punch-holes in the invisible-car's door?
* Tighten used both hands while ripping off the door.

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[[folder:Punch-holes]]

Why are there two punch-holes in
[[folder:Afro]]

So, why did Hal suddenly gain an extremely curly afro when souped up on Metro Man DNA?
* A result of
the invisible-car's door?
* Tighten used both hands while ripping off the door.
burst of power when he exploded into his new form. Y'know, like static electricity.



[[folder:Scanning Metro Man]]

When did Megamind have time to scan & record Metro Man for his watch?
* It's possible he recorded Metro Man at some point during the innumerable battles they've had before.

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[[folder:Scanning Metro Man]]

When did
[[folder:Apology]]

What's up with the apology scene towards the end? Megamind's apologizing to who he thinks is the warden for all the bad he's done and that he wants to make it right, and then Minion disables the hologram and goes "apology accepted" as if that apology might as well have been directed at Minion himself. The thing is, Megamind's apology is simply a more extreme version of the position he had before, ''the one that caused Minion to abandon him in the first place''. The entire reason they fought and "broke up" was because
Megamind have time briefly thought he didn't want to scan & record Metro Man be a supervillain anymore, and Minion was utterly devastated. So what on earth caused Minion to decide that, yes, being a good guy was a good idea, and that, somehow, ''it had been his position the entire time''?
* Minion wasn't against the idea of Megamind ceasing to be evil, not entirely; he was just upset because Megamind yelled in the heat of the moment he didn't need him. Note how, at the end, Minion is perfectly content to join the party and bask in not being a bad guy anymore. Megamind's apology wasn't about renouncing his decision to abandon supervillainy, it was about acknowledging that he'd treated Minion like crap in the process and apologizing
for his watch?
* It's possible he recorded Metro Man at some point during the innumerable battles they've had before.
that.



[[folder:Metro Man's death]]

In the scene where Metro Man dies (kind of) and Megamind sees his skeleton for the first time, Roxanne is in the background tied to a chair. Later on that night when Megamind is rampaging the city and making his big speech, she is in the audience, completely free. When and how did she get free from Megamind's grasp if no one was there to save her?
* Minion probably freed her out of habit. Minion was about to release her when they thought Metro Man was going to escape, so probably did after Metro Man was blown up.
* There's a good chance that Megamind himself dropped her off (he didn't just let her go, since she had to find the fake observatory to discover his lair, instead of just going back to the building she escaped from) so she could join the crowd. He didn't really have any plans for her beyond using her to lure Metro Man into another trap/battle, and almost certainly didn't want to actually ''hurt'' her.

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[[folder:Metro Man's death]]

In
[[folder:Copying powers]]

If
the scene where Metro Man dies (kind of) watch can copy a person's likeness and Megamind sees his skeleton for the first time, Roxanne is in the background tied to a chair. Later on that night when Megamind is rampaging the city and making his big speech, she is in the audience, completely free. When and how did she get free from Megamind's grasp if no one was there to save her?
* Minion probably freed her out of habit. Minion was about to release her when they thought Metro Man was going to escape, so probably did after Metro Man was blown up.
* There's a good chance that Megamind himself dropped her off (he
powers, why didn't just let her go, since she had to find the fake observatory to discover his lair, instead of just going back to the building she escaped from) so she could join the crowd. He didn't really have any plans for her beyond using her to lure Megamind use it against Metro Man into another trap/battle, years ago?
* Because it can't copy powers. Just appearance. When Megamind impersonated Metro Man, he was using a jetpack
and almost certainly didn't want a bunch of gadgets to actually ''hurt'' her.
imitate his powers.



[[folder:Afro]]

So, why did Hal suddenly gain an extremely curly afro when souped up on Metro Man DNA? Before that happened, you can clearly see that he has straight hair, and it goes back to being straight when the DNA is removed. What the heck?
* Probably the easiest way to explain this is it simply being a side-effect of having super-powered alien DNA injected into him and consequently screwing around with his own DNA.
* I assumed it was just a result of the burst of power when he exploded into his new form. Y'know, like static electricity.
* Possibly Hal has a natural afro, but uses product to straighten it. When he becomes Tighten, the power purges the effects of such things. Wouldn't be surprised if it also did things like pop out his fillings and heal his teeth and that sort of thing.

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[[folder:Afro]]

So, why did Hal suddenly gain an extremely curly afro when souped up on Metro Man DNA? Before that happened, you can clearly see that he has straight hair,
[[folder:Genius Ditz]]

Is it possible to be both a genius
and it goes back a bumbling idiot? Some scenes Megamind is played off as a buffoon, other times he is shown to being straight when the DNA is removed. What the heck?
be super smart.
* Probably the easiest way to explain this is it simply being a side-effect of having super-powered alien DNA injected into him and consequently screwing around with his own DNA.
* I assumed it was just a result of the burst of power when he exploded into his new form. Y'know, like static electricity.
* Possibly Hal
GeniusDitz, BookSmart... basically, Megamind has a natural afro, great deal of knowledge in some areas (mainly technical and planning matters) but uses product to straighten it. When he becomes Tighten, the power purges the effects of such things. Wouldn't be surprised if it also did things like pop out his fillings and heal his teeth and that sort of thing.
little intelligence in others (particularly social skills).



[[folder:Apology]]

What's up with the apology scene towards the end? Megamind's apologizing to who he thinks is the warden for all the bad he's done and that he wants to make it right, and then Minion disables the hologram and goes "apology accepted" as if that apology might as well have been directed at Minion himself. The thing is, Megamind's apology is simply a more extreme version of the position he had before, ''the one that caused Minion to abandon him in the first place''. The entire reason they fought and "broke up" was because Megamind briefly thought he didn't want to be a supervillain anymore, and Minion was utterly devastated. So what on earth caused Minion to decide that, yes, being a good guy was a good idea, and that, somehow, ''it had been his position the entire time''?
* Minion is definitely shocked that Megamind doesn't want to be a supervillain any more, but it's only when Megamind yells that he doesn't need Minion anymore that Minion storms out. Had Megamind not said that, given time, Minion could easily have come around to the new way of doing things, especially since his purpose is to look after Megamind and since he's a pretty likable and mild-natured sort of fish to begin with. Note how, at the end, Minion is perfectly content to join the party and bask in not being a bad guy anymore. His shock is just because he's so used to Megamind's supervillain ways that he's astonished when Megamind decides he doesn't want to do that any more, and Megamind's apology wasn't about renouncing his decision to abandon supervillainy, it was about acknowledging that he'd treated Minion like crap in the process and apologizing for that.

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[[folder:Apology]]

What's
[[folder:Hal a bad guy]]

Was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers? Before he became Tighten, he seemed to be a bumbling idiot who just wanted a girl's affections. A lot of guys who try way too hard to impress girls, but they aren't psychopaths or nutcases. Sure they unintentionally come off creepy just like Hal, but they are still nice guys, they're just lousy at picking
up women. Also, why doesn't Roxanne take blame for him turning evil? Sure she doesn't love him, but it was stated she treated him like a nobody. Heck, she gave the real Bernard, the one who was summarily dehydrated, more attention. She doesn't feel guilty at all?
* He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem
with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the apology scene surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the end? "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand what she's saying, she's confused..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line.\\
As for why Roxanne has little-to-no responsibility for Hal's FaceHeelTurn, that's because Hal is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. He's not the first man to be rejected by the woman he has feelings for, but it's his decision to go on what is basically the superpowered equivalent of a temper tantrum because of it. Furthermore, "she treated him like a nobody" is a hugely unfair distortion of Roxanne's actions (note how the only person who actually claims this is Hal himself, who is far from unbiased or reliable in this particular matter). Watch how she treats him throughout the movie. Despite the fact that she's clearly discomforted by him at times, she nevertheless clearly makes an effort to be polite and kind to him, and to let him down gently. And even if she didn't -- even if she did treat the original Bernard with more interest -- well, frankly, that's her choice. Roxanne has the right to choose whomever she's dating, regardless of whether that particular someone is nice to her or not.\\
Hal might not have been an out-and-out psychopath (though he's definitely psychopath''ic''), but he was basically a selfish brat who pretended to be a nicer person than he was, which is why when he gets superpowers the first thing he does is start robbing stuff. Like [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], his idea of what a hero is revolves around having amazing powers and getting to do whatever you want, and he thinks that they only save people because [[EvilCannotComprehendGood they love the adulation that comes with it]]; unlike Syndrome, Hal doesn't give a damn about the adulation (except [[StalkerWithACrush from Roxanne]]), so he has even ''less'' reason to pretend to be a hero.
* In scenes that include Hal, following Metro Man's assumed destruction, the audience is shown more aspects of Hal's personality (in addition to his predominant NoMeansYes interactions with Roxanne)--through subtle behaviors that don't compliment his character. To answer the question, "''was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers?''", here are some examples:
** During
Megamind's apologizing to who he thinks is the warden for all the bad Q&A session in front of City Hall, Hal openly chews gum- occasionally revealing a large (though likely unintentional) smile- while he's done filming live, whether it's Roxanne or Megamind who he points the camera at. Hal's characteristics on display here are primarily carelessness, and in second place irreverence.
** In the same scene, Hal is shown to have changed out of his "Error 404 Request Not Found" shirt (worn earlier the same day) into his "Game Over" shirt--which was a deliberate choice, even if it happened off-screen, because it contrasts Roxanne's appearance entirely (she went immediately from her role as a hostage into her role as a news reporter without so much as wiping off the Death Ray explosion's ash from her face). Hal's action conveys his previously indicated passive-aggressive contempt for Metro Man, or perhaps mocks the reaction of the people around him (as he, by contrast, appears ambivalent).
** After Roxanne's dismal evening report in front of the nearly-empty Metro Man Museum, Hal is openly cheery. His behavior demonstrates
that he wants he's not even Roxanne's friend: he's about to make it right, invite her to his apartment, and then Minion disables the hologram and goes "apology accepted" as if that apology might as well have been directed at Minion himself. The thing is, he either ignores how she's feeling or else he somehow can't perceive it.
** While filming in front of
Megamind's apology is simply a more extreme version of Secret Hideout, even though Hal has the position he had before, ''the one that caused Minion to abandon him in the first place''. The entire reason they fought and "broke up" was because Megamind briefly thought he didn't want to be a supervillain anymore, and Minion was utterly devastated. So what on earth caused Minion to decide that, yes, being a good guy was a good idea, and that, somehow, ''it had been his position camera pointed at Roxanne the entire time''?
* Minion is definitely shocked that Megamind doesn't want to be a supervillain any more, but it's only when Megamind yells that
time, he doesn't need Minion anymore that Minion storms out. Had Megamind not said that, given see her disappear through a wall--and doesn't notice her absence immediately, either. (There is enough time, Minion could easily have come around to the new way of doing things, especially since his purpose is to look after before Hal notices: for Megamind and since he's a pretty likable and mild-natured sort of fish to begin with. Note how, at the end, Minion's witty banter, for Minion is perfectly content with DNA Gun in hand to join be hidden in a tall metal cabinet, for Megamind to close a long curtain in front of his create-a-hero plans and to answer Roxanne's confusion over the party and bask phone.) In this way, Hal shows that he isn't looking (paying attention) even when he is looking--no exceptions for Roxanne.
** Yet, when Hal opposes Roxanne's word later
in not being the same scene, to tell Bernard, "''She doesn't know what she's saying, she's been through a bad guy anymore. traumatic experience,''" it unravels the aforementioned possibility that Hal somehow can't perceive Roxanne's unhappiness. His shock is just because he's so used to Megamind's supervillain ways conversation with Bernard proves that he's astonished selective (rather than unknowing) when Megamind decides it comes to what he doesn't want to do sees--and that any more, and Megamind's apology wasn't about renouncing for the most part, he wants to view Roxanne (and his decision to abandon supervillainy, it was about acknowledging that he'd treated Minion like crap in the process and apologizing for that.
other surroundings) after a manner of his own making, not as they actually are.



[[folder:Copying powers]]

If the watch can copy a person's likeness and powers, why didn't Megamind use it against Metro Man years ago (assuming Megamind didn't think of that)?
* Because it can't copy powers. Just appearance.
* When Megamind impersonated Metro Man, he was using his flight ability and strength to take on Tighten/Tighten. Megamind is super intelligent, but he doesn't have super strength and flight.
* He was wearing rocket boots and what appeared to be extremely powerful fighting gauntlets underneath the disguise. Also worth noting that he never really got into a fight with Tighten/Tighten while wearing the disguise -- he basically just chased him around and let Tighten/Tighten's own fear do the rest.
* They make it pretty clear that he's using the gadgets to mimic the powers, and nothing in the movie indicates the watch does anything besides alter appearance.
* Besides the jetpack, Megamind had a saw on his right hand (which can be seen for all of a second after he's unveiled before he smashes it on Tighten's face) which is the same arm he has extended when he chops the bus in half. That was the only "super" act he did as Metro Man besides flying which was clearly the jetpack.

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[[folder:Copying powers]]

If the watch can copy a person's likeness and powers, why didn't Megamind use it against
[[folder:Metro Man's dream]]

How was
Metro Man years ago (assuming planning to pursue his dream if he is believed to be dead? Does he have a Clark Kent identity in this universe? What makes Metro Man think Megamind didn't think of that)?
* Because it can't copy powers. Just appearance.
* When Megamind impersonated Metro Man,
wouldn't conquer the entire planet if he was using his flight ability and strength planning to take on Tighten/Tighten. Megamind move to another state to become a musician? It would be kinda difficult to do this if your planet is super intelligent, but he doesn't have super strength and flight.
under control of an evil genius.
* He was wearing rocket boots and what appeared He's going to be extremely powerful fighting gauntlets underneath the disguise. Also worth noting that he never really got into create a fight with Tighten/Tighten while wearing the disguise -- he basically just chased him around and let Tighten/Tighten's own fear do the rest.
* They make it pretty clear that
new identity for himself; in essence, he's using going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And the gadgets to mimic reason he assumes Megamind won't conquer the powers, and nothing in the movie indicates the watch does entire planet or anything besides alter appearance.
* Besides
like that is because ''he knows Megamind''. The two have essentially been each other's closest frenemy since childhood. Metro Man knows that there's no major risk on the jetpack, "potential planetary destruction or domination" front from Megamind had a saw on his right hand (which can be seen for all of a second after because by this point he's unveiled before he smashes it on Tighten's face) which is the same arm he has extended when he chops the bus familiar with Megamind and knows that ultimately Megamind's not really interested in half. That was the that. It's quite arguable that not only "super" act he did as Metro he know that Megamind wasn't going to take over the world, but that he forsaw Megamind becoming the new Good to fill the vacuum he left, therefore fulfilling ''both'' of their dreams (Metro Man besides flying which is now free from his social burden, and Megamind gets the opportunity to be a good guy that was clearly the jetpack.
denied to him as a child).



[[folder:Genius Ditz]]

Is it possible to be both a genius and a bumbling idiot? Some scenes Megamind is played off as a buffoon, other times he is shown to be super smart.
* GeniusDitz, BookSmart... basically, Megamind has a great deal of knowledge in some areas (mainly technical and planning matters) but little intelligence in others (particularly social skills).

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[[folder:Genius Ditz]]

Is it possible to be both
[[folder:Megamind the murderer]]

Regarding Megamind, yes he's
a genius sympathetic VillainProtagonist, but isn't there a bit of ProtagonistCenteredMorality along wiht it? He is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable of doing genuinely evil things, except that, he ''murders a guy (Metro Man) and a bumbling idiot? Some scenes cheers about it'', only regretting it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. Then consider that you don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing; you gotta have done some pretty heinous shit to get that much.
*
Megamind didn't really intend to murder Metro Man; he expected Metro Man to escape and send him back to prison as usual. His state of mind is played off as more like recklessness, playing a buffoon, other times deadly game with Metro Man that he should know could result in lethal consequences. Once he has killed Metro Man, he is shown still too immature to be super smart.
* GeniusDitz, BookSmart... basically, Megamind has a great deal
really appreciate the depth of knowledge in some areas (mainly technical his wrongdoing, he is just running off a script of what a supervillain is supposed to do when he wins.\\
As for the 88 life sentences, repeated kidnapping
and planning matters) but little intelligence in others (particularly social skills).
breaking out of jail is likely what makes up the bulk of his "crimes" (in quotes because again, he didn't have proper ill intent).



[[folder:Hal a bad guy]]

Was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers? Before he became Tighten, I saw Hal as a bumbling idiot who just wanted a girl's affections. I know a lot of guys who try way too hard to impress girls, but they aren't psychopaths or nutcases. Sure they unintentionally come off creepy just like Hal, but they are still nice guys, they're just lousy at picking up women. Also, why doesn't Roxanne take blame for him turning evil? I understand she doesn't love him, but it was stated she treated him like a nobody. Heck, she gave the real Bernard more attention. She doesn't feel guilty at all?
* He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand what she's saying, she's confused..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line. Which brings me to...
* As for why Roxanne has little-to-no responsibility for Hal's FaceHeelTurn, that's because Hal is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. He's not the first man to be rejected by the woman he has feelings for, but it's his decision to go on what is basically the superpowered equivalent of a temper tantrum because of it. Furthermore, "she treated him like a nobody" is a hugely unfair distortion of Roxanne's actions (note how the only person who actually claims this is Hal himself, who is far from unbiased or reliable in this particular matter). Watch how she treats him throughout the movie. Despite the fact that she's clearly discomforted by him at times, she nevertheless clearly makes an effort to be polite and kind to him, and to let him down gently. And even if she didn't -- even if she did treat the original Bernard with more interest -- well, frankly, that's her choice. She owes Hal nothing. Hal isn't entitled to her interest or affections, romantic or otherwise, just because he comes off as bumbling and awkward.
* If someone you would never ever want to get into a relationship with constantly forced himself on you and then blamed you for him turning into a criminal, would you agree with them? Roxanne has the right to choose whomever she's dating, regardless of whether that particular someone is nice to her or not. Metro Man was saving her on a regular basis, all the while (presumably) being helpful and polite, and the movie emphatically made a point of that this has ''nothing'' to do with romantic affection. Hal should have learned long ago to take no for an answer and leave Roxanne alone with his advances - the movie suggests that this was roughly the billionth time he asked her out, and she always put him down. While not doing anything ''evil'' per se, Hal suspiciously resembles a stalker (remember the [[StalkerShrine creepy poster in his room, complete with a love note]]). Hal is the only one to blame here as he behaved like a small child who throws a tantrum when he's denied something. Except that this particular tantrum ended in manslaughter and severe property damage. As for treating him like dirt, that's pretty obviously Hal's [[UnreliableNarrator own twisted interpretation of the previous events]], as when we actually see them together onscreen, Roxanne shows incredible patience and sympathy towards him.
** Heck, the evident fact that she never reported his unwelcome and incessant, however low-key, advances to their superiors at the network demonstrates a great deal of forbearance on Roxanne's part. If Hal's been acting that way towards her for years, it was probably ''only'' because she felt sorry for his ineptitude that she never filed a sexual harassment complaint, or at least asked that he be transferred to some other (preferably male) reporter's team.
* Even if most guys like Hal aren't psychopaths or nutcases, it doesn't change the fact that ''Hal is'', or at the very least that he's (presumably) more selfish off-screen than we see him be. Most of those guys in RealLife will vary wildly beyond their crushes and pseudo-stalker tendencies- yes, ''some'' of them will be basically decent people who are suffering from nothing more than severe loneliness and[=/=]or lack of social skills; others will be more neutral, and some- like Hal- will be selfish, amoral manchilds who pretend to be "nice guys" because [[BitchInSheepsClothing that's what they think society expects of them]], not because they actually care about it all that much. Hal might not have been an out-and-out psychopath (though he's definitely psychopath''ic''), but he was basically a selfish brat who pretended to be a nicer person than he was, which is why when he gets superpowers the first thing he does is start robbing stuff. Like [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], his idea of what a hero is revolves around having amazing powers and getting to do whatever you want, and he thinks that they only save people because [[EvilCannotComprehendGood they love the adulation that comes with it]]; unlike Syndrome, Hal doesn't give a damn about the adulation (except [[StalkerWithACrush from Roxanne]]), so he has even ''less'' reason to pretend to be a hero.
* In scenes that include Hal, following Metro Man's assumed destruction, the audience is shown more aspects of Hal's personality (in addition to his predominant NoMeansYes interactions with Roxanne)--through subtle behaviors that don't compliment his character. To answer the question, "''was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers?''", here are some examples:
** During Megamind's Q&A session in front of City Hall, Hal openly chews gum- occasionally revealing a large (though likely unintentional) smile- while he's filming live, whether it's Roxanne or Megamind who he points the camera at. Hal's characteristics on display here are primarily carelessness, and in second place irreverence.
** In the same scene, Hal is shown to have changed out of his "Error 404 Request Not Found" shirt (worn earlier the same day) into his "Game Over" shirt--which was a deliberate choice, even if it happened off-screen, because it contrasts Roxanne's appearance entirely (she went immediately from her role as a hostage into her role as a news reporter without so much as wiping off the Death Ray explosion's ash from her face). Hal's action conveys his previously indicated passive-aggressive contempt for Metro Man, or perhaps mocks the reaction of the people around him (as he, by contrast, appears ambivalent).
** After Roxanne's dismal evening report in front of the nearly-empty Metro Man Museum, Hal is openly cheery. His behavior demonstrates that he's not even Roxanne's friend: he's about to invite her to his apartment, and he either ignores how she's feeling or else he somehow can't perceive it.
** While filming in front of Megamind's Secret Hideout, even though Hal has the camera pointed at Roxanne the entire time, he doesn't see her disappear through a wall--and doesn't notice her absence immediately, either. (There is enough time, before Hal notices: for Megamind and Minion's witty banter, for Minion with DNA Gun in hand to be hidden in a tall metal cabinet, for Megamind to close a long curtain in front of his create-a-hero plans and to answer Roxanne's confusion over the phone.) In this way, Hal shows that he isn't looking (paying attention) even when he is looking--no exceptions for Roxanne.
** Yet, when Hal opposes Roxanne's word later in the same scene, to tell Bernard, "''She doesn't know what she's saying, she's been through a traumatic experience,''" it unravels the aforementioned possibility that Hal somehow can't perceive Roxanne's unhappiness. His conversation with Bernard proves that he's selective (rather than unknowing) when it comes to what he sees--and that for the most part, he wants to view Roxanne (and his other surroundings) after a manner of his own making, not as they actually are.

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[[folder:Hal a bad guy]]

Was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers? Before he became Tighten, I saw Hal as a bumbling idiot who just wanted a girl's affections. I know a lot of guys who try way too hard to impress girls, but they aren't psychopaths or nutcases. Sure they unintentionally come off creepy just like Hal, but they are still nice guys, they're just lousy at picking up women. Also, why doesn't Roxanne take blame for him turning evil? I understand she doesn't love him, but it was stated she treated him like a nobody. Heck, she gave the real Bernard more attention. She doesn't feel guilty at all?
* He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand what she's saying, she's confused..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn
[[folder:Prison inmates]]

Just
how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line. Which brings me to...
* As for why Roxanne has little-to-no responsibility for Hal's FaceHeelTurn, that's because Hal is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. He's not the first man to be rejected by the woman he has feelings for, but it's his decision to go on what is basically the superpowered equivalent of a temper tantrum because of it. Furthermore, "she treated him like a nobody" is a hugely unfair distortion of Roxanne's actions (note how the only person who actually claims this is Hal himself, who is far from unbiased or reliable in this particular matter). Watch how she treats him throughout the movie. Despite the fact that she's clearly discomforted by him at times, she nevertheless clearly makes an effort to be polite and kind to him, and to let him down gently. And even if she didn't -- even if she
did treat the original Bernard with more interest -- well, frankly, that's her choice. She owes Hal nothing. Hal isn't entitled to her interest or affections, romantic or otherwise, just because he comes off as bumbling and awkward.
* If someone you would never ever want to get into a relationship with constantly forced himself on you and then blamed you for him turning into a criminal, would you agree with them? Roxanne has the right to choose whomever she's dating, regardless of whether that particular someone is nice to her or not. Metro Man was saving her on a regular basis, all the while (presumably) being helpful and polite, and the movie emphatically made a point of that this has ''nothing'' to do with romantic affection. Hal should have learned long ago to take no for an answer and leave Roxanne alone with his advances - the movie suggests that this was roughly the billionth time he asked her out, and she always put him down. While not doing anything ''evil'' per se, Hal suspiciously resembles a stalker (remember the [[StalkerShrine creepy poster in his room, complete with a love note]]). Hal is the only one to blame here as he behaved like a small child who throws a tantrum when he's denied something. Except that this particular tantrum ended in manslaughter and severe property damage. As for treating him like dirt, that's pretty obviously Hal's [[UnreliableNarrator own twisted interpretation of the previous events]], as when we actually see them together onscreen, Roxanne shows incredible patience and sympathy towards him.
** Heck, the evident fact that she never reported his unwelcome and incessant, however low-key, advances to their superiors at the network demonstrates a great deal of forbearance on Roxanne's part. If Hal's been acting that way towards her for years, it was probably ''only'' because she felt sorry for his ineptitude that she never filed a sexual harassment complaint, or at least asked that he be transferred to some other (preferably male) reporter's team.
* Even if most guys like Hal aren't psychopaths or nutcases, it doesn't change the fact that ''Hal is'', or at the very least that he's (presumably) more selfish off-screen than we see him be. Most of those guys in RealLife will vary wildly beyond their crushes and pseudo-stalker tendencies- yes, ''some'' of them will be basically decent people who are suffering from nothing more than severe loneliness and[=/=]or lack of social skills; others will be more neutral, and some- like Hal- will be selfish, amoral manchilds who pretend to be "nice guys" because [[BitchInSheepsClothing that's what they think society expects of them]], not because they actually care about it all that much. Hal might not have been an out-and-out psychopath (though he's definitely psychopath''ic''), but he was basically a selfish brat who pretended to be a nicer person than he was, which is why when he gets superpowers the first thing he does is start robbing stuff. Like [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], his idea of what a hero is revolves around having amazing powers and getting to do whatever you want, and he thinks that they only save people because [[EvilCannotComprehendGood they love the adulation that comes with it]]; unlike Syndrome, Hal doesn't give a damn about the adulation (except [[StalkerWithACrush from Roxanne]]), so he has even ''less'' reason to pretend to be a hero.
* In scenes that include Hal, following Metro Man's assumed destruction, the audience is shown more aspects of Hal's personality (in addition to his predominant NoMeansYes interactions with Roxanne)--through subtle behaviors that don't compliment his character. To answer the question, "''was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers?''", here are some examples:
** During
Megamind's Q&A session HeelFaceTurn affect his foster family? By becoming a superhero, he basically betrayed them in front favor of City Hall, Hal openly chews gum- occasionally revealing a large (though likely unintentional) smile- while he's filming live, whether it's Roxanne or Megamind who he points getting the camera at. Hal's characteristics on display here are primarily carelessness, and in second place irreverence.
** In the same scene, Hal is shown to have changed out of his "Error 404 Request Not Found" shirt (worn earlier the same day) into his "Game Over" shirt--which was a deliberate choice, even if it happened off-screen, because it contrasts Roxanne's appearance entirely (she went immediately from her role as a hostage into her role as a news reporter without so much as wiping off the Death Ray explosion's ash from her face). Hal's action conveys his previously indicated passive-aggressive contempt for Metro Man, or perhaps mocks the reaction
affection of the people around who ostracized him (as he, by contrast, appears ambivalent).
** After Roxanne's dismal evening report
and made him want to be a villain in front of the nearly-empty Metro Man Museum, Hal is openly cheery. His behavior demonstrates that first place. As a child, the inmates were the only people who genuinely cared for him and accepted him for who he was, and now he's not even Roxanne's friend: he's about to invite her to his apartment, and he either ignores how she's feeling or else he somehow can't perceive it.
** While filming in front
making a living out of pursuing bad guys like them? One'd imagine Megamind's Secret Hideout, even though Hal has next few visits to Metro City Prison to be incredibly awkward.
* During
the camera pointed at Roxanne the entire time, he doesn't see her disappear through a wall--and doesn't notice her absence immediately, either. (There is enough time, before Hal notices: for opening montage, where Megamind in infancy zaps down a prison wall (using his binkey on the homemade tricycle), background animations, voices, and Minion's witty banter, for Minion with DNA Gun in hand to be hidden in a tall metal cabinet, for Megamind to close a long curtain in front of his create-a-hero plans and to answer Roxanne's confusion over the phone.) In this way, Hal shows sounds showed that he isn't looking (paying attention) even when he is looking--no exceptions Megamind's fellow prisoners escaped for Roxanne.
** Yet, when Hal opposes Roxanne's word later in the same scene,
themselves. It's hard to tell Bernard, "''She doesn't know what she's saying, she's been if any inmates from Megamind's arrival stayed on through a traumatic experience,''" it unravels the aforementioned possibility his adulthood, but we do see that Hal somehow can't perceive Roxanne's unhappiness. His conversation with Bernard proves that he's selective (rather than unknowing) when it comes to what he sees--and that for the most part, he wants to view Roxanne (and his other surroundings) after a manner none of his own making, not inmates tried to bring him out of prison with them. So it seems that all his inmate breathren saw him as they actually are.
just a pet of some sort (see the headscratcher on the lack of child protective services).



[[folder:Metro Man's dream]]

How was Metro Man planning to pursue his dream if he is believed to be dead? Does he have a Clark Kent identity in this universe? What makes Metro Man think Megamind wouldn't conquer the entire planet if he was planning to move to another state to become a musician? It would be kinda difficult to do this if your planet is under control of an evil genius.
* He's going to create a new identity for himself; in essence, he's going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And since it was pretty clear that Megamind clearly wasn't going to become much of a dictator -- for all his supervillainy, when you look closely at it is Megamind's post-Metro Man pre-Tighten activities were basically a large-scale robbery spree mixed with what is essentially glorified vandalism -- he probably wouldn't have had too much trouble. It's not like Megamind was exercising strict censorship of the arts, after all.
* And the reason he assumes Megamind won't conquer the entire planet or anything like that is because ''he knows Megamind''. The two have essentially been each other's closest frenemy since childhood. Metro Man knows that there's no major risk on the "potential planetary destruction or domination" front from Megamind because by this point he's familiar with Megamind and knows that ultimately Megamind's not really interested in that.
* It's quite arguable that not only did he know that Megamind wasn't going to take over the world, but that he forsaw Megamind becoming the new Good to fill the vacuum he left, therefore fulfilling ''both'' of their dreams (Metro Man is now free from his social burden, and Megamind gets the opportunity to be a good guy that was denied to him as a child)

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[[folder:Metro Man's dream]]

How was
adopted parents and his plan]]

Were Metro Man's adopted parents aware of his fake death? It seems pretty cruel not to let them know he is alive and well.
* This assumes that they're alive to begin with; they could have passed away well before the events of the story, making the issue academic.
* Based on the little we get to see about them, the folks who raised Metro Man/Music Man appear to be quite hands-off parents. They regarded the super-baby who dropped into their lives like something more akin to a somewhat amazing pet than an orphan who needs to be sheltered and nurtured. It may be that
Metro Man planning to pursue his dream if he is believed to be dead? Does he have a Clark Kent identity in this universe? What makes Metro Man think Megamind wouldn't conquer the entire planet if he was planning to move to another state to become a musician? It would be kinda difficult to do this if your planet is under control of an evil genius.
* He's going to create a new identity for himself; in essence, he's going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And since it was pretty clear
understood deep down inside that Megamind clearly wasn't going to become much while the news of a dictator -- for all his supervillainy, when you look closely at it is Megamind's post-Metro Man pre-Tighten activities were basically a large-scale robbery spree mixed demise will be received by them with what is essentially glorified vandalism -- he probably wouldn't have had too much trouble. It's conventional tears and weeds, it will not like Megamind was exercising strict censorship of the arts, after all.
* And the reason he assumes Megamind won't conquer the entire planet or anything like that is because ''he knows Megamind''. The two have essentially been each other's closest frenemy since childhood. Metro Man knows that there's no major risk on the "potential planetary destruction or domination" front from Megamind because by this point he's familiar with Megamind
be long before they will eventually resume their normal richly fulfilling and knows that ultimately Megamind's not really interested in that.busy social lives at some pleasant retirement community.
* It's quite arguable Who's to say he didn't tell them he's alive, then swear them to secrecy? Hands-off parents or not, it's unlikely that not only did he know that Megamind wasn't going to take over the world, but that he forsaw Megamind becoming the new Good to fill the vacuum he left, therefore fulfilling ''both'' of they'd want their dreams (Metro Man is now free from his social burden, and Megamind gets the opportunity adoptive son to be a good guy that was denied to miserable, and force him as to continue in a child)superhero's life he'd long since gotten sick and tired of leading.



