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** It's likely that Barry and Batman changed the amounts of each chemical a bit before trying again, so a different mixture might have yielded success when the previous one was a failure.

* A question I've heard several people ask. How is it that simply by saving his mother from being murdered, the Flash created such a [[CrapsackWorld drastically and horribly different universe]] from the main DC-verse? His mother was no one of international importance, she wasn't a major figure in the life of any superhuman save him, she was just a sweet lady whose son grew up to be the Flash. How the heck did saving her life from an act of random meaningless violence create this hellhole universe?

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** It's likely that Barry and Batman changed the amounts of each chemical a bit before trying again, so a different mixture might have yielded success when the previous one was a failure.

* A question I've heard several people ask. How is it that simply by saving his mother from being murdered, the Flash created such a [[CrapsackWorld drastically and horribly different universe]] from the main DC-verse? His mother was no one of international importance, she wasn't a major figure in the life of any superhuman save him, she was just a sweet lady whose son grew up to be the Flash. How the heck did saving her life from an act of random meaningless violence create this hellhole universe?
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** It's likely that Barry and Batman changed the amounts of each chemical a bit before trying again, so a different mixture might have yielded success when the previous one was a failure.

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** It's likely that Barry and Batman changed the amounts of each chemical a bit before trying again, so a different mixture might have yielded success when the previous one was a failure.failure.

* A question I've heard several people ask. How is it that simply by saving his mother from being murdered, the Flash created such a [[CrapsackWorld drastically and horribly different universe]] from the main DC-verse? His mother was no one of international importance, she wasn't a major figure in the life of any superhuman save him, she was just a sweet lady whose son grew up to be the Flash. How the heck did saving her life from an act of random meaningless violence create this hellhole universe?
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* What are the odds that some of the super characters in the alternate timeline having the same name and costume as their normal counterparts? With Yo-yo, it makes sense. Deathstroke was Deathstroke before Barry Allen was a kid, so I can see him having the same name as his normal self.

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* What are the odds that some of the super characters in the alternate timeline AlternateTimeline having the same name and costume as their normal counterparts? With Yo-yo, it makes sense. Deathstroke was Deathstroke before Barry Allen was a kid, so I can see him having the same name as his normal self.
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** Fairly high. I have a a WildMassGuess that when you travel between alternate Timelines/Dimensions you're somehow keyed into worlds that are suspiciously similar to your own. If Owlman is correct in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeageCrisisOnTwoEarths'' that there are infinite universes varying as far as worlds where fish never evolved into terrestrial animals it strains belief that more often than not when you travel between timelines/dimensions you end up in worlds where America is intact. You don't see a lot of worlds where America lost the Revolutionary War or dinosaurs still rule the Earth. Krypton is almost always destroyed (it's a major plot point in the one universe where it wasn't), the good guys and bad guys almost always form the same alliances even if they switched sides and usually all the major players are the same. Its equally rare to find a world that simply doesn't have Batman because any of the defining points in his life either went better (no dead parents) or worse (the criminal took two extra seconds and an extra bullet to eliminate the sole eye witness). You don't see worlds for example where Lex and Superman are best friends fighting against Bruce Wayne who decided to take over the world so nobody would suffer like he did. When you think about how many things have to happen just so for any given hero or villain to exist in the first place (Thomas Wayne being rich, marrying Martha, naming Bruce Bruce instead of Richard or Damian, taking their son to a Zorro Expy movie and getting killed. Kal-el being found by the Kents instead of the Waynes, Luthors, Queens or literally millions of no name schucks hell landing in North America at all) and accept all those things happen consistently the fact that they keep choosing the same names is hardly a leap of logic. It's not just DC however nearly every show that deals with alternate universes seem to be largely confined to worlds with only a few key differences.

