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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly have any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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*** Yeah, actually this bugged me too. It seems really too conventient that this jet ''precisely'' split into five when their team didn't exist a few minutes ago, and Hulk couldn't possibly have any clue that Ricky would turn into A-Bomb or Skaar would join them. At least, in the various TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles Franchise/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series for exemple, example, they took time to explain how the Turtles got their vehicles and built them.
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*** Well for one thing the Hulk is driven on anger while the Thing isn't. It was mentioned in episode 1 he had mindless days, so it's implied he's had a destructive past, with his new controlled intelligence being a new thing.If it's connected to Ultimate Spider-Man then until recently he couldn't talk and didn't have as much control over himself.
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*** Well for one thing the Hulk is driven on anger while the Thing isn't. It was mentioned in episode 1 he had mindless days, so it's implied he's had a destructive past, with his new controlled intelligence being a new thing. If it's connected to Ultimate Spider-Man ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' then until recently he couldn't talk and didn't have as much control over himself.
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}.'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit). EDIT: The "Planet Monster" two parter contrasts Avengers-Hulk with Smashers-Hulk and concludes that his intelligence is the same but he's more uptight with the Avengers, and plays more into the "Hulk Smash!" shtick since it's expected of him.
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Ultimate Spider-Man}}'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit). EDIT: The "Planet Monster" two parter contrasts Avengers-Hulk with Smashers-Hulk and concludes that his intelligence is the same but he's more uptight with the Avengers, and plays more into the "Hulk Smash!" shtick since it's expected of him.
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**** Well, J.J. has been depicted this way in a lot of adaptations. The oldest adaptation I remember the most was the 1981 Spider-Man series wherein J.J. always raged against Spider-Man but praised Doctor Doom every time the tyrant was around due to propaganda which J.J. kinda unintentionally helped spread. J.J. does talk about other things like what happened in the pilot episodes of WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble but his rants against Spider-Man are so common that it's hard to think of him doing anything else.
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**** Well, J.J. has been depicted this way in a lot of adaptations. The oldest adaptation I remember the most was the [[WesternAnimation/SpiderMan1981 1981 Spider-Man Spider-Man]] series wherein J.J. always raged against Spider-Man but praised Doctor Doom every time the tyrant was around due to propaganda which J.J. kinda unintentionally helped spread. J.J. does talk about other things like what happened in the pilot episodes of WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble but his rants against Spider-Man are so common that it's hard to think of him doing anything else.
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** ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' rules. In the same way as Marty's 1985 stops existing as soon as his parents never meet, and ''stays'' not existing until they actually kiss, even though Marty's part in these events is technically done, the Leader's present starts existing as soon as his plan is put in motion, and then continues until the past is put back the way it was. (If it weren't for the Dracula episode, I'd suggest that the fact Leader and Hulk are time-travelling separately was significant; the bad present is the one that exists "between" his time-jump and Hulk's. But that obviously doesn't work for that episode.)
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** ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' rules. In the same way as Marty's 1985 stops existing as soon as his parents never meet, and ''stays'' not existing until they actually kiss, even though Marty's part in these events is technically done, the Leader's present starts existing as soon as his plan is put in motion, and then continues until the past is put back the way it was. (If it weren't for the Dracula episode, I'd suggest that the fact Leader and Hulk are time-travelling separately was significant; the bad present is the one that exists "between" his time-jump and Hulk's. But that obviously doesn't work for that episode.)
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit).
* The whole "Days of Future Smash" arc. The present is altered as Hulk and Leader's actions in the past are played out, then altered again (back to normal) when those actions are completed. How does that work? It wasn't like Hulk was changing events the Leader had already altered, only stopping him from altering history in the first place. His actions ultimately kept history from changing, so why would the present be altered at all?
* The whole "Days of Future Smash" arc. The present is altered as Hulk and Leader's actions in the past are played out, then altered again (back to normal) when those actions are completed. How does that work? It wasn't like Hulk was changing events the Leader had already altered, only stopping him from altering history in the first place. His actions ultimately kept history from changing, so why would the present be altered at all?
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit).
fit). EDIT: The "Planet Monster" two parter contrasts Avengers-Hulk with Smashers-Hulk and concludes that his intelligence is the same but he's more uptight with the Avengers, and plays more into the "Hulk Smash!" shtick since it's expected of him.