[[folder:Megamind the murderer]]

It really bothers me that Megamind is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable of doing genuinely evil things (in contrast to the real bad guy Tighten). Except that, you know, he ''murders a guy and cheers about it''. Yes, Metro Man didn't really die but Megamind wasn't aware of that; for all he knew, he killed another human(oid) being, and was clearly enjoying it. He only regretted it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. (Not to mention that you don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing. Even with the rampant prejudice against blue aliens, or provided that Metro City has an incredibly harsh justice system, you gotta do some pretty fucked-up shit to get this much. This is obviously a humorous exaggeration, but after Metro Man's faked death one has to wonder just what other crimes Megamind committed to warrant several thousand years in prison.)
* Megamind didn't really intend to murder Metro Man; he expected Metro Man to escape and send him back to prison as usual. His state of mind is more like recklessness, playing a deadly game with Metro Man that he should know could result in lethal consequences. He is clearly guilty of numerous crimes, but it isn't really a product of evil intent, more like a screwed up and very immature way of thinking where he thinks his place in the world is to be a dramatic supervillain who is a foil to Metro Man. Once he has killed Metro Man, he is still too immature to really appreciate the depth of his wrongdoing, he is just running off a script of what a supervillain is supposed to do when he wins.
* You do know that kidnapping will give you life sentence, right? And attempted murder? And breaking out of jail?

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[[folder:Megamind the murderer]]

It really bothers me that Megamind is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable

[[folder:The morality
of doing genuinely evil things (in contrast to the real bad guy Tighten). Except that, you know, he ''murders a guy and cheers about it''. Yes, Metro Man didn't really die but Megamind wasn't aware of that; for all he knew, he killed another human(oid) being, and was clearly enjoying it. He only regretted it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. (Not to mention that you Megamind's species]]

We
don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing. Even with the rampant prejudice against blue aliens, or provided that Metro City has an incredibly harsh justice system, you gotta do some pretty fucked-up shit to get this much. This is obviously a humorous exaggeration, but after Metro Man's faked death one has to wonder just what other crimes Megamind committed to warrant several thousand years in prison.)
* Megamind didn't really intend to murder Metro Man; he expected Metro Man to escape and send him back to prison as usual. His state of mind is more like recklessness, playing a deadly game with Metro Man that he should
even know could result in lethal consequences. He is clearly guilty of numerous crimes, but it isn't really a product of evil intent, more like a screwed up and very immature way of thinking where he thinks his place in the world is to be a dramatic supervillain who is a foil to Metro Man. Once he has killed Metro Man, he is still too immature to really appreciate the depth morality of his wrongdoing, he is just running off birth parents and species. Were they violent world conquerors, or a script of what a supervillain is supposed to do when he wins.
peaceful race?
* You do know that kidnapping will give you life sentence, right? And attempted murder? And breaking out of jail?We don't know, but based on the film's morals and lessons "people can turn good, people can turn evil, people can change", chances are they weren't violent.



[[folder:Prison inmates]]

Just how did Megamind's HeelFaceTurn affect his foster family? By becoming a superhero, he basically betrayed them in favor of getting the affection of the people who ostracized him and made him want to be a villain in the first place! As a child, the inmates were the only people who genuinely cared for him and accepted him for who he was, and now he's making a living out of pursuing bad guys like them? I'd imagine Megamind's next few visits in the Metro City Prison were incredibly awkward.
* Not necessarily. If Megamind had ever been ''any good'' at being a supervillain, they might've been more disappointed, but by all appearances he'd never actually achieved more than to grab a few headlines before getting chucked back in jail. Even if he's on the "wrong" side of the law now, from their perspective, the more paternal-feeling inmates are probably happy that he's found something he's capable of doing well. Plus, just because someone is a criminal doesn't mean they want their ''kids'' to become criminals too; heck, many people get involved in theft or other low-tier crime because they're desperate to ''spare'' their families from a life of poverty and law-breaking.
* During the opening montage, where Megamind in infancy zaps down a prison wall (using his binkey on the homemade tricycle), background animations, voices, and sounds showed that Megamind's fellow prisoners escaped for themselves. It's hard to know if any inmates from Megamind's arrival stayed on through his adulthood, out of caring for him; but we do see that none of his inmates tried to bring him out of prison with them. These are reasons why Megamind's HeelFaceTurn might not be a problem for him and his foster family.

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[[folder:Prison inmates]]

Just how did Megamind's HeelFaceTurn affect his foster family? By becoming a superhero, he basically betrayed them in favor of getting the affection of the people who ostracized him
[[folder:Defeating Tighten]]

Why didn't Megamind just copy Metroman's power again
and use it on himself? He could have just made him want to be a villain another one in the lab.
* Doing that backfired ''spectacularly''
the first place! As a child, the inmates were the only people who genuinely cared for him and accepted him for who he was, and now he's making a living out of pursuing bad guys like them? I'd imagine Megamind's next few visits in the Metro City Prison were incredibly awkward.
* Not necessarily. If Megamind had ever been ''any good'' at being a supervillain, they might've been more disappointed, but by all appearances he'd never actually achieved more than to grab a few headlines before getting chucked back in jail. Even if he's on the "wrong" side of the law now, from their perspective, the more paternal-feeling inmates are probably happy that he's found something he's capable of doing well. Plus, just because someone
time. And Tighten is still invincible. At best you'd have a criminal doesn't mean they want their ''kids'' to become criminals too; heck, many people get involved in theft or other low-tier crime because they're desperate to ''spare'' their families from a life of poverty and law-breaking.
* During the opening montage, where Megamind in infancy zaps down a prison wall (using his binkey on the homemade tricycle), background animations, voices, and sounds showed that Megamind's fellow prisoners escaped for themselves. It's hard to know if any inmates from Megamind's arrival stayed on through his adulthood, out of caring for him; but we do see that none of his inmates tried to bring him out of prison with them. These are reasons why Megamind's HeelFaceTurn might not be a problem for him and his foster family.
stalemate.




[[folder:Metro Man's adopted parents and his plan]]

Were Metro Man's adopted parents aware of his fake death? It seems pretty cruel not to let them know he is alive and well. I can understand fooling the citizens, but also his parents, the 2 people who raised him?
* This assumes that they're alive to begin with; they could have passed away well before the events of the story, making the issue academic.
* Based on the little we get to see about them, the folks who raised Metro Man/Music Man appear to be quite hands-off parents. They regarded the super-baby who dropped into their lives like something more akin to a somewhat amazing pet than a poor, helpless orphaned alien who needs to be sheltered and nurtured. It may be that Metro Man understood deep down inside that while the news of his demise will be received by them with conventional tears and weeds, it will not be long before they will eventually resume their normal richly fulfilling and busy social lives at some pleasant retirement community.
* Who's to say he didn't tell them he's alive, then swear them to secrecy? Hands-off parents or not, it's unlikely that they'd want their adoptive son to be miserable, and force him to continue in a superhero's life he'd long since gotten sick and tired of leading.

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\n[[folder:Metro Man's adopted parents [[folder:Rivalry pt. 2]]

So as kids, Megamind
and Metro Man clearly did not get along. As Adults, they might not have hated each other, but they were clearly antagonistic towards each other. Why then, does Metro Man call Megamind "Little Buddy" when he and Roxanne find him in his plan]]

Were
secluded enclave after having faked his death? Nothing about their relationship has ever hinted that Megamind and Metro Man were ever pals.
* For all the villainy and battles and plots, ultimately they were ''were'' pals, even if they never fully realised it. They shared a similar background, being aliens whose home planets were destroyed; their sparring is more akin to two wrestlers on opposite sides of the Heel-Face divide. Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school?
Metro Man's adopted parents aware never been scared of Megamind or felt the need to take his fake death? It seems pretty cruel not to let them know he is alive and well. I can understand fooling the citizens, but also his parents, the 2 people who raised him?
* This assumes that they're alive to begin with; they could have passed away well before the events of the story, making the issue academic.
* Based on the little we get to see about them, the folks who raised Metro Man/Music Man appear to be quite hands-off parents. They regarded the super-baby who dropped into their lives like something more akin to a somewhat amazing pet than a poor, helpless orphaned alien who needs to be sheltered and nurtured. It may be that Metro Man understood deep down inside that while the news of his demise will be received by them with conventional tears and weeds, it will not be long before they will eventually resume their normal richly fulfilling and busy social lives at some pleasant retirement community.
* Who's to say he didn't tell them he's alive, then swear them to secrecy? Hands-off parents or not,
"evil-doing" seriously; it's unlikely that they'd want always been like a game to him, with no anger in it. Why ''wouldn't'' he think of Megamind as more like a buddy - albeit one whose butt he loves kicking at their adoptive son to be miserable, and force him to continue in a superhero's life he'd long since gotten sick and tired of leading.mutual favorite sport - than an enemy?



[[folder:The morality of Megamind's species]]

We don't even know the morality of his birth parents and species. Were they violent world conquerors, or a peaceful race? If they were an evil race, then Megamind turning to villainy could be in his blood.
* We don't know, because there's no information published about it anywhere.
* This is really just presuming that a PlanetofHats would actually exist. Why wouldn't one assume they simply had people of varying moral codes built by a variety of factors?
* [[WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions Schaffrillas]] addressed that question excellently [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2Tjm2M2cg in his review]]. We don't know, it's all up to interpretation! Heck, he even posits a theory that it's actually Megaman's species that was evil all along.

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[[folder:The morality of Megamind's species]]

We don't even know
[[folder:Roxanne getting off the morality of his birth parents and species. Were they violent world conquerors, or a peaceful race? If they were an evil race, then Megamind turning to villainy could be in his blood.
* We don't know, because there's no information published about it anywhere.
* This is really just presuming
tower]]

How does Roxanne get off the tower
that Tighten abandons her on? It doesn't seem to have a PlanetofHats would ladder or any means for a human to climb down.
* There
actually exist. Why wouldn't one assume they simply had people ''is'' a ladder; it can be seen in front of varying moral codes built by Roxanne when Tighten first puts her on the tower. It's a variety of factors?
* [[WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions Schaffrillas]] addressed that question excellently [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2Tjm2M2cg
bit blink-and-you-miss-it and can't be seen in his review]]. We don't know, subsequent shots due to character movement and camera angles, but it's all up to interpretation! Heck, he even posits a theory that it's actually Megaman's species that was evil all along. there.



[[folder: Defeating Tighten]]

Why didn't Megamind just copy Metroman's power again and use it on himself? He could have just made another one in the lab.
* Because he didn't have the infuser gun and used up all the Metroman DNA he had to work with when he made Tighten.
* He literally just met Metroman himself though, and he could have simply made another gun.
* Counterpoint: Doing that backfired ''spectacularly'' the first time. And Tighten is still invincible. At best you'd have a stalemate.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Rivalry pt. 2]]

So as Kids, Megamind and Metro Man clearly did not get along at all. As Adults, they might not have hated each other, but they were clearly antagonistic towards each other. Why then, does Metro Man call Megamind "Little Buddy" when he and Roxanne find him in his secluded enclave after having faked his death? Nothing about their relationship has ever hinted that Megamind and Metro Man were ever pals.
* For all the villainy and battles and plots, ultimately they were actually ''were'' pals, even if they never fully realised it. The movie makes abundantly clear that, for all that they were arch-enemies, their sparring is more akin to two wrestlers on opposite sides of the Heel-Face divide playing it up for the crowds rather than genuine enmity for each other, and it's pretty telling that when Metro Man is gone Megamind no longer has a purpose in his life. Ultimately, regardless of how you define their relationship, Metro Man was probably the single most important person in Megamind's life (perhaps even more than Minion and Roxanne) and vice versa, so it's not a huge stretch that some affection developed over time. At very least, they were very clearly frenemies. Besides which, "Little Buddy" is a fairly mild term of affection for someone, so at very least it's just Metro Man indicating that he has no real dislike for Megamind.
** Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school? Metro Man's never been scared of Megamind or felt the need to take his "evil-doing" seriously; it's always been like a game to him, with no anger in it. Why ''wouldn't'' he think of Megamind as more like a buddy - albeit one whose butt he loves kicking at their mutual favorite sport - than an enemy?
[[/folder]]


[[folder: Roxanne getting off the tower]]
How does Roxanne get off the tower that Tighten abandons her on? It doesn't seem to have a ladder or any means for a human to climb down.
* There actually ''is'' a ladder; it can be seen in front of Roxanne when Tighten first puts her on the tower. It's a bit blink-and-you-miss-it and can't be seen in subsequent shots due to character movement and camera angles, but it's there.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Metro Man having super-speed]]

If he had super-speed, why didn't he use it to move Megamind from the city very far away? Of course, when their rivalry first began, when he wasn't bored of his life.
* How would that help? Even if Megamind is taken out of the city, there are such things as trains, planes, cars, buses and various other forms of transport enabling him to get back. It doesn't solve the problem, it just temporarily inconveniences him.
** So is getting him to jail. They should have learned that. I think super-speed power can be used much more creatively to offput Megamind. It's a huge power. The only obstacle would be Metro Man not wanting to kill Megamind.
** But that still begs the question of exactly how moving Megamind far away from the city really fast would actually do anything to meaningfully address or improve the situation as opposed to Metro Man doing what he does already (namely, just putting him in jail or, really, doing anything else). Clearly Metro Man does not want to kill Megamind, otherwise he would have, and if that is the only real advantage to doing it, then again — how would that help? What is the advantage or benefit?

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[[folder: Defeating Tighten]]

Why didn't Megamind just copy Metroman's power again and use it on himself? He could have just made another one in the lab.
* Because he didn't have the infuser gun and used up all the Metroman DNA he had to work with when he made Tighten.
* He literally just met Metroman himself though, and he could have simply made another gun.
* Counterpoint: Doing that backfired ''spectacularly'' the first time. And Tighten is still invincible. At best you'd have a stalemate.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Rivalry pt. 2]]

So as Kids, Megamind and Metro Man clearly did not get along at all. As Adults, they might not have hated each other, but they were clearly antagonistic towards each other. Why then, does Metro Man call Megamind "Little Buddy" when he and Roxanne find him in his secluded enclave after having faked his death? Nothing about their relationship has ever hinted that Megamind and Metro Man were ever pals.
* For all the villainy and battles and plots, ultimately they were actually ''were'' pals, even if they never fully realised it. The movie makes abundantly clear that, for all that they were arch-enemies, their sparring is more akin to two wrestlers on opposite sides of the Heel-Face divide playing it up for the crowds rather than genuine enmity for each other, and it's pretty telling that when Metro Man is gone Megamind no longer has a purpose in his life. Ultimately, regardless of how you define their relationship, Metro Man was probably the single most important person in Megamind's life (perhaps even more than Minion and Roxanne) and vice versa, so it's not a huge stretch that some affection developed over time. At very least, they were very clearly frenemies. Besides which, "Little Buddy" is a fairly mild term of affection for someone, so at very least it's just Metro Man indicating that
[[folder:Superspeed, part II]]

If
he has no real dislike for Megamind.
** Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school? Metro Man's never been scared of Megamind or felt the need to take his "evil-doing" seriously; it's always been like a game to him, with no anger in it. Why ''wouldn't'' he think of Megamind as more like a buddy - albeit one whose butt he loves kicking at their mutual favorite sport - than an enemy?
[[/folder]]


[[folder: Roxanne getting off the tower]]
How does Roxanne get off the tower that Tighten abandons her on? It doesn't seem to have a ladder or any means for a human to climb down.
* There actually ''is'' a ladder; it can be seen in front of Roxanne when Tighten first puts her on the tower. It's a bit blink-and-you-miss-it and can't be seen in subsequent shots due to character movement and camera angles, but it's there.
[[/folder]]

[[folder: Metro Man having super-speed]]

If he had
super-speed, why didn't he Metro Man use it to move put Megamind from the city very far away? Of course, when their rivalry first began, when he wasn't bored of his life.
[[PutOnABus on a metaphorical bus]]?
* How would that help? Even if Megamind is taken out ignoring the sci-fi aspects of the city, world this film takes place in, there are such things as trains, planes, cars, buses and various other forms of transport enabling him to get back. It doesn't solve the problem, it just temporarily inconveniences him.
** So is getting him to jail. They should have learned that. I think super-speed power can be used much more creatively to offput Megamind. It's a huge power. The only obstacle would be Metro Man not wanting to kill Megamind.
** But that still begs the question of exactly how moving Megamind far away from the city really fast would actually do anything to meaningfully address or improve the situation as opposed to Metro Man doing what he does already (namely, just putting him in jail or, really, doing anything else). Clearly Metro Man does not want to kill Megamind, otherwise he would have, and if that is the only real advantage to doing it, then again — how would that help? What is the advantage or benefit?

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Why did Megamind spend his entire life in fucking prison?! It's horrible and just plain stupid that someone had to live like that from infancy. The whole situation is a complete contrivance to give Megamind motivation for being a super-villain.
* Could be due to the use of tropes RuleOfFunny and/or RuleOfDrama. As of this writing, [[WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}} the Main article]] also lists the trope SocialServicesDoesNotExist as an explanation, followed by, "No-one seems to be alarmed by the fact that an alien child is growing up in a prison."
* In-world character reactions to Megamind, whether as a baby, child, or adult, consist primarily of gaping and staring at him. Few appear to address him directly. (Even the first prisoner to speak on his arrival asks, "Can we keep it?") PlayedForLaughs or not, this could indicate that the characters around him don't perceive him as a person like themselves--even though he moves, learns, speaks, wears clothes, and overall appears humanlike to the audience. Whether the prison inmates or Warden document Megamind's arrival and existence- as a pet, an adopted child, a refugee, or anything else- is also unknown. He might not be considered, in-world, as someone who ''would'' be normally and ideally offered child protective services.
* The storytelling could have gone in other directions. Megamind could have been taken out of prison and provided a (loving or not) foster home; taken from prison and brought into isolation for study or experimentation; taken from prison and sold illegally; taken from prison and sent back into space. Sadly, in either fiction or RealLife, even though every human child deserves a safe and nurturing environment to grow up in, there are people who withhold those those things--which affects how that child grows up. Terrible things happen outside of the reach of child protective services.
* "The whole situation is a complete contrivance to give Megamind motivation for being a super-villain." Well... [[AnthropicPrinciple yes.]] The movie is about a super-villain. Ergo, things need to happen that lead to him becoming a supervillain. And considering the very first thing we see him do after arriving in the prison is ''lead a prison breakout'', it can be argued that he's actually locked up there for legitimate reasons.

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Why did Megamind spend his entire life in fucking prison?! It's horrible and just plain stupid that someone had to live like that from infancy. The whole situation is a complete contrivance to give Megamind motivation for being a super-villain.
* Could be due to
prison? Where are the use of tropes RuleOfFunny and/or RuleOfDrama. As of this writing, [[WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}} the Main article]] also lists the trope SocialServicesDoesNotExist as an explanation, followed by, "No-one seems to be alarmed by the fact that an alien child is growing up in a prison."
social services?
* In-world character Character reactions to Megamind, whether as a baby, child, or adult, consist primarily of gaping and staring at him. Few appear to address him directly. (Even the first prisoner to speak on his arrival asks, "Can we keep it?") PlayedForLaughs or not, this could This seems to indicate indicate that the characters around him don't perceive him as a person like themselves--even though he moves, learns, speaks, wears clothes, and overall appears humanlike to thus outside the audience. Whether the prison inmates or Warden document Megamind's arrival and existence- as a pet, an adopted child, a refugee, or anything else- is also unknown. He might not be considered, in-world, as someone who ''would'' be normally and ideally offered realm of child protective services.
* The storytelling could have gone in other directions. Megamind could have been taken out of prison and provided a (loving or not) foster home; taken from prison and brought into isolation for study or experimentation; taken from prison and sold illegally; taken from prison and sent back into space. Sadly, in either fiction or RealLife, even though every human child deserves a safe and nurturing environment to grow up in, there are people who withhold those those things--which affects how that child grows up. Terrible things happen outside of the reach of child protective services.
* "The whole situation is a complete contrivance to give Megamind motivation for being a super-villain." Well... [[AnthropicPrinciple yes.]] The movie is about a super-villain. Ergo, things need to happen that lead to him becoming a supervillain. And considering the very first thing we see him do after arriving in the prison is ''lead a prison breakout'', it can be argued that he's actually locked up there for legitimate reasons.



I know [[WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}} this movie]] lives on RuleOfFunny (a child grows up in a cell?), but really; how come Roxanne didn't realize "Bernard" was really Megamind? The voice, the posture, the attitude... didn't she find odd that Bernard had changed so dramatically?

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I know [[WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}} this movie]] lives on RuleOfFunny (a child grows up in a cell?), but really; how How come Roxanne didn't realize "Bernard" was really Megamind? The voice, the posture, the attitude... didn't she find odd that Bernard had changed so dramatically?



* Metro Man's death really affected her, and seeing someone else react similarly was familiar to her. It didn't seem strange that he was so emotional about it because she was so emotional about it.
* Also, remember that Roxanne didn't know Megamind on a personal, friendly level either - just as the villain who was always kidnapping her. Somebody kidnapping you doesn't give you a great opportunity to get to know them on a personal level.
* Plus, as Bernard, Megamind is talking normally, like he would to Minion or his Brainbots. Roxanne only knows Megamind as the IncomingHam with NoIndoorVoice. It's a huge stretch to go from "WELL I BET YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING THIS!" to "Oh... I was speed-walking nearby..." "In a suit?" "Yes, it's called formal speed-walking."

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* Metro Man's death really affected her, and seeing someone else react similarly was familiar to her. It didn't seem strange that he was so emotional about it because she was so emotional about it.
* Also, remember that Roxanne didn't know Megamind on a personal, friendly level either - just as the villain who was always kidnapping her. Somebody kidnapping you doesn't give you a great opportunity to get to know them on a personal level.
* Plus, as Bernard, Megamind is talking normally, like he would to Minion or his Brainbots. Roxanne only knows Megamind as the IncomingHam with NoIndoorVoice. It's a huge stretch to go from "WELL I BET YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING THIS!" to "Oh... I was speed-walking nearby..." "In a suit?" "Yes, it's called formal speed-walking."



[[folder:Be yourself]]

Am I the only one that thought Roxanne not wanting Megamind as he was, but once he had a HeelFaceTurn, a tad annoying? "Remember kids, if the person you like isn't how you like them, with enough effort, you can change them!" What.
* I dunno dude(tte), Megamind seemed to enjoy his job and I really just got a vibe that he only changed because of her. Besides, the fight with Tighten was just a "clean up the mess I made" sort of fight. It really just reminded this troper of comic book villains getting rid of an unwanted result. YMMV I guess.
* I think the reason was the shock at finding out her new boyfriend was the very villain that had always kidnapped her. Not to mention her pointed list about his content form her point of view: Killing Metro Man even though he really didn't, taking over the city, and tricking her into caring for him. Her look back as she left and her expression at his comments about not getting the girl I think proved she did like the ''real'' Megamind beneath the whole [[LargeHam hammy]] [[CardCarryingVillain villain]] act. All the HeelFaceTurn did was allow them to be together without the watch.
* His training of Hal showed that Megamind totally loves the superhero/supervillain dynamic, and just wants to be a part of it, regardless of which side he's on. Being a good guy just lets him win, and he's GenreSavvy enough to realize this. Like a dedicated pro wrestler, he just loves the business, regardless of if he's playing a face or a heel. This is highlighted when he says that Hal isn't even a supervillain, just a regular villain that happens to have superpowers. It's all part of the game for him. In this way, he's almost like a caped version of HatesTheJobLovesTheLimelight. It's also why he's indignant that Hal isn't acting like either a proper superhero (i.e. Hal only caring about himself and using his powers for selfish purposes) or a proper supervillain (because a proper supervillain is more concerned with the style and image than actual evil deeds).
* Regarding her not wanting him as he was, if you watch carefully, she actually starts to forgive him well before he completes his HeelFaceTurn. She lets him into her apartment, even though the last time they spoke was when she broke up with him, and some of the looks she gives him when they go to find Metro Man imply that she's slowly cooling off from her initial, completely reasonable anger over his deception.
* Also don't forget that the movie makes the point to show that Megamind didn't become a villain because he's a bad person, it's because every earnest attempt to be liked backfired so much that he decided to be 'bad with style'. Roxanne even says things would have been different if they went to the same school, and it most likely would have been; if he had just one person like him for who he was ''then'', then he wouldn't be a villain ''now''. In a sense, Megamind turning good really ''is'' him being himself, instead of taking the role that everyone expected of him.
* What? You're seriously mad at her for not wanting to be with him while he was a supervillain, terrorizing the city, after killing except not really Metro Man, after he lied to her? This isn't the same as not liking someone because of the way they dress, or they've got an annoying habit- he's a villain! Him changing (or, if you prefer, being the person he really is) shows that he really does care about people ''and'' that he's not evil. And that him caring for her wasn't an act, which she seemed to think it was.
* The thing about BeYourself as a trope, the ''problem'' with it that people don't tend to get at times is, well, to be blunt there might be problems with 'yourself' that need to be addressed and improved. 'Yourself' might not actually be very good at all. You at times actually may need to improve and change 'yourself' to get what you want. There's no point in saying 'love me for who I am' if 'who I am' is a complete asshole -- and, let's face it, for all that he had a good core underneath, Megamind very clearly was an asshole, at least to some degree. He was still a supervillain who terrorized the city and kidnapped and lied to Roxanne, so it's not unreasonable that Roxanne might view that as a bit of a stumbling block to starting a relationship with him, and that he might need to change that aspect of himself if he was to get anywhere with her..
* Also, I'll point out the OP has it backward. Roxanne didn't change Megamind so she would like him. Megamind ''decided'' to change ''himself''. He saw that who and what he was was keeping him from being with the person he wanted to be with, so he changed in a positive way -- like getting into shape because you realize the girl you like doesn't want to be with a fat slob.
* If it was just about change and ignoring who Megamind was, Roxanne would not have twisted the watch after Megamind scared Tighten off as Metro Man - also prior to being rumbled, Megamind does start to consider genuinely improving the city as a result of actual positive social interaction which he's never really had before. In some respects his "make-a-hero" scheme is just a way to try and return to a dynamic he knows out of fear of things changing. Plus he'd already wrecked the town and found that the satisfaction of destruction is quite short lived.

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Does Megamind's hologram projector watch cause changes to the subject's voice or not? When he tricks the Warden into wearing the watch, it gives him Megamind's voice as well (not likely that he used the voice on purpose). Later, he has to do the voice of Bernard (and can even drop the voice at times). That goes against how it originally worked.
* Maybe when Megamind was scanning Bernard, he forgot to record his voice? Perhaps the reason as to why he had the Warden's voice down because it had recorded what he was saying.

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Does Megamind's hologram projector watch cause changes to affect the subject's voice or not? When he tricks the Warden into wearing the watch, it gives him Megamind's voice as well (not likely that he used the voice on purpose). Later, he has to do the voice of Bernard (and can even drop the voice at times). That goes against how it originally worked.
* Maybe when Megamind was scanning Bernard, he forgot to record his voice? Perhaps the reason as to why he had the Warden's voice down because it had recorded what he was saying.
worked.



So Megamind crashes into a jail and is automatically a prisoner for "breaking and entering", but what kind of KangarooCourt sentences a 6 month old for that!!?!!
* One who is unsure of how to deal with ''an alien baby?''
* The way he can remember things from the time that he was eight days old would imply that Megamind was pretty coherent for a baby. If he could talk, they probably didn't realize how young he was until they'd already sentenced him (could have thought that his species just looked sort of baby-ish). Still doesn't explain everything, but, that's probably the goofiest part of the whole film.
* At least one of the reasons for his incarceration was probably because, even as a baby, he was able to build a death-tricycle out of number plates and lead a prison breakout.
* RuleOfFunny, period.
* The prisoners wanted to keep him, obviously!
* Like the above. An alien crashed into the prison. The prisoners rather liked it, and nobody was quite sure what else to do with a baby alien besides keeping him locked up somewhere.
* Megamind might have been a baby, but he clearly had adult intelligence to some degree (see: the death-tricycle and prison breakout mentioned above). As such, they probably deemed it appropriate to treat him as an adult, to some degree at least.

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So Megamind crashes into a jail and is automatically a prisoner for "breaking and entering", but what kind of KangarooCourt sentences a 6 month old for that!!?!!
* One who is unsure of how to deal with ''an alien baby?''
that?
* The way fact he can remember things from the time that when he was eight days old would imply that Megamind was pretty coherent for a baby. If he could talk, they probably didn't realize how young he was until they'd already sentenced him (could have thought that his species just looked sort of baby-ish). Still doesn't explain everything, but, that's probably the goofiest part of the whole film.
* At least one of the reasons for his incarceration was probably because, even as a baby, he was able to build a death-tricycle out of number plates and lead a prison breakout.
* RuleOfFunny, period.
* The prisoners wanted to keep him, obviously!
* Like the above. An alien crashed into the prison. The prisoners rather liked it, and nobody was quite sure what else to do with a baby alien besides keeping him locked up somewhere.
* Megamind might have been a baby, but he clearly had adult intelligence to some degree (see: the death-tricycle and prison breakout mentioned above).
As such, they probably deemed it appropriate to treat him as an adult, to some degree at least.
adult.



