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** I don't think it's as bad as all that. I mean, was Amy really being serious about being upset that Rory wanted a threesome with his wife and...his wife a few minutes into the future? I doubt it. And Amy didn't fly off the deep end about the Siren either. She didn't yell at him or make him sleep on the couch; she just reminded him of what he said since he didn't remember. Since the Siren was very pretty, Amy (even realizing he's under her influence) was just a little insecure that he might have really thought she was prettier than Amy was. And even ''that's'' not overly narcissistic of Amy and her needing to be the most gorgeous creature ever because it's a perfectly natural response to your SO telling you that someone is more attractive than you. You may think or know that it's true but it doesn't make it hurt less. I just think it was smart of Amy to address the issue with Rory instead of letting it fester and get blown out of proprtion later. She reminded him of what he said and he did what he could to allay her insecurities.

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** I don't think it's as bad as all that. I mean, was Amy really being serious about being upset that Rory wanted a threesome with his wife and...his wife a few minutes into the future? I doubt it. And Amy didn't fly off the deep end about the Siren either. She didn't yell at him or make him sleep on the couch; she just reminded him of what he said since he didn't remember. Since the Siren was very pretty, Amy (even realizing he's under her influence) was just a little insecure that he might have really thought she was prettier than Amy was. And even ''that's'' not overly narcissistic of Amy and her needing to be the most gorgeous creature ever because it's a perfectly natural response to your SO telling you that someone is more attractive than you. You may think or know that it's true but it doesn't make it hurt less. I just think it was smart of Amy to address the issue with Rory instead of letting it fester and get blown out of proprtion proportion later. She reminded him of what he said and he did what he could to allay her insecurities.
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* Pretty minor one, but when The Doctor says that the the alien crew were killed by human bacteria, he says that the bacteria came from 'our planet'. Those are his exact words. Now, I know he's fond of the little blue marble, the third rock from the sun, good old Terra Firma, and he may want to adopt/be adopted by it since his ''own'' planet... ahem... went missing, but come on - the papers haven't even been signed, Doctor! This isn't your planet! Considering what happened to his last planet, I'm not sure I want him thinking of this one as his.

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* Pretty minor one, but when The Doctor says that the the alien crew were killed by human bacteria, he says that the bacteria came from 'our planet'. Those are his exact words. Now, I know he's fond of the little blue marble, the third rock from the sun, good old Terra Firma, and he may want to adopt/be adopted by it since his ''own'' planet... ahem... went missing, but come on - the papers haven't even been signed, Doctor! This isn't your planet! Considering what happened to his last planet, I'm not sure I want him thinking of this one as his.
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** When the show has time and time travel as one of the themes, and "timey-wimey" is used to explain things, saying "It simply wasn’t time yet", is all the answer one needs.
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** That's not a proper answer, though. Why wasn't it time yet?

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* Probably a really pedantic Headscratcher but did the flesh copy the sonic screwdriver as well? There didn't seem to be a shortage of them near the end of the episode. How many does the Doctor have? (Eleven has already busted one in Christmas carol and just allowed another to be lost with Ganger!Doctor in the explosion).

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* Probably a really pedantic Headscratcher but did the flesh copy the sonic screwdriver as well? There didn't seem to be a shortage of them near the end of the episode. How many does the Doctor have? (Eleven has already busted one in "A Christmas carol Carol" and just allowed another to be lost with Ganger!Doctor in the explosion).



** If it can copy clothes, why not the sonic screwdriver?



** Keeping Amy's Ganger around would mean the real Amy would be unconscious and unable to help herself in anyway. Amy's Ganger was not thinking and living, it was a shell for her mind to be in. True they could have kept Amy there to help rescue herself but the link needed to be broken so the Doctor could be at his most effective in hunting her. Can't have the enemy watching in.

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** Keeping Amy's Ganger around would mean the real Amy would be unconscious and unable to help herself in anyway.any way. Amy's Ganger was not thinking and living, it was a shell for her mind to be in. True they could have kept Amy there to help rescue herself but the link needed to be broken so the Doctor could be at his most effective in hunting her. Can't have the enemy watching in.
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*** He didn't shoot Amy with a disintegrator, he disconnected her Flesh avatar from the signal that was projecting Amy into it. As [[WordOfGod the writer said]], if the Ganger had been sentient, it would kept being Amy even after being disconnected. It's ''because'' it wasn't sentient that it dissolved when it no longer received input.[[invoked]]

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*** He didn't shoot Amy with a disintegrator, he disconnected her Flesh avatar from the signal that was projecting Amy into it. As [[WordOfGod the writer said]], if the Ganger had been sentient, it would have kept being Amy even after being disconnected. It's ''because'' it wasn't sentient that it dissolved when it no longer received input.[[invoked]]
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*** He didn't shoot Amy with a disintegrator, he disconnected her Flesh avatar from the signal that was projecting Amy into it. As the writer said, if the Ganger had been sentient, it would kept being Amy even after being disconnected. It's ''because'' it wasn't sentient that it dissolved when it no longer received input.

