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* In regards to the new series: Is it just me or did Eternia accept Randor's appointment as king ''way'' too easily? I mean, sure Randor is a nice guy and all but they pretty much only have his team to confirm his appointment as king. The people are fine with going from council-run to a monarchy?
** They may not know he was appointed by the Elders, but since the Council wasn't there anymore, the better choice was the man who led the troops to save everyone from Keldor's rule.
** Well it was a monarchy before the Elders and the people trust their wisdom.
* The BrokenAesop in the 2002 episode "The Courage of Adam". Here when Adam tries to prove he can be useful as well he's captured almost immediately which implies that Adam is useless as Adam and really needs his alter ego form to be of any use. I mean shouldn't He-Man be a ''last resort''. While the episodes ''point'' was He-Man will always be needed, it shows it very poorly.
** Did you miss the prevous episodes where we learned that Adam has spent his life goofing off, ignoring the potential return of the Evil Warriors, and not taking his combat training seriously? The rest of the team are warriors from the last time Keldor tried to take over and Teela, who has taken her training damn seriously, and even they get hit pretty hard anytime He-man isn't around, and even sometimes when he is. It wasn't a Be Yourself episode, it was an Accept Your Responsibilities And Live With The Consequences. Adam has nobody but himself to blame for his incompetence.
** Maybe but this is a repeat of a similar event in the original series where he was trying to prove he can be of use and can be a hero when he tries to save his father as himself, not as He-Man. In this version he's doesn't have the incompetence excuse you claim because it the She-Ra SpinOff we see he ''can'' fight and Teela has been teaching him. Not to mention in the 2002 episode he can keep up with Teela in the game so it's not as though he not completely untrained. And my point was the message was poorly executed not that it wasn't clear.
*** Yes, Adam can sort of keep up with Teela while playing around. Actual combat? Totally different. Adam DOES have some skills but they are nowhere close to enough to fight the Evil Warriors. The entire point of the pilot is that He-Man is a necessity, Adam alone is not enough. And even in the old deries we see Adam was still slacking off, though it's entirely possible that finding out he had a sister determined to stay in a war zone got him to buckle down and actually train so he'd be of use. On Eternia he has a whole army backing him, so he's just the big gun.
*** Actually he showed he could fight ''before'' he found out he was looking for his sister. What makes no sense to me is the fact in the first version, other heroes have the same training he's had and ''can'' handle the Evil Warriors to a degree. you think they would make it look like he might have won. The way things were going I think the King would've put ''He-Man'' on the throne instead of his son due to his need for the disguise.



* In the new series Zodak pretty much admitted that he allowed himself to be beaten so that King Hiss would be freed and Zodak would have the chance to finish him off once and for all. This results in massive damage to several kingdoms, several people being eaten alive by King Hiss, and the slow death of the Sorceress by King Hiss' venom (and yes, that's where the story was going, they admit it on the commentary) and there are no consequences and nobody calls him on it.
** There was an Aesop at the end of the episode that said don't act like Zodak, it was cut from the US release... and he did get called out and apologized. Really just EasilyForgiven.



* Why doesn't Orko just get a new wand? That way he can actually do helpful magic instead of risk magic that often backfires.
** Probably he needs a Trollan-made wand and a wand made in Eternia wouldn't be compatible with his magic. That said, in the last issue of the short-lived Image comic, he ''does'' get a new wand (thanks to a message left for him by the Oracle)... though since the comic was cancelled before he ever got to use it, it's hard to say how much his magic would have improved.
* Why did the Faceless 1 basically allow Evil Lynn to take the Ramstone?
** She sucker punched him with magic and knocked him out. His guard was down because she was his daughter, he doesn't want to hurt her, and she was somewhat honest when she said she had no interest in the stone.
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*** So why doesn't Adam transform into He-Man in public, and then remain transformed forever?

