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** WordOfGod is that the War has lasted for centuries, with the General, Nowhere King, and the Woman being made TheAgeless... but this doesn't quite add up. The Beartaur -- or an GenerationXerox thereof who also had the Hiding Song sung about him -- was alive before the War. Gary was alive before the War, but was imprisoned by Judge Jacket recently enough that his horse, Becky Apples -- who is also indicated to have been around before the War -- is in the prime of her life.
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** You answered your own question. It's a non-diegetic reprise playing in Horse's head as the Nowhere King reveals himself and not meant to be literal like the other songs.
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** You answered your own question. It's a non-diegetic reprise playing in Horse's head as the Nowhere King reveals himself and not meant to be literal like the other songs.songs.
!! The Nowhere King and the General
Since the Elk/Nowhere King and the General are connected so that badly wounding & killing one would injure/kill the other (although to what extent is unclear -- the General started puking up water while trying to drown the Elk, but was just fine when the Elk spent ten years locked up and wasting away)... 1) why did the Elk's mutation into the undead-looking AnimalisticAbomination not affect the General; and 2) when Rider impaled the Nowhere King, why did it fail to kill him and why was the General unharmed given it ''did'' seriously injure the Nowhere King?
!! The Nowhere King and the General
Since the Elk/Nowhere King and the General are connected so that badly wounding & killing one would injure/kill the other (although to what extent is unclear -- the General started puking up water while trying to drown the Elk, but was just fine when the Elk spent ten years locked up and wasting away)... 1) why did the Elk's mutation into the undead-looking AnimalisticAbomination not affect the General; and 2) when Rider impaled the Nowhere King, why did it fail to kill him and why was the General unharmed given it ''did'' seriously injure the Nowhere King?
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** Season 2's finale grants us our earliest chronological glimpse of her. At that time, she had been visiting CentaurWorld on multiple occasions and learning magic. It's safe to assume that, like Rider experiences at the very end, the MW experienced her transformation long before the series began in the form of her hair taking on its unusual, vibrant hue.
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** Season 2's finale grants us our earliest chronological glimpse of her. At that time, she had been visiting CentaurWorld Centaur World on multiple occasions and learning magic. It's safe to assume that, like Rider experiences at the very end, the MW experienced her transformation long before the series began in the form of her hair taking on its unusual, vibrant hue.
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** Season 2's finale grants us our earliest chronological glimpse of her. At that time, she had been visiting CentaurWorld on multiple occasions and learning magic. It's safe to assume that, like Rider experiences at the very end, the MW experienced her transformation long before the series began in the form of her hair taking on its unusual, vibrant hue.
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*** It's likely that gates dock the two worlds to one another while they stand open, figuratively pulling Centaur World and the World of Humankind adjacent to one another. Doug may only be capable of tunneling between the two while the gates are active, and bypassing the gates to travel across by other means may be possible for other creatures as well. His suggestion that he hangs out in Waterbaby's cell makes it sound like he's been crossing back and forth for a while at that point, but his adventurous nature only began at about the time of the gates being reopened.
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*** We do see it once in the show proper: [[spoiler: Right before the Woman kills him.]] He looks that way because Centaurworld only affects people as much as they let it, and he always rejected the Centaur half of himself. Basically, i'ts InternalizedCategorism taken to its logical extremes.
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**** The FridgeHorror on that is pretty choice: [[spoiler: The first thing we find out about the General is that most of his soldiers don't actually know him by his face, they know him by his fancy helmet. He also brings the oldest possible human veterans with him when he goes to bring reinforcement. Nobody questions his lack of aging because nobody in the army actually lives long enough to notice. Most of the adults of humanworld are dead, and the younger ones don't question it because of course he'd be older than themselves.]]
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* Who exactly is singing ''The Nowhere King'' when Horse and Rider are in the Rift between the portals? It's probably not the Nowhere King himself, considering he sings his own rendition that has a much deeper voice. It's also not Horse or Rider considering that they're actively reacting to the situation at hand instead of singing. And it can't be any other character we know of due to no other characters being around. Is the song just there for the audience's sake? If so, that would make that rendition the only non-diegetic song in the entire show.