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*** He didn't shoot Amy with a disintegrator, he disconnected her Flesh avatar from the signal that was projecting Amy into it. As [[WordOfGod the writer said, said]], if the Ganger had been sentient, it would kept being Amy even after being disconnected. It's ''because'' it wasn't sentient that it dissolved when it no longer received input.[[invoked]]

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** The circumstances were different - the Gangers in the episode had gained sentience only after being separated during the solar storm. Before then they were, for the most part, remote-controlled fleshy suits (Ganger!Jenny went bonkers because she kept the residual memory of being burnt all those times...which I imagine would be unpleasant). Amy was somehow linked to that one and when the Doctor "glooped" her, her consciousness went straight back into her own body (notice how it switched to her "awakening" right after). They was no separate Ganger!Amy, just Amy linked and controlling a flesh suit (like the engineers had been doing for ages until that one freak occurance).

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** The circumstances were different - the Gangers in the episode had gained sentience only after being separated during the solar storm. Before then they were, for the most part, remote-controlled fleshy suits (Ganger!Jenny went bonkers because she kept the residual memory of being burnt all those times...which I imagine would be unpleasant). Amy was somehow linked to that one and when the Doctor "glooped" her, her consciousness went straight back into her own body (notice how it switched to her "awakening" right after). They There was no separate Ganger!Amy, just Amy linked and controlling a flesh suit (like the engineers had been doing for ages until that one freak occurance).


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**** He didn't shoot Amy with a disintegrator, he disconnected her Flesh avatar from the signal that was projecting Amy into it. As the writer said, if the Ganger had been sentient, it would kept being Amy even after being disconnected. It's ''because'' it wasn't sentient that it dissolved when it no longer received input.
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*** Where is it stated that the Papal Mainframe is even Christian, let alone Catholic? We are told nothing about their beliefs. For all we know they could be a "church" in the same way that Scientology is a "church".

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*** Hate to say it, because it's a total cliche now, but I think TimeyWimeyBall comes into play here. Old!Kazran is indeed still a miserable prick after the Doctor interferes in his life -- until the Doctor brings Young!Kazran to the future to see exactly what a miserable prick Old!Kazran has become; from that point, so my own interpretation of the scene goes, Young!Kazran resolves to never become said miserable old prick come what may, resulting in Old!Kazran now having a generally slightly sunnier disposition (hence his agreeing to help the Doctor and his willingness to allow Abigail out of the pod and spend the last day of her life with him, etc). This, however (I think, anyway -- and I may be getting into Wild Mass Guessing a bit her, bit seems to fit with how the episode plays out) creates a ''third'' timeline, and whereas in the previous two timelines Teenage!Kazran's increasing miserable prickishness was one of the things that convinced his father to allow him access to the sky-controlling machine thing, in the third timeline Teenage!Kazran's slightly sunnier disposition would probably put him at further odds with his father, who wouldn't allow him access to the machine on those basis. It seems to me that it's just taken a bit longer for Old!Kazran's memories to catch up to this new timeline, hence why he thinks he can still control the machine where in fact he can't.

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*** Hate to say it, because it's a total cliche now, but I think TimeyWimeyBall comes into play here. Old!Kazran is indeed still a miserable prick after the Doctor interferes in his life -- until the Doctor brings Young!Kazran to the future to see exactly what a miserable prick Old!Kazran has become; from that point, so my own interpretation of the scene goes, Young!Kazran resolves to never become said miserable old prick come what may, resulting in Old!Kazran now having a generally slightly sunnier disposition (hence his agreeing to help the Doctor and his willingness to allow Abigail out of the pod and spend the last day of her life with him, etc). This, however (I think, anyway -- and I may be getting into Wild Mass Guessing a bit her, here, bit seems to fit with how the episode plays out) creates a ''third'' timeline, and whereas in the previous two timelines Teenage!Kazran's increasing miserable prickishness was one of the things that convinced his father to allow him access to the sky-controlling machine thing, in the third timeline Teenage!Kazran's slightly sunnier disposition would probably put him at further odds with his father, who wouldn't allow him access to the machine on those basis. It seems to me that it's just taken a bit longer for Old!Kazran's memories to catch up to this new timeline, hence why he thinks he can still control the machine where in fact he can't.