It bothers me that people accuse Tighten of being evil. He was more like ChaoticStupid; While he did turn into a Jerkass, one with powers that made him dangerous, he was a victim of circumstances- he got the powers by accident, was told he could be a hero and that it would get him the girl, then she rejected him and dated a dork instead (from his POV) and his "mentor" turned out to be a villain, who mocked him to his face about it- such stuff would drive anyone mad. Sure he decided to be a villain intentionally, but even then the destruction he caused was more out of his lack of concern for people than acts of true, sadistic evil.
* Sadly, Tighten ''was'' evil. In a way, this is his StartOfEvil story. Hal was an immature, dishonest, self-entitled, lazy guy who suddenly got super-powers. All he wanted was to be a hero in the limelight and get all the attention. Despite how much he enjoyed the adulation and limelight, Metro Man worked for his status as a hero and showed self-restraint. Hal had none of his restraint or empathy for others. He didn't exactly have the best mentor, either, with Megamind teaching him how to be a comic-book hero and not a responsible hero. It's telling that one of the Tighten's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to steal random things he wanted, and this was before he was taunted by Megamind.
* Hal had the right to be unhappy that Roxanne rejected him, but he clearly [[NotGoodWithRejection refused to accept it and respect that she didn't like him that way,]] even though she never gave him a reason to think she did, and his immediate response to her rejecting him was to drop any pretense of being a good guy at all and offer to team up with the villain who'd taken over the city. Megamind as Space Dad does say that he can get the girl as a hero, but someone who's actually good wouldn't have thought that meant to almost kill the girl in order to save her, even as a joke. Besides, a girl choosing to date someone who's not you is ''not'' a good reason to act evil.
* Not caring if people get hurt because of your action IS evil. As for sadistic, go back and watch the scene where they're doing the training with the wax Megamind. He melts the figure's head away with a big grin on his face. Yes, it's played for comedy at the time, but it sure as heck isn't when he tries it later...

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It bothers me that people accuse Was Tighten of being evil. He was evil or more like ChaoticStupid; ChaoticStupid? While he did turn into a Jerkass, one with powers that made him dangerous, he was a victim of circumstances- he got the powers by accident, was told he could be a hero and that it would get him the girl, then girl once he saves her a few times. He does so (wildly misunderstanding what it means, admittedly); she rejected him and dated a dork instead (from his POV) and his "mentor" turned out to be a villain, villain who mocked him to his face about it- such stuff would drive anyone mad. Sure he decided to be a villain intentionally, but even then the destruction he caused was more out of his lack of concern for people than acts of true, sadistic evil.
mad.
* Sadly, Tighten ''was'' evil. In a way, this is his StartOfEvil story. Hal was an immature, dishonest, self-entitled, lazy guy who suddenly got super-powers. All he wanted was to be a hero in the limelight and get all the attention. Despite how much he enjoyed the adulation and limelight, Metro Man worked for his status as a hero and showed self-restraint. Recall the scene where they're doing the training with the wax Megamind. He melts the figure's head away with a big grin on his face; Hal had none of his restraint or empathy for others. He didn't exactly have the best mentor, either, with Megamind teaching him how to be a comic-book hero and not a responsible hero. It's telling that one of the Tighten's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to steal random things he wanted, and this was before he was taunted by Megamind.\n* \\
Hal had the right to be unhappy that Roxanne rejected him, but he clearly [[NotGoodWithRejection refused to accept it and respect that she didn't like him that way,]] even though she never gave him a reason to think she did, and his immediate response to her rejecting him was to drop any pretense of being a good guy at all and offer to team up with the villain who'd taken over the city. Megamind as Space Dad does say city (it's telling that he can get one of the girl as a hero, but someone who's actually good wouldn't have thought that meant Tighten's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to almost kill the girl in order to save her, even as a joke. Besides, a girl choosing to date someone who's not you is ''not'' a good reason to act evil.
* Not caring if people get hurt because of your action IS evil. As for sadistic, go back
steal random things he wanted, and watch the scene where they're doing the training with the wax Megamind. He melts the figure's head away with a big grin on his face. Yes, it's played for comedy at the time, but it sure as heck isn't when this was before he tries it later...
was taunted by Megamind).



* Presumably his powers made him immune to its effects. Otherwise Megamind would have dehydrated Metro Man, too, at some point in their rivalry.
* Or one could presume that dehydrating Metro Man would simply turn him into the strongest blue cube in the universe, kinda like Vegito in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.
** And an invulnerable blue cube that can FLY could still do a ''lot'' of damage. If you think stepping on a Lego in bare feet is painful, imagine getting punched in the face with one at high speed...



In the [[http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w119/inu-papa/megacadillac.jpg aerial shot]] of the Death Ray firing, the beam quite obviously strikes in the locale of Cadillac, Michigan, implying that this is the location of Metro City. This is problematic for several reasons:
* The observatory, and Metro City itself, is depicted as being coastal, yet the beam strikes several miles inland.
* Roxanne's station's call letters are KMCP, a designation not possible in Michigan as all eastern US stations have call letters beginning with "W". "K" implies western US.
* Could be that she ''works'' for a station that's based out west, but is ''assigned'' to cover news from Metro City. That would explain why we never see her go in to a studio or report back to her bosses: she and Hal are operating on their own.
* Metro Man and Megamind landed on earth around Christmastime, yet there was no snow on the ground. A rarity in Michigan, ''especially'' on the lakeshore.
* This is just a guess, but considering there are superheroes and supervillains; people can survive being thrown around by someone with superstrength without even getting injured; it's possible to dehydrate someone to a tiny cube without killing them; and everyone is computer generated, don't you think this story might not take place in the real world? That explains unusual weather and call letters. You still have a point on the coastal thing though.
* WordOfGod says that Metro City was heavily inspired by UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco. Not necessarily based off of it, but heavily inspired by nonetheless.
* [[WordOfGod The DVD commentary]], on the other hand, calls Metro City something like "The sister city of Toronto; a Great Lakes metropolis", so its Michigan depiction appears to be intentional (unfortunately, when the Death Ray is fired in Button of Doom, it's shown striking north of Saginaw Bay rather than the Lake Michigan coast, so ''where'' in Michigan is still up in the air).

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In the [[http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w119/inu-papa/megacadillac.jpg aerial shot]] shot of the Death Ray firing, the beam quite obviously strikes in the locale of Cadillac, Michigan, implying that this is the location of Metro City. This is problematic doesn't make sense for several reasons:
* The
various reasons: the observatory, and Metro City itself, is depicted as being coastal, yet the beam strikes several miles inland.
*
inland; Roxanne's station's call letters are KMCP, a designation not possible in Michigan as all eastern US stations have call letters and sstations beginning with "W". "K" implies are used for the western US.
* Could be that she ''works'' for a station that's based out west, but is ''assigned'' to cover news from Metro City. That would explain why we never see her go in to a studio or report back to her bosses: she
US (Michigan and Hal are operating on their own.
*
the East should start with "W"); Metro Man and Megamind landed on earth around Christmastime, yet there was no snow on the ground. A ground, which is a rarity in Michigan, Michigan ''especially'' on the lakeshore.
* This is just a guess, but considering Considering there are superheroes and supervillains; people can survive being thrown around by someone with superstrength without even getting injured; it's possible to dehydrate someone to a tiny cube without killing them; and everyone is computer generated, don't you think this story might not take place in the real world? That explains unusual weather and call letters. You still have a point on the coastal thing though.
* WordOfGod says that Metro City was heavily inspired by UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco. Not necessarily based off of it, but heavily inspired by nonetheless.
* [[WordOfGod
nonetheless. The DVD commentary]], commentary, on the other hand, calls Metro City something like "The sister city of Toronto; a Great Lakes metropolis", so its Michigan depiction appears to be intentional (unfortunately, when the Death Ray is fired in Button of Doom, it's shown striking north of Saginaw Bay rather than the Lake Michigan coast, so ''where'' in Michigan is still up in the air).



* Why didn't Metro Man use his superspeed to avoid being seen by Roxanne and Megamind? Did he suddenly forget about it?
** His expression was one of pure shock, so he was probably too startled to think to use it.
** He looked like he could barely think of trying to sneak away.
** Since the whole point of him faking his death and going under the radar was because he was sick of being a superhero, it's possible he's made a conscious decision not to use his powers.
** His superspeed has effects on the area around him. Watch when he uses it earlier in the film. It disrupts the air and causes object around him to move.

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* Why didn't Metro Man use his superspeed to avoid being seen by Roxanne and Megamind? Did he suddenly forget about it?
**
Megamind?
*
His expression was one of pure shock, so he was probably too startled to think to use it.
** He looked like he could barely think of trying to sneak away.
** Since the whole point of him faking his death and going under the radar was because he was sick of being a superhero, it's possible he's made a conscious decision not to use his powers.
** His superspeed has effects on the area around him. Watch when he uses it earlier in the film. It disrupts the air and causes object around him to move.



[[folder:Tighten]]

Really inconsequential, but at the end, right after the credits gag of Bernard getting re-hydrated, the credits start rolling again, and you can see the characters and who voiced them - someone spelled Titan as ''Tighten''. Usually something like that wouldn't bug me, but Titan's name was spelled out several times throughout the movie; why didn't anyone notice? Does that mean his name is really Tighten, or Titan?
* Originally, his name was Titan (as he was named by Megamind,) but because he had never seen it spelled, and he's not really all that bright, he personally spelled it "Tighten", which can be seen when he carves "Tightenville" into the ground. So, really, he can be referred to either way.
* Well Space Dad did say it was the only name he could trademark, and the name "Titan" has been trademarked before. My guess is the name that the actual creators of the movie use, (and the character himself at one point) is the correct one.
** Okay, so Hal's a moron, but why did the credits list him as Tighten? It even shows up in a number of the DVD extras that way...
*** I don't know, as a joke?
* To make his [[RougeAnglesOfSatin spelling mistake]] a MeaningfulRename, I presume.
* Hal was supposed to be the hero Titan but became the villain instead, so we could say his name was corrupted like he was by his powers.
* BrickJoke!
* Subtitles actually have him named "Tighten" as well. Presumably, this was what the creators originally intended, hence the trademark quip.

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[[folder:Tighten]]

Really inconsequential, but at
[[folder:Clark Kenting]]

Would Metro Man's issues have been avoided if he'd been ClarkKenting from
the end, right beginning, rather than permanently after faking his death?
* Quite probably; it's been clearly established in
the credits gag comics that at least one of Bernard getting re-hydrated, the credits start rolling again, reasons Superman isn't Superman 24/7 is to essentially keep himself sane and you can see give him some downtime from solving all the characters and who voiced them - someone spelled Titan as ''Tighten''. Usually something world's problems. It looks like that wouldn't bug me, but Titan's name was spelled out several times throughout the movie; why didn't anyone notice? Does that mean his name is Metro Man, however, never really Tighten, or Titan?
* Originally,
had that option - unlike Clark Kent, who arrived in a fairly isolated location and was adopted by a fairly low-key couple, both of which enabled him to develop an identity outside of the public eye, Metro Man landed pretty much on the doorstep of a very wealthy and presumably very publicly exposed couple and seems to have revealed his name was Titan (as he was named by Megamind,) but because he had never seen it spelled, and powers early on; he's not really all that bright, he personally spelled it "Tighten", which can be seen when he carves "Tightenville" into the ground. So, really, he can be referred to either way.
* Well Space Dad did say it was the only name he could trademark, and the name "Titan" has
probably been trademarked before. My guess is the name that the actual creators of the movie use, (and the character himself at one point) is the correct one.
** Okay, so Hal's a moron, but why did the credits list him as Tighten? It even shows up in a number of the DVD extras that way...
*** I don't know, as a joke?
* To make
well-known for having superpowers all his [[RougeAnglesOfSatin spelling mistake]] a MeaningfulRename, I presume.
* Hal was supposed to be the hero Titan but became the villain instead, so we could say his name was corrupted like he was by his powers.
* BrickJoke!
* Subtitles actually have him named "Tighten" as well. Presumably, this was what the creators originally intended, hence the trademark quip.
life.



[[folder:Show and tell]]

What really bugs me is the beginning, particularly the part where young Megamind tries to make the popp-ed corn. It's like, show and tell or something, right? So he shows them his awesome robot and tries to make popcorn so they'll like him, only it explodes. Metro Man puts out the fire, flies Megamind over to the corner and flies back to the desk for a gold star. ''He didn't ask the teacher about any of this.'' Sure, putting out the fire, you need to do that. But then, it's like if you were painting a picture and spilled paint on the floor. Would you get a time-out and the person who sent you there get a gold star? I think not. You'd get told to clean up your mess and that's about it. And the look on his face when he's doing it too! It like 'I'm getting a gold star now! Aren't I?' Then he ''winks'' at the teacher. It makes me want to punch him in the face. Plus, that whole school seems to consist of people (including the teacher) sitting around and watching Metro Man show off. AND, you notice how Megamind says he's always picked last for everything? ''Who is doing the picking?'' Metro Man. AGAIN. So really Metro Man brought it upon himself. By being an asshole.
* One thing Megamind got right, is that Metro Lad did have things much easier than he did. He was the (adopted) son of a very wealthy or well-to-do man and the teacher (and the class as a whole) was obviously favoring the special golden boy over the weird bizarre kid from prison. It didn't help matters that Metro Lad looked perfectly human while Kid Mind was so obviously alien. It was a case of "Us versus Them" with the leader of "Us" being a child Adonis. But yeah, it really bugged me how all through the movie, Metro Man (as a baby, child, ''and'' an adult) would wink and preen and posture.
* There's also the fact Megamind may also be an unreliable narrator. since all of the movie except the very end is a flashback.
* The images in flashbacks are generally thought to be true especially if the narration barely matches up. Given, Megamind might have a screwed memory, he might not have seem everything, but this is at least how he remembers his childhood, or how his childhood actually happened. Actually its the images not his words which accuse Metro Man and the teacher of anything wrong.
* Also, the narration ''doesn't'' always match up with what we see. During the intro, Megamind tried to paint his rivalry with Metro Man as not being very one-sided, when the papers and Metro Man's powers, plus his disbelief when he "succeeds" in killing Metro Man, imply that their usual encounters [[{{CurbStompBattle}} involve a curb.]] The narration is unreliable; the visuals are accurate.
* Also, if you think about it, this is essentially a clear childhood parallel to what a grown-up superhero does; after all, no one ''asks'' the superhero to stop a disaster and bring the perpetrator to jail, but they do so anyway; similarly, the teacher didn't ask Metro Boy to put out the fire - which, let's be fair, is a ''bit'' different to spilling paint - and send Kid Megamind to 'quiet time' (the obvious childhood parallel to jail), but like any superhero Metro Boy took the initiative.
** Ultimately, like Megamind, Metro Man loved the attention as we see in the opening of the museum. He behaved very much like a rock-star performing for an audience. In fact it's implied that he only fought evil because that evil was his old rival Megamind always challenging him, and he was the one who tired of the charade first. While he wasn't a bad person, he could be rather self-centered.

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[[folder:Show and tell]]

What really bugs me is the beginning, particularly the part where young
[[folder:God]]

Does
Megamind tries believe in God? When he's trying to make get Tighten to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?
* He's been on Earth almost all his life and learned Earth concepts, including religion and/or
the popp-ed corn. terms "Oh my God", etc. But regarding his utterance, plenty of atheists in RealLife also say "Oh my God". It's like, show and tell or something, right? So he shows them his awesome robot and tries to make popcorn so they'll like him, only it explodes. Metro Man puts out the fire, flies basically become an idiomatic expression. Still, there is a moment in which Minion assures Megamind over to the corner and flies back to the desk for a gold star. ''He didn't ask the teacher about any of this.'' Sure, putting out the fire, you need to do that. But then, it's like if you were painting a picture and spilled paint on the floor. Would you get a time-out and the person who sent you there get a gold star? I think not. You'd get told to clean up your mess and that's about it. And the look on his face when he's doing it too! It like 'I'm getting a gold star now! Aren't I?' Then he ''winks'' at the teacher. It makes me want to punch him in the face. Plus, that whole school seems to consist of people (including the teacher) sitting around and watching Metro Man show off. AND, you notice how Megamind says he's always picked last for everything? ''Who is doing the picking?'' Metro Man. AGAIN. So really Metro Man brought it upon himself. By being an asshole.
* One thing Megamind got right, is that Metro Lad did have things much easier than he did. He was the (adopted) son of a very wealthy or well-to-do man and the teacher (and the class as a whole) was obviously favoring the special golden boy over the weird bizarre kid
his parents are smiling from prison. It didn't help matters that Metro Lad looked perfectly human while Kid Mind was "evil heaven", so obviously alien. It was a case of "Us versus Them" with the leader of "Us" being a child Adonis. But yeah, it really bugged me how all through the movie, Metro Man (as a baby, child, ''and'' an adult) would wink and preen and posture.
* There's also the fact Megamind may also be an unreliable narrator. since all of the movie except the very end is a flashback.
* The images in flashbacks are generally thought to be true especially if the narration barely matches up. Given, Megamind might have a screwed memory, he might not have seem everything, but this is at least how he remembers his childhood, or how his childhood actually happened. Actually its the images not his words which accuse Metro Man and the teacher of anything wrong.
* Also, the narration ''doesn't'' always match up with what we see. During the intro, Megamind tried to paint his rivalry with Metro Man as not being very one-sided, when the papers and Metro Man's powers, plus his disbelief when he "succeeds" in killing Metro Man, imply that their usual encounters [[{{CurbStompBattle}} involve a curb.]] The narration is unreliable; the visuals are accurate.
* Also, if you think about it, this is essentially a clear childhood parallel to what a grown-up superhero does; after all, no one ''asks'' the superhero to stop a disaster and bring the perpetrator to jail, but they do so anyway; similarly, the teacher didn't ask Metro Boy to put out the fire - which, let's be fair, is a ''bit'' different to spilling paint - and send Kid Megamind to 'quiet time' (the obvious childhood parallel to jail), but like any superhero Metro Boy took the initiative.
** Ultimately, like Megamind, Metro Man loved the attention as we see in the opening of the museum. He behaved very much like a rock-star performing for an audience. In fact it's implied that he only fought evil because that evil was his old rival Megamind always challenging him, and he was the one who tired of the charade first. While he wasn't a bad person, he could be rather self-centered.
perhaps?



[[folder:Clark Kenting]]

Would Metro Man's issues have been avoided if he'd been ClarkKenting from the beginning, rather than permanently after faking his death?
* Quite probably; it's been clearly established in the comics that at least one of the reasons Superman isn't Superman 24/7 is to essentially keep himself sane and give him some downtime from solving all the world's problems. It looks like Metro Man, however, never really had that option - unlike Clark Kent, who arrived in a fairly isolated location and was adopted by a fairly low-key couple, both of which enabled him to develop an identity outside of the public eye, Metro Man landed pretty much on the doorstep of a very wealthy and presumably very publicly exposed couple and seems to have revealed his powers early on; he's probably been well-known for having superpowers all his life.

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[[folder:Clark Kenting]]

Would
[[folder:DNA source]]

Why didn't Megamind use what he thought was
Metro Man's issues skeleton for DNA extraction? It should have been avoided if he'd been ClarkKenting from the beginning, rather than permanently after faking his death?
a more obvious choice instead of dandruff.
* Quite probably; it's been clearly established This is addressed in the comics that at least one [[AllThereInTheManual commentary of the reasons Superman isn't Superman 24/7 is DVD]]. They made a shot where the skeleton turns to essentially keep himself sane and give him some downtime dust, but they scrapped it after they saw it because they thought wasn't necessary. But regardless, you actually ''can't'' get DNA from solving all the world's problems. It looks like Metro Man, however, never really had that option - unlike Clark Kent, who arrived in a fairly isolated location and was adopted by a fairly low-key couple, both bones -- they're made of calcium, which enabled him to develop an identity outside of the public eye, Metro Man landed pretty much on the doorstep of a very wealthy and presumably very publicly exposed couple and seems to have revealed his powers early on; he's probably been well-known for having superpowers all his life.has no DNA.



[[folder:God]]

Does Megamind believe in God? When he's trying to get Tighten to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. IDK, I was just wondering. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?
* He's been on Earth almost all his life and learned Earth concepts, including religion and/or the terms "Oh my God", etc.
* The uttering of phrases like "Oh my God" is simply a cultural convention in the west, one that's used by both the religious and the non-religious alike. Really, from the film we have no way of knowing if Megamind is religious.
* You're right that we don't know whether Megamind is religious or not, but uttering "oh, God" is not just a cultural convention. It can actually be used seriously.
* Even atheists use "Oh God" as an exclamation occasionally; thus Megamind using it does not indicate anything about him being religious or not.
* Megamind grew up in a prison, and would certainly have heard God referenced in many different contexts by the inmates. Heck, it's probably only because it's a kid-friendly movie that he doesn't cuss all the time, too.
* Does he ever say that? I thought the line was simply "Oh, how I've missed this!". I don't think he says God at all throughout the movie.
* There's also a funny moment in which Minion assures Megamind that his parents are smiling from "evil heaven."

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Does
[[folder:Paper]]

How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2)
Megamind believe in God? When created Tighten by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Tighten" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up
he's trying to get Tighten to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. IDK, I was just wondering. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?
* He's been on Earth almost all his life
got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and learned Earth concepts, including religion and/or positioning of the terms "Oh my God", etc.
* The uttering of phrases like "Oh my God" is simply a cultural convention in the west, one that's used by both the religious and the non-religious alike. Really,
various papers from the film we have no way of knowing if there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind is religious.
* You're right that we don't know whether Megamind is religious or not,
gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but uttering "oh, God" is not just a cultural convention. It can actually be used seriously.
* Even atheists use "Oh God" as an exclamation occasionally; thus Megamind using
it does not indicate anything about him being religious or not.
* Megamind grew
was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up in a prison, with the 'Tighten' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would certainly have heard God referenced in many different contexts by look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the inmates. Heck, identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
* I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus
it's probably only exactly the sort of creepy thing he'd do.
* I figured she did it
because it's she knew Megamind was a kid-friendly movie mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
* Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
* In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting
that he Roxanne and Megamind are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just doesn't cuss all the time, too.
* Does he ever say that? I thought the line was simply "Oh, how I've missed this!". I don't think he says God at all throughout the movie.
* There's also
realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a funny moment in which Minion assures Megamind that his parents are smiling from "evil heaven."
step back'.



[[folder:DNA source]]

Why didn't Megamind use what he thought was Metro Man's skeleton for DNA extraction? It should have been a more obvious choice instead of dandruff. It seems like the only reason was because Megamind would have immediately figured out Metro Man wasn't dead thus ruining the plot.
* This is addressed in the commentary of the DVD. They made a shot where the skeleton turns to dust, but they scrapped it after they saw it because it wasn't necessary.
* Except for the fact that it obviously was necessary, given that this troper had the exact same question. Her annoyance at this is in fact further compounded by the fact that the commentators specifically said that 'Nobody was asking that question!'
* You actually ''can't'' get DNA from bones -- they're made of calcium, which has no DNA. You can get DNA from bone ''marrow'', but since it was actually a skeleton used as an anatomy model, all the bone marrow would have been removed long before Metro Man used it as a decoy. In other words, the skeleton had no biomatter to extract DNA from.
* Moreover, Megamind got freaked out at the sight of the skull, and was never a skull-and-bones-motif villain to begin with. He probably took the cape as a trophy, and let Roxy take the skeleton away to give it a proper burial.
* There's also RuleOfFunny to consider here. After all, if you had to choose any kind of cells to extract DNA from, can you think of anything less dignified than someone's dandruff?
** Especially for a HumanAlien with a reputation for great hair?

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[[folder:Faking death]]

Regarding Metro Man faking his death: since he basically made it look like Megamind killed him, wouldn't he be guilty of framing Megamind for murder? Granted, Megamind is a super-villain with a mile-long rap sheet and nobody would realistically take his side, but you really can't prosecute him for something he
didn't really do.
* Well the people of Metro City never really got the chance to prosecute
Megamind use what he thought was for the murder of Metro Man's skeleton Man prior to the end of the film, did they? Someone else described Megamind's situation at the end of the film as being a lifetime of community service for DNA extraction? It should have been a more obvious choice instead of dandruff. It seems like his past transgressions, and even without the only reason was because murder of Metro Man, Megamind would have immediately figured out is still "condemned" to be a hero for the rest of his life by the 88 life sentences he already had, thus the question of prosecuting him for the murder of Metro Man is rather a moot point, something the people of Metro City probably realized and thus didn't bother with either.
* I always assumed that Roxanne made it clear that
Metro Man wasn't dead thus ruining the plot.
* This is addressed in the commentary of the DVD. They made a shot
really dead, but for old time's sake held off from revealing where he really was or what he was really doing. Plus, everyone worshiped the skeleton turns to dust, but they scrapped it after they saw it because it wasn't necessary.
* Except for
ground the fact guy flew over and (in some cases literally) kissed his feet when he was juggling babies in mid-air; one suspects that it obviously was necessary, given that this troper had the exact same question. Her annoyance at this is in fact further compounded by the fact that the commentators specifically said that 'Nobody was asking that question!'
* You actually ''can't'' get DNA from bones -- they're made of calcium, which has no DNA. You can get DNA from bone ''marrow'', but since it was actually a skeleton used as an anatomy model, all the bone marrow
Metro Man would have been removed long before to do a lot worse to get the people of Metro Man used it as a decoy. In other words, the skeleton had no biomatter City to extract DNA from.
* Moreover, Megamind got freaked out at the sight of the skull,
have him arrested and was never a skull-and-bones-motif villain to begin with. jailed.
*
He probably took the cape as a trophy, still committed kidnapping and let Roxy take the skeleton away to give it a proper burial.
* There's also RuleOfFunny to consider here. After all, if you had to choose any kind of cells to extract DNA from, can you think of anything less dignified than someone's dandruff?
** Especially for a HumanAlien with a reputation for great hair?
attempted murder.



[[folder:Paper]]

How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Tighten by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Tighten" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Tighten' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
* I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus it's exactly the sort of creepy thing he'd do.
* I figured she did it because she knew Megamind was a mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
* Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
* In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting that Roxanne and Megamind are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just doesn't realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a step back'.

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How
[[folder:Dotting the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up i]]

When flying above
the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, city and 2) Megamind created Tighten by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Tighten" as a writing his name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated
with his lair she laser vision, Tighten/Tighten takes a few photos of special care to dot the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of second 'i' in 'Tightenville'--but the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Tighten' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
first 'i' remains undotted.
* I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus it's isn't exactly the sort smartest or most careful of creepy thing he'd do.
* I figured she did it because she knew Megamind was a mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
* Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
* In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting that Roxanne and Megamind
men; chances are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just he doesn't realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a step back'.
really care. Although he might have been about to do the first one when Roxanne distracted him.
* He's not even smart enough to spell Tighten correctly, in fact!



[[folder:Faking death]]

Regarding Metro Man faking his death: since he basically made it look like Megamind killed him, wouldn't he be guilty of framing Megamind for murder? Granted, Megamind is a super-villain with a mile-long rap sheet and nobody would realistically take his side, but you really can't prosecute him for something he didn't really do.
* Well the people of Metro City never really got the chance to prosecute Megamind for the murder of Metro Man prior to the end of the film, did they? Someone else described Megamind's situation at the end of the film as being a lifetime of community service for his past transgressions, and even without the murder of Metro Man, Megamind is still "condemned" to be a hero for the rest of his life by the 88 life sentences he already had, thus the question of prosecuting him for the murder of Metro Man is rather a moot point, something the people of Metro City probably realized and thus didn't bother with either.
* I always assumed that Roxanne made it clear that Metro Man wasn't really dead, but for old time's sake held off from revealing where he really was or what he was really doing. Plus, everyone worshiped the ground the guy flew over and (in some cases literally) kissed his feet when he was juggling babies in mid-air; one suspects that Metro Man would have to do a lot worse to get the people of Metro City to have him arrested and jailed.
* He still committed kidnapping and attempted murder.

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[[folder:Dotting the i]]

When flying above the city and writing his name with his laser vision, Tighten/Tighten takes special care to dot the second 'i' in 'Tightenville'--but the first 'i' remains undotted.
* Hal isn't exactly the smartest or most careful of men; chances are he doesn't really care. Although he might have been about to do the first one when Roxanne distracted him.
* He's not even smart enough to spell Tighten correctly, in fact!

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** Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school? Metro Man's never been scared of Megamind or felt the need to take his "evil-doing" seriously; it's always been like a game to him, with no anger in it.

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** Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school? Metro Man's never been scared of Megamind or felt the need to take his "evil-doing" seriously; it's always been like a game to him, with no anger in it. Why ''wouldn't'' he think of Megamind as more like a buddy - albeit one whose butt he loves kicking at their mutual favorite sport - than an enemy?
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*** Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school?

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*** ** Even more than Metro Man being a pivotal figure in Megamind's life, Megamind seems to be the '''only''' figure in Metro Man's. The latter didn't consider Roxanne as anything more than a recurring rescuee-slash-TV interviewer, the regular citizens were just groupies he'd gotten tired of babysitting, and even his foster-parents were distant at best. Who ''else'' did he have a lasting relationship with, if not the little blue geek from his old school?school? Metro Man's never been scared of Megamind or felt the need to take his "evil-doing" seriously; it's always been like a game to him, with no anger in it.
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* The game actually has him fight new villains, but that might not be canon. On the other hand, Megamind very likely swore off any plans for making new villans and settled for the better safe than sorry route by nabbing generic criminals.


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* [[WebVideo/SchaffrillasProductions Schaffrillas]] addressed that question excellently [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-2Tjm2M2cg in his review]]. We don't know, it's all up to interpretation! Heck, he even posits a theory that it's actually Megaman's species that was evil all along.
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* I dunno dude(tte), Megamind seemed to enjoy his job and I really just got a vibe that he only changed because of her. Besides, the fight with Titan was just a "clean up the mess I made" sort of fight. It really just reminded this troper of comic book villains getting rid of an unwanted result. YMMV I guess.

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* I dunno dude(tte), Megamind seemed to enjoy his job and I really just got a vibe that he only changed because of her. Besides, the fight with Titan Tighten was just a "clean up the mess I made" sort of fight. It really just reminded this troper of comic book villains getting rid of an unwanted result. YMMV I guess.



* If it was just about change and ignoring who Megamind was, Roxanne would not have twisted the watch after Megamind scared Titan off as Metro Man - also prior to being rumbled, Megamind does start to consider genuinely improving the city as a result of actual positive social interaction which he's never really had before. In some respects his "make-a-hero" scheme is just a way to try and return to a dynamic he knows out of fear of things changing. Plus he'd already wrecked the town and found that the satisfaction of destruction is quite short lived.

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* If it was just about change and ignoring who Megamind was, Roxanne would not have twisted the watch after Megamind scared Titan Tighten off as Metro Man - also prior to being rumbled, Megamind does start to consider genuinely improving the city as a result of actual positive social interaction which he's never really had before. In some respects his "make-a-hero" scheme is just a way to try and return to a dynamic he knows out of fear of things changing. Plus he'd already wrecked the town and found that the satisfaction of destruction is quite short lived.



[[folder:Evil Titan]]

It bothers me that people accuse Titan of being evil. He was more like ChaoticStupid; While he did turn into a Jerkass, one with powers that made him dangerous, he was a victim of circumstances- he got the powers by accident, was told he could be a hero and that it would get him the girl, then she rejected him and dated a dork instead (from his POV) and his "mentor" turned out to be a villain, who mocked him to his face about it- such stuff would drive anyone mad. Sure he decided to be a villain intentionally, but even then the destruction he caused was more out of his lack of concern for people than acts of true, sadistic evil.
* Sadly, Titan ''was'' evil. In a way, this is his StartOfEvil story. Hal was an immature, dishonest, self-entitled, lazy guy who suddenly got super-powers. All he wanted was to be a hero in the limelight and get all the attention. Despite how much he enjoyed the adulation and limelight, Metro Man worked for his status as a hero and showed self-restraint. Hal had none of his restraint or empathy for others. He didn't exactly have the best mentor, either, with Megamind teaching him how to be a comic-book hero and not a responsible hero. It's telling that one of the Titan's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to steal random things he wanted, and this was before he was taunted by Megamind.

