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*** Greil, Ike's father, gets Aether as well (this takes some messing around in PoR to see but still) and "could have been a special case" doesn't explain away why [[spoiler:Priam, a first gen character]] couldn't just be given the skill if he in fact is a direct descendant of the first main character who had Aether. It would be the most definite link between the two, and heck, how was [[spoiler:Chrom able to learn it if only women seem to get it in Awakening, as you seem to be saying?]] Awakening also mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And [[spoiler:Priam]] is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others who passed down his style. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.

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*** Greil, Ike's father, gets Aether as well (this takes some messing around in PoR to see but still) and "could have been a special case" doesn't explain away why [[spoiler:Priam, a first gen character]] couldn't just be given the skill if he in fact is a direct descendant of the first main character who had Aether. It would be the most definite link between the two, and heck, how was [[spoiler:Chrom able to learn it if only women seem to get it in Awakening, as you seem to be saying?]] Aether being lost in a generation might be understandable in a hypothetical gameplay sense, but since the character is introduced as a first generation character, it makes little sense as far as story goes (a unique and powerful skill being replaced with a common and less impressive one). And Aether is also treated in-game as a skill that will always be passed down to certain people (even if a certain someone can't use it yet, or if it isn't his fifth skill). Sol and Luna are obvious references to Aether, and yet he just doesn't get Aether? Awakening also mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And [[spoiler:Priam]] is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris [[spoiler:Priam]] does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others who passed down his style. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.

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**** Wrong. Morgan can very well inherit Aether. The child characters (with the exception of Lucina, I'd presume) inherit the last skill each of their parents equipped, so your Morgan only inherited Rightful King because it was the last skill your Chrom equipped before taking the Morgan Paralogue.

So, skill meddling aside, a hypothetical "grandchild" character would likely not inherit a skill from his grandparent, but rather another skill his parent acquired and equipped afterwards. So it's perfectly reasonable for Priam to lack Aether, even though he's from Ike's bloodline.

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**** Wrong. Morgan can very well inherit Aether. The child characters (with the exception of Lucina, I'd presume) inherit the last skill each of their parents equipped, so your Morgan only inherited Rightful King because it was the last skill your Chrom equipped before taking the Morgan Paralogue.

Paralogue. So, skill meddling aside, a hypothetical "grandchild" character would likely not inherit a skill from his grandparent, but rather another skill his parent acquired and equipped afterwards. So it's perfectly reasonable for Priam to lack Aether, even though he's from Ike's bloodline.
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**** Wrong. Morgan can very well inherit Aether. The child characters (with the exception of Lucina, I'd presume) inherit the last skill each of their parents equipped, so your Morgan only inherited Rightful King because it was the last skill your Chrom equipped before taking the Morgan Paralogue.

So, skill meddling aside, a hypothetical "grandchild" character would likely not inherit a skill from his grandparent, but rather another skill his parent acquired and equipped afterwards. So it's perfectly reasonable for Priam to lack Aether, even though he's from Ike's bloodline.
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*** Greil, Ike's father, had Aether as well, and "could have been a special case" doesn't explain away why he couldn't just be given the skill if he in fact is a direct descendant of the first main character who had Aether. Awakening also mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And [[spoiler:Priam]] is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others who passed down his style. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.

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*** Greil, Ike's father, had gets Aether as well, well (this takes some messing around in PoR to see but still) and "could have been a special case" doesn't explain away why he [[spoiler:Priam, a first gen character]] couldn't just be given the skill if he in fact is a direct descendant of the first main character who had Aether. It would be the most definite link between the two, and heck, how was [[spoiler:Chrom able to learn it if only women seem to get it in Awakening, as you seem to be saying?]] Awakening also mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And [[spoiler:Priam]] is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others who passed down his style. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.
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*** Greil, Ike's father, had Aether as well. And Awakening mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And Priam is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.

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*** Greil, Ike's father, had Aether as well. And well, and "could have been a special case" doesn't explain away why he couldn't just be given the skill if he in fact is a direct descendant of the first main character who had Aether. Awakening also mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And Priam [[spoiler:Priam]] is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others.others who passed down his style. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.

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**** Actually, when you look at [[spoiler: Lucina, Chrom's child]] she has inherited Aether, yet Chrom's possible son (when paired with MU) Morgan, does NOT inherit Aether, getting Rightful King instead. In Awakening, Aether can only be inherited by a daughter. Ike could have simply been a special case as he perfected/invented Aether to begin with. Plus, it makes sense that Ike is the ancester, given [[spoiler: Priam's]] location NOT being in Telius, where Mist remained after Radiant Dawn, unlike a certain intrepid Hero of Legend. More importantly is the fact that being related to Ike isn't worth much if you don't learn his fighting style, something Mist has no way of passing down.