* The Doctor violates numerous Laws of Time with no apparent ill-effect. As mentioned above, he allows two versions of the same person from different points in time to meet and nearly touch, with narry a Reaper showing up as in ''Fathers Day''. But the real kicker is that, as in ''The Waters of Mars'', The Doctor alters several peoples established personal timelines and tries to significantly change history. Granting that The Doctor is working to save a lot more lives here than then (4000+ vs. 1) and that the stakes, while being personal, are not as wholy selfish as Ten's desire to save Captain Adelaide vs. Elven's trying to save Rory, Amy AND the rest of the people on their ship. The principle is the same. Apart from everything he does to Kazran, he certainly changes things for Abigail AND Abigail's family, who did get to see her for one Christmas Eve.

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* The Doctor violates numerous Laws of Time with no apparent ill-effect. As mentioned above, he allows two versions of the same person from different points in time to meet and nearly touch, with narry nary a Reaper showing up as in ''Fathers Day''. But the real kicker is that, as in ''The Waters of Mars'', The Doctor alters several peoples established personal timelines and tries to significantly change history. Granting that The Doctor is working to save a lot more lives here than then (4000+ vs. 1) and that the stakes, while being personal, are not as wholy selfish as Ten's desire to save Captain Adelaide vs. Elven's Eleven's trying to save Rory, Amy AND the rest of the people on their ship. The principle is the same. Apart from everything he does to Kazran, he certainly changes things for Abigail AND Abigail's family, who did get to see her for one Christmas Eve.



*** Also conisder that unlike the "The Waters of Mars", this apparently was not a fixed point in time. He didn't hesistate during the Silurian two parter to try to alter the timeline either. I think that as long as it's not a corner stone of the time line, he has not trouble causing changes. Also, [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl Amy and Rory were in danger.]]

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*** Also conisder consider that unlike the "The Waters of Mars", this apparently was not a fixed point in time. He didn't hesistate during the Silurian two parter to try to alter the timeline either. I think that as long as it's not a corner stone of the time line, he has not trouble causing changes. Also, [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl Amy and Rory were in danger.]]



** Further...and this cannot be said enough, the Reapers only come as a last ditch effort to correct a massive paradox that there is no other way to clear up, the "because there were 2 copies of us there" reason he gave was not that it CAUSED the paradox, just that it made it far far easier for it to occur, and two different copies of the same person touching does not do anything other then cause a shock between them sometimes, Rose touching her baby self was only bad because they were already in the middle of a gaping wound in time so what was normally not a big deal was made into one.

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** Further...and this cannot be said enough, the Reapers only come as a last ditch effort to correct a massive paradox that there is no other way to clear up, the "because there were 2 copies of us there" reason he gave was not that it CAUSED the paradox, just that it made it far far, far easier for it to occur, and two different copies of the same person touching does not do anything other then cause a shock between them sometimes, Rose touching her baby self was only bad because they were already in the middle of a gaping wound in time so what was normally not a big deal was made into one.


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** It is possible to have a disease and be asymptomatic, and some diseases do not have obvious symptoms.
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* Rory was able to exit the visiting room so why couldn't amy? Couldn't she just go out the way she came in and waited on the Tardis for Rory and the Doctor?
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** It simply wasn’t time yet.

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** Time-Lords are slightly psychic, It is completely possible that the baby doesn't actually speak a language but the doctor understands what he would say if he did, or maybe he is just joking,

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** Time-Lords are slightly psychic, It is completely possible that the baby doesn't actually speak a language but the doctor understands what he would say if he did, or maybe he is just joking,joking.
** RuleOfFunny-as the Twelfth Doctor said, "I’m the Doctor, just accept it."



* Nothing was made of the Doctor's costume changes and seemingly deliberate inconsistent characterization (liking vs. not liking wine, rubik's cubes, and apples) nor of the TARDIS exploding or any of the other little questions that have popped up. Barring Moffat totally forgetting them, that means we have to wait ANOTHER year for answers. I understand the importance of cliffhangers, but at this point it's exhausting.
** Remember though the "future" version of him seen for the first part of The Impossible Astronaut was really the Teselecta and it was THAT which drunk the wine with them. Him being able to drink the wine WAS a clue it wasn't really him there (at least not the "body" we was seeing).

