History Headscratchers / FireEmblemAwakening

*** So you're saying Lissa could potentially have a tramp-stamp? [[FetishFuel Hot]].

* Also, the name for Rightful King is actually a translation error. In Japanese the skill is Royal Weapon, which is gender neutral. Just throwing that out there.

** So then they're really just from an alternate dimension? Keep in mind thos flash backs were the memories of the Grima from where Lucina came from, they probably ended up interfering and directing your dimension to a future similar to theirs even if Chrom ''had'' originally died, their interference changed all of that.

** Also. an Avatar is a manifestation of a god in the physical plane, like [[spoiler:what your Avatar was supposed to be the evil dragon god.]]

* Anyone else find it rather odd that Say'ri has so little support options for where she joins in the game? Especially since the second generation does? I'm not say, wondering why she wasn't the mother of a second generation character sans Morgan ([[spoiler:since I think she actually ''died'' in the BadFuture the children came from, meaning she couldn't have had any kids to begin with.]]) She joins only a short while after Chereche, so how come her only support options are with the Avatar, Morgan, and Tiki?

*** I personally think it might be A, but B could be a good justification in-universe. Her being able to support with Tiki makes sense (after all, it was Say'ri who told Chrom's army to go ''look'' for her in the first place), but still, she probably would have a few things to say to Chereche given that she was from Valm more recently. (Virion had moved over to Ylisse over two years ago)

** To spite Naga. As long as there is ''anyone'' alive... Naga can still guide them and forge a sword out of her fang to give to someone, giving humanity hope for a future.

*** Priam could very well be the direct descendant of Ike. Aether is a ''Vanguard'' skill as of Radiant Dawn as it is no longer accessible to Heroes, and since third-tier classes are unavailable in Awakening, it's almost a no-brainer that Priam doesn't have Aether; he's not a '''third-tier''' class, only a second-tier one. If third-tier classes were accessible in Awakening, Priam would be a Vanguard instead of a Hero and have Aether unquestionably. The only reason he does not have it in Awakening is because Chrom is the only one who learns it in that game despite not being a Vanguard for some really odd reason, and only daughters of Chrom can inherit it (most likely to ensure that [[spoiler:[[KidFromTheFuture Lucina]]]] will always inherit it). That brings up two more questions: ''how the hell does Chrom even get Aether in the first place'' and '''''why''' the hell do only his daughters get it''? No other Lord in the series other than Ike in Path of Radiance gets the skill. Ike started out as a Ranger, a class exclusive to him that is basically a special Mercenary class; when he promotes to Lord, he's essentially a special Hero (which can learn the skill), and Greil himself has it since he's a Hero. Even though the only Mercenary related class users were male (and related no less), that does not mean that Aether is a gender exclusive class. Theoretically, anyone who becomes a Hero ([=PoR=]) or Vanguard should have access to the skill and pass it on to their kids if they desire so. The only skills that can not be inherited in Awakening were DLC Skills or skills from DLC classes (sons could inherit female exclusive skills such as Demoiselle and daughters could inherit male exclusive skills such as Counter). Chrom's inheritance system and by extension his descendants' are the only unique ones, as male descendants will always inherit Rightful King and female descendants will always inherit Aether. Aether should be completely inaccessible to Chrom and his descendants based on class-availability. His (and [[spoiler:Lucina]]'s) Lord and Great Lord classes are not related to the Mercenary-related classes at all, but he gets the skill anyways (probably for RuleOfCool as Aether is a very BadAss skill). Someone care to explain why this is so?

** [[spoiler:Possibly the same way Naga killed Grima, by using her own power against her. There are three artifacts in the setting either created from Naga's body or infused with her essence; the Fire Emblem, the Falchion and the [[FireEmblemJugdral Book of Naga]]. The latter two can only be used by someone with the blood of Naga, which requires either a secret/distant relative of Chrom or a trip to Jugdral, but isn't completely out of the question. The Fire Emblem can be used by everyone, but [[ShieldBash beating Naga to death with a shield]] might be a little troublesome.]]