* The whole "Days of Future Smash" arc. The present is altered as Hulk and Leader's actions in the past are played out, then altered again (back to normal) when those actions are completed. How does that work? It wasn't like Hulk was changing events the Leader had already altered, only stopping him from altering history in the first place. His actions ultimately kept history from changing, so why would the present be altered atall?all?
** ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' rules. In the same way as Marty's 1985 stops existing as soon as his parents never meet, and ''stays'' not existing until they actually kiss, even though Marty's part in these events is technically done, the Leader's present starts existing as soon as his plan is put in motion, and then continues until the past is put back the way it was. (If it weren't for the Dracula episode, I'd suggest that the fact Leader and Hulk are time-travelling separately was significant; the bad present is the one that exists "between" his time-jump and Hulk's. But that obviously doesn't work for that episode.)
* The whole "Days of Future Smash" arc. The present is altered as Hulk and Leader's actions in the past are played out, then altered again (back to normal) when those actions are completed. How does that work? It wasn't like Hulk was changing events the Leader had already altered, only stopping him from altering history in the first place. His actions ultimately kept history from changing, so why would the present be altered at
** ''Film/BackToTheFuture'' rules. In the same way as Marty's 1985 stops existing as soon as his parents never meet, and ''stays'' not existing until they actually kiss, even though Marty's part in these events is technically done, the Leader's present starts existing as soon as his plan is put in motion, and then continues until the past is put back the way it was. (If it weren't for the Dracula episode, I'd suggest that the fact Leader and Hulk are time-travelling separately was significant; the bad present is the one that exists "between" his time-jump and Hulk's. But that obviously doesn't work for that episode.)
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit).
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit).fit).
* The whole "Days of Future Smash" arc. The present is altered as Hulk and Leader's actions in the past are played out, then altered again (back to normal) when those actions are completed. How does that work? It wasn't like Hulk was changing events the Leader had already altered, only stopping him from altering history in the first place. His actions ultimately kept history from changing, so why would the present be altered at all?
* The whole "Days of Future Smash" arc. The present is altered as Hulk and Leader's actions in the past are played out, then altered again (back to normal) when those actions are completed. How does that work? It wasn't like Hulk was changing events the Leader had already altered, only stopping him from altering history in the first place. His actions ultimately kept history from changing, so why would the present be altered at all?
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*** They most likely don't. The format of the show makes it very difficult to cleanly establish chronology but the interviews on the webcast are obviously staged after the fact. The room is most likely at their Vista Verde headquarters. The episode ''The Incredible Shrinking Hulks'' has She-Hulk still minaturized commenting on the circumstances. So either the Hulks can simply shatter the 4th Wall like Spiderman and excuse themselves from the episode to speak directly to the viewers OR once the adventure is over they agree to do their interviews up to and including shrinking Jen just for the sake of a webisode. As it relates to the original question my best guess would be that by the time they actually film the various interviews everybody on the team is privy to the information and they are just hamming it up for audience just like on a reality show.
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** How did Hulk and Rick keep the other Agents from knowing secrets they posted on the vlog?
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** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't. He does, however, seem to be ''more'' intelligent/rational in ''Agents of SMASH'' even than in ''Avengers'', and it's assumed this is due to whatever happened between the two series (assuming ''[=AoS=]'' is set after ''AA'', which is probably the best way to make them fit).
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* I find it weird Hulk is talking like a normal person here. Do the Avengers notice this, or do they still think Hulk is a dumb monster who speaks like a child? Is this like rugrats where the character is speaking normal to the audience, but sounds like a child to the adults?
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* I find it weird Hulk is talking like a normal person here. Do the Avengers notice this, or do they still think Hulk is a dumb monster who speaks like a child? Is this like rugrats where the character is speaking normal to the audience, but sounds like a child to the adults?adults?
** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't.
** Hulk had his intelligence enhanced in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' episode "The Incredible Spider-Hulk". There was an entire arc of ''WesternAnimation/AvengersAssemble'' about the Avengers not treating Hulk like a dumb monster who just smashes things, because it's very clear he isn't.
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** Doom has never really been one to care about what others think of him, since he considers everyone lesser beings.