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** Fairly high. I have a a WildMassGuess that when you travel between alternate Timelines/Dimensions you're somehow keyed into worlds that are suspiciously similar to your own. If Owlman is correct in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeageCrisisOnTwoEarths'' ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueCrisisOnTwoEarths'' that there are infinite universes varying as far as worlds where fish never evolved into terrestrial animals it strains belief that more often than not when you travel between timelines/dimensions you end up in worlds where America is intact. You don't see a lot of worlds where America lost the Revolutionary War or dinosaurs still rule the Earth. Krypton is almost always destroyed (it's a major plot point in the one universe where it wasn't), the good guys and bad guys almost always form the same alliances even if they switched sides and usually all the major players are the same. Its equally rare to find a world that simply doesn't have Batman because any of the defining points in his life either went better (no dead parents) or worse (the criminal took two extra seconds and an extra bullet to eliminate the sole eye witness). You don't see worlds for example where Lex and Superman are best friends fighting against Bruce Wayne who decided to take over the world so nobody would suffer like he did. When you think about how many things have to happen just so for any given hero or villain to exist in the first place (Thomas Wayne being rich, marrying Martha, naming Bruce Bruce instead of Richard or Damian, taking their son to a Zorro Expy movie and getting killed. Kal-el being found by the Kents instead of the Waynes, Luthors, Queens or literally millions of no name schucks hell landing in North America at all) and accept all those things happen consistently the fact that they keep choosing the same names is hardly a leap of logic. It's not just DC however nearly every show that deals with alternate universes seem to be largely confined to worlds with only a few key differences.
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** Fairly high. I have a a WildMassGuess that when you travel between alternate Timelines/Dimensions you're somehow keyed into worlds that are suspiciously similar to your own. If Owlman is correct in Justice Leage: Crisis on Two Earths that there are infinite universes varying as far as worlds where fish never evolved into terrestrial animals it strains belief that more often than not when you travel between timelines/dimensions you end up in worlds where America is intact. You don't see a lot of worlds where America lost the Revolutionary War or dinosaurs still rule the Earth. Krypton is almost always destroyed (it's a major plot point in the one universe where it wasn't), the good guys and bad guys almost always form the same alliances even if they switched sides and usually all the major players are the same. Its equally rare to find a world that simply doesn't have Batman because any of the defining points in his life either went better (no dead parents) or worse (the criminal took two extra seconds and an extra bullet to eliminate the sole eye witness). You don't see worlds for example where Lex and Superman are best friends fighting against Bruce Wayne who decided to take over the world so nobody would suffer like he did. When you think about how many things have to happen just so for any given hero or villain to exist in the first place (Thomas Wayne being rich, marrying Martha, naming Bruce Bruce instead of Richard or Damian, taking their son to a Zorro Expy movie and getting killed. Kal-el being found by the Kents instead of the Waynes, Luthors, Queens or literally millions of no name schucks hell landing in North America at all) and accept all those things happen consistently the fact that they keep choosing the same names is hardly a leap of logic. It's not just DC however nearly every show that deals with alternate universes seem to be largely confined to worlds with only a few key differences.

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** Fairly high. I have a a WildMassGuess that when you travel between alternate Timelines/Dimensions you're somehow keyed into worlds that are suspiciously similar to your own. If Owlman is correct in Justice Leage: Crisis on Two Earths ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeageCrisisOnTwoEarths'' that there are infinite universes varying as far as worlds where fish never evolved into terrestrial animals it strains belief that more often than not when you travel between timelines/dimensions you end up in worlds where America is intact. You don't see a lot of worlds where America lost the Revolutionary War or dinosaurs still rule the Earth. Krypton is almost always destroyed (it's a major plot point in the one universe where it wasn't), the good guys and bad guys almost always form the same alliances even if they switched sides and usually all the major players are the same. Its equally rare to find a world that simply doesn't have Batman because any of the defining points in his life either went better (no dead parents) or worse (the criminal took two extra seconds and an extra bullet to eliminate the sole eye witness). You don't see worlds for example where Lex and Superman are best friends fighting against Bruce Wayne who decided to take over the world so nobody would suffer like he did. When you think about how many things have to happen just so for any given hero or villain to exist in the first place (Thomas Wayne being rich, marrying Martha, naming Bruce Bruce instead of Richard or Damian, taking their son to a Zorro Expy movie and getting killed. Kal-el being found by the Kents instead of the Waynes, Luthors, Queens or literally millions of no name schucks hell landing in North America at all) and accept all those things happen consistently the fact that they keep choosing the same names is hardly a leap of logic. It's not just DC however nearly every show that deals with alternate universes seem to be largely confined to worlds with only a few key differences.
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* The detail about the death toll in the Amazonian conquest of England (half the population) is a nice way to slip the whole {{Gendercide}} thing in there [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar without having to say it]]. However, it brings with it some UnfortunateImplications. Namely, it's based on the assumption that the women of England... just stand there and ''let it happen.'' That mothers do nothing while their sons are taken from their homes and executed. Even if only 10% of women acted to try to stop the Gendercide, that'd still be an additional 3 million dead.

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* The detail about the death toll in the Amazonian conquest of England (half the population) is a nice way to slip the whole {{Gendercide}} thing in there [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar without having to say it]].it. However, it brings with it some UnfortunateImplications. Namely, it's based on the assumption that the women of England... just stand there and ''let it happen.'' That mothers do nothing while their sons are taken from their homes and executed. Even if only 10% of women acted to try to stop the Gendercide, that'd still be an additional 3 million dead.

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