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Tighten]]

It bothers me that people accuse Titan Tighten of being evil. He was more like ChaoticStupid; While he did turn into a Jerkass, one with powers that made him dangerous, he was a victim of circumstances- he got the powers by accident, was told he could be a hero and that it would get him the girl, then she rejected him and dated a dork instead (from his POV) and his "mentor" turned out to be a villain, who mocked him to his face about it- such stuff would drive anyone mad. Sure he decided to be a villain intentionally, but even then the destruction he caused was more out of his lack of concern for people than acts of true, sadistic evil.
* Sadly, Titan Tighten ''was'' evil. In a way, this is his StartOfEvil story. Hal was an immature, dishonest, self-entitled, lazy guy who suddenly got super-powers. All he wanted was to be a hero in the limelight and get all the attention. Despite how much he enjoyed the adulation and limelight, Metro Man worked for his status as a hero and showed self-restraint. Hal had none of his restraint or empathy for others. He didn't exactly have the best mentor, either, with Megamind teaching him how to be a comic-book hero and not a responsible hero. It's telling that one of the Titan's Tighten's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to steal random things he wanted, and this was before he was taunted by Megamind.



[[folder:Dehydration gun and Titan]]

With as much exposure Megamind's dehydration gun got throughout the movie, to the point that he called his use of it an "old habit", why did he never even consider using it on Titan? He's still made of water, isn't he?

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Tighten]]

With as much exposure Megamind's dehydration gun got throughout the movie, to the point that he called his use of it an "old habit", why did he never even consider using it on Titan? Tighten? He's still made of water, isn't he?



* It's highly likely -- almost certain, in fact -- that Megamind has tried the Dehydration Gun on Metro Man at some point in the past and for whatever reason (perhaps mentioned above, perhaps different) it didn't work. And if it didn't work on Metro Man then, it's not gonna work on Titan now.

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* It's highly likely -- almost certain, in fact -- that Megamind has tried the Dehydration Gun on Metro Man at some point in the past and for whatever reason (perhaps mentioned above, perhaps different) it didn't work. And if it didn't work on Metro Man then, it's not gonna work on Titan Tighten now.



Does Megamind believe in God? When he's trying to get Titan to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. IDK, I was just wondering. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?

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Does Megamind believe in God? When he's trying to get Titan Tighten to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. IDK, I was just wondering. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?



How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Titan by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Titan" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Titan' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.

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How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Titan Tighten by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Titan" "Tighten" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
* 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Titan' 'Tighten' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.



When flying above the city and writing his name with his laser vision, Titan/Tighten takes special care to dot the second 'i' in 'Tightenville'--but the first 'i' remains undotted.

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When flying above the city and writing his name with his laser vision, Titan/Tighten Tighten/Tighten takes special care to dot the second 'i' in 'Tightenville'--but the first 'i' remains undotted.



* He's not even smart enough to spell Titan correctly, in fact!

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* He's not even smart enough to spell Titan Tighten correctly, in fact!



[[folder:Defeating Titan]]

Why in the world would the city want Megamind to defeat Titan? Sure, Titan's evil, but no more so than Megamind. Especially from the viewpoint of a civilian who knew nothing of the story and Megamind's FaceHeelTurn (some might call it VillainDecay), there is absolutely nothing to cheer about when Megamind defeats Titan. All they know is they're under the thumb of a far more intelligent tyrant.
* Because Titan ''was'' more evil than Megamind; from everything we can gather, while Megamind robbed banks, kidnapped a journalist every so often and apparently killed the city's previous hero, Titan was ''going to destroy the entire city'', something which Megamind had shown no desire or interest in doing. Put simply, the former was definitely being a dick, but the latter was worse by far.
* According to the first news-report on Titan, "the city has never seen this level of destruction", and the things we are shown do back this up to a degree - after all, Megamind marks his name in the city by painting it with blue paint all over the place, Titan marks it ''by burning it into the ground with giant letters''. Megamind played darts with cars, Titan flew around the city burning everything he looked at... the far more intelligent tyrant would seem to be the safer bet.
* When Megamind takes over the city, what does he say? He makes a big theatrical display, proclaims his future reign of informed evil, and then tells everyone to "carry on with the dreary, normal things, normal people do." When Titan takes over the city, what does he do? "Oh, I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management." Then he ''flicks'' the nearest guy across the road. When Megamind is control, the city carries on with a little bit more paint and some money floating around the downtown corridor; when Titan is in control, the city ''evacuates''; all those people fleeing the city at the end of the film are people who didn't bother to go anywhere when it was just Megamind they had to worry about, because Megamind just makes a show about being evil, whereas Titan actually is.

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Tighten]]

Why in the world would the city want Megamind to defeat Titan? Tighten? Sure, Titan's Tighten's evil, but no more so than Megamind. Especially from the viewpoint of a civilian who knew nothing of the story and Megamind's FaceHeelTurn (some might call it VillainDecay), there is absolutely nothing to cheer about when Megamind defeats Titan.Tighten. All they know is they're under the thumb of a far more intelligent tyrant.
* Because Titan Tighten ''was'' more evil than Megamind; from everything we can gather, while Megamind robbed banks, kidnapped a journalist every so often and apparently killed the city's previous hero, Titan Tighten was ''going to destroy the entire city'', something which Megamind had shown no desire or interest in doing. Put simply, the former was definitely being a dick, but the latter was worse by far.
* According to the first news-report on Titan, Tighten, "the city has never seen this level of destruction", and the things we are shown do back this up to a degree - after all, Megamind marks his name in the city by painting it with blue paint all over the place, Titan Tighten marks it ''by burning it into the ground with giant letters''. Megamind played darts with cars, Titan Tighten flew around the city burning everything he looked at... the far more intelligent tyrant would seem to be the safer bet.
* When Megamind takes over the city, what does he say? He makes a big theatrical display, proclaims his future reign of informed evil, and then tells everyone to "carry on with the dreary, normal things, normal people do." When Titan Tighten takes over the city, what does he do? "Oh, I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management." Then he ''flicks'' the nearest guy across the road. When Megamind is control, the city carries on with a little bit more paint and some money floating around the downtown corridor; when Titan Tighten is in control, the city ''evacuates''; all those people fleeing the city at the end of the film are people who didn't bother to go anywhere when it was just Megamind they had to worry about, because Megamind just makes a show about being evil, whereas Titan Tighten actually is.



An honest Headscratcher? This movie was trying to reinvent how you thought of "villains" and "heroes", i.e. the real villain in flaming white tights, and the real hero in spiky black leather. But the real villain, Titan, had an overweight face, crazy hair, and a permanent sneer, while the hero Megamind had huge shiny eyes and... long eyelashes? The point of the movie was to make you see past the book cover, but you can still tell who the good/bad guy is here. If titan was handsome, it would have been amazing.
* I honestly didn't know the movie was trying to reinvent the way you thought of villains and heroes. But I think most people in fandom find Titan pretty good looking. Hal doesn't look that bad, really, and Megamind is... well... an alien from outer space, you know.

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An honest Headscratcher? This movie was trying to reinvent how you thought of "villains" and "heroes", i.e. the real villain in flaming white tights, and the real hero in spiky black leather. But the real villain, Titan, Tighten, had an overweight face, crazy hair, and a permanent sneer, while the hero Megamind had huge shiny eyes and... long eyelashes? The point of the movie was to make you see past the book cover, but you can still tell who the good/bad guy is here. If titan was handsome, it would have been amazing.
* I honestly didn't know the movie was trying to reinvent the way you thought of villains and heroes. But I think most people in fandom find Titan Tighten pretty good looking. Hal doesn't look that bad, really, and Megamind is... well... an alien from outer space, you know.



* Roxanne doesn't actively affect the plot, but she is the catalyst for every major event. She was the one who inspired Megamind out of his funk. She was the one who later caused him to give a damn about other people. It was because of her both Megamind and Titan later went on a rampage. She was the one who again inspired Megamind to take on the hero role. She may not have changed anything herself, but if it wasn't for her, nothing would have changed.

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* Roxanne doesn't actively affect the plot, but she is the catalyst for every major event. She was the one who inspired Megamind out of his funk. She was the one who later caused him to give a damn about other people. It was because of her both Megamind and Titan Tighten later went on a rampage. She was the one who again inspired Megamind to take on the hero role. She may not have changed anything herself, but if it wasn't for her, nothing would have changed.



Post-movie, isn't the whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in reverse now that Megamind is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of, and I can't see him deciding to create his own villain after what happened with Titan.

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Post-movie, isn't the whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in reverse now that Megamind is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of, and I can't see him deciding to create his own villain after what happened with Titan.Tighten.



Where did the infusion/defusion gun go after Megamind used it to remove Titan's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There is a wide shot after that, and the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there). If Megamind had simply dropped the gun into the fountain it might not be visible in the wide shot. But that would be careless (to say the least), given that the gun, in its charged state, could be used to give Metro Man's powers to someone else, potentially creating another problem like the one Megamind and Roxanne just spent a third of the movie solving.

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Where did the infusion/defusion gun go after Megamind used it to remove Titan's Tighten's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There is a wide shot after that, and the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there). If Megamind had simply dropped the gun into the fountain it might not be visible in the wide shot. But that would be careless (to say the least), given that the gun, in its charged state, could be used to give Metro Man's powers to someone else, potentially creating another problem like the one Megamind and Roxanne just spent a third of the movie solving.



Megamind was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose his own reign. He '''created''' the very Titan problem he eventually had to solve. So why, when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a hero, and let him go unpunished?

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Megamind was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose his own reign. He '''created''' the very Titan Tighten problem he eventually had to solve. So why, when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a hero, and let him go unpunished?



* Hey, a hero doesn't need to be great friends with somebody to rescue them if they're kidnapped by a nemesis. Megamind might have had to find a new person to be his hostage. Like Hal. But it's pretty obvious that Megamind doesn't handle change all that well. Maybe that's why he overlooked Roxanne. Plus, she would have looked really HOT in a female version of the Titan suit.

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* Hey, a hero doesn't need to be great friends with somebody to rescue them if they're kidnapped by a nemesis. Megamind might have had to find a new person to be his hostage. Like Hal. But it's pretty obvious that Megamind doesn't handle change all that well. Maybe that's why he overlooked Roxanne. Plus, she would have looked really HOT in a female version of the Titan Tighten suit.



* We lose sight of him a few times when he's chasing Titan around in his Metro Man guise; he could've slipped back to grab some gear from Minion then, just in case Titan called his bluff during the pursuit.

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* We lose sight of him a few times when he's chasing Titan Tighten around in his Metro Man guise; he could've slipped back to grab some gear from Minion then, just in case Titan Tighten called his bluff during the pursuit.



* When Megamind impersonated Metro Man, he was using his flight ability and strength to take on Titan/Tighten. Megamind is super intelligent, but he doesn't have super strength and flight.
* He was wearing rocket boots and what appeared to be extremely powerful fighting gauntlets underneath the disguise. Also worth noting that he never really got into a fight with Tighten/Titan while wearing the disguise -- he basically just chased him around and let Tighten/Titan's own fear do the rest.

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* When Megamind impersonated Metro Man, he was using his flight ability and strength to take on Titan/Tighten.Tighten/Tighten. Megamind is super intelligent, but he doesn't have super strength and flight.
* He was wearing rocket boots and what appeared to be extremely powerful fighting gauntlets underneath the disguise. Also worth noting that he never really got into a fight with Tighten/Titan Tighten/Tighten while wearing the disguise -- he basically just chased him around and let Tighten/Titan's Tighten/Tighten's own fear do the rest.



* He's going to create a new identity for himself; in essence, he's going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And since it was pretty clear that Megamind clearly wasn't going to become much of a dictator -- for all his supervillainy, when you look closely at it is Megamind's post-Metro Man pre-Titan activities were basically a large-scale robbery spree mixed with what is essentially glorified vandalism -- he probably wouldn't have had too much trouble. It's not like Megamind was exercising strict censorship of the arts, after all.

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* He's going to create a new identity for himself; in essence, he's going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And since it was pretty clear that Megamind clearly wasn't going to become much of a dictator -- for all his supervillainy, when you look closely at it is Megamind's post-Metro Man pre-Titan pre-Tighten activities were basically a large-scale robbery spree mixed with what is essentially glorified vandalism -- he probably wouldn't have had too much trouble. It's not like Megamind was exercising strict censorship of the arts, after all.



It really bothers me that Megamind is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable of doing genuinely evil things (in contrast to the real bad guy Titan). Except that, you know, he ''murders a guy and cheers about it''. Yes, Metro Man didn't really die but Megamind wasn't aware of that; for all he knew, he killed another human(oid) being, and was clearly enjoying it. He only regretted it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. (Not to mention that you don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing. Even with the rampant prejudice against blue aliens, or provided that Metro City has an incredibly harsh justice system, you gotta do some pretty fucked-up shit to get this much. This is obviously a humorous exaggeration, but after Metro Man's faked death one has to wonder just what other crimes Megamind committed to warrant several thousand years in prison.)

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It really bothers me that Megamind is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable of doing genuinely evil things (in contrast to the real bad guy Titan).Tighten). Except that, you know, he ''murders a guy and cheers about it''. Yes, Metro Man didn't really die but Megamind wasn't aware of that; for all he knew, he killed another human(oid) being, and was clearly enjoying it. He only regretted it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. (Not to mention that you don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing. Even with the rampant prejudice against blue aliens, or provided that Metro City has an incredibly harsh justice system, you gotta do some pretty fucked-up shit to get this much. This is obviously a humorous exaggeration, but after Metro Man's faked death one has to wonder just what other crimes Megamind committed to warrant several thousand years in prison.)



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* Because he didn't have the infuser gun and used up all the Metroman DNA he had to work with when he made Titan.

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* Because he didn't have the infuser gun and used up all the Metroman DNA he had to work with when he made Titan.Tighten.



* Counterpoint: Doing that backfired ''spectacularly'' the first time. And Titan is still invincible. At best you'd have a stalemate.

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* Counterpoint: Doing that backfired ''spectacularly'' the first time. And Titan Tighten is still invincible. At best you'd have a stalemate.
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* It's possible that Hal had enough basic technological know-how to become a cameraman through a temp agency, or maybe an internship, if we were to assume he was working on school at the moment. For all we know about Hal, he doesn't seem to have any responsibility at the news network beyond working with the camera, so considering how he may have only had the bare minimum skills to even do the work he had, Minion's statement about his lack of accomplishments may hold some water.

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* It's possible that Hal had enough basic technological know-how to become a cameraman through a temp agency, or maybe an internship, if we were to assume he was working on school at the moment. For all we know about Hal, he doesn't seem to have any responsibility at the news network beyond working with the camera, so considering how he may have only had the bare minimum of skills to even do the work he had, Minion's statement about his lack of accomplishments may hold some water.
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* It's possible that Hal had enough basic technological know-how to become a cameraman through a temp agency, or maybe an internship, if we were to assume he was working on school at the moment. For all we know about Hal, he doesn't seem to have any responsibility at the news network beyond working with the camera, so considering how he may have only had the bare minimum skills to even do the work he had, Minion's statement about his lack of accomplishments may hold some water.
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Why didn't Metro Man use his superspeed to avoid being seen by Roxanne and Megamind? Did he suddenly forget about it?
* His expression was one of pure shock, so he was probably too startled to think to use it.
* He looked like he could barely think of trying to sneak away.
* Since the whole point of him faking his death and going under the radar was because he was sick of being a superhero, it's possible he's made a conscious decision not to use his powers.

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Why *Why didn't Metro Man use his superspeed to avoid being seen by Roxanne and Megamind? Did he suddenly forget about it?
* ** His expression was one of pure shock, so he was probably too startled to think to use it.
* ** He looked like he could barely think of trying to sneak away.
* ** Since the whole point of him faking his death and going under the radar was because he was sick of being a superhero, it's possible he's made a conscious decision not to use his powers.
** His superspeed has effects on the area around him. Watch when he uses it earlier in the film. It disrupts the air and causes object around him to move.
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** But that still begs the question of exactly how moving Megamind far away from the city really fast would actually do anything to meaningfully address the problem rather than just putting him in jail or doing anything else. Clearly Metro Man does not want to kill Megamind, otherwise he would have, and if that is the only real advantage to doing it then again — how would that help?

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** But that still begs the question of exactly how moving Megamind far away from the city really fast would actually do anything to meaningfully address or improve the problem rather than situation as opposed to Metro Man doing what he does already (namely, just putting him in jail or or, really, doing anything else. else). Clearly Metro Man does not want to kill Megamind, otherwise he would have, and if that is the only real advantage to doing it it, then again — how would that help?help? What is the advantage or benefit?
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** But that still begs the question of exactly how moving Megamind far away from the city really fast would actually do anything to meaningfully address the problem rather than just putting him in jail or doing anything else. Clearly Metro Man does not want to kill Megamind, otherwise he would have, and if that is the only real advantage to doing it then again — how would that help?
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** So is getting him to jail. They should have learned that. I think super-speed power can be used much more creatively to offput Megamind. It's a huge power. The only obstacle would be Metro Man not wanting to kill Megamind.
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* How would that help? Even if Megamind is taken out of the city, there are such things as trains, planes, cars, buses and various other forms of transport enabling him to get back.

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* How would that help? Even if Megamind is taken out of the city, there are such things as trains, planes, cars, buses and various other forms of transport enabling him to get back. It doesn't solve the problem, it just temporarily inconveniences him.
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If he had super-speed, why didn't he use it to move Megamind from the city very far away? Of course, when their rivalry first began, when he wasn't bored of his life.
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* In his Bernard disguise, Megamind presents the idea (to investigate the ‘Exit’ door) only after telling Roxanne, ''"I better take the lead."'' This suggests that he wasn't sending her to the dangerous doorway on her own.

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* In his Bernard disguise, Megamind presents offers to take the lead before presenting Roxanne with the idea (to investigate of investigating the ‘Exit’ door) only after telling Roxanne, ''"I better take the lead."'' door. This suggests that he wasn't sending her to the dangerous doorway on her own. own.



** Example 1, While on the phone with Roxanne: ''"What? Oh, no, not you, Roxanne. No. I was just yelling at my... mother's urn. Don't do anything. I'll be right there."''
** Example 2, Between Roxanne and Megamind in his Bernard disguise: ''"Wait. How did you get here so fast?" "Well, I, uh… I happened to be speed-walking nearby when you called." "In a suit?" "Uh-huh. It's called, 'formal speed-walking.' But that's not important."''
** (This troper imagines Megamind, in his Bernard disguise, taking Roxanne on a guided tour that includes the 'Exit' door and still avoids "all of [his] secrets.")
* By the RuleOfFunny, Megamind never has any reason to offer Roxanne the door marked, 'Exit’--except to incite humorous in-character moments on behalf of the movie audience. First, Megamind in his Bernard disguise offers Roxanne a distraction after she enters the Secret Hideout- ''"This way looks exciting!"''- but Roxanne isn't fooled- ''"No. It says, 'Exit.' "''- and so Megamind naively tries to persuade her again- ''"Uh, which is the abbreviation for 'exciting,' right?"'' That moment later becomes a BrickJoke and Laconic/HilariousInHindsight when Roxanne opens the door fully intending to leave--and instead finds a loud, colorful disco party for alligators with squeaky toys. Her cheerful follow-up remark to Bernard (after he pulls her back from the doorway), ''"You were right about that door being exciting,"'' gives the audience a moment to reflect on and catch up with the BrickJoke. Finally, after multiple viewings of the scene (or the entire movie), one might begin to wonder if Megamind truly is uninformed about what a typical 'Exit' sign means—that he perhaps genuinely assumes 'EXIT' is the label any interior decorator would normally put up over their exciting room doorway. (''Just go past the living room and down the hall; you can't miss it!'')
* After multiple viewings of the film, one can catch sight of Megamind- without his Bernard disguise- as he runs around a corner, just in time to see Roxanne go through the 'Exit' door. He’s visible only from a distance, and slightly blurred (to help keep the audience’s eyes on Roxanne in the foreground)--but one can see (while pausing the movie) that his eyes are wide open as he stops mid-run and stares at the door. During that point in the plot, Roxanne has already: (1) photographed his create-a-new-hero plans, (2) warned Bernard to run, (3) wrestled with Megamind out-of-disguise, (4) misfired (and abandoned) the DNA gun—and so, in the moment that Megamind sees her walk through the ‘Exit’ door, his purely-as-a-villain motive and focus would’ve technically been to investigate newly-infused Hal even at the cost of disregarding Roxanne. But, he does no such thing--though it’s only off-screen that Megamind runs to the door, puts on his Bernard disguise as he goes, and pulls Roxanne out to safety, one can conclude that this happens based on everything else portrayed. Even the tiny image of Megamind in the background, catching sight of Roxanne's mistake, leaves room for one to consider Megamind's feeling towards Roxanne and how it motivates his actions. He doesn’t ignore her, but runs to her aid, and even takes a second to restore his Bernard disguise (instead of keeping it off) in time for her to hear and see him. (He probably does so, well aware that Roxanne wouldn’t reject or be suspicious of Bernard-disguise’s helping hand like she would Megamind’s out-of-disguise hand.) With all of the evidence this scene provides, Megamind appears to have no intention or desire to lead Roxanne to the 'Exit' door and leave her there.

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** Example 1, While 1: on the phone with Roxanne: ''"What? Oh, no, not you, Roxanne. No. I Roxanne, he explains away his background noise- throwing accusations at Minion- by telling her that he was just “just yelling at my... mother's urn. Don't do anything. I'll be right there."''
** Example 2, Between Roxanne and Megamind
[his] mother’s urn.” The pauses in his Bernard disguise: ''"Wait. How did you get here so fast?" "Well, I, uh… I happened to be speed-walking nearby when you called." "In a suit?" "Uh-huh. It's called, 'formal speed-walking.' But that's not important."''
** (This troper imagines Megamind, in
sentences, and the movements of his Bernard disguise, taking Roxanne on a guided tour eyes, both indicate that includes the 'Exit' door and still avoids "all of [his] secrets.")
* By the RuleOfFunny, Megamind never has any reason to offer Roxanne the door marked, 'Exit’--except to incite humorous in-character moments on behalf of the movie audience. First, Megamind in his Bernard disguise offers Roxanne a distraction after she enters the Secret Hideout- ''"This way looks exciting!"''- but Roxanne isn't fooled- ''"No. It says, 'Exit.' "''- and so Megamind naively tries to persuade her again- ''"Uh, which is the abbreviation for 'exciting,' right?"'' That moment later becomes a BrickJoke and Laconic/HilariousInHindsight when Roxanne opens the door fully intending to leave--and instead finds a loud, colorful disco party for alligators with squeaky toys. Her cheerful follow-up remark to Bernard (after he pulls her back from the doorway), ''"You were right about that door being exciting,"'' gives the audience a moment to reflect on and catch up with the BrickJoke. Finally, after multiple viewings of the scene (or the entire movie), one might begin to wonder if Megamind truly is uninformed about what a typical 'Exit' sign means—that he perhaps genuinely assumes 'EXIT' is the label any interior decorator would normally put up over their exciting room doorway. (''Just go past the living room and down the hall; you can't miss it!'')
* After multiple viewings of the film, one can catch sight of Megamind-
he’s forming an explanation without his Bernard disguise- as he runs around a corner, just in time to see Roxanne go through the 'Exit' door. He’s visible only from a distance, and slightly blurred (to help keep the audience’s eyes on Roxanne in the foreground)--but one can see (while pausing the movie) that his eyes are wide open as he stops mid-run and stares at the door. During that point in the plot, Roxanne has already: (1) photographed his create-a-new-hero plans, (2) warned Bernard to run, (3) wrestled with Megamind out-of-disguise, (4) misfired (and abandoned) the DNA gun—and so, in the moment that Megamind sees her walk through the ‘Exit’ door, his purely-as-a-villain motive and focus would’ve technically been to investigate newly-infused Hal even at the cost of disregarding Roxanne. But, he does no such thing--though it’s only off-screen that Megamind runs to the door, puts on his Bernard disguise as he goes, and pulls Roxanne out to safety, one can conclude that this happens based on everything else portrayed. Even the tiny image of Megamind in the background, catching sight of Roxanne's mistake, leaves room for one to consider Megamind's feeling towards Roxanne and how it motivates his actions. He doesn’t ignore her, but runs to her aid, and even takes a second to restore his Bernard disguise (instead of keeping it off) in time for her to hear and see him. (He probably does so, well aware that Roxanne wouldn’t reject or be suspicious of Bernard-disguise’s helping hand like she would Megamind’s out-of-disguise hand.) With all of the evidence this scene provides, Megamind appears to have no intention or desire to lead Roxanne to the 'Exit' door and leave her there.forethought.
** Example 2: when Roxanne asks about his fast arrival, Megamind in his Bernard disguise tells her that he was speed-walking—and, once she questions his choice of attire (suit coat), he assents deliberateness and adds, “It’s called, ‘formal speed-walking.’” The pauses in his sentences, the movements of his eyes, and his exaggerated arm gestures (a speed-walking demonstration), signal his improvisation.
* By RuleOfFunny: Megamind has no reason to point out the door marked 'Exit’ except to generate in-character comedy for the movie audience to enjoy.
** Megamind’s observation- that the ‘Exit’ door looks like an exciting way to go, with ‘Exit’ being short for ‘exciting’- stands independently as a joke. After Roxanne returns to the door with the intent to leave, the original subject of the joke returns comically as a ChekhovsGag. Then, through Roxanne’s cheerful remark that he was “right about that door being exciting,” the movie audience gets a chance to catch up with the BrickJoke.
** On later viewings of the film, the audience might even perceive that the ‘Exit’-for-‘exciting’ comment conveys Megamind’s genuine AcronymConfusion (as another example of his Laconic/PoirotSpeak). This would add yet another layer of humor.

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* In his Bernard disguise, Megamind presents the idea (to investigate the ‘Exit’ door) only after telling Roxanne, ''"I better take the lead."'' This suggests that he wasn't sending her to the dangerous doorway on her own.
* Since the option of immediately going to the ‘Exit’ door is discussed, but then the action is never taken, it's uncertain whether Megamind intended to open the door for her and point inside, or exactly what other gestures he would've made upon reaching the door. But, based on the surrounding dialogue, he appears to be making things up on the spot—and not planning much further in advance.
** Example 1, While on the phone with Roxanne: ''"What? Oh, no, not you, Roxanne. No. I was just yelling at my... mother's urn. Don't do anything. I'll be right there."''
** Example 2, Between Roxanne and Megamind in his Bernard disguise: ''"Wait. How did you get here so fast?" "Well, I, uh… I happened to be speed-walking nearby when you called." "In a suit?" "Uh-huh. It's called, 'formal speed-walking.' But that's not important."''
** (This troper imagines Megamind, in his Bernard disguise, taking Roxanne on a guided tour that includes the 'Exit' door and still avoids "all of [his] secrets.")
* By the RuleOfFunny, Megamind never has any reason to offer Roxanne the door marked, 'Exit’--except to incite humorous in-character moments on behalf of the movie audience. First, Megamind in his Bernard disguise offers Roxanne a distraction after she enters the Secret Hideout- ''"This way looks exciting!"''- but Roxanne isn't fooled- ''"No. It says, 'Exit.' "''- and so Megamind naively tries to persuade her again- ''"Uh, which is the abbreviation for 'exciting,' right?"'' That moment later becomes a BrickJoke and Laconic/HilariousInHindsight when Roxanne opens the door fully intending to leave--and instead finds a loud, colorful disco party for alligators with squeaky toys. Her cheerful follow-up remark to Bernard (after he pulls her back from the doorway), ''"You were right about that door being exciting,"'' gives the audience a moment to reflect on and catch up with the BrickJoke. Finally, after multiple viewings of the scene (or the entire movie), one might begin to wonder if Megamind truly is uninformed about what a typical 'Exit' sign means—that he perhaps genuinely assumes 'EXIT' is the label any interior decorator would normally put up over their exciting room doorway. (''Just go past the living room and down the hall; you can't miss it!'')
* After multiple viewings of the film, one can catch sight of Megamind- without his Bernard disguise- as he runs around a corner, just in time to see Roxanne go through the 'Exit' door. He’s visible only from a distance, and slightly blurred (to help keep the audience’s eyes on Roxanne in the foreground)--but one can see (while pausing the movie) that his eyes are wide open as he stops mid-run and stares at the door. During that point in the plot, Roxanne has already: (1) photographed his create-a-new-hero plans, (2) warned Bernard to run, (3) wrestled with Megamind out-of-disguise, (4) misfired (and abandoned) the DNA gun—and so, in the moment that Megamind sees her walk through the ‘Exit’ door, his purely-as-a-villain motive and focus would’ve technically been to investigate newly-infused Hal even at the cost of disregarding Roxanne. But, he does no such thing--though it’s only off-screen that Megamind runs to the door, puts on his Bernard disguise as he goes, and pulls Roxanne out to safety, one can conclude that this happens based on everything else portrayed. Even the tiny image of Megamind in the background, catching sight of Roxanne's mistake, leaves room for one to consider Megamind's feeling towards Roxanne and how it motivates his actions. He doesn’t ignore her, but runs to her aid, and even takes a second to restore his Bernard disguise (instead of keeping it off) in time for her to hear and see him. (He probably does so, well aware that Roxanne wouldn’t reject or be suspicious of Bernard-disguise’s helping hand like she would Megamind’s out-of-disguise hand.) With all of the evidence this scene provides, Megamind appears to have no intention or desire to lead Roxanne to the 'Exit' door and leave her there.
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* Point out where the Invisible Car is in the nick of time, maybe?

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* Regarding, "''the depowered Hal is also oddly not there''"--upon multiple viewings of the movie, one can find that he's actually shown at the very beginning of the shot. Hal is clearest to view by pausing the film- right after Minion's "''We did it!''" and right before Megamind turns to Roxanne, laughing, to add, "''Fist pump!''"- with Hal's face bowed while two police officers' backs are shown (presumably readying him for jail).