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*** So why doesn't Adam transform into He-Man in public, and then remain transformed forever?forever?
*** Because Adam doesn't want to be "on" 24/7, he needs downtime and he doesn't want to be seen as just He-Man.
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** If they know that Adam is He-Man, then it would only be a few short steps to make the connection that the sword is needed for Adam to transform. Once any of the bad guys figure that out, it's as easy as just taking the sword while Adam's still Adam, then tossing the sword in the bottom of a lava lake so no one can get it. Bada Bing bada boom, you've taken over the world. It doesn't quite explain why he doesn't tell trustworthy folks like Teela or his parents, but it's at least a reason why he doesn't throw the fact out on a whim.

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** If they know that Adam is He-Man, then it would only be a few short steps to make the connection that the sword is needed for Adam to transform. Once any of the bad guys figure that out, it's as easy as just taking the sword while Adam's still Adam, then tossing the sword in the bottom of a lava lake so no one can get it. Bada Bing bada boom, you've taken over the world. It doesn't quite explain why he doesn't tell trustworthy folks like Teela or his parents, but it's at least a reason why he doesn't throw the fact out on a whim.whim.
*** So why doesn't Adam transform into He-Man in public, and then remain transformed forever?
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* So why does Prince Adam have to keep his identity as He-Man a secret exactly? Skeletor's already gunning for everyone he knows and loves and it seems a hindrance to keep the facade going. Wouldn't just coming clean save a lot of bother?

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* So why does Prince Adam have to keep his identity as He-Man a secret exactly? Skeletor's already gunning for everyone he knows and loves and it seems a hindrance to keep the facade going. Wouldn't just coming clean save a lot of bother?bother?
** If they know that Adam is He-Man, then it would only be a few short steps to make the connection that the sword is needed for Adam to transform. Once any of the bad guys figure that out, it's as easy as just taking the sword while Adam's still Adam, then tossing the sword in the bottom of a lava lake so no one can get it. Bada Bing bada boom, you've taken over the world. It doesn't quite explain why he doesn't tell trustworthy folks like Teela or his parents, but it's at least a reason why he doesn't throw the fact out on a whim.
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** He has no mouth or tongue either, he's basically magic now

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** He has no mouth or tongue either, he's basically magic nownow
* So why does Prince Adam have to keep his identity as He-Man a secret exactly? Skeletor's already gunning for everyone he knows and loves and it seems a hindrance to keep the facade going. Wouldn't just coming clean save a lot of bother?

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* How does Skeletor have such a nasal voice when he has ''no nose''?

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** She sucker punched him with magic and knocked him out. His guard was down because she was his daughter, he doesn't want to hurt her, and she was somewhat honest when she said she had no interest in the stone.
* How does Skeletor have such a nasal voice when he has ''no nose''?nose''?
** He has no mouth or tongue either, he's basically magic now
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** Probably he needs a Trollan-made wand and a wand made in Eternia wouldn't be compatible with his magic. That said, in the last issue of the short-lived Image comic, he ''does'' get a new wand (thanks to a message left for him by the Oracle)... though since the comic was cancelled before he ever got to use it, it's hard to say how much his magic would have improved.
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* Why did the Faceless 1 basically allow Evil Lynn to take the Ramstone?

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* Why did the Faceless 1 basically allow Evil Lynn to take the Ramstone?Ramstone?
* How does Skeletor have such a nasal voice when he has ''no nose''?
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** When one of your children gets kidnapped by an evil Horde it tends to make you nervous about having more children.

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** When one of your children gets kidnapped by an evil Horde it tends to make you nervous about having more children.children.
* Why doesn't Orko just get a new wand? That way he can actually do helpful magic instead of risk magic that often backfires.
* Why did the Faceless 1 basically allow Evil Lynn to take the Ramstone?
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** [[LawOfInverseFertility Who says they haven't been trying?]]

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** [[LawOfInverseFertility Who says they haven't been trying?]]trying?]]
** When one of your children gets kidnapped by an evil Horde it tends to make you nervous about having more children.
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** Although I agree with you, and this isn't the WMG page, perhaps it was their personal decision due to the risk of having a child kidnapped and held for ransom. If they had several children roaming around that could easily become a huge problem.