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* Nothing was made of the Doctor's costume changes and seemingly deliberate inconsistent characterization (liking vs. not liking wine, rubik's cubes, Rubik's Cubes, and apples) nor of the TARDIS exploding or any of the other little questions that have popped up. Barring Moffat totally forgetting them, that means we have to wait ANOTHER year for answers. I understand the importance of cliffhangers, but at this point it's exhausting.
** Remember though the "future" version of him seen for the first part of The Impossible Astronaut was really the Teselecta and it was THAT which drunk drank the wine with them. Him The Doctor being able to drink the wine WAS a clue it wasn't really him there (at least not the "body" we was were seeing).


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** Since the Doctor has been to the beginning of time, and he rebooted the universe, so those are most likely connected.
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** [[spoiler:He's NOT the Teselecta until after speaking to it...them. In "Closing Time", he's the real Doctor. However he didn’t cease to exist, Sotheby’s e Teselecta went and did its thing and the Doctor did his. No issue there]].

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** [[spoiler:He's NOT the Teselecta until after speaking to it...them. In "Closing Time", he's the real Doctor. However he didn’t cease to exist, Sotheby’s e So the Teselecta went and did its thing and the Doctor did his. No issue there]].
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** [[spoiler:He's NOT the Teselecta until after speaking to it...them. In "Closing Time", he's the real Doctor]].

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** [[spoiler:He's NOT the Teselecta until after speaking to it...them. In "Closing Time", he's the real Doctor]].Doctor. However he didn’t cease to exist, Sotheby’s e Teselecta went and did its thing and the Doctor did his. No issue there]].
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*** According to the Bible, Jesus had at least seven female apostles, including Mary, Junia, and Prisca, the first teacher of Christian theology. Since the papal mainframe is feminine, obviously the believers of the future are better educated than most of us are today.

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*** According to the Bible, Jesus had at least seven female apostles, disciples, including Mary, Junia, and Prisca, the first teacher of Christian theology. Since the papal mainframe is feminine, obviously the believers of the future are better educated than most of us are today.
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* The whole manhunt thing still doesn't make sense. Were the rest of Canton's team aware of the subterfuge? If not, how the hell did Canton get away with fake-shooting everyone? Was he supposed to just be firing blanks, and then Amy and Rory just played dead? Because honestly, you don't have to be a trained FBI agent to spot the difference between someone being really shot and someone who was just faking a hit. ASSUMING that the gang all knew that they were only being fake manhunted, which the episode never makes clear if they do - sure, Amy seems pretty au fait by the time she pops out the body bag, but she and Rory seemed to genuinely believe they were to be killed at the start, and River chose to dive out of a sky scraper window with no guarantee she'd be saved rather than take part in the plan she (presumably?) already agreed to... More basically, we're not even told why this charade is going on in the first place, Nixon has apparently been kept in the loop and onside from the beginning, so why are they suddenly on the lamb from the FBI? If its all a complex ploy to get inside a dwarf star alloy cell, (which, I assume comes from the Roswell crash, but it'd be nice if they'd've actually said that, rather than just pulling it out of nowhere), then why couldn't the Doctor just request that, and save himself months of being strapped to a chair?

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* The whole manhunt thing still doesn't make sense. Were the rest of Canton's team aware of the subterfuge? If not, how the hell did Canton get away with fake-shooting everyone? Was he supposed to just be firing blanks, and then Amy and Rory just played dead? Because honestly, you don't have to be a trained FBI agent to spot the difference between someone being really shot and someone who was just faking a hit. ASSUMING that the gang all knew that they were only being fake manhunted, which the episode never makes clear if they do - sure, Amy seems pretty au fait by the time she pops out the body bag, but she and Rory seemed to genuinely believe they were to be killed at the start, and River chose to dive out of a sky scraper window with no guarantee she'd be saved rather than take part in the plan she (presumably?) already agreed to... More basically, we're not even told why this charade is going on in the first place, Nixon has apparently been kept in the loop and onside from the beginning, so why are they suddenly on the lamb lam from the FBI? If its all a complex ploy to get inside a dwarf star alloy cell, (which, I assume comes from the Roswell crash, but it'd be nice if they'd've actually said that, rather than just pulling it out of nowhere), then why couldn't the Doctor just request that, and save himself months of being strapped to a chair?
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** She seems a little zoned out, mentally, when Kazran approaches her by the pool at Sinatra's party. Possibly it's a purely neurological condition, with no externally-visible signs.
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** Even if the Doctor had initially failed to make Kazran ''caring'', he didn't necessarily fail at changing him in other ways. Possibly his having had so many Christmas Eve vacations to Earth and history affected him enough to make him stand up to his father more, if only out of spite for knowing how much of the universe he was missing out on, stuck in his role as the reclusive, antisocial Sardik Sr.'s heir. That, in itself, ticked off the old man enough that he denied Kazran control of the machine.

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