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* In scenes that include Hal, following Metro Man's assumed destruction, the audience is shown more aspects of Hal's personality (in addition to his predominant NoMeansYes interactions with Roxanne)--through subtle behaviors that don't compliment his character. To answer the question, "''was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers?''", here are some examples:
** During Megamind's Q&A session in front of City Hall, Hal openly chews gum- occasionally revealing a large (though likely unintentional) smile- while he's filming live, whether it's Roxanne or Megamind who he points the camera at. Hal's characteristics on display here are primarily carelessness, and in second place irreverence.
** In the same scene, Hal is shown to have changed out of his "Error 404 Request Not Found" shirt (worn earlier the same day) into his "Game Over" shirt--which was a deliberate choice, even if it happened off-screen, because it contrasts Roxanne's appearance entirely (she went immediately from her role as a hostage into her role as a news reporter without so much as wiping off the Death Ray explosion's ash from her face). Hal's action conveys his previously indicated passive-aggressive contempt for Metro Man, or perhaps mocks the reaction of the people around him (as he, by contrast, appears ambivalent).
** After Roxanne's dismal evening report in front of the nearly-empty Metro Man Museum, Hal is openly cheery. His behavior demonstrates that he's not even Roxanne's friend: he's about to invite her to his apartment, and he either ignores how she's feeling or else he somehow can't perceive it.
** While filming in front of Megamind's Secret Hideout, even though Hal has the camera pointed at Roxanne the entire time, he doesn't see her disappear through a wall--and doesn't notice her absence immediately, either. (There is enough time, before Hal notices: for Megamind and Minion's witty banter, for Minion with DNA Gun in hand to be hidden in a tall metal cabinet, for Megamind to close a long curtain in front of his create-a-hero plans and to answer Roxanne's confusion over the phone.) In this way, Hal shows that he isn't looking (paying attention) even when he is looking--no exceptions for Roxanne.
** Yet, when Hal opposes Roxanne's word later in the same scene, to tell Bernard, "''She doesn't know what she's saying, she's been through a traumatic experience,''" it unravels the aforementioned possibility that Hal somehow can't perceive Roxanne's unhappiness. His conversation with Bernard proves that he's selective (rather than unknowing) when it comes to what he sees--and that for the most part, he wants to view Roxanne (and his other surroundings) after a manner of his own making, not as they actually are.
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* I know [[WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}} this movie]] lives on RuleOfFunny (a child grows up in a cell?), but really; how come Roxanne didn't realize "Bernard" was really Megamind? The voice, the posture, the attitude... didn't she find odd that Bernard had changed so dramatically?
** Well she didn't know Bernard at all. She barely even knew his name - she gets it wrong at first. To her, he was just the guy who worked at the museum - which hadn't even been open that long. Presumably she thought that this was how Bernard was when he was not at work and opened up a bit. A little later, Megamind told her himself about being a lonely child, which would just have cemented this explanation.
** Metro Man's death really affected her, and seeing someone else react similarly was familiar to her. It didn't seem strange that he was so emotional about it because she was so emotional about it.
** Also, remember that Roxanne didn't know Megamind on a personal, friendly level either - just as the villain who was always kidnapping her. Somebody kidnapping you doesn't give you a great opportunity to get to know them on a personal level.
** Plus, as Bernard, Megamind is talking normally, like he would to Minion or his Brainbots. Roxanne only knows Megamind as the IncomingHam with NoIndoorVoice. It's a huge stretch to go from "WELL I BET YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING THIS!" to "Oh... I was speed-walking nearby..." "In a suit?" "Yes, it's called formal speed-walking."

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* I know [[WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}} this movie]] lives on RuleOfFunny (a child grows up in a cell?), but really; how come Roxanne didn't realize "Bernard" was really Megamind? The voice, the posture, the attitude... didn't she find odd that Bernard had changed so dramatically?
** * Well she didn't know Bernard at all. She barely even knew his name - she gets it wrong at first. To her, he was just the guy who worked at the museum - which hadn't even been open that long. Presumably she thought that this was how Bernard was when he was not at work and opened up a bit. A little later, Megamind told her himself about being a lonely child, which would just have cemented this explanation.
** * Metro Man's death really affected her, and seeing someone else react similarly was familiar to her. It didn't seem strange that he was so emotional about it because she was so emotional about it.
** * Also, remember that Roxanne didn't know Megamind on a personal, friendly level either - just as the villain who was always kidnapping her. Somebody kidnapping you doesn't give you a great opportunity to get to know them on a personal level.
** * Plus, as Bernard, Megamind is talking normally, like he would to Minion or his Brainbots. Roxanne only knows Megamind as the IncomingHam with NoIndoorVoice. It's a huge stretch to go from "WELL I BET YOU WEREN'T EXPECTING THIS!" to "Oh... I was speed-walking nearby..." "In a suit?" "Yes, it's called formal speed-walking."



* Am I the only one that thought Roxanne not wanting Megamind as he was, but once he had a HeelFaceTurn, a tad annoying? "Remember kids, if the person you like isn't how you like them, with enough effort, you can change them!" What.
** I dunno dude(tte), Megamind seemed to enjoy his job and I really just got a vibe that he only changed because of her. Besides, the fight with Titan was just a "clean up the mess I made" sort of fight. It really just reminded this troper of comic book villains getting rid of an unwanted result. YMMV I guess.
** I think the reason was the shock at finding out her new boyfriend was the very villain that had always kidnapped her. Not to mention her pointed list about his content form her point of view: Killing Metro Man even though he really didn't, taking over the city, and tricking her into caring for him. Her look back as she left and her expression at his comments about not getting the girl I think proved she did like the ''real'' Megamind beneath the whole [[LargeHam hammy]] [[CardCarryingVillain villain]] act. All the HeelFaceTurn did was allow them to be together without the watch.
** His training of Hal showed that Megamind totally loves the superhero/supervillain dynamic, and just wants to be a part of it, regardless of which side he's on. Being a good guy just lets him win, and he's GenreSavvy enough to realize this. Like a dedicated pro wrestler, he just loves the business, regardless of if he's playing a face or a heel. This is highlighted when he says that Hal isn't even a supervillain, just a regular villain that happens to have superpowers. It's all part of the game for him. In this way, he's almost like a caped version of HatesTheJobLovesTheLimelight. It's also why he's indignant that Hal isn't acting like either a proper superhero (i.e. Hal only caring about himself and using his powers for selfish purposes) or a proper supervillain (because a proper supervillain is more concerned with the style and image than actual evil deeds).
** Regarding her not wanting him as he was, if you watch carefully, she actually starts to forgive him well before he completes his HeelFaceTurn. She lets him into her apartment, even though the last time they spoke was when she broke up with him, and some of the looks she gives him when they go to find Metro Man imply that she's slowly cooling off from her initial, completely reasonable anger over his deception.
** Also don't forget that the movie makes the point to show that Megamind didn't become a villain because he's a bad person, it's because every earnest attempt to be liked backfired so much that he decided to be 'bad with style'. Roxanne even says things would have been different if they went to the same school, and it most likely would have been; if he had just one person like him for who he was ''then'', then he wouldn't be a villain ''now''. In a sense, Megamind turning good really ''is'' him being himself, instead of taking the role that everyone expected of him.
** What? You're seriously mad at her for not wanting to be with him while he was a supervillain, terrorizing the city, after killing except not really Metro Man, after he lied to her? This isn't the same as not liking someone because of the way they dress, or they've got an annoying habit- he's a villain! Him changing (or, if you prefer, being the person he really is) shows that he really does care about people ''and'' that he's not evil. And that him caring for her wasn't an act, which she seemed to think it was.
** The thing about BeYourself as a trope, the ''problem'' with it that people don't tend to get at times is, well, to be blunt there might be problems with 'yourself' that need to be addressed and improved. 'Yourself' might not actually be very good at all. You at times actually may need to improve and change 'yourself' to get what you want. There's no point in saying 'love me for who I am' if 'who I am' is a complete asshole -- and, let's face it, for all that he had a good core underneath, Megamind very clearly was an asshole, at least to some degree. He was still a supervillain who terrorized the city and kidnapped and lied to Roxanne, so it's not unreasonable that Roxanne might view that as a bit of a stumbling block to starting a relationship with him, and that he might need to change that aspect of himself if he was to get anywhere with her..
** Also, I'll point out the OP has it backward. Roxanne didn't change Megamind so she would like him. Megamind ''decided'' to change ''himself''. He saw that who and what he was was keeping him from being with the person he wanted to be with, so he changed in a positive way -- like getting into shape because you realize the girl you like doesn't want to be with a fat slob.
** If it was just about change and ignoring who Megamind was, Roxanne would not have twisted the watch after Megamind scared Titan off as Metro Man - also prior to being rumbled, Megamind does start to consider genuinely improving the city as a result of actual positive social interaction which he's never really had before. In some respects his "make-a-hero" scheme is just a way to try and return to a dynamic he knows out of fear of things changing. Plus he'd already wrecked the town and found that the satisfaction of destruction is quite short lived.

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* Am I the only one that thought Roxanne not wanting Megamind as he was, but once he had a HeelFaceTurn, a tad annoying? "Remember kids, if the person you like isn't how you like them, with enough effort, you can change them!" What.
** * I dunno dude(tte), Megamind seemed to enjoy his job and I really just got a vibe that he only changed because of her. Besides, the fight with Titan was just a "clean up the mess I made" sort of fight. It really just reminded this troper of comic book villains getting rid of an unwanted result. YMMV I guess.
** * I think the reason was the shock at finding out her new boyfriend was the very villain that had always kidnapped her. Not to mention her pointed list about his content form her point of view: Killing Metro Man even though he really didn't, taking over the city, and tricking her into caring for him. Her look back as she left and her expression at his comments about not getting the girl I think proved she did like the ''real'' Megamind beneath the whole [[LargeHam hammy]] [[CardCarryingVillain villain]] act. All the HeelFaceTurn did was allow them to be together without the watch.
** * His training of Hal showed that Megamind totally loves the superhero/supervillain dynamic, and just wants to be a part of it, regardless of which side he's on. Being a good guy just lets him win, and he's GenreSavvy enough to realize this. Like a dedicated pro wrestler, he just loves the business, regardless of if he's playing a face or a heel. This is highlighted when he says that Hal isn't even a supervillain, just a regular villain that happens to have superpowers. It's all part of the game for him. In this way, he's almost like a caped version of HatesTheJobLovesTheLimelight. It's also why he's indignant that Hal isn't acting like either a proper superhero (i.e. Hal only caring about himself and using his powers for selfish purposes) or a proper supervillain (because a proper supervillain is more concerned with the style and image than actual evil deeds).
** * Regarding her not wanting him as he was, if you watch carefully, she actually starts to forgive him well before he completes his HeelFaceTurn. She lets him into her apartment, even though the last time they spoke was when she broke up with him, and some of the looks she gives him when they go to find Metro Man imply that she's slowly cooling off from her initial, completely reasonable anger over his deception.
** * Also don't forget that the movie makes the point to show that Megamind didn't become a villain because he's a bad person, it's because every earnest attempt to be liked backfired so much that he decided to be 'bad with style'. Roxanne even says things would have been different if they went to the same school, and it most likely would have been; if he had just one person like him for who he was ''then'', then he wouldn't be a villain ''now''. In a sense, Megamind turning good really ''is'' him being himself, instead of taking the role that everyone expected of him.
** * What? You're seriously mad at her for not wanting to be with him while he was a supervillain, terrorizing the city, after killing except not really Metro Man, after he lied to her? This isn't the same as not liking someone because of the way they dress, or they've got an annoying habit- he's a villain! Him changing (or, if you prefer, being the person he really is) shows that he really does care about people ''and'' that he's not evil. And that him caring for her wasn't an act, which she seemed to think it was.
** * The thing about BeYourself as a trope, the ''problem'' with it that people don't tend to get at times is, well, to be blunt there might be problems with 'yourself' that need to be addressed and improved. 'Yourself' might not actually be very good at all. You at times actually may need to improve and change 'yourself' to get what you want. There's no point in saying 'love me for who I am' if 'who I am' is a complete asshole -- and, let's face it, for all that he had a good core underneath, Megamind very clearly was an asshole, at least to some degree. He was still a supervillain who terrorized the city and kidnapped and lied to Roxanne, so it's not unreasonable that Roxanne might view that as a bit of a stumbling block to starting a relationship with him, and that he might need to change that aspect of himself if he was to get anywhere with her..
** * Also, I'll point out the OP has it backward. Roxanne didn't change Megamind so she would like him. Megamind ''decided'' to change ''himself''. He saw that who and what he was was keeping him from being with the person he wanted to be with, so he changed in a positive way -- like getting into shape because you realize the girl you like doesn't want to be with a fat slob.
** * If it was just about change and ignoring who Megamind was, Roxanne would not have twisted the watch after Megamind scared Titan off as Metro Man - also prior to being rumbled, Megamind does start to consider genuinely improving the city as a result of actual positive social interaction which he's never really had before. In some respects his "make-a-hero" scheme is just a way to try and return to a dynamic he knows out of fear of things changing. Plus he'd already wrecked the town and found that the satisfaction of destruction is quite short lived.



* Does Megamind's hologram projector watch cause changes to the subject's voice or not? When he tricks the Warden into wearing the watch, it gives him Megamind's voice as well (not likely that he used the voice on purpose). Later, he has to do the voice of Bernard (and can even drop the voice at times). That goes against how it originally worked.
** Maybe when Megamind was scanning Bernard, he forgot to record his voice? Perhaps the reason as to why he had the Warden's voice down because it had recorded what he was saying.
** When the Warden takes the watch, Megamind asks him for the time -- obliquely asking him to hold the watch up to his face and speak - and a little 'rec.' light flashes on the watch face. He doesn't have the time to do the same to Bernard.

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* Does Megamind's hologram projector watch cause changes to the subject's voice or not? When he tricks the Warden into wearing the watch, it gives him Megamind's voice as well (not likely that he used the voice on purpose). Later, he has to do the voice of Bernard (and can even drop the voice at times). That goes against how it originally worked.
** * Maybe when Megamind was scanning Bernard, he forgot to record his voice? Perhaps the reason as to why he had the Warden's voice down because it had recorded what he was saying.
** * When the Warden takes the watch, Megamind asks him for the time -- obliquely asking him to hold the watch up to his face and speak - and a little 'rec.' light flashes on the watch face. He doesn't have the time to do the same to Bernard.



* So Megamind crashes into a jail and is automatically a prisoner for "breaking and entering", but what kind of KangarooCourt sentences a 6 month old for that!!?!!
** One who is unsure of how to deal with ''an alien baby?''
** The way he can remember things from the time that he was eight days old would imply that Megamind was pretty coherent for a baby. If he could talk, they probably didn't realize how young he was until they'd already sentenced him (could have thought that his species just looked sort of baby-ish). Still doesn't explain everything, but, that's probably the goofiest part of the whole film.
** At least one of the reasons for his incarceration was probably because, even as a baby, he was able to build a death-tricycle out of number plates and lead a prison breakout.
** RuleOfFunny, period.
** The prisoners wanted to keep him, obviously!
** Like the above. An alien crashed into the prison. The prisoners rather liked it, and nobody was quite sure what else to do with a baby alien besides keeping him locked up somewhere.
** Megamind might have been a baby, but he clearly had adult intelligence to some degree (see: the death-tricycle and prison breakout mentioned above). As such, they probably deemed it appropriate to treat him as an adult, to some degree at least.

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* So Megamind crashes into a jail and is automatically a prisoner for "breaking and entering", but what kind of KangarooCourt sentences a 6 month old for that!!?!!
** * One who is unsure of how to deal with ''an alien baby?''
** * The way he can remember things from the time that he was eight days old would imply that Megamind was pretty coherent for a baby. If he could talk, they probably didn't realize how young he was until they'd already sentenced him (could have thought that his species just looked sort of baby-ish). Still doesn't explain everything, but, that's probably the goofiest part of the whole film.
** * At least one of the reasons for his incarceration was probably because, even as a baby, he was able to build a death-tricycle out of number plates and lead a prison breakout.
** * RuleOfFunny, period.
** * The prisoners wanted to keep him, obviously!
** * Like the above. An alien crashed into the prison. The prisoners rather liked it, and nobody was quite sure what else to do with a baby alien besides keeping him locked up somewhere.
** * Megamind might have been a baby, but he clearly had adult intelligence to some degree (see: the death-tricycle and prison breakout mentioned above). As such, they probably deemed it appropriate to treat him as an adult, to some degree at least.



* It bothers me that people accuse Titan of being evil. He was more like ChaoticStupid; While he did turn into a Jerkass, one with powers that made him dangerous, he was a victim of circumstances- he got the powers by accident, was told he could be a hero and that it would get him the girl, then she rejected him and dated a dork instead (from his POV) and his "mentor" turned out to be a villain, who mocked him to his face about it- such stuff would drive anyone mad. Sure he decided to be a villain intentionally, but even then the destruction he caused was more out of his lack of concern for people than acts of true, sadistic evil.
** Sadly, Titan ''was'' evil. In a way, this is his StartOfEvil story. Hal was an immature, dishonest, self-entitled, lazy guy who suddenly got super-powers. All he wanted was to be a hero in the limelight and get all the attention. Despite how much he enjoyed the adulation and limelight, Metro Man worked for his status as a hero and showed self-restraint. Hal had none of his restraint or empathy for others. He didn't exactly have the best mentor, either, with Megamind teaching him how to be a comic-book hero and not a responsible hero. It's telling that one of the Titan's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to steal random things he wanted, and this was before he was taunted by Megamind.
** Hal had the right to be unhappy that Roxanne rejected him, but he clearly [[NotGoodWithRejection refused to accept it and respect that she didn't like him that way,]] even though she never gave him a reason to think she did, and his immediate response to her rejecting him was to drop any pretense of being a good guy at all and offer to team up with the villain who'd taken over the city. Megamind as Space Dad does say that he can get the girl as a hero, but someone who's actually good wouldn't have thought that meant to almost kill the girl in order to save her, even as a joke. Besides, a girl choosing to date someone who's not you is ''not'' a good reason to act evil.
** Not caring if people get hurt because of your action IS evil. As for sadistic, go back and watch the scene where they're doing the training with the wax Megamind. He melts the figure's head away with a big grin on his face. Yes, it's played for comedy at the time, but it sure as heck isn't when he tries it later...

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* It bothers me that people accuse Titan of being evil. He was more like ChaoticStupid; While he did turn into a Jerkass, one with powers that made him dangerous, he was a victim of circumstances- he got the powers by accident, was told he could be a hero and that it would get him the girl, then she rejected him and dated a dork instead (from his POV) and his "mentor" turned out to be a villain, who mocked him to his face about it- such stuff would drive anyone mad. Sure he decided to be a villain intentionally, but even then the destruction he caused was more out of his lack of concern for people than acts of true, sadistic evil.
** * Sadly, Titan ''was'' evil. In a way, this is his StartOfEvil story. Hal was an immature, dishonest, self-entitled, lazy guy who suddenly got super-powers. All he wanted was to be a hero in the limelight and get all the attention. Despite how much he enjoyed the adulation and limelight, Metro Man worked for his status as a hero and showed self-restraint. Hal had none of his restraint or empathy for others. He didn't exactly have the best mentor, either, with Megamind teaching him how to be a comic-book hero and not a responsible hero. It's telling that one of the Titan's first villainous acts was using his super-powers to steal random things he wanted, and this was before he was taunted by Megamind.
** * Hal had the right to be unhappy that Roxanne rejected him, but he clearly [[NotGoodWithRejection refused to accept it and respect that she didn't like him that way,]] even though she never gave him a reason to think she did, and his immediate response to her rejecting him was to drop any pretense of being a good guy at all and offer to team up with the villain who'd taken over the city. Megamind as Space Dad does say that he can get the girl as a hero, but someone who's actually good wouldn't have thought that meant to almost kill the girl in order to save her, even as a joke. Besides, a girl choosing to date someone who's not you is ''not'' a good reason to act evil.
** * Not caring if people get hurt because of your action IS evil. As for sadistic, go back and watch the scene where they're doing the training with the wax Megamind. He melts the figure's head away with a big grin on his face. Yes, it's played for comedy at the time, but it sure as heck isn't when he tries it later...



* With as much exposure Megamind's dehydration gun got throughout the movie, to the point that he called his use of it an "old habit", why did he never even consider using it on Titan? He's still made of water, isn't he?
** Presumably his powers made him immune to its effects. Otherwise Megamind would have dehydrated Metro Man, too, at some point in their rivalry.
** Or one could presume that dehydrating Metro Man would simply turn him into the strongest blue cube in the universe, kinda like Vegito in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.
*** And an invulnerable blue cube that can FLY could still do a ''lot'' of damage. If you think stepping on a Lego in bare feet is painful, imagine getting punched in the face with one at high speed...
** It's highly likely -- almost certain, in fact -- that Megamind has tried the Dehydration Gun on Metro Man at some point in the past and for whatever reason (perhaps mentioned above, perhaps different) it didn't work. And if it didn't work on Metro Man then, it's not gonna work on Titan now.

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* With as much exposure Megamind's dehydration gun got throughout the movie, to the point that he called his use of it an "old habit", why did he never even consider using it on Titan? He's still made of water, isn't he?
** * Presumably his powers made him immune to its effects. Otherwise Megamind would have dehydrated Metro Man, too, at some point in their rivalry.
** * Or one could presume that dehydrating Metro Man would simply turn him into the strongest blue cube in the universe, kinda like Vegito in ''Anime/DragonBallZ''.
*** ** And an invulnerable blue cube that can FLY could still do a ''lot'' of damage. If you think stepping on a Lego in bare feet is painful, imagine getting punched in the face with one at high speed...
** * It's highly likely -- almost certain, in fact -- that Megamind has tried the Dehydration Gun on Metro Man at some point in the past and for whatever reason (perhaps mentioned above, perhaps different) it didn't work. And if it didn't work on Metro Man then, it's not gonna work on Titan now.



* In the [[http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w119/inu-papa/megacadillac.jpg aerial shot]] of the Death Ray firing, the beam quite obviously strikes in the locale of Cadillac, Michigan, implying that this is the location of Metro City. This is problematic for several reasons:
** The observatory, and Metro City itself, is depicted as being coastal, yet the beam strikes several miles inland.
** Roxanne's station's call letters are KMCP, a designation not possible in Michigan as all eastern US stations have call letters beginning with "W". "K" implies western US.
** Could be that she ''works'' for a station that's based out west, but is ''assigned'' to cover news from Metro City. That would explain why we never see her go in to a studio or report back to her bosses: she and Hal are operating on their own.
** Metro Man and Megamind landed on earth around Christmastime, yet there was no snow on the ground. A rarity in Michigan, ''especially'' on the lakeshore.
** This is just a guess, but considering there are superheroes and supervillains; people can survive being thrown around by someone with superstrength without even getting injured; it's possible to dehydrate someone to a tiny cube without killing them; and everyone is computer generated, don't you think this story might not take place in the real world? That explains unusual weather and call letters. You still have a point on the coastal thing though.
** WordOfGod says that Metro City was heavily inspired by UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco. Not necessarily based off of it, but heavily inspired by nonetheless.
** [[WordOfGod The DVD commentary]], on the other hand, calls Metro City something like "The sister city of Toronto; a Great Lakes metropolis", so its Michigan depiction appears to be intentional (unfortunately, when the Death Ray is fired in Button of Doom, it's shown striking north of Saginaw Bay rather than the Lake Michigan coast, so ''where'' in Michigan is still up in the air).

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* In the [[http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w119/inu-papa/megacadillac.jpg aerial shot]] of the Death Ray firing, the beam quite obviously strikes in the locale of Cadillac, Michigan, implying that this is the location of Metro City. This is problematic for several reasons:
** * The observatory, and Metro City itself, is depicted as being coastal, yet the beam strikes several miles inland.
** * Roxanne's station's call letters are KMCP, a designation not possible in Michigan as all eastern US stations have call letters beginning with "W". "K" implies western US.
** * Could be that she ''works'' for a station that's based out west, but is ''assigned'' to cover news from Metro City. That would explain why we never see her go in to a studio or report back to her bosses: she and Hal are operating on their own.
** * Metro Man and Megamind landed on earth around Christmastime, yet there was no snow on the ground. A rarity in Michigan, ''especially'' on the lakeshore.
** * This is just a guess, but considering there are superheroes and supervillains; people can survive being thrown around by someone with superstrength without even getting injured; it's possible to dehydrate someone to a tiny cube without killing them; and everyone is computer generated, don't you think this story might not take place in the real world? That explains unusual weather and call letters. You still have a point on the coastal thing though.
** * WordOfGod says that Metro City was heavily inspired by UsefulNotes/SanFrancisco. Not necessarily based off of it, but heavily inspired by nonetheless.
** * [[WordOfGod The DVD commentary]], on the other hand, calls Metro City something like "The sister city of Toronto; a Great Lakes metropolis", so its Michigan depiction appears to be intentional (unfortunately, when the Death Ray is fired in Button of Doom, it's shown striking north of Saginaw Bay rather than the Lake Michigan coast, so ''where'' in Michigan is still up in the air).



* Why didn't Metro Man use his superspeed to avoid being seen by Roxanne and Megamind? Did he suddenly forget about it?
** His expression was one of pure shock, so he was probably too startled to think to use it.
** He looked like he could barely think of trying to sneak away.
** Since the whole point of him faking his death and going under the radar was because he was sick of being a superhero, it's possible he's made a conscious decision not to use his powers.

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* Why didn't Metro Man use his superspeed to avoid being seen by Roxanne and Megamind? Did he suddenly forget about it?
** * His expression was one of pure shock, so he was probably too startled to think to use it.
** * He looked like he could barely think of trying to sneak away.
** * Since the whole point of him faking his death and going under the radar was because he was sick of being a superhero, it's possible he's made a conscious decision not to use his powers.



* Really inconsequential, but at the end, right after the credits gag of Bernard getting re-hydrated, the credits start rolling again, and you can see the characters and who voiced them - someone spelled Titan as ''Tighten''. Usually something like that wouldn't bug me, but Titan's name was spelled out several times throughout the movie; why didn't anyone notice? Does that mean his name is really Tighten, or Titan?
** Originally, his name was Titan (as he was named by Megamind,) but because he had never seen it spelled, and he's not really all that bright, he personally spelled it "Tighten", which can be seen when he carves "Tightenville" into the ground. So, really, he can be referred to either way.
** Well Space Dad did say it was the only name he could trademark, and the name "Titan" has been trademarked before. My guess is the name that the actual creators of the movie use, (and the character himself at one point) is the correct one.

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* Really inconsequential, but at the end, right after the credits gag of Bernard getting re-hydrated, the credits start rolling again, and you can see the characters and who voiced them - someone spelled Titan as ''Tighten''. Usually something like that wouldn't bug me, but Titan's name was spelled out several times throughout the movie; why didn't anyone notice? Does that mean his name is really Tighten, or Titan?
** * Originally, his name was Titan (as he was named by Megamind,) but because he had never seen it spelled, and he's not really all that bright, he personally spelled it "Tighten", which can be seen when he carves "Tightenville" into the ground. So, really, he can be referred to either way.
** * Well Space Dad did say it was the only name he could trademark, and the name "Titan" has been trademarked before. My guess is the name that the actual creators of the movie use, (and the character himself at one point) is the correct one.



** I don't know, as a joke?
** To make his [[RougeAnglesOfSatin spelling mistake]] a MeaningfulRename, I presume.
** Hal was supposed to be the hero Titan but became the villain instead, so we could say his name was corrupted like he was by his powers.
** BrickJoke!
** Subtitles actually have him named "Tighten" as well. Presumably, this was what the creators originally intended, hence the trademark quip.

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** *** I don't know, as a joke?
** * To make his [[RougeAnglesOfSatin spelling mistake]] a MeaningfulRename, I presume.
** * Hal was supposed to be the hero Titan but became the villain instead, so we could say his name was corrupted like he was by his powers.
** * BrickJoke!
** * Subtitles actually have him named "Tighten" as well. Presumably, this was what the creators originally intended, hence the trademark quip.



* What really bugs me is the beginning, particularly the part where young Megamind tries to make the popp-ed corn. It's like, show and tell or something, right? So he shows them his awesome robot and tries to make popcorn so they'll like him, only it explodes. Metro Man puts out the fire, flies Megamind over to the corner and flies back to the desk for a gold star. ''He didn't ask the teacher about any of this.'' Sure, putting out the fire, you need to do that. But then, it's like if you were painting a picture and spilled paint on the floor. Would you get a time-out and the person who sent you there get a gold star? I think not. You'd get told to clean up your mess and that's about it. And the look on his face when he's doing it too! It like 'I'm getting a gold star now! Aren't I?' Then he ''winks'' at the teacher. It makes me want to punch him in the face. Plus, that whole school seems to consist of people (including the teacher) sitting around and watching Metro Man show off. AND, you notice how Megamind says he's always picked last for everything? ''Who is doing the picking?'' Metro Man. AGAIN. So really Metro Man brought it upon himself. By being an asshole.
** One thing Megamind got right, is that Metro Lad did have things much easier than he did. He was the (adopted) son of a very wealthy or well-to-do man and the teacher (and the class as a whole) was obviously favoring the special golden boy over the weird bizarre kid from prison. It didn't help matters that Metro Lad looked perfectly human while Kid Mind was so obviously alien. It was a case of "Us versus Them" with the leader of "Us" being a child Adonis. But yeah, it really bugged me how all through the movie, Metro Man (as a baby, child, ''and'' an adult) would wink and preen and posture.
** There's also the fact Megamind may also be an unreliable narrator. since all of the movie except the very end is a flashback.
** The images in flashbacks are generally thought to be true especially if the narration barely matches up. Given, Megamind might have a screwed memory, he might not have seem everything, but this is at least how he remembers his childhood, or how his childhood actually happened. Actually its the images not his words which accuse Metro Man and the teacher of anything wrong.
** Also, the narration ''doesn't'' always match up with what we see. During the intro, Megamind tried to paint his rivalry with Metro Man as not being very one-sided, when the papers and Metro Man's powers, plus his disbelief when he "succeeds" in killing Metro Man, imply that their usual encounters [[{{CurbStompBattle}} involve a curb.]] The narration is unreliable; the visuals are accurate.
** Also, if you think about it, this is essentially a clear childhood parallel to what a grown-up superhero does; after all, no one ''asks'' the superhero to stop a disaster and bring the perpetrator to jail, but they do so anyway; similarly, the teacher didn't ask Metro Boy to put out the fire - which, let's be fair, is a ''bit'' different to spilling paint - and send Kid Megamind to 'quiet time' (the obvious childhood parallel to jail), but like any superhero Metro Boy took the initiative.
*** Ultimately, like Megamind, Metro Man loved the attention as we see in the opening of the museum. He behaved very much like a rock-star performing for an audience. In fact it's implied that he only fought evil because that evil was his old rival Megamind always challenging him, and he was the one who tired of the charade first. While he wasn't a bad person, he could be rather self-centered.

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* What really bugs me is the beginning, particularly the part where young Megamind tries to make the popp-ed corn. It's like, show and tell or something, right? So he shows them his awesome robot and tries to make popcorn so they'll like him, only it explodes. Metro Man puts out the fire, flies Megamind over to the corner and flies back to the desk for a gold star. ''He didn't ask the teacher about any of this.'' Sure, putting out the fire, you need to do that. But then, it's like if you were painting a picture and spilled paint on the floor. Would you get a time-out and the person who sent you there get a gold star? I think not. You'd get told to clean up your mess and that's about it. And the look on his face when he's doing it too! It like 'I'm getting a gold star now! Aren't I?' Then he ''winks'' at the teacher. It makes me want to punch him in the face. Plus, that whole school seems to consist of people (including the teacher) sitting around and watching Metro Man show off. AND, you notice how Megamind says he's always picked last for everything? ''Who is doing the picking?'' Metro Man. AGAIN. So really Metro Man brought it upon himself. By being an asshole.
** * One thing Megamind got right, is that Metro Lad did have things much easier than he did. He was the (adopted) son of a very wealthy or well-to-do man and the teacher (and the class as a whole) was obviously favoring the special golden boy over the weird bizarre kid from prison. It didn't help matters that Metro Lad looked perfectly human while Kid Mind was so obviously alien. It was a case of "Us versus Them" with the leader of "Us" being a child Adonis. But yeah, it really bugged me how all through the movie, Metro Man (as a baby, child, ''and'' an adult) would wink and preen and posture.
** * There's also the fact Megamind may also be an unreliable narrator. since all of the movie except the very end is a flashback.
** * The images in flashbacks are generally thought to be true especially if the narration barely matches up. Given, Megamind might have a screwed memory, he might not have seem everything, but this is at least how he remembers his childhood, or how his childhood actually happened. Actually its the images not his words which accuse Metro Man and the teacher of anything wrong.
** * Also, the narration ''doesn't'' always match up with what we see. During the intro, Megamind tried to paint his rivalry with Metro Man as not being very one-sided, when the papers and Metro Man's powers, plus his disbelief when he "succeeds" in killing Metro Man, imply that their usual encounters [[{{CurbStompBattle}} involve a curb.]] The narration is unreliable; the visuals are accurate.
** * Also, if you think about it, this is essentially a clear childhood parallel to what a grown-up superhero does; after all, no one ''asks'' the superhero to stop a disaster and bring the perpetrator to jail, but they do so anyway; similarly, the teacher didn't ask Metro Boy to put out the fire - which, let's be fair, is a ''bit'' different to spilling paint - and send Kid Megamind to 'quiet time' (the obvious childhood parallel to jail), but like any superhero Metro Boy took the initiative.
*** ** Ultimately, like Megamind, Metro Man loved the attention as we see in the opening of the museum. He behaved very much like a rock-star performing for an audience. In fact it's implied that he only fought evil because that evil was his old rival Megamind always challenging him, and he was the one who tired of the charade first. While he wasn't a bad person, he could be rather self-centered.