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** Although I agree with you, and this isn't the WMG page, perhaps it was their personal decision due to the risk of having a child kidnapped and held for ransom. If they had several children roaming around that could easily become a huge problem.problem.
** [[LawOfInverseFertility Who says they haven't been trying?]]
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* Why does Adam not have any siblings? "Heir and a spare" is standard practice in every monarchy, and some have practiced the custom of "one for the Throne, one for the Army, one for the Law, one for the Church." Randor knows this perfectly well, and Marlena ought to know it. So where's the spare? Adora doesn't count, since she resides in another dimension.

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* Why does Adam not have any siblings? "Heir and a spare" is standard practice in every monarchy, and some have practiced the custom of "one for the Throne, one for the Army, one for the Law, one for the Church." Randor knows this perfectly well, and Marlena ought to know it. So where's the spare? Adora doesn't count, since she resides in another dimension.dimension.
** Although I agree with you, and this isn't the WMG page, perhaps it was their personal decision due to the risk of having a child kidnapped and held for ransom. If they had several children roaming around that could easily become a huge problem.
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** There was an Aesop at the end of the episode that said don't act like Zodak, it was cut from the US release... and he did get called out and apologized. Really just EasilyForgiven.

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** There was an Aesop at the end of the episode that said don't act like Zodak, it was cut from the US release... and he did get called out and apologized. Really just EasilyForgiven.EasilyForgiven.
* Why does Adam not have any siblings? "Heir and a spare" is standard practice in every monarchy, and some have practiced the custom of "one for the Throne, one for the Army, one for the Law, one for the Church." Randor knows this perfectly well, and Marlena ought to know it. So where's the spare? Adora doesn't count, since she resides in another dimension.

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*** It does seem to be a common mistake for Orko; he wants to help, gets overenthusiastic, and starts using spells without so much as a "look, I'm going to try levitating this statue to make the job easier on you!" Which causes everyone else to panic and causes disaster. It makes sense when you think of how Orko was "Orko the Great" on Trolla and probably used to help people out like this all the time -- and in Trolla, where everyone knows magic, this wouldn't be viewed as any different than, say, He-Man stopping by and helping to physically lift something heavy. Orko has become so used to Eternia that it seems he sometimes forgets that he isn't on Trolla, and that the general reaction to sudden magic is a little less accepting.