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** Doom has never really been one to care about what others think of him, since he considers everyone lesser beings.beings.
* I find it weird Hulk is talking like a normal person here. Do the Avengers notice this, or do they still think Hulk is a dumb monster who speaks like a child? Is this like rugrats where the character is speaking normal to the audience, but sounds like a child to the adults?
* I find it weird Hulk is talking like a normal person here. Do the Avengers notice this, or do they still think Hulk is a dumb monster who speaks like a child? Is this like rugrats where the character is speaking normal to the audience, but sounds like a child to the adults?
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.]]'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.]]'' ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
** It seems Skaar isn't related to the Hulk in this series. During "Planet Leader," he spoke of having a family, and losing them due to the Leader's machinations. It's highly unlikely time travel was involved, since the Hulks returned from Sakarr in the same time zone.
** Considering the jet was first seen being used by Red, it's most likely a military-issue vehicle (which would also explain the separation function).
** The Collector referred to the other Agents as "variants," meaning they had enough uniqueness value to be part of his collection, despite their alliance with Hulk.
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** Doom has never really been one to care about what others think of him, since he considers everyone lesserlesser beings.
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* Dr. Doom is a man who thinks he's good guy, right? He does bad things, but it's for the greater good (in his mind). How come he doesn't get offended when other villains refer to him as evil? The leader wants him to join forces with him to become a villain team. Doom is not at all offended? In his warped mind, he is a good man who wants to "save the world".
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* Dr. Doom is a man who thinks he's good guy, right? He does bad things, but it's for the greater good (in his mind). How come he doesn't get offended when other villains refer to him as evil? The leader wants him to join forces with him to become a villain team. Doom is not at all offended? In his warped mind, he is a good man who wants to "save the world".world".
** Doom has never really been one to care about what others think of him, since he considers everyone lesser
** Doom has never really been one to care about what others think of him, since he considers everyone lesser
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* Dr. Doom is a man who thinks he's good guy, right? He does bad things, but it's for the greater good (in his mind). How come he doesn't get offended when other villains refer to him as evil? The leader wants him to join forces with him to become a villain team. Doom is not at all offended?
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* Dr. Doom is a man who thinks he's good guy, right? He does bad things, but it's for the greater good (in his mind). How come he doesn't get offended when other villains refer to him as evil? The leader wants him to join forces with him to become a villain team. Doom is not at all offended?offended? In his warped mind, he is a good man who wants to "save the world".
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* Leader: "Hey, a vlog where I can keep an eye on my greatest enemy and learn his secrets. Wait, ''they already know Skarr works for me!?''"
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* Leader: "Hey, a vlog where I can keep an eye on my greatest enemy and learn his secrets. Wait, ''they already know Skarr works for me!?''"me!?''"
* Dr. Doom is a man who thinks he's good guy, right? He does bad things, but it's for the greater good (in his mind). How come he doesn't get offended when other villains refer to him as evil? The leader wants him to join forces with him to become a villain team. Doom is not at all offended?
* Dr. Doom is a man who thinks he's good guy, right? He does bad things, but it's for the greater good (in his mind). How come he doesn't get offended when other villains refer to him as evil? The leader wants him to join forces with him to become a villain team. Doom is not at all offended?
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** He still has the control and anger issues, they're just played differently. When he's angry enough he'll begin reverting back to Savage Hulk mannerisms, complete with a lapse back into traditional HulkSpeak. And Hulk is shown to not like that part of himself, he's not that raging monster anymore. His worst fear is being overcome with rage and when he had his rage removed from him and made into a new being he taunted him about how he was the part of him that he represses. Hulk even says he was happier without the rage, but at the same time he knows it's a part of him.
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan Ultimate Spider-man.]]'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan Ultimate Spider-man.''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan.]]'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
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** He still has the control and anger issues, they're just played differently. When he's angry enough he'll begin reverting back to Savage Hulk mannerisms, complete with a lapse back into traditional HulkSpeak.
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*** Look at Hulk during the "Hulked-out Heroes" episode on AvengersAssemble. He's simply a hell of a lot more ''experienced'' with dealing with the problems of being a hulk than anyone else. Jenn, Red, and Rick are all fairly new in comparison and Skaar used to be a sort of opressor/enforcer of sorts in sakaar so he'd have no reason to deal with his rage issues.