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**** *** Actually, when you look at [[spoiler: Lucina, Chrom's child]] she has inherited Aether, yet Chrom's possible son (when paired with MU) Morgan, does NOT inherit Aether, getting Rightful King instead. In Awakening, Aether can only be inherited by a daughter. Ike could have simply been a special case as he perfected/invented Aether to begin with. Plus, it makes sense that Ike is the ancester, ancestor, given [[spoiler: Priam's]] location NOT being in Telius, where Mist remained after Radiant Dawn, unlike a certain intrepid Hero of Legend. More importantly is the fact that being related to Ike isn't worth much if you don't learn his fighting style, something Mist has no way of passing down.down.
*** Greil, Ike's father, had Aether as well. And Awakening mentions people meeting the laguz and such, which gives the impression that travelling between the two worlds is not exclusive to Ike. And Priam is mentioned to be a world traveller. Ike is famous in both worlds and has had sparring partners in the games, so if in fact Paris does fight just like Ike, it's not like Ike couldn't have trained others. (It does give a "descendant in the disciple sense" theory an angle, as well.) It's too vague to call either way for certain.
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* If, in the BadFuture, [[spoiler: Chrom was supposed to die in that particular battle against Validar, then how was his second child born? Unless his wife was already pregnant with the second kid at that point in the story,]] but then you'd think they'd mention it.

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* If, in the BadFuture, [[spoiler: Chrom was supposed to die in that particular battle against Validar, then how was his second child born? Unless his wife was already pregnant with the second kid at that point in the story,]] but then you'd think they'd mention it.it.
** It's quite possible that particular battle happened much later in the timeline. Remember, [[spoiler:Lucina's intervention changed, and quite possibly accelerated, events.]]
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** Also, there's the possibility that not all of them came from the same time period or even the same universe.

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** Also, there's the possibility that not all of them came from the same time period or even the same universe.universe.
* If, in the BadFuture, [[spoiler: Chrom was supposed to die in that particular battle against Validar, then how was his second child born? Unless his wife was already pregnant with the second kid at that point in the story,]] but then you'd think they'd mention it.
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** TimeyWimeyBall is in full effect - Whereas Lucina went back only two years before the invasion by Valm, Laurent went back five due to unspecified complications. There's no telling how far back the others went, nor what their physical age was before the journey anyway. It gets kinda confusing at this point.

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** TimeyWimeyBall is in full effect - Whereas Lucina went back only two years before the invasion by Valm, Laurent went back five due to unspecified complications. There's no telling how far back the others went, nor what their physical age was before the journey anyway. It gets kinda confusing at this point.point.
** Also, there's the possibility that not all of them came from the same time period or even the same universe.
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**** Actually, when you look at [[spoiler: Lucina, Chrom's child]] she has inherited Aether, yet Chrom's possible son (when paired with MU) Morgan, does NOT inherit Aether, getting Rightful King instead. In Awakening, Aether can only be inherited by a daughter. Ike could have simply been a special case as he perfected/invented Aether to begin with. Plus, it makes sense that Ike is the ancester, given [[spoiler: Priam's]] location NOT being in Telius, where Mist remained after Radiant Dawn, unlike a certain intrepid Hero of Legend...

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**** Actually, when you look at [[spoiler: Lucina, Chrom's child]] she has inherited Aether, yet Chrom's possible son (when paired with MU) Morgan, does NOT inherit Aether, getting Rightful King instead. In Awakening, Aether can only be inherited by a daughter. Ike could have simply been a special case as he perfected/invented Aether to begin with. Plus, it makes sense that Ike is the ancester, given [[spoiler: Priam's]] location NOT being in Telius, where Mist remained after Radiant Dawn, unlike a certain intrepid Hero of Legend...Legend. More importantly is the fact that being related to Ike isn't worth much if you don't learn his fighting style, something Mist has no way of passing down.
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****Actually, when you look at [[spoiler: Lucina, Chrom's child]] she has inherited Aether, yet Chrom's possible son (when paired with MU) Morgan, does NOT inherit Aether, getting Rightful King instead. In Awakening, Aether can only be inherited by a daughter. Ike could have simply been a special case as he perfected/invented Aether to begin with. Plus, it makes sense that Ike is the ancester, given [[spoiler: Priam's]] location NOT being in Telius, where Mist remained after Radiant Dawn, unlike a certain intrepid Hero of Legend...
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** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: [[CessationOfExistence NOTHING]].

