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*** Thank you for the response, but one thing is tripping me up. To quote from the [[wiki https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Experience_Requiem]]:

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*** Thank you for the response, but one thing is tripping me up. To quote from the [[wiki wiki https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Experience_Requiem]]: com/wiki/Gold_Experience_Requiem:
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response king crimson death loop

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***Thank you for the response, but one thing is tripping me up. To quote from the [[wiki https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Experience_Requiem]]:
****Death Loop
If the opponent is killed by Gold Experience Requiem, then they will continuously experience death, as they will die but repeatedly return to point "zero"; the point immediately before the process of death (i.e Diavolo's infinite death loops). Through this ability, GER creates a new "reality", as it calls it, for Diavolo as a form of poetic justice for the multiple times the mob boss has manipulated reality to his advantage with King Crimson.
****Diavolo is repeatedly manifested to the moment before death, so is alive, and I can't understand how King Crimson can't get in there at all . . . to further, The Golden Experience Requiem ability is to reduce things to zero, and King Crimson's ability erases time, so it doesn't make sense that King Crimson erasing time is not bringing a vector of time to zero in some fashion.
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** They dont NEED food, but they can want it, more then likely it does go to Mista, since it has to go somewhere
** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian Now that's Italian]] !

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** They dont don't NEED food, but they can want it, more then likely it does go to Mista, since it has to go somewhere
** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed recognized as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian [[GratuitousItalian Now that's Italian]] !
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** Dunno about when they were still in Japan, but Passione already had Italy by the balls during Giorno's youth. Child services likely wouldn't have been much help.
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[[folder:Giorno's Mother]]
* How did Giorno's mom get away with neglecting her son when he was a child? Wouldn't the neighbours or a coworker be aware and contact child services?
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** You kinda just answered your own question. Diavolo no longer can summon his Stand because his soul is trapped in Giorno's very own Purgatory. Kira only briefly summoned Killer Queen (before it got ripped apart like pita bread) in Reimi's Alley because his soul wasn't dragged off to hell yet, and that might've just been some black magic fuckery anyway, similar to when the alley tricked Koichi into thinking Reimi was telling him to look behind him.
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Why didn't Gold Experience change when stabbed by Black Sabbath

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***Absolutely, though rather than "changed" it must require a need. Did the arrow arbitrarily affect Silver Chariot to not only switch everybody's souls but to give it omniscience over what was happening to the arrow at any time? If it were to pierce King Crimson it's attitude might be "yeah, hey, go ahead, get stronger, duh" and leave it at that?
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Illuso can read minds?

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**Difficult to say. It seems reasonable though that it's just the razor's (or the mirror's) edge of survival logic running rampant at high speeds, similar to Jotaro's battle with the Hanged Man. Giorno's plan to bluff most likely (and unspokenly) relied on Illuso's ability to see anything where there were shards of mirror present. He knew Illuso had omnipresence in the mirror world, so he baited him to give himself some leverage against the odds.
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Where was Chariot Requiem going

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**Symbolism. As everyone's souls are switched due to the shadow cast by the light of Chariot's Requiem, it's meandering (it's particular form of saunter it would seem) mirrors the soul's of the switched traversing space to their alternate shells. It explains his ethereal appearance as such to justify his existence and wandering to "make up" for the forced travel the souls must have endured at literally the speed of that light to the alternate body. It is a very karmic representation . . .
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** Holistically moving to a lower position ie comitting entire mass, not lower-erly moving in just any way. Tapping fingers impatiently deciding what move to make next? [[MediumAwareness Well . . .]]

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** Holistically moving to a lower position ie comitting entire mass, not lower-erly moving in just any way. Tapping fingers impatiently deciding what move to make next? [[MediumAwareness Well . . .]]]] Also to be completely honest, the ribs move downward when exhaling [[PuffOfLogic to say nothing of walking]].
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Green day Arc

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**Holistically moving to a lower position ie comitting entire mass, not lower-erly moving in just any way. Tapping fingers impatiently deciding what move to make next? [[MediumAwareness Well . . .]]
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The inciting factor of Aerosmith

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**Also, does not the little man in the cockpit resemble an [[EyeofHorusMeansEgypt eye]] when viewed from above? Does it not utilize an obnoxiously optical targeting sight? In addition to his reckless nature, the word to focus on here as well is [[TranquilFury abandon]], as his Stand barrels through the air annihilating all that breathe. This must have been how he felt about the eye disease as well as it jumped from victim to victim indiscriminately affecting his life as naturally as others breathed.
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** Possibly the boss wanted to keep Trish on her guard for due to two plot elements: her ability to sense her father, and her not yet having awakened to her Stand. The boss wants Trish to be just as wary a the lackey (in this case Buccialati) establishing a sense of powerless in her that would keep her from suddenly awakening. This goes hand in hand with the setting, lackey leads her up to a high place alone so she is already uneasy, writes off her [[https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=131&q=hulk+homing+sense&cvid=fbf02c4854f149048f82be730033828c&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhA0gEIMzI3OWowajGoAgCwAgA&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531 spidy sense]] of him as this, he stay in the shadows cast by sundown, activates King Crimson and obliterates her in existential silence.