* Would Metro Man's issues have been avoided if he'd been ClarkKenting from the beginning, rather than permanently after faking his death?
** Quite probably; it's been clearly established in the comics that at least one of the reasons Superman isn't Superman 24/7 is to essentially keep himself sane and give him some downtime from solving all the world's problems. It looks like Metro Man, however, never really had that option - unlike Clark Kent, who arrived in a fairly isolated location and was adopted by a fairly low-key couple, both of which enabled him to develop an identity outside of the public eye, Metro Man landed pretty much on the doorstep of a very wealthy and presumably very publicly exposed couple and seems to have revealed his powers early on; he's probably been well-known for having superpowers all his life.

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* Would Metro Man's issues have been avoided if he'd been ClarkKenting from the beginning, rather than permanently after faking his death?
** * Quite probably; it's been clearly established in the comics that at least one of the reasons Superman isn't Superman 24/7 is to essentially keep himself sane and give him some downtime from solving all the world's problems. It looks like Metro Man, however, never really had that option - unlike Clark Kent, who arrived in a fairly isolated location and was adopted by a fairly low-key couple, both of which enabled him to develop an identity outside of the public eye, Metro Man landed pretty much on the doorstep of a very wealthy and presumably very publicly exposed couple and seems to have revealed his powers early on; he's probably been well-known for having superpowers all his life.



* Does Megamind believe in God? When he's trying to get Titan to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. IDK, I was just wondering. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?
** He's been on Earth almost all his life and learned Earth concepts, including religion and/or the terms "Oh my God", etc.
** The uttering of phrases like "Oh my God" is simply a cultural convention in the west, one that's used by both the religious and the non-religious alike. Really, from the film we have no way of knowing if Megamind is religious.
** You're right that we don't know whether Megamind is religious or not, but uttering "oh, God" is not just a cultural convention. It can actually be used seriously.
** Even atheists use "Oh God" as an exclamation occasionally; thus Megamind using it does not indicate anything about him being religious or not.
** Megamind grew up in a prison, and would certainly have heard God referenced in many different contexts by the inmates. Heck, it's probably only because it's a kid-friendly movie that he doesn't cuss all the time, too.
** Does he ever say that? I thought the line was simply "Oh, how I've missed this!". I don't think he says God at all throughout the movie.
** There's also a funny moment in which Minion assures Megamind that his parents are smiling from "evil heaven."

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* Does Megamind believe in God? When he's trying to get Titan to fight him, he says something like 'Oh God, you don't know how much I've missed this'. IDK, I was just wondering. Does his planet have religions like Earth or what?
** * He's been on Earth almost all his life and learned Earth concepts, including religion and/or the terms "Oh my God", etc.
** * The uttering of phrases like "Oh my God" is simply a cultural convention in the west, one that's used by both the religious and the non-religious alike. Really, from the film we have no way of knowing if Megamind is religious.
** * You're right that we don't know whether Megamind is religious or not, but uttering "oh, God" is not just a cultural convention. It can actually be used seriously.
** * Even atheists use "Oh God" as an exclamation occasionally; thus Megamind using it does not indicate anything about him being religious or not.
** * Megamind grew up in a prison, and would certainly have heard God referenced in many different contexts by the inmates. Heck, it's probably only because it's a kid-friendly movie that he doesn't cuss all the time, too.
** * Does he ever say that? I thought the line was simply "Oh, how I've missed this!". I don't think he says God at all throughout the movie.
** * There's also a funny moment in which Minion assures Megamind that his parents are smiling from "evil heaven."



* Why didn't Megamind use what he thought was Metro Man's skeleton for DNA extraction? It should have been a more obvious choice instead of dandruff. It seems like the only reason was because Megamind would have immediately figured out Metro Man wasn't dead thus ruining the plot.
** This is addressed in the commentary of the DVD. They made a shot where the skeleton turns to dust, but they scrapped it after they saw it because it wasn't necessary.
** Except for the fact that it obviously was necessary, given that this troper had the exact same question. Her annoyance at this is in fact further compounded by the fact that the commentators specifically said that 'Nobody was asking that question!'
** You actually ''can't'' get DNA from bones -- they're made of calcium, which has no DNA. You can get DNA from bone ''marrow'', but since it was actually a skeleton used as an anatomy model, all the bone marrow would have been removed long before Metro Man used it as a decoy. In other words, the skeleton had no biomatter to extract DNA from.
** Moreover, Megamind got freaked out at the sight of the skull, and was never a skull-and-bones-motif villain to begin with. He probably took the cape as a trophy, and let Roxy take the skeleton away to give it a proper burial.
** There's also RuleOfFunny to consider here. After all, if you had to choose any kind of cells to extract DNA from, can you think of anything less dignified than someone's dandruff?
*** Especially for a HumanAlien with a reputation for great hair?

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* Why didn't Megamind use what he thought was Metro Man's skeleton for DNA extraction? It should have been a more obvious choice instead of dandruff. It seems like the only reason was because Megamind would have immediately figured out Metro Man wasn't dead thus ruining the plot.
** * This is addressed in the commentary of the DVD. They made a shot where the skeleton turns to dust, but they scrapped it after they saw it because it wasn't necessary.
** * Except for the fact that it obviously was necessary, given that this troper had the exact same question. Her annoyance at this is in fact further compounded by the fact that the commentators specifically said that 'Nobody was asking that question!'
** * You actually ''can't'' get DNA from bones -- they're made of calcium, which has no DNA. You can get DNA from bone ''marrow'', but since it was actually a skeleton used as an anatomy model, all the bone marrow would have been removed long before Metro Man used it as a decoy. In other words, the skeleton had no biomatter to extract DNA from.
** * Moreover, Megamind got freaked out at the sight of the skull, and was never a skull-and-bones-motif villain to begin with. He probably took the cape as a trophy, and let Roxy take the skeleton away to give it a proper burial.
** * There's also RuleOfFunny to consider here. After all, if you had to choose any kind of cells to extract DNA from, can you think of anything less dignified than someone's dandruff?
*** ** Especially for a HumanAlien with a reputation for great hair?



* How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Titan by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Titan" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
** 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Titan' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
** I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus it's exactly the sort of creepy thing he'd do.
** I figured she did it because she knew Megamind was a mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
** Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
** In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting that Roxanne and Megamind are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just doesn't realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a step back'.

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* How the hell did Roxanne manage to place all those little bits of paper just like that in her apartment so they lined up the way they did? That's ridiculous for two reasons: 1) She would've had to get every single scrap if paper from Megamind's lair, which she obviously didn't, and 2) Megamind created Titan by accident, beyond the whole, "Here, I have a gun to create a new super hero..." Hal was an accident, and there was no guarantee he would turn out the way he did. "Titan" as a name was an afterthought, it seemed...
** * 1. I personally just assumed that she was recreating Megamind's rather idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping writ-small - note that when she's infiltrated his lair she takes a few photos of the set up he's got going. She gets a general idea of the set up and positioning of the various papers from there and replicates it as best she can with what she's got. 2. Megamind gave the powers to ''Hal'' by accident, but it was always his plan to create a new superhero; presumably he came up with the 'Titan' identity before he decided who he was going to give the powers to, and came up with a rough impression of what the end result would look like beforehand. He probably trademarked the identity in advance. Could also be that his scheme was based on one of the 'battles we'll never get to have' that he alluded to when he was tearfully taking to the Metro Man statue, which he adapted to new circumstances.
** * I personally thought Hal rearranged the papers like that himself, as a way of providing a 'sign' to Roxie... look, date this guy! Even fate says so! Plus it's exactly the sort of creepy thing he'd do.
** * I figured she did it because she knew Megamind was a mad genius, so she thought setting it up like he had would give her a better insight into his plan. And whaddaya know, it did!
** * Wasn't she working with Bernard at this time? You know, ''the guy Megamind was impersonating!?'' He could have easily hinted to her how it should really be set up.
** * In light of their romantic chemistry, it could also be suggesting that Roxanne and Megamind are more similar than they realize; perhaps Roxanne shares Megamind's idiosyncratic method of mind-mapping. She just doesn't realize fully what she's actually doing until she 'takes a step back'.



* Regarding Metro Man faking his death: since he basically made it look like Megamind killed him, wouldn't he be guilty of framing Megamind for murder? Granted, Megamind is a super-villain with a mile-long rap sheet and nobody would realistically take his side, but you really can't prosecute him for something he didn't really do.
** Well the people of Metro City never really got the chance to prosecute Megamind for the murder of Metro Man prior to the end of the film, did they? Someone else described Megamind's situation at the end of the film as being a lifetime of community service for his past transgressions, and even without the murder of Metro Man, Megamind is still "condemned" to be a hero for the rest of his life by the 88 life sentences he already had, thus the question of prosecuting him for the murder of Metro Man is rather a moot point, something the people of Metro City probably realized and thus didn't bother with either.
** I always assumed that Roxanne made it clear that Metro Man wasn't really dead, but for old time's sake held off from revealing where he really was or what he was really doing. Plus, everyone worshiped the ground the guy flew over and (in some cases literally) kissed his feet when he was juggling babies in mid-air; one suspects that Metro Man would have to do a lot worse to get the people of Metro City to have him arrested and jailed.
** He still committed kidnapping and attempted murder.

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* Regarding Metro Man faking his death: since he basically made it look like Megamind killed him, wouldn't he be guilty of framing Megamind for murder? Granted, Megamind is a super-villain with a mile-long rap sheet and nobody would realistically take his side, but you really can't prosecute him for something he didn't really do.
** * Well the people of Metro City never really got the chance to prosecute Megamind for the murder of Metro Man prior to the end of the film, did they? Someone else described Megamind's situation at the end of the film as being a lifetime of community service for his past transgressions, and even without the murder of Metro Man, Megamind is still "condemned" to be a hero for the rest of his life by the 88 life sentences he already had, thus the question of prosecuting him for the murder of Metro Man is rather a moot point, something the people of Metro City probably realized and thus didn't bother with either.
** * I always assumed that Roxanne made it clear that Metro Man wasn't really dead, but for old time's sake held off from revealing where he really was or what he was really doing. Plus, everyone worshiped the ground the guy flew over and (in some cases literally) kissed his feet when he was juggling babies in mid-air; one suspects that Metro Man would have to do a lot worse to get the people of Metro City to have him arrested and jailed.
** * He still committed kidnapping and attempted murder.



* When flying above the city and writing his name with his laser vision, Titan/Tighten takes special care to dot the second 'i' in 'Tightenville'--but the first 'i' remains undotted.
** Hal isn't exactly the smartest or most careful of men; chances are he doesn't really care. Although he might have been about to do the first one when Roxanne distracted him.
** He's not even smart enough to spell Titan correctly, in fact!

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* When flying above the city and writing his name with his laser vision, Titan/Tighten takes special care to dot the second 'i' in 'Tightenville'--but the first 'i' remains undotted.
** * Hal isn't exactly the smartest or most careful of men; chances are he doesn't really care. Although he might have been about to do the first one when Roxanne distracted him.
** * He's not even smart enough to spell Titan correctly, in fact!



* Why does Megamind not know what a window is? This troper can understand his mispronunciation of various words and acknowledges that neither his prison nor the evil lair have windows, but surely Megamind has been exposed to other things that have windows, like his old schoolhouse and the invisible car. The animators just took it a little too far with this one.
** Dunno about the car, but he spend most of his time at school in the corner or being bullied by the other kids, so probably didn't have time to learn about windows. I got the feeling that he was only there for a few days tops.
** It's a weak explanation, but when in the car, the scenery is obviously always changing, so Megamind might not think it as any different from his monitors.
** Actually, his evil lair ''does'' have windows, apparently! ([[http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/sizexs/Motherload.png Pic]]) [[HandWave Weak explanation]] again, but maybe he just never had time for them.
** This is ridiculous. A window is such a universal CONCEPT, there is no way a person in a city with access to media will not know what it is.
** [[MST3KMantra It's just a movie, dude; you really should relax]].
** Megamind surely is familiar with windows. After a lifetime spent in prison or breaking into banks and other secure facilities, however, windows ''without bars'' may be a strange idea for him to wrap his head around.
** Another explanation: Perhaps Megamind has a room much like that with a desk and a big chair, but with monitors behind him instead of windows. (And I know plenty of villains have such rooms, like Blofeld from ''Film/JamesBond''.) When he enters the room, he immediately thinks of that room, so the thought that those panels aren't monitors never occurs to him. If this is true, then Minion says they're windows sarcastically. Megamind simply reacts with wonder and amazement, neither confirming nor denying he knows what a window is.
** Megamind's entire personality is theatrical, and I considered this scene just an extension of that. Just like Minion makes a big show of being 'dead', Megamind is making a big show of not knowing what a window is in order to contrast his prison upbringing from Metro Man's mansion; he's basically going "What is this thing, this thing that you call freedom?" in an overly melodramatic fashion.
** I think the idea just above this post is more or less correct. Megamind himself states "I've never had a view before." Meaning he understood what a window was, his had always just been very high up on his lairs and none in his prison cell. It's showing that due to the hand fate dealt him, he's never had a chance to enjoy the things we take for granted.

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* Why does Megamind not know what a window is? This troper can understand his mispronunciation of various words and acknowledges that neither his prison nor the evil lair have windows, but surely Megamind has been exposed to other things that have windows, like his old schoolhouse and the invisible car. The animators just took it a little too far with this one.
** * Dunno about the car, but he spend most of his time at school in the corner or being bullied by the other kids, so probably didn't have time to learn about windows. I got the feeling that he was only there for a few days tops.
** * It's a weak explanation, but when in the car, the scenery is obviously always changing, so Megamind might not think it as any different from his monitors.
** * Actually, his evil lair ''does'' have windows, apparently! ([[http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa463/sizexs/Motherload.png Pic]]) [[HandWave Weak explanation]] again, but maybe he just never had time for them.
** * This is ridiculous. A window is such a universal CONCEPT, there is no way a person in a city with access to media will not know what it is.
** * [[MST3KMantra It's just a movie, dude; you really should relax]].
** * Megamind surely is familiar with windows. After a lifetime spent in prison or breaking into banks and other secure facilities, however, windows ''without bars'' may be a strange idea for him to wrap his head around.
** * Another explanation: Perhaps Megamind has a room much like that with a desk and a big chair, but with monitors behind him instead of windows. (And I know plenty of villains have such rooms, like Blofeld from ''Film/JamesBond''.) When he enters the room, he immediately thinks of that room, so the thought that those panels aren't monitors never occurs to him. If this is true, then Minion says they're windows sarcastically. Megamind simply reacts with wonder and amazement, neither confirming nor denying he knows what a window is.
** * Megamind's entire personality is theatrical, and I considered this scene just an extension of that. Just like Minion makes a big show of being 'dead', Megamind is making a big show of not knowing what a window is in order to contrast his prison upbringing from Metro Man's mansion; he's basically going "What is this thing, this thing that you call freedom?" in an overly melodramatic fashion.
** * I think the idea just above this post is more or less correct. Megamind himself states "I've never had a view before." Meaning he understood what a window was, his had always just been very high up on his lairs and none in his prison cell. It's showing that due to the hand fate dealt him, he's never had a chance to enjoy the things we take for granted.



* When Roxanne meets Megamind in his Bernard disguise after infiltrating his lair, he directs her toward a door marked 'Exit.' Later on in the same scene, we learn that this door actually leads to a sheer drop above a pit full of alligators. So why on Earth did he tell her to go there? Did he forget? Was he planning to kidnap her again or something?
** He probably just wanted to scare her out of his lair. When she did go in there later, he pulled her back out, so he obviously wasn't planning to kill her or anything.
** Possibly because he knew she was on the hunt for some kind of "scheme" and hoped that the stuff behind the Exit door would lead her off the track of what he was really doing?
** The chance of impressing her with a death-trap she'd never seen before, of course! Remember that she'd been completely unimpressed with everything else the last time they met.
** He might have forgotten that that wasn't the actual exit.

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* When Roxanne meets Megamind in his Bernard disguise after infiltrating his lair, he directs her toward a door marked 'Exit.' Later on in the same scene, we learn that this door actually leads to a sheer drop above a pit full of alligators. So why on Earth did he tell her to go there? Did he forget? Was he planning to kidnap her again or something?
** * He probably just wanted to scare her out of his lair. When she did go in there later, he pulled her back out, so he obviously wasn't planning to kill her or anything.
** * Possibly because he knew she was on the hunt for some kind of "scheme" and hoped that the stuff behind the Exit door would lead her off the track of what he was really doing?
** * The chance of impressing her with a death-trap she'd never seen before, of course! Remember that she'd been completely unimpressed with everything else the last time they met.
** * He might have forgotten that that wasn't the actual exit.



* Why in the world would the city want Megamind to defeat Titan? Sure, Titan's evil, but no more so than Megamind. Especially from the viewpoint of a civilian who knew nothing of the story and Megamind's FaceHeelTurn (some might call it VillainDecay), there is absolutely nothing to cheer about when Megamind defeats Titan. All they know is they're under the thumb of a far more intelligent tyrant.
** Because Titan ''was'' more evil than Megamind; from everything we can gather, while Megamind robbed banks, kidnapped a journalist every so often and apparently killed the city's previous hero, Titan was ''going to destroy the entire city'', something which Megamind had shown no desire or interest in doing. Put simply, the former was definitely being a dick, but the latter was worse by far.
** According to the first news-report on Titan, "the city has never seen this level of destruction", and the things we are shown do back this up to a degree - after all, Megamind marks his name in the city by painting it with blue paint all over the place, Titan marks it ''by burning it into the ground with giant letters''. Megamind played darts with cars, Titan flew around the city burning everything he looked at... the far more intelligent tyrant would seem to be the safer bet.
** When Megamind takes over the city, what does he say? He makes a big theatrical display, proclaims his future reign of informed evil, and then tells everyone to "carry on with the dreary, normal things, normal people do." When Titan takes over the city, what does he do? "Oh, I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management." Then he ''flicks'' the nearest guy across the road. When Megamind is control, the city carries on with a little bit more paint and some money floating around the downtown corridor; when Titan is in control, the city ''evacuates''; all those people fleeing the city at the end of the film are people who didn't bother to go anywhere when it was just Megamind they had to worry about, because Megamind just makes a show about being evil, whereas Titan actually is.
** Better the devil you know? Society as a whole has a short memory, and the way Megamind wasn't actually doing much particularly evil helped.

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* Why in the world would the city want Megamind to defeat Titan? Sure, Titan's evil, but no more so than Megamind. Especially from the viewpoint of a civilian who knew nothing of the story and Megamind's FaceHeelTurn (some might call it VillainDecay), there is absolutely nothing to cheer about when Megamind defeats Titan. All they know is they're under the thumb of a far more intelligent tyrant.
** * Because Titan ''was'' more evil than Megamind; from everything we can gather, while Megamind robbed banks, kidnapped a journalist every so often and apparently killed the city's previous hero, Titan was ''going to destroy the entire city'', something which Megamind had shown no desire or interest in doing. Put simply, the former was definitely being a dick, but the latter was worse by far.
** * According to the first news-report on Titan, "the city has never seen this level of destruction", and the things we are shown do back this up to a degree - after all, Megamind marks his name in the city by painting it with blue paint all over the place, Titan marks it ''by burning it into the ground with giant letters''. Megamind played darts with cars, Titan flew around the city burning everything he looked at... the far more intelligent tyrant would seem to be the safer bet.
** * When Megamind takes over the city, what does he say? He makes a big theatrical display, proclaims his future reign of informed evil, and then tells everyone to "carry on with the dreary, normal things, normal people do." When Titan takes over the city, what does he do? "Oh, I wouldn't say freed. More like under new management." Then he ''flicks'' the nearest guy across the road. When Megamind is control, the city carries on with a little bit more paint and some money floating around the downtown corridor; when Titan is in control, the city ''evacuates''; all those people fleeing the city at the end of the film are people who didn't bother to go anywhere when it was just Megamind they had to worry about, because Megamind just makes a show about being evil, whereas Titan actually is.
** * Better the devil you know? Society as a whole has a short memory, and the way Megamind wasn't actually doing much particularly evil helped.



* An honest Headscratcher? This movie was trying to reinvent how you thought of "villains" and "heroes", i.e. the real villain in flaming white tights, and the real hero in spiky black leather. But the real villain, Titan, had an overweight face, crazy hair, and a permanent sneer, while the hero Megamind had huge shiny eyes and... long eyelashes? The point of the movie was to make you see past the book cover, but you can still tell who the good/bad guy is here. If titan was handsome, it would have been amazing.
** I honestly didn't know the movie was trying to reinvent the way you thought of villains and heroes. But I think most people in fandom find Titan pretty good looking. Hal doesn't look that bad, really, and Megamind is... well... an alien from outer space, you know.
** Megamind also has ''blue skin'' and a ''giant over-sized cranium''. Let's face it; from a human perspective, he's... unconventionally handsome, shall we say.
** This Troper found them both gorgeous.

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* An honest Headscratcher? This movie was trying to reinvent how you thought of "villains" and "heroes", i.e. the real villain in flaming white tights, and the real hero in spiky black leather. But the real villain, Titan, had an overweight face, crazy hair, and a permanent sneer, while the hero Megamind had huge shiny eyes and... long eyelashes? The point of the movie was to make you see past the book cover, but you can still tell who the good/bad guy is here. If titan was handsome, it would have been amazing.
** * I honestly didn't know the movie was trying to reinvent the way you thought of villains and heroes. But I think most people in fandom find Titan pretty good looking. Hal doesn't look that bad, really, and Megamind is... well... an alien from outer space, you know.
** * Megamind also has ''blue skin'' and a ''giant over-sized cranium''. Let's face it; from a human perspective, he's... unconventionally handsome, shall we say.
** * This Troper found them both gorgeous.



* I know it's supposed to be an AffectionateParody of the whole superhero genre, so being kidnapped repeatedly is necessary, but it still bugs be that Roxanne never gets to do anything to affect the plot beyond declare her affections for one character instead of another. The moral of the story seems to be that if you're a guy, you can change the world and you'll get the girl. If you're a girl, you're going to end up with the good guy. I realize they tried to make it seem like she was an empowered character, but honestly? She's only able to face kidnapping calmly because her entire life, that's all she's been useful for.
** Especially when she was seen holding an uprooted street sign. I wanted her to pull a Shizuo.
** It wasn't so much the male aspect as the super-powered one that made the difference, I think. Every non super-powered male got much less done than Roxanne did.
** Also, she went to go talk down Hal when he was smashing up the city, despite the fact she could have been killed. That has to count for affecting the plot.
** Roxanne doesn't actively affect the plot, but she is the catalyst for every major event. She was the one who inspired Megamind out of his funk. She was the one who later caused him to give a damn about other people. It was because of her both Megamind and Titan later went on a rampage. She was the one who again inspired Megamind to take on the hero role. She may not have changed anything herself, but if it wasn't for her, nothing would have changed.
** Okay, you're going up against people with ultra-superpowers. They're like gods. Tick them off and they'll snap you like a twig, no matter how much you maximize your natural physical strength--and you haven't done so, because you're not an athlete, you're a news anchor. [[GuileHero All you have is your ability to persuade.]] So what do you do?
** Point out where the Invisible Car is in the nick of time, maybe?

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* I know it's supposed to be an AffectionateParody of the whole superhero genre, so being kidnapped repeatedly is necessary, but it still bugs be that Roxanne never gets to do anything to affect the plot beyond declare her affections for one character instead of another. The moral of the story seems to be that if you're a guy, you can change the world and you'll get the girl. If you're a girl, you're going to end up with the good guy. I realize they tried to make it seem like she was an empowered character, but honestly? She's only able to face kidnapping calmly because her entire life, that's all she's been useful for.
** * Especially when she was seen holding an uprooted street sign. I wanted her to pull a Shizuo.
** * It wasn't so much the male aspect as the super-powered one that made the difference, I think. Every non super-powered male got much less done than Roxanne did.
** * Also, she went to go talk down Hal when he was smashing up the city, despite the fact she could have been killed. That has to count for affecting the plot.
** * Roxanne doesn't actively affect the plot, but she is the catalyst for every major event. She was the one who inspired Megamind out of his funk. She was the one who later caused him to give a damn about other people. It was because of her both Megamind and Titan later went on a rampage. She was the one who again inspired Megamind to take on the hero role. She may not have changed anything herself, but if it wasn't for her, nothing would have changed.
** * Okay, you're going up against people with ultra-superpowers. They're like gods. Tick them off and they'll snap you like a twig, no matter how much you maximize your natural physical strength--and you haven't done so, because you're not an athlete, you're a news anchor. [[GuileHero All you have is your ability to persuade.]] So what do you do?
** * Point out where the Invisible Car is in the nick of time, maybe?



* Post-movie, isn't the whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in reverse now that Megamind is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of, and I can't see him deciding to create his own villain after what happened with Titan.
** I could see him going the Vetinari route and putting all of his effort into making the city ''work''.
** I think the problem wasn't so much that he didn't have a superhero to fight, but that he didn't have ''anyone'' to challenge him, since everyone other than Roxanne pretty much just folded once Metro Man was out of the picture (the cops and city government all surrendered and no one else was willing to take a stand against him). As a superhero, however, there's always going to be crime to fight, even if it's not quite super-villainy (and there's always a good chance that some super-villains might show up to challenge the city's new hero independently of Megamind's interference). At very least, he's not going to get bored.
** Presumably there ''are'' other supervillains in this Verse, as Megamind can't be keeping that mail-order company in Romania in business all by himself.
** Alternatively, he could be bemoaning a lack of worthy supervillains and feeling the urge to go back his old ways in the sequel (probably on the basis that the villains he fights lack the class and showmanship he had). I will be very surprised if there isn't one.

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* Post-movie, isn't the whole broken eternal rivalry just going to repeat itself, but in reverse now that Megamind is a superhero but has no supervillain to battle against? There's always bank robbers and such, but no major arch-nemesis that we know of, and I can't see him deciding to create his own villain after what happened with Titan.
** * I could see him going the Vetinari route and putting all of his effort into making the city ''work''.
** * I think the problem wasn't so much that he didn't have a superhero to fight, but that he didn't have ''anyone'' to challenge him, since everyone other than Roxanne pretty much just folded once Metro Man was out of the picture (the cops and city government all surrendered and no one else was willing to take a stand against him). As a superhero, however, there's always going to be crime to fight, even if it's not quite super-villainy (and there's always a good chance that some super-villains might show up to challenge the city's new hero independently of Megamind's interference). At very least, he's not going to get bored.
** * Presumably there ''are'' other supervillains in this Verse, as Megamind can't be keeping that mail-order company in Romania in business all by himself.
** * Alternatively, he could be bemoaning a lack of worthy supervillains and feeling the urge to go back his old ways in the sequel (probably on the basis that the villains he fights lack the class and showmanship he had). I will be very surprised if there isn't one.



* So what does Roxanne mean by "his heart is an ocean inside a bigger ocean" in her Metro Man speech anyway?
** It's one of those cheesy metaphors, you know. Just like the ones Metro Man and Megamind traded back and forth without making much sense.
** This troper thought it was a clumsy ''Titanic'' reference on Roxy's part.

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* So what does Roxanne mean by "his heart is an ocean inside a bigger ocean" in her Metro Man speech anyway?
** * It's one of those cheesy metaphors, you know. Just like the ones Metro Man and Megamind traded back and forth without making much sense.
** * This troper thought it was a clumsy ''Titanic'' reference on Roxy's part.



* Did Hal really deserve to be put in Megamind's special prison cell after he was defeated? I mean, the guy doesn't even have a life, and he's very much harmless without Metro Man's powers. The least they could have done was give him some community service, right?
** According to the news-reports, he caused more destruction during his rampage through the city than Megamind had ever done - and that was before he burned "Tightenville" into the city. They're probably not going to give him community service for a while.
** They live in a comic book universe and seem at least dimly aware of this, when did a de-powered Super-Villain ever ''not'' get re-powered at some point. Super-powers are kinda like cancer, you might beat it into remission for a while, but it always comes back.
** Community Service? He is responsible for the death of at least one person (there is no way the guy driving the gas truck that tipped over and exploded survived). That's worth at least one life sentence. And with his wanton reign of destruction, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more off-screen casualties.
** This troper always thought it was for Hal's own protection. After all, he very publicly called out Megamind, did his level best to kill him, failed, and got locked up in prison. The same prison Megamind was raised in. Where he's considered family by the inmates. And now Hal's stuck there. Alone. ''With no powers.''
*** ^This. I love this. You, sir, are a delightfully evil genius.
** You get punished for what you ''did'', not based on what you can do in the future. If you shoot and kill someone with a gun, you don't get a lighter sentence on the basis of, "Well, you guys took my gun away so I can't do that again."

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* Did Hal really deserve to be put in Megamind's special prison cell after he was defeated? I mean, the guy doesn't even have a life, and he's very much harmless without Metro Man's powers. The least they could have done was give him some community service, right?
** * According to the news-reports, he caused more destruction during his rampage through the city than Megamind had ever done - and that was before he burned "Tightenville" into the city. They're probably not going to give him community service for a while.
** * They live in a comic book universe and seem at least dimly aware of this, when did a de-powered Super-Villain ever ''not'' get re-powered at some point. Super-powers are kinda like cancer, you might beat it into remission for a while, but it always comes back.
** * Community Service? He is responsible for the death of at least one person (there is no way the guy driving the gas truck that tipped over and exploded survived). That's worth at least one life sentence. And with his wanton reign of destruction, it wouldn't surprise me if there were more off-screen casualties.
** * This troper always thought it was for Hal's own protection. After all, he very publicly called out Megamind, did his level best to kill him, failed, and got locked up in prison. The same prison Megamind was raised in. Where he's considered family by the inmates. And now Hal's stuck there. Alone. ''With no powers.''
*** ** ^This. I love this. You, sir, are a delightfully evil genius.
** * You get punished for what you ''did'', not based on what you can do in the future. If you shoot and kill someone with a gun, you don't get a lighter sentence on the basis of, "Well, you guys took my gun away so I can't do that again."