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** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: [[CessationOfExistence NOTHING]].
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* Speaking of Grima, is he Medeus with his name changed over the years or some other dragon of the Earth Tribe? The wording is a bit too vague for me.
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* Actually, serious question...how old ''are'' the Children from the future? And do they ever state how old they are in gameplay? I'm sort of confused about their age. All I know for certain is that Lucina's the eldest and that Brady is [[YoungerThanTheyLook much younger than he looks]], as revealed by his "C" support with Lucina. Likewise, Laurent looks to be the oldest, but I hear he says he went back further in time than the others.

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* Actually, serious question...how old ''are'' the Children from the future? And do they ever state how old they are in gameplay? I'm sort of confused about their age. All I know for certain is that Lucina's the eldest and that Brady is [[YoungerThanTheyLook much younger than he looks]], as revealed by his "C" support with Lucina. Likewise, Laurent looks to be the oldest, but I hear he says he went back further in time than the others.others.
** TimeyWimeyBall is in full effect - Whereas Lucina went back only two years before the invasion by Valm, Laurent went back five due to unspecified complications. There's no telling how far back the others went, nor what their physical age was before the journey anyway. It gets kinda confusing at this point.
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*** This theory that he is a descendant through Ike's sister is looking more and more likely to me, also given his vague wording.

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*** This theory that he is a descendant through Ike's sister is looking more and more likely to me, also given his vague wording.wording.
* Actually, serious question...how old ''are'' the Children from the future? And do they ever state how old they are in gameplay? I'm sort of confused about their age. All I know for certain is that Lucina's the eldest and that Brady is [[YoungerThanTheyLook much younger than he looks]], as revealed by his "C" support with Lucina. Likewise, Laurent looks to be the oldest, but I hear he says he went back further in time than the others.
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* So [[spoiler:Parion]] claims to be a descendant in some fashion of [[spoiler:Ike, but he does not have Aether. In Awakening, Ike still has it despite not being the same class as Chrom or Lucina. And Aether is one of the inherited skills, just like how Ike had it passed down from his father.]] So... why wouldn't he have it?

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* So [[spoiler:Parion]] [[spoiler:Priam]] claims to be a descendant in some fashion of [[spoiler:Ike, but he does not have Aether. In Awakening, Ike still has it despite not being the same class as Chrom or Lucina. And Aether is one of the inherited skills, just like how Ike had it passed down from his father.]] So... why wouldn't he have it?
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** [[FridgeBrilliance He's a descendant of Ike...but who says that a descendant of his sister couldn't inherit Ragnell, but not Aether?]]

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** [[FridgeBrilliance He's a descendant of Ike...but who says that a descendant of his sister couldn't inherit Ragnell, but not Aether?]]Aether?]]
*** This theory that he is a descendant through Ike's sister is looking more and more likely to me, also given his vague wording.
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** You can't really apply logic to the actions of fanatical cultists...
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* So [[spoiler:Parion]] claims to be a descendant in some fashion of [[spoiler:Ike, but he does not have Aether. In Awakening, Ike still has it despite not being the same class as Chrom or Lucina. And Aether is one of the inherited skills, just like how Ike had it passed down from his father.]] So... why wouldn't he have it?

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* So [[spoiler:Parion]] claims to be a descendant in some fashion of [[spoiler:Ike, but he does not have Aether. In Awakening, Ike still has it despite not being the same class as Chrom or Lucina. And Aether is one of the inherited skills, just like how Ike had it passed down from his father.]] So... why wouldn't he have it?it?
** [[FridgeBrilliance He's a descendant of Ike...but who says that a descendant of his sister couldn't inherit Ragnell, but not Aether?]]
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** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: [[CessationOfExistence NOTHING]].

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** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: [[CessationOfExistence NOTHING]].NOTHING]].
* So [[spoiler:Parion]] claims to be a descendant in some fashion of [[spoiler:Ike, but he does not have Aether. In Awakening, Ike still has it despite not being the same class as Chrom or Lucina. And Aether is one of the inherited skills, just like how Ike had it passed down from his father.]] So... why wouldn't he have it?
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** Also an Avatar is a manifestation of a god in the physical plane, like what your Avatar was supposed to be the evil dragon god.
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** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: NOTHING.