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** Possibly the boss wanted to keep Trish on her guard for due to two plot elements: her ability to sense her father, and her not yet having awakened to her Stand. The boss wants Trish to be just as wary a the lackey (in this case Buccialati) Bucciarati) establishing a sense of powerless in her that would keep her from suddenly awakening. This goes hand in hand with the setting, lackey leads her up to a high place alone so she is already uneasy, writes off her [[https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=131&q=hulk+homing+sense&cvid=fbf02c4854f149048f82be730033828c&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhA0gEIMzI3OWowajGoAgCwAgA&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531 spidy sense]] of him as this, he stay stays in the shadows cast by sundown, activates King Crimson and obliterates her in existential silence.
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Elevator scene

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** Possibly the boss wanted to keep Trish on her guard for due to two plot elements: her ability to sense her father, and her not yet having awakened to her Stand. The boss wants Trish to be just as wary a the lackey (in this case Buccialati) establishing a sense of powerless in her that would keep her from suddenly awakening. This goes hand in hand with the setting, lackey leads her up to a high place alone so she is already uneasy, writes off her [[https://www.bing.com/search?pglt=131&q=hulk+homing+sense&cvid=fbf02c4854f149048f82be730033828c&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIGCAEQRRhA0gEIMzI3OWowajGoAgCwAgA&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531 spidy sense]] of him as this, he stay in the shadows cast by sundown, activates King Crimson and obliterates her in existential silence.
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Gold Experience temperature rules addition

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***[[DownTheRabbitHole This troper learned]] waaaaaay back in high school biology that the chemical pathway by which oxygen and carbon react during the combustion of wood is the same as how it reacts in glycolysis (iirc, double check with a biology experts who knows their KREBS) in living tissue, the only difference being the RATE at which this occurs. Obviously [[GodzillaThreshold child's play]] for Gold Experience.
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***[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AWizardDidIt Holy crap]], well put.
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*** to agree with the scarab arrow design explanation, this troper believes all of the other tropers are forgetting it's heavily implied that the non-scarab arrow kills the user of a Stand and the Stands themselves are unaffected by the normal arrow. Also [[ https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Bow_and_Arrow meh]], quote "The effects of an Arrow piercing a Stand or its user after awakening are accompanied by a certain level of uncertainty."

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*** to agree with the scarab arrow design explanation, this troper believes all of the other tropers are forgetting it's heavily implied that the non-scarab arrow kills the user of a Stand and the Stands themselves are unaffected by the normal arrow. Also [[ https://jojo.[[https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Bow_and_Arrow meh]], quote "The effects of an Arrow piercing a Stand or its user after awakening are accompanied by a certain level of uncertainty."
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*** to agree with the scarab arrow design explanation, this troper believes all of the other tropers are forgetting it's heavily implied that the non-scarab arrow kills the user of a Stand and the Stands themselves are unaffected by the normal arrow. Also [[meh https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Bow_and_Arrow]], quote "The effects of an Arrow piercing a Stand or its user after awakening are accompanied by a certain level of uncertainty."

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*** to agree with the scarab arrow design explanation, this troper believes all of the other tropers are forgetting it's heavily implied that the non-scarab arrow kills the user of a Stand and the Stands themselves are unaffected by the normal arrow. Also [[meh [[ https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Bow_and_Arrow]], com/wiki/Bow_and_Arrow meh]], quote "The effects of an Arrow piercing a Stand or its user after awakening are accompanied by a certain level of uncertainty."
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****to agree with the scarab arrow design explanation, this troper believes all of the other tropers are forgetting it's heavily implied that the non-scarab arrow kills the user of a Stand and the Stands themselves are unaffected by the normal arrow. Also [[meh https://jojo.fandom.com/wiki/Bow_and_Arrow]], quote "The effects of an Arrow piercing a Stand or its user after awakening are accompanied by a certain level of uncertainty."
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [GratuitousItalian Now that's Italian] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [GratuitousItalian [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian Now that's Italian] Italian]] !
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [GratuitousItalian Now that's Italian]] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [GratuitousItalian Now that's Italian]] Italian] !
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now [that's Italian GratuitousItalian]] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. [GratuitousItalian Now [that's Italian GratuitousItalian]] that's Italian]] !
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now [that'sItalian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian]] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now [that'sItalian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian]] [that's Italian GratuitousItalian]] !
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now that'sItalian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now that'sItalian[https://tvtropes.[that'sItalian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian] php/Main/GratuitousItalian]] !
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now that's Italian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now that's Italian[https://tvtropes.that'sItalian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian] !
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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now [that's Italian https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian]] !

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** It could be a respect thing, to accentuate the whole Italy setting . . . ah! If Stands are affected by their user's mood, those little bullet bastards may be taking the psychological route ie Mista is the one whose esteem is built up from taking care of them in this way. It's a subconscious urge on the part of Sex Pistol due to it's nature to be an accomplice that can be recognozed as easy/simple to please and returns a sense of usefulness back to it's user. Now [that's Italian https://tvtropes.that's Italian[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GratuitousItalian]] php/Main/GratuitousItalian] !

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