* Where did the infusion/defusion gun go after Megamind used it to remove Titan's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There is a wide shot after that, and the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there). If Megamind had simply dropped the gun into the fountain it might not be visible in the wide shot. But that would be careless (to say the least), given that the gun, in its charged state, could be used to give Metro Man's powers to someone else, potentially creating another problem like the one Megamind and Roxanne just spent a third of the movie solving.
** Where it went, I have no idea. But I was under the impression that the gun could only give powers when it was loaded with that, for lack of a real term, glowing yellow bolt thing. He did say he'd only have one shot at it, so presumably now that the powers had already been given he'd have to make another bolt before the gun could give powers to anyone else.
** Possibly Megamind ''deliberately'' dropped it in the fountain to short out its mechanism and render it inoperable, because he'd realized that giving ''anybody'' Metro Man's powers was a bad idea.

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* Where did the infusion/defusion gun go after Megamind used it to remove Titan's powers? Megamind holds it in his right hand immediately after using it. His hands are not visible while talking to Minion, but then he uses both hands to flip Minion into the pool. There is a wide shot after that, and the gun is neither strapped to Megamind nor anywhere he could have put it down nearby (the depowered Hal is also oddly not there). If Megamind had simply dropped the gun into the fountain it might not be visible in the wide shot. But that would be careless (to say the least), given that the gun, in its charged state, could be used to give Metro Man's powers to someone else, potentially creating another problem like the one Megamind and Roxanne just spent a third of the movie solving.
** * Where it went, I have no idea. But I was under the impression that the gun could only give powers when it was loaded with that, for lack of a real term, glowing yellow bolt thing. He did say he'd only have one shot at it, so presumably now that the powers had already been given he'd have to make another bolt before the gun could give powers to anyone else.
** * Possibly Megamind ''deliberately'' dropped it in the fountain to short out its mechanism and render it inoperable, because he'd realized that giving ''anybody'' Metro Man's powers was a bad idea.



* Why did the prison allow Megamind access to a television and a remote control, given his proven facility with technology?
** Because a bored Megamind is probably worse than one lulled into complacency by channel surfing?

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* Why did the prison allow Megamind access to a television and a remote control, given his proven facility with technology?
** * Because a bored Megamind is probably worse than one lulled into complacency by channel surfing?



* Just confused over the ThrowItIn lines. Megamind's mispronunciation of words is what gives him away as the fake!Metro Man, so what was their excuse for the climax if Will Ferrel didn't think of it, I wonder...
** Probably something along the lines of the disguise watch getting damaged or accidentally shut off
** "Metrocity" was in the script, Will Ferrel made the decision to mispronounce all the other words.
** The DVD commentary specifically says that Ferrell himself came up with the "Metrocity" pronunciation. I would ASSUME he did it very early, perhaps in the test readings for casting. At such an early stage it would be quite easy to integrate that into the plot to replace whatever other reason they had for Tighten figuring out he had been played. Script changes happen frequently, even in animated films.
** Generally, the script for an animated film is completed before most of the major animation work, because if it were the other way around, the animated mouths might not sync up to the voice acting. There was likely no work done that was too valuable to redo if/when Will Ferrel gave them the idea to use that.
** The DVD commentary also mentions that they reflected his lack of formal education. Assuming he dropped out of school once he decided to become a villain, he probably had only read many words and had never heard them pronounced.

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* Just confused over the ThrowItIn lines. Megamind's mispronunciation of words is what gives him away as the fake!Metro Man, so what was their excuse for the climax if Will Ferrel didn't think of it, I wonder...
** * Probably something along the lines of the disguise watch getting damaged or accidentally shut off
** * "Metrocity" was in the script, Will Ferrel made the decision to mispronounce all the other words.
** * The DVD commentary specifically says that Ferrell himself came up with the "Metrocity" pronunciation. I would ASSUME he did it very early, perhaps in the test readings for casting. At such an early stage it would be quite easy to integrate that into the plot to replace whatever other reason they had for Tighten figuring out he had been played. Script changes happen frequently, even in animated films.
** * Generally, the script for an animated film is completed before most of the major animation work, because if it were the other way around, the animated mouths might not sync up to the voice acting. There was likely no work done that was too valuable to redo if/when Will Ferrel gave them the idea to use that.
** * The DVD commentary also mentions that they reflected his lack of formal education. Assuming he dropped out of school once he decided to become a villain, he probably had only read many words and had never heard them pronounced.



* For being socially awkward, Megamind sure is a good kisser. Is it because of his species? Or did he learn on his own? I would expect more awkwardness from him, but that may have lessened the impact of the TearJerker to come.
** As one who had a youth filled with social awkwardness himself, I can tell you from personal experience: He practiced on his pillow.

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* For being socially awkward, Megamind sure is a good kisser. Is it because of his species? Or did he learn on his own? I would expect more awkwardness from him, but that may have lessened the impact of the TearJerker to come.
** * As one who had a youth filled with social awkwardness himself, I can tell you from personal experience: He practiced on his pillow.



* Megamind was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose his own reign. He '''created''' the very Titan problem he eventually had to solve. So why, when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a hero, and let him go unpunished?
** What are them going to do? Megamind has pretty much proven that, except for Metro Man, no one else can do anything against him. Even going to jail is more of a voluntary thing ("I'm going home") than a real punishment (Not to mention he can get out any time he wants). The heat of the moment made the citizens cheer for him, and is probably that they later realized that it's better to have Megamind inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.
** It's also worth noting that we don't know how much time has passed between Megamind saving the day and his museum opening at the end; it could have been long enough for him to prove himself more than he had just at the end.
** It could be the Commander Shepard Effect, someone with a lot of authority realizes that he can do waaaaay more good out here than in there, and whenever an uppity subordinate wants to throw the book around the authority squelches the subordinate with a simple "Permission Denied."
** Not to mention the simple fact that, when the chips were down, Megamind had honestly ''expected to die'' when he confronted Tighten. For all Metro Man's popularity, ''he'' was never actually in danger when performing his past feats of heroism; realizing that the guy who'd made a career out of getting his butt kicked was ''still'' willing to stand up to a genuinely-lethal opponent may have made a lot of folks re-assess which of those old rivals had actually been brave. Certainly seeing how destructive Metro Man's powers could be in Hal's hands probably drove home just how overmatched Megamind had been, for all those years, and people are more forgiving of underdogs.
** Prison is meant to rehabilitate criminals. Megamind probably got a special parole hearing to verify that he has in fact been rehabilitated and was subsequently released.
** Also, if looked at another way, what Megamind is doing is essentially community service. He's rebuilding the city, participating in what could be described as a local community watch and improvement program... essentially, in light of his actions his sentence was reviewed and amended in order to reflect changing circumstances.

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* Megamind was serving multiple life sentences. He's an escaped fugitive. He booted out the duly-elected government of Metro City to impose his own reign. He '''created''' the very Titan problem he eventually had to solve. So why, when the dust settled at the end, were the citizens of Metro City so quick to lionize him as a hero, and let him go unpunished?
** * What are them going to do? Megamind has pretty much proven that, except for Metro Man, no one else can do anything against him. Even going to jail is more of a voluntary thing ("I'm going home") than a real punishment (Not to mention he can get out any time he wants). The heat of the moment made the citizens cheer for him, and is probably that they later realized that it's better to have Megamind inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.
** * It's also worth noting that we don't know how much time has passed between Megamind saving the day and his museum opening at the end; it could have been long enough for him to prove himself more than he had just at the end.
** * It could be the Commander Shepard Effect, someone with a lot of authority realizes that he can do waaaaay more good out here than in there, and whenever an uppity subordinate wants to throw the book around the authority squelches the subordinate with a simple "Permission Denied."
** * Not to mention the simple fact that, when the chips were down, Megamind had honestly ''expected to die'' when he confronted Tighten. For all Metro Man's popularity, ''he'' was never actually in danger when performing his past feats of heroism; realizing that the guy who'd made a career out of getting his butt kicked was ''still'' willing to stand up to a genuinely-lethal opponent may have made a lot of folks re-assess which of those old rivals had actually been brave. Certainly seeing how destructive Metro Man's powers could be in Hal's hands probably drove home just how overmatched Megamind had been, for all those years, and people are more forgiving of underdogs.
** * Prison is meant to rehabilitate criminals. Megamind probably got a special parole hearing to verify that he has in fact been rehabilitated and was subsequently released.
** * Also, if looked at another way, what Megamind is doing is essentially community service. He's rebuilding the city, participating in what could be described as a local community watch and improvement program... essentially, in light of his actions his sentence was reviewed and amended in order to reflect changing circumstances.



* I realize Tighten is pretty dumb, but shouldn't he have recognized his Space-Stepmom? Hal had to know who/what Minion was - after all Minion marched on up to City Hall and fumbled with a boombox in front of everyone as Megamind took over the city. Hal was on hand filming this. It seems to me that a wig and an apron wouldn't be enough to hide a fish driving a robotic gorilla suit - even from Hal.
** RuleOfFunny. Hal's just that stupid and unobservant.
** Maybe he assumed that Minion's species was common throughout the universe, as [[HumanAliens human aliens]] seem to be.
** [[InsaneTrollLogic Well,]] [[VoodooShark she's had some work done.]]

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* I realize Tighten is pretty dumb, but shouldn't he have recognized his Space-Stepmom? Hal had to know who/what Minion was - after all Minion marched on up to City Hall and fumbled with a boombox in front of everyone as Megamind took over the city. Hal was on hand filming this. It seems to me that a wig and an apron wouldn't be enough to hide a fish driving a robotic gorilla suit - even from Hal.
** * RuleOfFunny. Hal's just that stupid and unobservant.
** * Maybe he assumed that Minion's species was common throughout the universe, as [[HumanAliens human aliens]] seem to be.
** * [[InsaneTrollLogic Well,]] [[VoodooShark she's had some work done.]]



* Why did Megamind discontinue the frequent kidnapping card? What was the reward for filling a card?
** One kidnapping ABSOLUTELY FREE!
** Presumably there wouldn't be many businesses willing to align with a supervillain to provide discounted goods for the subject of his kidnappings -- particularly if, as was apparently, the case, it was just one victim.
** But Roxanne was a well-known and popular public figure. Wouldn't local businesses want to be known as being patronized by such a celebrity? In New York, for example, many businesses will put up signed photographs of celebrities who have patronized the business in the past. So wouldn't Metro City businesses want to participate in this promotion?
** They'd want to be patronized and associated with Roxanne by herself, not Megamind -- who would be the one running the promotion, not Roxanne. There's a difference between putting a celebrity's photo on a wall if they frequent your establishment and aligning with a supervillain to offering people discounts based on whether or not they get held hostage by said supervillain frequently. A business participating in a 'frequent kidnapping card' is basically telling it's customers "shop here, and there's a good chance you'll be kidnapped by a supervillain" -- not exactly a marketable slogan.
** I'd always assumed that it was their own version of witty banter, actually. She was just being sarcastic, but Megamind really likes that sort of thing and just went along with it.
** A frequent kidnapping program can be pretty useful viz. perhaps it gives 10% off for post-kidnaps therapy, maintains non-traceable toll-free lines to more easily relay kidnapping threats or demands, keeps and receipts extensive documentation on each kidnapping for tax relief purposes, and provides additional insurance coverage for collateral damages caused during actual kidnaps (with premiums supported by a cut of ransom payments), etc. Unfortunately, Megamind was forced to end it when it did not achieve its marketing goal i.e., the program failed to result in an increase of the number of people offering themselves to be kidnapped.

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* Why did Megamind discontinue the frequent kidnapping card? What was the reward for filling a card?
** * One kidnapping ABSOLUTELY FREE!
** * Presumably there wouldn't be many businesses willing to align with a supervillain to provide discounted goods for the subject of his kidnappings -- particularly if, as was apparently, the case, it was just one victim.
** * But Roxanne was a well-known and popular public figure. Wouldn't local businesses want to be known as being patronized by such a celebrity? In New York, for example, many businesses will put up signed photographs of celebrities who have patronized the business in the past. So wouldn't Metro City businesses want to participate in this promotion?
** * They'd want to be patronized and associated with Roxanne by herself, not Megamind -- who would be the one running the promotion, not Roxanne. There's a difference between putting a celebrity's photo on a wall if they frequent your establishment and aligning with a supervillain to offering people discounts based on whether or not they get held hostage by said supervillain frequently. A business participating in a 'frequent kidnapping card' is basically telling it's customers "shop here, and there's a good chance you'll be kidnapped by a supervillain" -- not exactly a marketable slogan.
** * I'd always assumed that it was their own version of witty banter, actually. She was just being sarcastic, but Megamind really likes that sort of thing and just went along with it.
** * A frequent kidnapping program can be pretty useful viz. perhaps it gives 10% off for post-kidnaps therapy, maintains non-traceable toll-free lines to more easily relay kidnapping threats or demands, keeps and receipts extensive documentation on each kidnapping for tax relief purposes, and provides additional insurance coverage for collateral damages caused during actual kidnaps (with premiums supported by a cut of ransom payments), etc. Unfortunately, Megamind was forced to end it when it did not achieve its marketing goal i.e., the program failed to result in an increase of the number of people offering themselves to be kidnapped.



* Why was Hal uninjured when he fell over the spikes on the invisible car? You can see the spikes on the hood in the beginning when Megamind first arrives at his lair, yet later Hal rolls directly where these spikes are shown to be when the car is visible.
** Those spikes are probably made of some soft, lightweight material to avoid injuries like that and to keep the car from being weighed down.
** Or they're retractable.

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* Why was Hal uninjured when he fell over the spikes on the invisible car? You can see the spikes on the hood in the beginning when Megamind first arrives at his lair, yet later Hal rolls directly where these spikes are shown to be when the car is visible.
** * Those spikes are probably made of some soft, lightweight material to avoid injuries like that and to keep the car from being weighed down.
** * Or they're retractable.



* Is there any reason why the jail gave Megamind a sentence of several thousand years? First of all it is unlikely that Megamind will even be able to live out the entirety of his prison sentence (unless somehow his alien species has a life-span that long). Secondly the prison would corrode long before the several thousand years were up. Lastly how was there any way that the prison system knows for a fact that their society will even still exist that long into the future? Was that prison sentence meant to be taken seriously or is it just RuleOfFunny?
** Of ''course'' it's a joke.
** The sentence was serious, they didn't know how long he'd live and wanted to make sure. If the prison did degrade he would be transferred to another prison. It's doubtful that they would let the expected term of existence of their society play into it.
** Also, there are real life cases of people getting as many as ''300'' life sentences. The purpose of this is so that if they get their sentence reduced, they'll still spend their entire life in jail.
** Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if you are given two different sentences of jail time, you ''must'' complete the initial sentence before you can get any time off or anything, which only applies to the last sentence. I seem to recall reading a story where a judge gave a man life in prison for a triple homicide, and then separately, gave him 30 days for shoplifting that occurred later that night, just to make sure he'd never be free. It seems like anything beyond two life sentences is just a waste of everyone's time.
** Not really; handing down a few extra life sentences doesn't waste any time at all. It's not like assigning three-hundred life sentences takes any longer than assigning two life sentences, and the prisoner isn't going to be able to serve two life sentences any more than three-hundred. It's just a measurement of how abhorrent society views the crime; one life sentence means you did something very bad, two life sentences mean you did something very ''very'' bad, and three-hundred means bloody hell, you're off the charts there son.
** Moreover, the RealLife justice system doesn't stop prosecuting people for crimes just because they aren't expected to live long enough to serve out their existing sentence. Charging an already-incarcerated offender with additional crimes is necessary to close the books on those cases, and to ensure that those additional crimes' victims have their grievances heard in a court of law.

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* Is there any reason why the jail gave Megamind a sentence of several thousand years? First of all it is unlikely that Megamind will even be able to live out the entirety of his prison sentence (unless somehow his alien species has a life-span that long). Secondly the prison would corrode long before the several thousand years were up. Lastly how was there any way that the prison system knows for a fact that their society will even still exist that long into the future? Was that prison sentence meant to be taken seriously or is it just RuleOfFunny?
** * Of ''course'' it's a joke.
** * The sentence was serious, they didn't know how long he'd live and wanted to make sure. If the prison did degrade he would be transferred to another prison. It's doubtful that they would let the expected term of existence of their society play into it.
** * Also, there are real life cases of people getting as many as ''300'' life sentences. The purpose of this is so that if they get their sentence reduced, they'll still spend their entire life in jail.
** * Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if you are given two different sentences of jail time, you ''must'' complete the initial sentence before you can get any time off or anything, which only applies to the last sentence. I seem to recall reading a story where a judge gave a man life in prison for a triple homicide, and then separately, gave him 30 days for shoplifting that occurred later that night, just to make sure he'd never be free. It seems like anything beyond two life sentences is just a waste of everyone's time.
** * Not really; handing down a few extra life sentences doesn't waste any time at all. It's not like assigning three-hundred life sentences takes any longer than assigning two life sentences, and the prisoner isn't going to be able to serve two life sentences any more than three-hundred. It's just a measurement of how abhorrent society views the crime; one life sentence means you did something very bad, two life sentences mean you did something very ''very'' bad, and three-hundred means bloody hell, you're off the charts there son.
** * Moreover, the RealLife justice system doesn't stop prosecuting people for crimes just because they aren't expected to live long enough to serve out their existing sentence. Charging an already-incarcerated offender with additional crimes is necessary to close the books on those cases, and to ensure that those additional crimes' victims have their grievances heard in a court of law.



* Anybody else get the feeling that Megamind would have gotten the Super Hero he'd wanted, if he'd been a little more equal-opportunity and gone for a Super-Heroine in Roxanne? The first time I watched the movie, I thought for sure he'd pick her for the job. And she would have been AWESOME.
** Well, yes. But there's no real headscratcher in it: yes, she would have been awesome, but it would have been a drastically different story (no need for Megamind to turn good if his attempt to create a proper superhero to oppose him ''works perfectly'').
** I'm not so sure that having Roxanne with powers would really be what Megamind wanted. Sure she'd have all the prerequisites but would super!Roxanne be willing to play the game like Metro Man did? Also how would he start the rounds since his hostage would now be nigh invulnerable and kicking his ass. No, Roxanne as the next hero of Metro City would have been the worst possible thing ever for Megamind
** Hey, a hero doesn't need to be great friends with somebody to rescue them if they're kidnapped by a nemesis. Megamind might have had to find a new person to be his hostage. Like Hal. But it's pretty obvious that Megamind doesn't handle change all that well. Maybe that's why he overlooked Roxanne. Plus, she would have looked really HOT in a female version of the Titan suit.
** It also seems to be pretty clearly implied that Megamind is in love with Roxanne throughout the movie and kidnapping her is his warped and maladjusted way of showing it and getting to spend time with her. After all, when she's tied to a chair in front of one of his devices it's a perfect opportunity to show off for her, do a bit of gloating etc -- in essence, it's his version of going on a 'date' with her, while the dynamic with Metro Man is more like two performers staging a show for the crowds. Although in ''theory'' Roxanne would be a better candidate for being a better superhero, in ''practice'' this would throw the whole dynamic out of whack, and he wouldn't really be able to spend time with Roxanne the way he had previously since they'd be too busy fighting. In essence, he's letting his feelings for her get in the way.
** Moreover, while he might enjoy ''abducting'' Roxanne and tries like hell to impress her with his deathtraps, making her his new superhero-nemesis would mean he'd have to start plotting ways to '''hurt''' her. Given that he believes he just killed the invulnerable Metro Man ''by accident'', he's hardly going to risk fighting the woman he loves under the same circumstances: for all he knows, copper wasn't Metro Man's ''only'' vulnerability, and if he chanced upon another WeaksauceWeakness, he could kill her too.
** Megamind gave superpowers to the cameraman on accident. He didn't get a chance to yet decide who he would give the powers to. Who knows? Maybe if he had more time to think about it, he would've given the powers to Roxanne.
** Simple really, Roxanne is the kidnap victim, it's part of the dynamic.

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* Anybody else get the feeling that Megamind would have gotten the Super Hero he'd wanted, if he'd been a little more equal-opportunity and gone for a Super-Heroine in Roxanne? The first time I watched the movie, I thought for sure he'd pick her for the job. And she would have been AWESOME.
** * Well, yes. But there's no real headscratcher in it: yes, she would have been awesome, but it would have been a drastically different story (no need for Megamind to turn good if his attempt to create a proper superhero to oppose him ''works perfectly'').
** * I'm not so sure that having Roxanne with powers would really be what Megamind wanted. Sure she'd have all the prerequisites but would super!Roxanne be willing to play the game like Metro Man did? Also how would he start the rounds since his hostage would now be nigh invulnerable and kicking his ass. No, Roxanne as the next hero of Metro City would have been the worst possible thing ever for Megamind
** * Hey, a hero doesn't need to be great friends with somebody to rescue them if they're kidnapped by a nemesis. Megamind might have had to find a new person to be his hostage. Like Hal. But it's pretty obvious that Megamind doesn't handle change all that well. Maybe that's why he overlooked Roxanne. Plus, she would have looked really HOT in a female version of the Titan suit.
** * It also seems to be pretty clearly implied that Megamind is in love with Roxanne throughout the movie and kidnapping her is his warped and maladjusted way of showing it and getting to spend time with her. After all, when she's tied to a chair in front of one of his devices it's a perfect opportunity to show off for her, do a bit of gloating etc -- in essence, it's his version of going on a 'date' with her, while the dynamic with Metro Man is more like two performers staging a show for the crowds. Although in ''theory'' Roxanne would be a better candidate for being a better superhero, in ''practice'' this would throw the whole dynamic out of whack, and he wouldn't really be able to spend time with Roxanne the way he had previously since they'd be too busy fighting. In essence, he's letting his feelings for her get in the way.
** * Moreover, while he might enjoy ''abducting'' Roxanne and tries like hell to impress her with his deathtraps, making her his new superhero-nemesis would mean he'd have to start plotting ways to '''hurt''' her. Given that he believes he just killed the invulnerable Metro Man ''by accident'', he's hardly going to risk fighting the woman he loves under the same circumstances: for all he knows, copper wasn't Metro Man's ''only'' vulnerability, and if he chanced upon another WeaksauceWeakness, he could kill her too.
** * Megamind gave superpowers to the cameraman on accident. He didn't get a chance to yet decide who he would give the powers to. Who knows? Maybe if he had more time to think about it, he would've given the powers to Roxanne.
** * Simple really, Roxanne is the kidnap victim, it's part of the dynamic.



* Where is the American Government in this whole debacle? Don't they feel worried that Mega Mind just took over a prosperous city and might do the same to another? Do they think that he is just such an ineffectual villain that he won't present any problems to national security? Did Mega Mind make a deal with the government? This bugged me a little bit.
** Maybe superheroes and villains are reasonably common in this universe (like in a comic book universe), and the feds prefer to let superpowered beings deal with superpowered problems.
** Odds are the government was rather cautious about attacking, y'know, a diabolical mastermind who'd just defeated the greatest hero in the world.
** Megamind has [[KillSat an orbital weapon capable of channeling the power of the sun]] into a comparatively precise area aimed at a high population center, and they have no idea how close he keeps the big red button for it. The civilian casualties should they interfere would be horrendous. They'd need a small-scale invasion to take him on ''and'' look for the controls, and they'd have to hope he doesn't spot them coming. One the flipside, he seems to respect the one-on-one superhero/supervillain dynamic, so letting a lone super sort it out has a better chance of succeeding overall, not to mention preventing a lot of collateral at the same time. They might've been trying to pull strings to get a hero somewhere to come and help, but y'know, SupermanStaysOutOfGotham; it's plausible that many other heroes would feel uncomfortable or unprepared to take on a villain not from their own RoguesGallery. Once Tighten starts wreaking havoc, there's a chance they'd start mobilizing a military response, since this isn't a hostage situation any more - it's terrorism. That only lasts for a day, though, which isn't long enough to create an effective response that doesn't cause more civilian casualties.
** Perhaps the government has kept tabs on the Metro Man/Megamind dynamic and realized that Megamind himself was ineffectual and more focused on the spectacle than the actual crime. If there was any escalation, they probably would step in, but Megamind's plans did not change much and eventually got bored and turned to sprucing up the town instead (Roxie's suggestion, but still).
** Related to this, since Megamind is obviously bored without any opposition. How about just declare war on someone like the entire America? Hopefully their military response could keep him entertained. It worked for Doctor Doom.
** Nothing we see of Megamind indicates he has any interest in ''actually'' harming anyone, or that he'd declare "war" on anyone. What he wants is to fight a hero.
** This could be caught up in a big political debacle on the national stage with doves and hawks fighting on the hill, while GeneralRipper is lobbying to [[FinalSolution nuke the city]]. Then it all gets resolved before any faction gets to take action.

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* Where is the American Government in this whole debacle? Don't they feel worried that Mega Mind just took over a prosperous city and might do the same to another? Do they think that he is just such an ineffectual villain that he won't present any problems to national security? Did Mega Mind make a deal with the government? This bugged me a little bit.
** * Maybe superheroes and villains are reasonably common in this universe (like in a comic book universe), and the feds prefer to let superpowered beings deal with superpowered problems.
** * Odds are the government was rather cautious about attacking, y'know, a diabolical mastermind who'd just defeated the greatest hero in the world.
** * Megamind has [[KillSat an orbital weapon capable of channeling the power of the sun]] into a comparatively precise area aimed at a high population center, and they have no idea how close he keeps the big red button for it. The civilian casualties should they interfere would be horrendous. They'd need a small-scale invasion to take him on ''and'' look for the controls, and they'd have to hope he doesn't spot them coming. One the flipside, he seems to respect the one-on-one superhero/supervillain dynamic, so letting a lone super sort it out has a better chance of succeeding overall, not to mention preventing a lot of collateral at the same time. They might've been trying to pull strings to get a hero somewhere to come and help, but y'know, SupermanStaysOutOfGotham; it's plausible that many other heroes would feel uncomfortable or unprepared to take on a villain not from their own RoguesGallery. Once Tighten starts wreaking havoc, there's a chance they'd start mobilizing a military response, since this isn't a hostage situation any more - it's terrorism. That only lasts for a day, though, which isn't long enough to create an effective response that doesn't cause more civilian casualties.
** * Perhaps the government has kept tabs on the Metro Man/Megamind dynamic and realized that Megamind himself was ineffectual and more focused on the spectacle than the actual crime. If there was any escalation, they probably would step in, but Megamind's plans did not change much and eventually got bored and turned to sprucing up the town instead (Roxie's suggestion, but still).
** * Related to this, since Megamind is obviously bored without any opposition. How about just declare war on someone like the entire America? Hopefully their military response could keep him entertained. It worked for Doctor Doom.
** * Nothing we see of Megamind indicates he has any interest in ''actually'' harming anyone, or that he'd declare "war" on anyone. What he wants is to fight a hero.
** * This could be caught up in a big political debacle on the national stage with doves and hawks fighting on the hill, while GeneralRipper is lobbying to [[FinalSolution nuke the city]]. Then it all gets resolved before any faction gets to take action.



* The part where Minion says that Hal has no records he includes the line, "He has accomplished nothing." Um, last time I checked they don't hand out jobs in the media to just any goober off the street. Especially not a major TV news broadcast station. You have to go to college for that ''and'' beat out other candidates for a job, even as a camera person.
** Minion is ''exaggerating to make a point''. The point being that Hal is a profoundly mundane person who hasn't really done anything impressive. Given what we know about him, it can be safely assumed that he most likely got below-average to average grades at school and college, isn't ''that'' great at his job and most likely hasn't excelled in any significant way or done anything of any particular note with his life. Generally, landing a decent job and gaining sufficient qualifications to enable you to do so isn't really considered to be exceptional, since that's pretty much the minimum that society expects of a functional member of society. And while a job in the media isn't exactly something to sniff at, who really pays attention to the cameraperson?

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* The part where Minion says that Hal has no records he includes the line, "He has accomplished nothing." Um, last time I checked they don't hand out jobs in the media to just any goober off the street. Especially not a major TV news broadcast station. You have to go to college for that ''and'' beat out other candidates for a job, even as a camera person.
** * Minion is ''exaggerating to make a point''. The point being that Hal is a profoundly mundane person who hasn't really done anything impressive. Given what we know about him, it can be safely assumed that he most likely got below-average to average grades at school and college, isn't ''that'' great at his job and most likely hasn't excelled in any significant way or done anything of any particular note with his life. Generally, landing a decent job and gaining sufficient qualifications to enable you to do so isn't really considered to be exceptional, since that's pretty much the minimum that society expects of a functional member of society. And while a job in the media isn't exactly something to sniff at, who really pays attention to the cameraperson?



* So if the Megamind on the hoverbike was Minion, how did the dehydrator gun (used to free Roxy) get back to Megamind (used to save himself from his fall)? It's made from his binky, so it seems doubtful he has a second one.
** We lose sight of him a few times when he's chasing Titan around in his Metro Man guise; he could've slipped back to grab some gear from Minion then, just in case Titan called his bluff during the pursuit.
** Now that I look at it again, I realize that there's at least one other dehydrator used, specifically during the scene where he and minion are "cleaning up the streets", Megamind has a walker-mounted dehydrator. So if he built another one for that machine, he probably does have a backup dehydrator gun that Minion used.
** Certainly by the time of the movie, he's found a way to duplicate the binky's function as a power source. The brain-bots have similar blue-glowing energy inside, as does the giant robot from "Button Of Doom".

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* So if the Megamind on the hoverbike was Minion, how did the dehydrator gun (used to free Roxy) get back to Megamind (used to save himself from his fall)? It's made from his binky, so it seems doubtful he has a second one.
** * We lose sight of him a few times when he's chasing Titan around in his Metro Man guise; he could've slipped back to grab some gear from Minion then, just in case Titan called his bluff during the pursuit.
** * Now that I look at it again, I realize that there's at least one other dehydrator used, specifically during the scene where he and minion are "cleaning up the streets", Megamind has a walker-mounted dehydrator. So if he built another one for that machine, he probably does have a backup dehydrator gun that Minion used.
** * Certainly by the time of the movie, he's found a way to duplicate the binky's function as a power source. The brain-bots have similar blue-glowing energy inside, as does the giant robot from "Button Of Doom".



* Why are there two punch-holes in the invisible-car's door?
** Tighten used both hands while ripping off the door.

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* Why are there two punch-holes in the invisible-car's door?
** * Tighten used both hands while ripping off the door.



* When did Megamind have time to scan & record Metro Man for his watch?
** It's possible he recorded Metro Man at some point during the innumerable battles they've had before.

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* When did Megamind have time to scan & record Metro Man for his watch?
** * It's possible he recorded Metro Man at some point during the innumerable battles they've had before.



* In the scene where Metro Man dies (kind of) and Megamind sees his skeleton for the first time, Roxanne is in the background tied to a chair. Later on that night when Megamind is rampaging the city and making his big speech, she is in the audience, completely free. When and how did she get free from Megamind's grasp if no one was there to save her?
** Minion probably freed her out of habit. Minion was about to release her when they thought Metro Man was going to escape, so probably did after Metro Man was blown up.
** There's a good chance that Megamind himself dropped her off (he didn't just let her go, since she had to find the fake observatory to discover his lair, instead of just going back to the building she escaped from) so she could join the crowd. He didn't really have any plans for her beyond using her to lure Metro Man into another trap/battle, and almost certainly didn't want to actually ''hurt'' her.