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* The characters page said Ant-Man, Wasp, Ghost Rider, and a bunch of others were among those the Collector had captured. I saw the episode, and I couldn't even see who was in any of the pods (except Howard the Duck)
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* Leader: "Hey, a vlog where I can keep an eye on my greatest enemy and learn his secrets. Wait, ''they already know Skarr works for me!?''"
* Leader: "Hey, a vlog where I can keep an eye on my greatest enemy and learn his secrets. Wait, ''they already know Skarr works for me!?''"
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** Also, there are six Hulkbusters for only five Hulks. You might assume Stark just keeps a bunch of them ready, because they're used in situations where they're likely to get wrecked. He might have just made mods on a few too match them to the actual Hulks.
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** There are different levels of anger, the one he usually tends to be at, and various higher levels. It's best for him to simmer rather than go full out rage. Perhaps this is what he's referring to?
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* The characters page said Ant-Man, Wasp, Ghost Rider, and a bunch of others were among those the Collector had captured. I saw the episode, and I couldn't even see who was in any of the pods (except Howard the Duck)
* The characters page said Ant-Man, Wasp, Ghost Rider, and a bunch of others were among those the Collector had captured. I saw the episode, and I couldn't even see who was in any of the pods (except Howard the Duck)
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** Hulk used to be a rage powered agent of destruction, just look at ''[[WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan Ultimate Spider-man.]]'' He also had anger issues in ''AvengersAssemble.'' The question is, what happened to turn him from being the Hulk we all know and love into the most level-headed member of a team made up entirely of Gamma powered Hulks?
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*** Maybe it is an attempted different take on the 'bring out repressed parts of yourself' thing? Being a Ripper-ish hater of the Hulk wasn't repressed in the least, but maybe Ross in this continuity hid a sneaking respect for the Hulk underneath, which the Hulkification and its consequences ended up bringing to the surface (after all, Ross now looks pretty close to a colour-swap of the Hulk)?
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** It's assumed that this version of Hulk is kind of a combination of Professor/Merged and a little of Worldbreaker, who can get savage but for the most part is pretty coherent and intelligent.
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** There are different levels of anger, the one he usually tends to be at, and various higher levels. It's best for him to simmer rather than go full out rage. Perhaps this is what he's referring to?
** There are different levels of anger, the one he usually tends to be at, and various higher levels. It's best for him to simmer rather than go full out rage. Perhaps this is what he's referring to?
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**** Not really 100% sure of this, but didn't J.J. still did that to Spidey in the comics even when Spidey was apart of a super hero team. I know Spidey is a member of the Avengers in the comics or something. Did J.J. stop bad mouthing about Spidey then? I'm not sure myself but I think he still did from what I can gather. Besides considering that J.J. was sued for libel by Spidey and She-Hulk in the comics, J.J.'s current depictions might not be totally flanderized and off the mark.
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*** This version of J.J. '''has''' suffered {{Flanderization}} because in other versions the web-head is technically a vigilante, and Spidey pulls pranks of J.J. that don't help his case. Here he's under the supervision of S.H.I.E.L.D. and has never met the man face to face, making the rivalry entirely one-sided.
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* Saw an episode preview where Hulk says "Calm down!". How is this possible? Isn't he supposed to be angry and not that calmed?
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* Saw an episode preview where Hulk says "Calm down!". How is this possible? Isn't he supposed to be angry and not that calmed?calmed?
** It's assumed that this version of Hulk is kind of a combination of Professor/Merged and a little of Worldbreaker, who can get savage but for the most part is pretty coherent and intelligent.
** It's assumed that this version of Hulk is kind of a combination of Professor/Merged and a little of Worldbreaker, who can get savage but for the most part is pretty coherent and intelligent.
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** RH is also a former U.S. army general. It's possible that his past as a villain isn't public knowledge in this version, so JJ might've supported him.
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*** Still doesn't answer the original question. She-Hulks main power is super strength and she's weaker than Hulk. The Hulkbuster should work just fine on her. A custom version for her still doesn't make a lot of sense and as the OP mentioned doesn't explain at all why A-Bomb and Skarr versions exist at all. Perhaps there was time between the pilot but that isn't shown.