** Are you familiar with the continuity of FireEmblemJugdral? This whole thing works pretty much exactly like the Holy Blood system, with the Avatar being a non-evil Julius of sorts. To elaborate, Manakete can drop parts of their essence into other things. If they put it in items, they become artifacts, like Tyrfing or Falchion. They can also use this to create blood pacts with humans, giving them Holy Blood that they can pass on to their descendents and that allows them to channel these artifacts to their full power. By doing this, they obtain a limited connection with the person or object in question. Forseti could communicate with Lewyn through his spell tome, and even possessed him when he died. Of Julius, what we know is that he was a fairly normal child who could occasionally have strange moments of sadism until he took up the tome of Loptyr and became his true reincarnation. So he was himself, but also a small bit of Loptyr until then. The Avatar has no such connection to Grima via objects, only through blood. Presumably, Validar or one of his ancestors made a blood pact with Grima until they could breed a perfect vessel with enough Holy Blood to truly channel him (the stronger the Holy Blood, the stronger the connection). The point is that technically, the Avatar was only a small fragment of Grima. This is why they could be controlled by him to some extent, but not truly overcome unless they gave in and became the vessel, like the Hierophant. That said, this all becomes horribly headache-inducing once we favor in the whole time travel elements.

** "The Future" is treated like an alternate timeline in the first place, so that explains the not RetGone thing. As for Chrom and the assassins, it's obvious that Chrom would have lived through it, or else how would Grima!Robin have all those flashbacks involving him? I'm assuming Luci just said she was "saving Chrom's life" for dramatic effect or something. Otherwise, not only would she not have been born, the whole original timeline couldn't have happened the way it did.

** A [[http://serenesforest.net/media/fe13comic/08-marth.jpg man]][[http://serenesforest.net/media/fe13comic/09-marth.jpg ga]] included in Nintendo Dream in Japan confirms that Marth first came to Ragna Ferox looking for one of the Fire Emblem jewels, but became Basilio's champion, hoping to test himself against Chrom.

*** Adding on to the idea [[spoiler:of Grima being at fault, had he not tried to merge with the Present day Avatar, he likely wouldn't have lost all of his memories, and thus the bonds he forged with Chrom and the others wouldn't have been so deep for him to allow him to overcome attempts at possession or the will to sacrifice himself.]]

** This outfit also begs the question; why is Robin wearing said outfit in the first place, if his mother ran away from the Grimleal around the time he was born?

*** Validar and Grima always read to me like [[HPLovecraft Abdul Alhazred and Cthulhu/Yog-Sothoth]]. [[ThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow We simply cannot understand the motives of a being such as Grima]] on account of it being an EldritchAbomination. Also, if Validar was raised by the Grimleal as part of their SuperBreedingProgram, that implies he would have undergone years of MindRape to brainwash him into being a faithful servant of Grima's.

* While I might ship Chrom/Robin, I have to ask; Why can't Chrom's other wives have more trust in him when they meet Lucina? Espeically since he's never given them any reason to doubt? Am I really supposed to believe [[ChildhoodFriend Sully]] doesn't know him well enough to know that's not his character? Or that Maribelle, who becomes an magistrate in most of her endings, wouldn't ''AT LEAST'' wait and listen to their side of the story first? Or that Sumia, who not only resuced, but "slapped" Chrom to get his head out of his ass, would see him with another woman once and decide it's over? While Olivia's the only one who would have trust issues with her marraige due to FourthDateMarriage but she becomes a fucking doormat. "She's beautiful and you're happiness should come first." WHAT?! So she'll defend a dog from Henry, but she's not even going to fight for her baby? But Robin? She's the only one who even says "I trust you, I just want to know what's going on." Yeah, she's not ''happy'' but she's the only one who's remotely calm and rational. Why can't the others be like that too? There's RuleOfFunny and then there's CharacterDerailment.

* While I might ship Chrom/Robin, I have to ask; Why can't Chrom's other wives have more trust in him when they meet Lucina? Am I really supposed to believe [[ChildhoodFriend Sully]] doesn't know him well enough to know that's not his character? Or that Maribelle, who becomes an magistrate in most of her endings, wouldn't 'AT LEAST' wait and listen to their side of the story first? Or that Sumia, who not only resuced, but "slapped" Chrom to get his head out of his ass would see him with another woman once and decide it's over? While Olivia's the only one who would have trust issues with her marraige due to FourthDateMarraige she becomes a fucking doormat. "She's beautiful and you're happiness should come first." WHAT?! So she'll defend a dog from Henry, but she's not even going to fight for her baby?

*** Incorrect correction. In Chapter 14, Lissa asks Lucina what would've happened if she didn't come to save Chrom, and Lucina answers: "He would have been gravely wounded. And those wounds would have played a part in the tragedies to come."
So he wouldn't have been killed, just gravely injured, possibly preventing him from saving Emmeryn, among other "tragedies to come".