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* In the scene where Metro Man dies (kind of) and Megamind sees his skeleton for the first time, Roxanne is in the background tied to a chair. Later on that night when Megamind is rampaging the city and making his big speech, she is in the audience, completely free. When and how did she get free from Megamind's grasp if no one was there to save her?
** * Minion probably freed her out of habit. Minion was about to release her when they thought Metro Man was going to escape, so probably did after Metro Man was blown up.
** * There's a good chance that Megamind himself dropped her off (he didn't just let her go, since she had to find the fake observatory to discover his lair, instead of just going back to the building she escaped from) so she could join the crowd. He didn't really have any plans for her beyond using her to lure Metro Man into another trap/battle, and almost certainly didn't want to actually ''hurt'' her.



* So, why did Hal suddenly gain an extremely curly afro when souped up on Metro Man DNA? Before that happened, you can clearly see that he has straight hair, and it goes back to being straight when the DNA is removed. What the heck?
** Probably the easiest way to explain this is it simply being a side-effect of having super-powered alien DNA injected into him and consequently screwing around with his own DNA.
** I assumed it was just a result of the burst of power when he exploded into his new form. Y'know, like static electricity.
** Possibly Hal has a natural afro, but uses product to straighten it. When he becomes Tighten, the power purges the effects of such things. Wouldn't be surprised if it also did things like pop out his fillings and heal his teeth and that sort of thing.

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* So, why did Hal suddenly gain an extremely curly afro when souped up on Metro Man DNA? Before that happened, you can clearly see that he has straight hair, and it goes back to being straight when the DNA is removed. What the heck?
** * Probably the easiest way to explain this is it simply being a side-effect of having super-powered alien DNA injected into him and consequently screwing around with his own DNA.
** * I assumed it was just a result of the burst of power when he exploded into his new form. Y'know, like static electricity.
** * Possibly Hal has a natural afro, but uses product to straighten it. When he becomes Tighten, the power purges the effects of such things. Wouldn't be surprised if it also did things like pop out his fillings and heal his teeth and that sort of thing.



* What's up with the apology scene towards the end? Megamind's apologizing to who he thinks is the warden for all the bad he's done and that he wants to make it right, and then Minion disables the hologram and goes "apology accepted" as if that apology might as well have been directed at Minion himself. The thing is, Megamind's apology is simply a more extreme version of the position he had before, ''the one that caused Minion to abandon him in the first place''. The entire reason they fought and "broke up" was because Megamind briefly thought he didn't want to be a supervillain anymore, and Minion was utterly devastated. So what on earth caused Minion to decide that, yes, being a good guy was a good idea, and that, somehow, ''it had been his position the entire time''?
** Minion is definitely shocked that Megamind doesn't want to be a supervillain any more, but it's only when Megamind yells that he doesn't need Minion anymore that Minion storms out. Had Megamind not said that, given time, Minion could easily have come around to the new way of doing things, especially since his purpose is to look after Megamind and since he's a pretty likable and mild-natured sort of fish to begin with. Note how, at the end, Minion is perfectly content to join the party and bask in not being a bad guy anymore. His shock is just because he's so used to Megamind's supervillain ways that he's astonished when Megamind decides he doesn't want to do that any more, and Megamind's apology wasn't about renouncing his decision to abandon supervillainy, it was about acknowledging that he'd treated Minion like crap in the process and apologizing for that.

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* What's up with the apology scene towards the end? Megamind's apologizing to who he thinks is the warden for all the bad he's done and that he wants to make it right, and then Minion disables the hologram and goes "apology accepted" as if that apology might as well have been directed at Minion himself. The thing is, Megamind's apology is simply a more extreme version of the position he had before, ''the one that caused Minion to abandon him in the first place''. The entire reason they fought and "broke up" was because Megamind briefly thought he didn't want to be a supervillain anymore, and Minion was utterly devastated. So what on earth caused Minion to decide that, yes, being a good guy was a good idea, and that, somehow, ''it had been his position the entire time''?
** * Minion is definitely shocked that Megamind doesn't want to be a supervillain any more, but it's only when Megamind yells that he doesn't need Minion anymore that Minion storms out. Had Megamind not said that, given time, Minion could easily have come around to the new way of doing things, especially since his purpose is to look after Megamind and since he's a pretty likable and mild-natured sort of fish to begin with. Note how, at the end, Minion is perfectly content to join the party and bask in not being a bad guy anymore. His shock is just because he's so used to Megamind's supervillain ways that he's astonished when Megamind decides he doesn't want to do that any more, and Megamind's apology wasn't about renouncing his decision to abandon supervillainy, it was about acknowledging that he'd treated Minion like crap in the process and apologizing for that.



* If the watch can copy a person's likeness and powers, why didn't Megamind use it against Metro Man years ago (assuming Megamind didn't think of that)?
** Because it can't copy powers. Just appearance.
** When Megamind impersonated Metro Man, he was using his flight ability and strength to take on Titan/Tighten. Megamind is super intelligent, but he doesn't have super strength and flight.
** He was wearing rocket boots and what appeared to be extremely powerful fighting gauntlets underneath the disguise. Also worth noting that he never really got into a fight with Tighten/Titan while wearing the disguise -- he basically just chased him around and let Tighten/Titan's own fear do the rest.
** They make it pretty clear that he's using the gadgets to mimic the powers, and nothing in the movie indicates the watch does anything besides alter appearance.
** Besides the jetpack, Megamind had a saw on his right hand (which can be seen for all of a second after he's unveiled before he smashes it on Tighten's face) which is the same arm he has extended when he chops the bus in half. That was the only "super" act he did as Metro Man besides flying which was clearly the jetpack.

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* If the watch can copy a person's likeness and powers, why didn't Megamind use it against Metro Man years ago (assuming Megamind didn't think of that)?
** * Because it can't copy powers. Just appearance.
** * When Megamind impersonated Metro Man, he was using his flight ability and strength to take on Titan/Tighten. Megamind is super intelligent, but he doesn't have super strength and flight.
** * He was wearing rocket boots and what appeared to be extremely powerful fighting gauntlets underneath the disguise. Also worth noting that he never really got into a fight with Tighten/Titan while wearing the disguise -- he basically just chased him around and let Tighten/Titan's own fear do the rest.
** * They make it pretty clear that he's using the gadgets to mimic the powers, and nothing in the movie indicates the watch does anything besides alter appearance.
** * Besides the jetpack, Megamind had a saw on his right hand (which can be seen for all of a second after he's unveiled before he smashes it on Tighten's face) which is the same arm he has extended when he chops the bus in half. That was the only "super" act he did as Metro Man besides flying which was clearly the jetpack.



* Is it possible to be both a genius and a bumbling idiot? Some scenes Megamind is played off as a buffoon, other times he is shown to be super smart.
** GeniusDitz, BookSmart... basically, Megamind has a great deal of knowledge in some areas (mainly technical and planning matters) but little intelligence in others (particularly social skills).

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* Is it possible to be both a genius and a bumbling idiot? Some scenes Megamind is played off as a buffoon, other times he is shown to be super smart.
** * GeniusDitz, BookSmart... basically, Megamind has a great deal of knowledge in some areas (mainly technical and planning matters) but little intelligence in others (particularly social skills).



* Was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers? Before he became Tighten, I saw Hal as a bumbling idiot who just wanted a girl's affections. I know a lot of guys who try way too hard to impress girls, but they aren't psychopaths or nutcases. Sure they unintentionally come off creepy just like Hal, but they are still nice guys, they're just lousy at picking up women. Also, why doesn't Roxanne take blame for him turning evil? I understand she doesn't love him, but it was stated she treated him like a nobody. Heck, she gave the real Bernard more attention. She doesn't feel guilty at all?
** He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand what she's saying, she's confused..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line. Which brings me to...
** As for why Roxanne has little-to-no responsibility for Hal's FaceHeelTurn, that's because Hal is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. He's not the first man to be rejected by the woman he has feelings for, but it's his decision to go on what is basically the superpowered equivalent of a temper tantrum because of it. Furthermore, "she treated him like a nobody" is a hugely unfair distortion of Roxanne's actions (note how the only person who actually claims this is Hal himself, who is far from unbiased or reliable in this particular matter). Watch how she treats him throughout the movie. Despite the fact that she's clearly discomforted by him at times, she nevertheless clearly makes an effort to be polite and kind to him, and to let him down gently. And even if she didn't -- even if she did treat the original Bernard with more interest -- well, frankly, that's her choice. She owes Hal nothing. Hal isn't entitled to her interest or affections, romantic or otherwise, just because he comes off as bumbling and awkward.
** If someone you would never ever want to get into a relationship with constantly forced himself on you and then blamed you for him turning into a criminal, would you agree with them? Roxanne has the right to choose whomever she's dating, regardless of whether that particular someone is nice to her or not. Metro Man was saving her on a regular basis, all the while (presumably) being helpful and polite, and the movie emphatically made a point of that this has ''nothing'' to do with romantic affection. Hal should have learned long ago to take no for an answer and leave Roxanne alone with his advances - the movie suggests that this was roughly the billionth time he asked her out, and she always put him down. While not doing anything ''evil'' per se, Hal suspiciously resembles a stalker (remember the [[StalkerShrine creepy poster in his room, complete with a love note]]). Hal is the only one to blame here as he behaved like a small child who throws a tantrum when he's denied something. Except that this particular tantrum ended in manslaughter and severe property damage. As for treating him like dirt, that's pretty obviously Hal's [[UnreliableNarrator own twisted interpretation of the previous events]], as when we actually see them together onscreen, Roxanne shows incredible patience and sympathy towards him.
*** Heck, the evident fact that she never reported his unwelcome and incessant, however low-key, advances to their superiors at the network demonstrates a great deal of forbearance on Roxanne's part. If Hal's been acting that way towards her for years, it was probably ''only'' because she felt sorry for his ineptitude that she never filed a sexual harassment complaint, or at least asked that he be transferred to some other (preferably male) reporter's team.
** Even if most guys like Hal aren't psychopaths or nutcases, it doesn't change the fact that ''Hal is'', or at the very least that he's (presumably) more selfish off-screen than we see him be. Most of those guys in RealLife will vary wildly beyond their crushes and pseudo-stalker tendencies- yes, ''some'' of them will be basically decent people who are suffering from nothing more than severe loneliness and[=/=]or lack of social skills; others will be more neutral, and some- like Hal- will be selfish, amoral manchilds who pretend to be "nice guys" because [[BitchInSheepsClothing that's what they think society expects of them]], not because they actually care about it all that much. Hal might not have been an out-and-out psychopath (though he's definitely psychopath''ic''), but he was basically a selfish brat who pretended to be a nicer person than he was, which is why when he gets superpowers the first thing he does is start robbing stuff. Like [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], his idea of what a hero is revolves around having amazing powers and getting to do whatever you want, and he thinks that they only save people because [[EvilCannotComprehendGood they love the adulation that comes with it]]; unlike Syndrome, Hal doesn't give a damn about the adulation (except [[StalkerWithACrush from Roxanne]]), so he has even ''less'' reason to pretend to be a hero.

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* Was Hal really a bad guy before gaining super powers? Before he became Tighten, I saw Hal as a bumbling idiot who just wanted a girl's affections. I know a lot of guys who try way too hard to impress girls, but they aren't psychopaths or nutcases. Sure they unintentionally come off creepy just like Hal, but they are still nice guys, they're just lousy at picking up women. Also, why doesn't Roxanne take blame for him turning evil? I understand she doesn't love him, but it was stated she treated him like a nobody. Heck, she gave the real Bernard more attention. She doesn't feel guilty at all?
** * He wasn't a bad guy in the sense of being an evil psychopath, but this is the whole point. The problem with so-called "nice guys" like Hal is that, while they're hardly evil, they're too often not actually as nice as they like to think they are. Scratch the surface, Hal is pretty clearly a little bit of a jerk at least. His attentions towards Roxanne clearly make her uncomfortable, he is frequently inappropriate (exhibit A: the "private party" he invites her to, complete with wedding photographer), and doesn't take 'no' for an answer when she tries to refuse him ("Soft yes on Thursday?"). He is very quick to get jealous when 'Bernard' appears on the scene and treats Roxanne in a very condescending fashion ("She doesn't understand what she's saying, she's confused..."). Yes, some of this can be put down to bumbling social ineptitude, but that's not actually much of an excuse -- if you're not good at navigating social situations, then it is at least partially your responsibility to learn how to do so, it's not necessarily everyone's job to bend themselves around you. And no, none of this makes Hal evil, at least initially, but it's his reactions later in the movie which cross the line. Which brings me to...
** * As for why Roxanne has little-to-no responsibility for Hal's FaceHeelTurn, that's because Hal is a grown man and is responsible for his own actions. He's not the first man to be rejected by the woman he has feelings for, but it's his decision to go on what is basically the superpowered equivalent of a temper tantrum because of it. Furthermore, "she treated him like a nobody" is a hugely unfair distortion of Roxanne's actions (note how the only person who actually claims this is Hal himself, who is far from unbiased or reliable in this particular matter). Watch how she treats him throughout the movie. Despite the fact that she's clearly discomforted by him at times, she nevertheless clearly makes an effort to be polite and kind to him, and to let him down gently. And even if she didn't -- even if she did treat the original Bernard with more interest -- well, frankly, that's her choice. She owes Hal nothing. Hal isn't entitled to her interest or affections, romantic or otherwise, just because he comes off as bumbling and awkward.
** * If someone you would never ever want to get into a relationship with constantly forced himself on you and then blamed you for him turning into a criminal, would you agree with them? Roxanne has the right to choose whomever she's dating, regardless of whether that particular someone is nice to her or not. Metro Man was saving her on a regular basis, all the while (presumably) being helpful and polite, and the movie emphatically made a point of that this has ''nothing'' to do with romantic affection. Hal should have learned long ago to take no for an answer and leave Roxanne alone with his advances - the movie suggests that this was roughly the billionth time he asked her out, and she always put him down. While not doing anything ''evil'' per se, Hal suspiciously resembles a stalker (remember the [[StalkerShrine creepy poster in his room, complete with a love note]]). Hal is the only one to blame here as he behaved like a small child who throws a tantrum when he's denied something. Except that this particular tantrum ended in manslaughter and severe property damage. As for treating him like dirt, that's pretty obviously Hal's [[UnreliableNarrator own twisted interpretation of the previous events]], as when we actually see them together onscreen, Roxanne shows incredible patience and sympathy towards him.
*** ** Heck, the evident fact that she never reported his unwelcome and incessant, however low-key, advances to their superiors at the network demonstrates a great deal of forbearance on Roxanne's part. If Hal's been acting that way towards her for years, it was probably ''only'' because she felt sorry for his ineptitude that she never filed a sexual harassment complaint, or at least asked that he be transferred to some other (preferably male) reporter's team.
** * Even if most guys like Hal aren't psychopaths or nutcases, it doesn't change the fact that ''Hal is'', or at the very least that he's (presumably) more selfish off-screen than we see him be. Most of those guys in RealLife will vary wildly beyond their crushes and pseudo-stalker tendencies- yes, ''some'' of them will be basically decent people who are suffering from nothing more than severe loneliness and[=/=]or lack of social skills; others will be more neutral, and some- like Hal- will be selfish, amoral manchilds who pretend to be "nice guys" because [[BitchInSheepsClothing that's what they think society expects of them]], not because they actually care about it all that much. Hal might not have been an out-and-out psychopath (though he's definitely psychopath''ic''), but he was basically a selfish brat who pretended to be a nicer person than he was, which is why when he gets superpowers the first thing he does is start robbing stuff. Like [[WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles Syndrome]], his idea of what a hero is revolves around having amazing powers and getting to do whatever you want, and he thinks that they only save people because [[EvilCannotComprehendGood they love the adulation that comes with it]]; unlike Syndrome, Hal doesn't give a damn about the adulation (except [[StalkerWithACrush from Roxanne]]), so he has even ''less'' reason to pretend to be a hero.



* How was Metro Man planning to pursue his dream if he is believed to be dead? Does he have a Clark Kent identity in this universe? What makes Metro Man think Megamind wouldn't conquer the entire planet if he was planning to move to another state to become a musician? It would be kinda difficult to do this if your planet is under control of an evil genius.
** He's going to create a new identity for himself; in essence, he's going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And since it was pretty clear that Megamind clearly wasn't going to become much of a dictator -- for all his supervillainy, when you look closely at it is Megamind's post-Metro Man pre-Titan activities were basically a large-scale robbery spree mixed with what is essentially glorified vandalism -- he probably wouldn't have had too much trouble. It's not like Megamind was exercising strict censorship of the arts, after all.
** And the reason he assumes Megamind won't conquer the entire planet or anything like that is because ''he knows Megamind''. The two have essentially been each other's closest frenemy since childhood. Metro Man knows that there's no major risk on the "potential planetary destruction or domination" front from Megamind because by this point he's familiar with Megamind and knows that ultimately Megamind's not really interested in that.
** It's quite arguable that not only did he know that Megamind wasn't going to take over the world, but that he forsaw Megamind becoming the new Good to fill the vacuum he left, therefore fulfilling ''both'' of their dreams (Metro Man is now free from his social burden, and Megamind gets the opportunity to be a good guy that was denied to him as a child)

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* How was Metro Man planning to pursue his dream if he is believed to be dead? Does he have a Clark Kent identity in this universe? What makes Metro Man think Megamind wouldn't conquer the entire planet if he was planning to move to another state to become a musician? It would be kinda difficult to do this if your planet is under control of an evil genius.
** * He's going to create a new identity for himself; in essence, he's going to create a Clark Kent-style identity for himself. And since it was pretty clear that Megamind clearly wasn't going to become much of a dictator -- for all his supervillainy, when you look closely at it is Megamind's post-Metro Man pre-Titan activities were basically a large-scale robbery spree mixed with what is essentially glorified vandalism -- he probably wouldn't have had too much trouble. It's not like Megamind was exercising strict censorship of the arts, after all.
** * And the reason he assumes Megamind won't conquer the entire planet or anything like that is because ''he knows Megamind''. The two have essentially been each other's closest frenemy since childhood. Metro Man knows that there's no major risk on the "potential planetary destruction or domination" front from Megamind because by this point he's familiar with Megamind and knows that ultimately Megamind's not really interested in that.
** * It's quite arguable that not only did he know that Megamind wasn't going to take over the world, but that he forsaw Megamind becoming the new Good to fill the vacuum he left, therefore fulfilling ''both'' of their dreams (Metro Man is now free from his social burden, and Megamind gets the opportunity to be a good guy that was denied to him as a child)



* It really bothers me that Megamind is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable of doing genuinely evil things (in contrast to the real bad guy Titan). Except that, you know, he ''murders a guy and cheers about it''. Yes, Metro Man didn't really die but Megamind wasn't aware of that; for all he knew, he killed another human(oid) being, and was clearly enjoying it. He only regretted it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. (Not to mention that you don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing. Even with the rampant prejudice against blue aliens, or provided that Metro City has an incredibly harsh justice system, you gotta do some pretty fucked-up shit to get this much. This is obviously a humorous exaggeration, but after Metro Man's faked death one has to wonder just what other crimes Megamind committed to warrant several thousand years in prison.)
** Megamind didn't really intend to murder Metro Man; he expected Metro Man to escape and send him back to prison as usual. His state of mind is more like recklessness, playing a deadly game with Metro Man that he should know could result in lethal consequences. He is clearly guilty of numerous crimes, but it isn't really a product of evil intent, more like a screwed up and very immature way of thinking where he thinks his place in the world is to be a dramatic supervillain who is a foil to Metro Man. Once he has killed Metro Man, he is still too immature to really appreciate the depth of his wrongdoing, he is just running off a script of what a supervillain is supposed to do when he wins.
** You do know that kidnapping will give you life sentence, right? And attempted murder? And breaking out of jail?

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* It really bothers me that Megamind is treated throughout the entire movie as a misunderstood loner who isn't capable of doing genuinely evil things (in contrast to the real bad guy Titan). Except that, you know, he ''murders a guy and cheers about it''. Yes, Metro Man didn't really die but Megamind wasn't aware of that; for all he knew, he killed another human(oid) being, and was clearly enjoying it. He only regretted it afterwards because he felt bored and unfulfilled, not because he felt actual remorse. (Not to mention that you don't get ''88 life sentences'' for nothing. Even with the rampant prejudice against blue aliens, or provided that Metro City has an incredibly harsh justice system, you gotta do some pretty fucked-up shit to get this much. This is obviously a humorous exaggeration, but after Metro Man's faked death one has to wonder just what other crimes Megamind committed to warrant several thousand years in prison.)
** * Megamind didn't really intend to murder Metro Man; he expected Metro Man to escape and send him back to prison as usual. His state of mind is more like recklessness, playing a deadly game with Metro Man that he should know could result in lethal consequences. He is clearly guilty of numerous crimes, but it isn't really a product of evil intent, more like a screwed up and very immature way of thinking where he thinks his place in the world is to be a dramatic supervillain who is a foil to Metro Man. Once he has killed Metro Man, he is still too immature to really appreciate the depth of his wrongdoing, he is just running off a script of what a supervillain is supposed to do when he wins.
** * You do know that kidnapping will give you life sentence, right? And attempted murder? And breaking out of jail?



* Just how did Megamind's HeelFaceTurn affect his foster family? By becoming a superhero, he basically betrayed them in favor of getting the affection of the people who ostracized him and made him want to be a villain in the first place! As a child, the inmates were the only people who genuinely cared for him and accepted him for who he was, and now he's making a living out of pursuing bad guys like them? I'd imagine Megamind's next few visits in the Metro City Prison were incredibly awkward.
** Not necessarily. If Megamind had ever been ''any good'' at being a supervillain, they might've been more disappointed, but by all appearances he'd never actually achieved more than to grab a few headlines before getting chucked back in jail. Even if he's on the "wrong" side of the law now, from their perspective, the more paternal-feeling inmates are probably happy that he's found something he's capable of doing well. Plus, just because someone is a criminal doesn't mean they want their ''kids'' to become criminals too; heck, many people get involved in theft or other low-tier crime because they're desperate to ''spare'' their families from a life of poverty and law-breaking.
** During the opening montage, where Megamind in infancy zaps down a prison wall (using his binkey on the homemade tricycle), background animations, voices, and sounds showed that Megamind's fellow prisoners escaped for themselves. It's hard to know if any inmates from Megamind's arrival stayed on through his adulthood, out of caring for him; but we do see that none of his inmates tried to bring him out of prison with them. These are reasons why Megamind's HeelFaceTurn might not be a problem for him and his foster family.

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* Just how did Megamind's HeelFaceTurn affect his foster family? By becoming a superhero, he basically betrayed them in favor of getting the affection of the people who ostracized him and made him want to be a villain in the first place! As a child, the inmates were the only people who genuinely cared for him and accepted him for who he was, and now he's making a living out of pursuing bad guys like them? I'd imagine Megamind's next few visits in the Metro City Prison were incredibly awkward.
** * Not necessarily. If Megamind had ever been ''any good'' at being a supervillain, they might've been more disappointed, but by all appearances he'd never actually achieved more than to grab a few headlines before getting chucked back in jail. Even if he's on the "wrong" side of the law now, from their perspective, the more paternal-feeling inmates are probably happy that he's found something he's capable of doing well. Plus, just because someone is a criminal doesn't mean they want their ''kids'' to become criminals too; heck, many people get involved in theft or other low-tier crime because they're desperate to ''spare'' their families from a life of poverty and law-breaking.
** * During the opening montage, where Megamind in infancy zaps down a prison wall (using his binkey on the homemade tricycle), background animations, voices, and sounds showed that Megamind's fellow prisoners escaped for themselves. It's hard to know if any inmates from Megamind's arrival stayed on through his adulthood, out of caring for him; but we do see that none of his inmates tried to bring him out of prison with them. These are reasons why Megamind's HeelFaceTurn might not be a problem for him and his foster family.



* Were Metro Man's adopted parents aware of his fake death? It seems pretty cruel not to let them know he is alive and well. I can understand fooling the citizens, but also his parents, the 2 people who raised him?
** This assumes that they're alive to begin with; they could have passed away well before the events of the story, making the issue academic.
** Based on the little we get to see about them, the folks who raised Metro Man/Music Man appear to be quite hands-off parents. They regarded the super-baby who dropped into their lives like something more akin to a somewhat amazing pet than a poor, helpless orphaned alien who needs to be sheltered and nurtured. It may be that Metro Man understood deep down inside that while the news of his demise will be received by them with conventional tears and weeds, it will not be long before they will eventually resume their normal richly fulfilling and busy social lives at some pleasant retirement community.
** Who's to say he didn't tell them he's alive, then swear them to secrecy? Hands-off parents or not, it's unlikely that they'd want their adoptive son to be miserable, and force him to continue in a superhero's life he'd long since gotten sick and tired of leading.

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* Were Metro Man's adopted parents aware of his fake death? It seems pretty cruel not to let them know he is alive and well. I can understand fooling the citizens, but also his parents, the 2 people who raised him?
** * This assumes that they're alive to begin with; they could have passed away well before the events of the story, making the issue academic.
** * Based on the little we get to see about them, the folks who raised Metro Man/Music Man appear to be quite hands-off parents. They regarded the super-baby who dropped into their lives like something more akin to a somewhat amazing pet than a poor, helpless orphaned alien who needs to be sheltered and nurtured. It may be that Metro Man understood deep down inside that while the news of his demise will be received by them with conventional tears and weeds, it will not be long before they will eventually resume their normal richly fulfilling and busy social lives at some pleasant retirement community.
** * Who's to say he didn't tell them he's alive, then swear them to secrecy? Hands-off parents or not, it's unlikely that they'd want their adoptive son to be miserable, and force him to continue in a superhero's life he'd long since gotten sick and tired of leading.



* We don't even know the morality of his birth parents and species. Were they violent world conquerors, or a peaceful race? If they were an evil race, then Megamind turning to villainy could be in his blood.
** We don't know, because there's no information published about it anywhere.
** This is really just presuming that a PlanetofHats would actually exist. Why wouldn't one assume they simply had people of varying moral codes built by a variety of factors?

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* We don't even know the morality of his birth parents and species. Were they violent world conquerors, or a peaceful race? If they were an evil race, then Megamind turning to villainy could be in his blood.
** * We don't know, because there's no information published about it anywhere.
** * This is really just presuming that a PlanetofHats would actually exist. Why wouldn't one assume they simply had people of varying moral codes built by a variety of factors?



* Why didn't Megamind just copy Metroman's power again and use it on himself? He could have just made another one in the lab.
** Because he didn't have the infuser gun and used up all the Metroman DNA he had to work with when he made Titan.
** He literally just met Metroman himself though, and he could have simply made another gun.
** Counterpoint: Doing that backfired ''spectacularly'' the first time. And Titan is still invincible. At best you'd have a stalemate.

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* Why didn't Megamind just copy Metroman's power again and use it on himself? He could have just made another one in the lab.
** * Because he didn't have the infuser gun and used up all the Metroman DNA he had to work with when he made Titan.
** * He literally just met Metroman himself though, and he could have simply made another gun.
** * Counterpoint: Doing that backfired ''spectacularly'' the first time. And Titan is still invincible. At best you'd have a stalemate.



* So as Kids, Megamind and Metro Man clearly did not get along at all. As Adults, they might not have hated each other, but they were clearly antagonistic towards each other. Why then, does Metro Man call Megamind "Little Buddy" when he and Roxanne find him in his secluded enclave after having faked his death? Nothing about their relationship has ever hinted that Megamind and Metro Man were ever pals.
** For all the villainy and battles and plots, ultimately they were actually ''were'' pals, even if they never fully realised it. The movie makes abundantly clear that, for all that they were arch-enemies, their sparring is more akin to two wrestlers on opposite sides of the Heel-Face divide playing it up for the crowds rather than genuine enmity for each other, and it's pretty telling that when Metro Man is gone Megamind no longer has a purpose in his life. Ultimately, regardless of how you define their relationship, Metro Man was probably the single most important person in Megamind's life (perhaps even more than Minion and Roxanne) and vice versa, so it's not a huge stretch that some affection developed over time. At very least, they were very clearly frenemies. Besides which, "Little Buddy" is a fairly mild term of affection for someone, so at very least it's just Metro Man indicating that he has no real dislike for Megamind.

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* So as Kids, Megamind and Metro Man clearly did not get along at all. As Adults, they might not have hated each other, but they were clearly antagonistic towards each other. Why then, does Metro Man call Megamind "Little Buddy" when he and Roxanne find him in his secluded enclave after having faked his death? Nothing about their relationship has ever hinted that Megamind and Metro Man were ever pals.
** * For all the villainy and battles and plots, ultimately they were actually ''were'' pals, even if they never fully realised it. The movie makes abundantly clear that, for all that they were arch-enemies, their sparring is more akin to two wrestlers on opposite sides of the Heel-Face divide playing it up for the crowds rather than genuine enmity for each other, and it's pretty telling that when Metro Man is gone Megamind no longer has a purpose in his life. Ultimately, regardless of how you define their relationship, Metro Man was probably the single most important person in Megamind's life (perhaps even more than Minion and Roxanne) and vice versa, so it's not a huge stretch that some affection developed over time. At very least, they were very clearly frenemies. Besides which, "Little Buddy" is a fairly mild term of affection for someone, so at very least it's just Metro Man indicating that he has no real dislike for Megamind.



* How does Roxanne get off the tower that Tighten abandons her on? It doesn't seem to have a ladder or any means for a human to climb down.
** There actually ''is'' a ladder; it can be seen in front of Roxanne when Tighten first puts her on the tower. It's a bit blink-and-you-miss-it and can't be seen in subsequent shots due to character movement and camera angles, but it's there.

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* How does Roxanne get off the tower that Tighten abandons her on? It doesn't seem to have a ladder or any means for a human to climb down.
** * There actually ''is'' a ladder; it can be seen in front of Roxanne when Tighten first puts her on the tower. It's a bit blink-and-you-miss-it and can't be seen in subsequent shots due to character movement and camera angles, but it's there.
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* The storytelling could have gone in other directions. Megamind could have been taken out of prison and provided a (loving or not) foster home; taken from prison and brought into isolation for study or experimentation; taken from prison and sold illegally; taken from prison and sent back into space. Sadly, in either fiction or RealLife, even though every human child deserves a safe and nurturing environment to grow up in, there are people who withhold those rights from a child (ignorantly or willfully, directly or indirectly)--and those actions affect how that child grows up. Terrible events can happen outside of the reach of child protective services.

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* The storytelling could have gone in other directions. Megamind could have been taken out of prison and provided a (loving or not) foster home; taken from prison and brought into isolation for study or experimentation; taken from prison and sold illegally; taken from prison and sent back into space. Sadly, in either fiction or RealLife, even though every human child deserves a safe and nurturing environment to grow up in, there are people who withhold those rights from a child (ignorantly or willfully, directly or indirectly)--and those actions affect things--which affects how that child grows up. Terrible events can things happen outside of the reach of child protective services.
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\n* "The whole situation is a complete contrivance to give Megamind motivation for being a super-villain." Well... [[AnthropicPrinciple yes.]] The movie is about a super-villain. Ergo, things need to happen that lead to him becoming a supervillain. And considering the very first thing we see him do after arriving in the prison is ''lead a prison breakout'', it can be argued that he's actually locked up there for legitimate reasons.

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