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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he '''''wasn't just a "complete asshole"''''', he also began stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a drunk driving accident. All Spike did was be angry that he wasn't interested enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking why Spike got away with being an "asshole". Not in the eyes of the fandom, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist.
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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint attempt at a comparison between Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he '''''wasn't just being a "complete asshole"''''', he also began stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a asshole" (a questionable assessment) to Wheels drunk driving accident. All and killing a child. This also ignores the fact that Shane ignored Spike did was be angry for months after finding out she got pregnant, that he wasn't interested didn't take the entire thing seriously enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking general, which was why Spike got away with being an "asshole". Not was angry at him. There is no DoubleStandard here, except in the eyes of way Spike as a character is assessed by the fandom, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist. fandom.
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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he '''''wasn't just a "complete asshole"''''', he also began stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a drunk driving accident. All Spike did was be angry that he wasn't interested enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking why Spike got away with being an "asshole", but she didn't, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist.
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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he '''''wasn't just a "complete asshole"''''', he also began stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a drunk driving accident. All Spike did was be angry that he wasn't interested enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking why Spike got away with being an "asshole", but she didn't, "asshole". Not in the eyes of the fandom, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist.exist.
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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he was actively stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a drunk driving accident. All Spike did was be angry that he wasn't interested enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking why Spike got away with being an "asshole", but she didn't, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist.
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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he was actively '''''wasn't just a "complete asshole"''''', he also began stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a drunk driving accident. All Spike did was be angry that he wasn't interested enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking why Spike got away with being an "asshole", but she didn't, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist.
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** To say Spike was a "complete asshole" towards Shane and being so dismissive of her issues is misunderstanding the plot entirely. The real headscratcher here would be the fandom's obsession with handwaving Shane's wrongdoings in order to paint Spike in such a horrible light because he had a [[DownerEnding tragic end]]. This headscratcher also makes little sense, as the outcomes of Spike and Wheels' situations are completely different. Wheels had worse consequences because he was actively stealing from his friend's mother and ended up killing a kid in a drunk driving accident. All Spike did was be angry that he wasn't interested enough in being a dad. Shane met his DownerEnding because he chose to take acid. Spike had no control over his destiny. There's no comparison. You're asking why Spike got away with being an "asshole", but she didn't, because most of the discussion you see she gets is the same "Spike was an asshole and Shane was an angel!" crap by people who take her behavior at face value and pretend her perspective doesn't exist.
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* When Spike acts like a complete asshole towards Shane and refuses to let him see his own daughter because of her [[TeenPregnancy crappy]] [[DisappearedDad family life,]] she's justified and in the future becomes HappilyMarried to a different man while Shane's life is utter hell. But when ''Wheels'' acts like a complete asshole like Spike because of his [[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest crappy]] [[ParentalAbandonment family life,]] FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse and he gets arrested for it. I understand DoubleStandards exist and all, but the fact that Spike gets away with what Wheels gets arrested over is irritating as hell.
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* When Spike acts like a complete asshole towards Shane and refuses to let him see his own daughter because of her [[TeenPregnancy crappy]] [[DisappearedDad family life,]] she's justified and in the future becomes HappilyMarried to a different man while Shane's life is utter hell. But when ''Wheels'' acts like a complete asshole like Spike because of his [[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest crappy]] [[ParentalAbandonment family life,]] FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse and he gets arrested for it. I understand DoubleStandards {{Double Standard}}s exist and all, but the fact that Spike gets away with what Wheels gets arrested over is irritating as hell.
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* When Spike acts like a complete asshole towards Shane and refuses to let him see his own daughter because of her [[TeenPregnancy crappy]] [[DisappearedDad family life,]] she's justified and in the future becomes HappilyMarried to a different man while Shane's life is utter hell. But when ''Wheels'' acts like a complete asshole like Spike because of his [[DeceasedParentsAreTheBest crappy]] [[ParentalAbandonment family life,]] FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse and he gets arrested for it. I understand DoubleStandards exist and all, but the fact that Spike gets away with what Wheels gets arrested over is irritating as hell.
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* If Stephanie Kaye is the AlphaBitch, and especially if she thinks Liz is weird, then why is she so friendly with the alternative, punky Spike? In any other scenario, Steph would think of Spike as a weird outsider and probably make snide remarks, and Spike would return the favor with a middle finger.
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* In one episode, Wheels brings up John Lennon as another rock star with glasses, to which Joey and Snake dismiss as "some guy from the sixties". Then why is a poster of the Sgt. Pepper album clearly visible in Joey's basement when they record a demo?