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** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: NOTHING.[[CessationOfExistence NOTHING]].
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* So Grima is a evil, super-powerful Dragon that will basically kill almost everybody in Ylisse and Valm, alongside the Risen. So, why is Validar so eager to do all of this when it could bring his death? What's in it for him and the Grimleal?

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* So Grima is a evil, super-powerful Dragon that will basically kill almost everybody in Ylisse and Valm, alongside the Risen. So, why is Validar so eager to do all of this when it could bring his death? What's in it for him and the Grimleal?Grimleal?
** The same that was in it for Sephiran, and the same that was in it for [[FinalFantasyV Neo Exdeath]]: NOTHING.
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** It's less Engrishy for one, and that's precisely what it's supposed to be, an avatar for the player.

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** It's less Engrishy for one, and that's precisely what it's supposed to be, an avatar for the player.player.
* So Grima is a evil, super-powerful Dragon that will basically kill almost everybody in Ylisse and Valm, alongside the Risen. So, why is Validar so eager to do all of this when it could bring his death? What's in it for him and the Grimleal?
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*** It looked like they asked why they were hush-hush about it back prior to the months leading up to January. IT seemed to be mostly "And oh yeah, we're also localizing ''FireEmblemAwakening too." after E3. I can understand not having a trailer, but it seemed to mostly be thrown on as an afterthought.

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*** It looked like they asked why they were hush-hush about it back prior to the months leading up to January. IT seemed to be mostly "And oh yeah, we're also localizing ''FireEmblemAwakening ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening too." after E3. I can understand not having a trailer, but it seemed to mostly be thrown on as an afterthought.
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* Are they seriously renaming My Unit to Avatar? IMO, that's the most unnecessary DubNameChange I've ever seen.

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* Are they seriously renaming My Unit to Avatar? IMO, that's the most unnecessary DubNameChange I've ever seen.seen.
** It's less Engrishy for one, and that's precisely what it's supposed to be, an avatar for the player.

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** It takes them awhile but its in full swing, in the last month. There are internet ads, constant Facebook posts, It's the most advertised Fire Emblem in North America that I've ever seen
*** It looked like they asked why they were hush-hush about it back prior to the months leading up to January. IT seemed to be mostly "And oh yeah, we're also localizing ''FireEmblemAwakening too." after E3. I can understand not having a trailer, but it seemed to mostly be thrown on as an afterthought.

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** It takes them awhile but its in full swing, in the last month. There are internet ads, constant Facebook posts, It's the most advertised Fire Emblem in North America that I've ever seen
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*** It looked like they asked why they were hush-hush about it back prior to the months leading up to January. IT seemed to be mostly "And oh yeah, we're also localizing ''FireEmblemAwakening too." after E3. I can understand not having a trailer, but it seemed to mostly be thrown on as an afterthought.afterthought.
** Fire Emblem is pretty obscure in the West, that's why. Think about it: if Kid Icarus: Uprising didn't have an EarlyBirdCameo in Brawl, would you have heard of its first game?
*Are they seriously renaming My Unit to Avatar? IMO, that's the most unnecessary DubNameChange I've ever seen.
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** It takes them awhile but its in full swing, in the last month. There are internet ads, constant Facebook posts, It's the most advertised Fire Emblem in North America that I've ever seen

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** It takes them awhile but its in full swing, in the last month. There are internet ads, constant Facebook posts, It's the most advertised Fire Emblem in North America that I've ever seenseen
*** It looked like they asked why they were hush-hush about it back prior to the months leading up to January. IT seemed to be mostly "And oh yeah, we're also localizing ''FireEmblemAwakening too." after E3. I can understand not having a trailer, but it seemed to mostly be thrown on as an afterthought.
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* So anyways, this could just be because I'm not looking in the right places, but how come Nintendo's so hush hush about this game? Do they just want to avoid hyping people out, or were the unsure about when it would be finished?

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* So anyways, this could just be because I'm not looking in the right places, but how come Nintendo's so hush hush about this game? Do they just want to avoid hyping people out, or were the unsure about when it would be finished?finished?
** It takes them awhile but its in full swing, in the last month. There are internet ads, constant Facebook posts, It's the most advertised Fire Emblem in North America that I've ever seen
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* So anyways, this could just be because I'm not looking in the right places, but how come Nintendo's so hush hush about this game? Do they just want to avoid hyping people out, or were the unsure about when it would be finished?

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