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*** It does seem to be a common mistake for Orko; he wants to help, gets overenthusiastic, and starts using spells without so much as a "look, I'm going to try levitating this statue to make the job easier on you!" Which causes everyone else to panic and causes disaster. It makes sense when you think of how Orko was "Orko the Great" on Trolla and probably used to help people out like this all the time -- and in Trolla, where everyone knows magic, this wouldn't be viewed as any different than, say, He-Man stopping by and helping to physically lift something heavy. Orko has become so used to Eternia that it seems he sometimes forgets that he isn't on Trolla, and that the general reaction to sudden magic is a little less accepting. accepting.
*** Probably, Man at arms is kind of a jerk at times, and has gotten so comfortable and used to being in charge that he just barks out any disapproval before thinking. It's just another example of authority going to someone's head and bloating their ego. However it's also fair to say that given Orko's track record for screwing things up, Man at arms was just acting on damage control instinct. Still, not quite fair for poor Orko.
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* In regards to the new series: Is it just me or did Eternia accept Randor's appointment as king ''way'' too easily? I mean, sure Randor is a nice guy and all but they pretty much only have his team to confirm his appointment as king. The people are fine with going from council-run to a monarchy?
** They may not know he was appointed by the Elders, but since the Council wasn't there anymore, the better choice was the man who led the troops to save everyone from Keldor's rule.
** Well it was a monarchy before the Elders and the people trust their wisdom.
* The BrokenAesop in the 2002 episode "The Courage of Adam". Here when Adam tries to prove he can be useful as well he's captured almost immediately which implies that Adam is useless as Adam and really needs his alter ego form to be of any use. I mean shouldn't He-Man be a ''last resort''. While the episodes ''point'' was He-Man will always be needed, it shows it very poorly.
** Did you miss the prevous episodes where we learned that Adam has spent his life goofing off, ignoring the potential return of the Evil Warriors, and not taking his combat training seriously? The rest of the team are warriors from the last time Keldor tried to take over and Teela, who has taken her training damn seriously, and even they get hit pretty hard anytime He-man isn't around, and even sometimes when he is. It wasn't a Be Yourself episode, it was an Accept Your Responsibilities And Live With The Consequences. Adam has nobody but himself to blame for his incompetence.
** Maybe but this is a repeat of a similar event in the original series where he was trying to prove he can be of use and can be a hero when he tries to save his father as himself, not as He-Man. In this version he's doesn't have the incompetence excuse you claim because it the She-Ra SpinOff we see he ''can'' fight and Teela has been teaching him. Not to mention in the 2002 episode he can keep up with Teela in the game so it's not as though he not completely untrained. And my point was the message was poorly executed not that it wasn't clear.
*** Yes, Adam can sort of keep up with Teela while playing around. Actual combat? Totally different. Adam DOES have some skills but they are nowhere close to enough to fight the Evil Warriors. The entire point of the pilot is that He-Man is a necessity, Adam alone is not enough. And even in the old deries we see Adam was still slacking off, though it's entirely possible that finding out he had a sister determined to stay in a war zone got him to buckle down and actually train so he'd be of use. On Eternia he has a whole army backing him, so he's just the big gun.
*** Actually he showed he could fight ''before'' he found out he was looking for his sister. What makes no sense to me is the fact in the first version, other heroes have the same training he's had and ''can'' handle the Evil Warriors to a degree. you think they would make it look like he might have won. The way things were going I think the King would've put ''He-Man'' on the throne instead of his son due to his need for the disguise.
* There's an entire episode based off Teela's inability to adapt her thinking to abnormal situations and seeing things outside her rigid point of view. Considering that she's the BadassNormal of the group, thinking outside the box and adapting to abnormal situations is pretty much her entire fighting style.
* Orko gets yelled at by Man-At-Arms for knocking down the statue they were trying to put up, despite the fact that Orko was doing a perfectly good job of it until Man-At-Arms started yelling at him.
** Orko got yelled at and it broke his concentration but Man-At-Arms didn't want Orko around in the first place, even if he could help. It might not have been entirely Orko's fault but by the character's reasoning he shouldn't have even been there.
** Granted, Orko maybe shouldn't have been there, but there's a good chance that it might not have been such a disaster if Man-At Arms had not physically grabbed Orko by the hands, disrupting the spell.
** Orko's mistake was that he didn't ''tell'' anyone what he was trying to do before he did it. Granted, it does seem like he was doing it to prove to Man-At-Arms that he ''could'' be useful. so it's not unlikely he thought "When Man-At-Arms sees me doing this, he'll realize that I'm capable of helping out!" What he hadn't counted on was Man-At-Arms jumping to conclusions, assuming that Orko was going to cause a big disaster, and then made things ten times worse by interrupting the spell. Man-At-Arms definitely should have known better, and ''really'' should have taken his share of the blame, but Orko (whose self-esteem really isn't very good) immediately took all the blame on himself and didn't even think of blaming Man-At-Arms.
*** It does seem to be a common mistake for Orko; he wants to help, gets overenthusiastic, and starts using spells without so much as a "look, I'm going to try levitating this statue to make the job easier on you!" Which causes everyone else to panic and causes disaster. It makes sense when you think of how Orko was "Orko the Great" on Trolla and probably used to help people out like this all the time -- and in Trolla, where everyone knows magic, this wouldn't be viewed as any different than, say, He-Man stopping by and helping to physically lift something heavy. Orko has become so used to Eternia that it seems he sometimes forgets that he isn't on Trolla, and that the general reaction to sudden magic is a little less accepting.
* In the new series Zodak pretty much admitted that he allowed himself to be beaten so that King Hiss would be freed and Zodak would have the chance to finish him off once and for all. This results in massive damage to several kingdoms, several people being eaten alive by King Hiss, and the slow death of the Sorceress by King Hiss' venom (and yes, that's where the story was going, they admit it on the commentary) and there are no consequences and nobody calls him on it.
** There was an Aesop at the end of the episode that said don't act like Zodak, it was cut from the US release... and he did get called out and apologized. Really just EasilyForgiven.

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