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* Who exactly is singing ''The Nowhere King'' when Horse and Rider are in the Rift between the portals? It's probably not the Nowhere King himself, considering he sings his own rendition that has a much deeper voice. It's also not Horse or Rider considering that they're actively reacting to the situation at hand instead of singing. And it can't be any other character we know of due to no other characters being around. Is the song just there for the audience's sake? If so, that would make that rendition the only non-diegetic song in the entire show.show.
** You answered your own question. It's a non-diegetic reprise playing in Horse's head as the Nowhere King reveals himself and not meant to be literal like the other songs.
** You answered your own question. It's a non-diegetic reprise playing in Horse's head as the Nowhere King reveals himself and not meant to be literal like the other songs.
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* Who exactly is singing ''The Nowhere King'' when Horse and Rider are in the Rift between the portals? It's probably not the Nowhere King himself, considering he sings his own rendition that has a much deeper voice. It's also not Horse or Rider considering that they're actively reacting to the situation at hand instead of singing. And it can't be any other character we know of due to no other characters being around. Is the song just there for the audience's sake? If so, that would make that rendition the only non-diegetic song in the entire show.
* Who exactly is singing ''The Nowhere King'' when Horse and Rider are in the Rift between the portals? It's probably not the Nowhere King himself, considering he sings his own rendition that has a much deeper voice. It's also not Horse or Rider considering that they're actively reacting to the situation at hand instead of singing. And it can't be any other character we know of due to no other characters being around. Is the song just there for the audience's sake? If so, that would make that rendition the only non-diegetic song in the entire show.
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*** Comfortable Doug digs first into the top of a crossbeam that doesn't ''nearly'' have enough space for the entire rest of his mole half, then immediately digs back down and comes out of the ''underside'' of that same crossbeam to watch the minotaurs. When a Moletaur digs from one side to the other, they're not digging through the earth! When Comfortable Doug says his claws can get through time and space, he means that literally, he's opening a wormhole that he can then peek out through. There wouldn't be a tunnel for Horse to go through, and if the holetaur can't actually exit the hole in the human world (which would explain why Flat Dallas has to come through the portal to face the minotaurs on the other side), the portal would always have a holetaur's butt in the way if she tried to follow after one of them.
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** Just the centaurs whose animal halves are quadrupeds have six limbs. Birdtaurs only have arms/wings and feet and Mermen only have arms and fins/legs because they're supposed to be half animal/half man, but the halves are just connected differently when the limbs can be dual-purpose.
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-->'''And we can stop this war'''
-->'''When you open the door, open the gateway'''
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** Word of God is that Centaurworld only changes you if you, on some level, allow it to. Horse didn't want to be changed physically but she was still growing and changing as a person. The Mysterious Woman was not and therefore didn't change physically.
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*** Possibly they just can't take anyone with them. It's special moletaur magic that allows them to move between worlds themselves while digging, it doesn't open a gate.
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** Except it's not even treated as an option--the Shaman Moletaur doesn't so much as bring it up after coming around to the idea of helping Horse get home, and neither does Waterbaby and the Woman, even though the Woman in particular has a strong incentive to give Horse an other option from opening the Rift. The stakes of the first reason rely on the notion that there is no other way for Horse to get home, but the moletaurs wouldn't have even needed to be adventurous just to drop Horse off and leave.
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* What ''was'' Waterbaby thinking when she sent Horse and the Herd to get the key pieces? She clearly knows about the Nowhere King, and she seems to understand he's a big deal, but she had no plan for when he was freed and she didn't warn Horse or the Herd about him at all---Horse and Rider almost died because they lingered in the Rift not knowing that the Nowhere King was in there, and if the Woman hadn't closed the gate he would have escaped and taken the key immediately. It might seem like she wanted the worlds to be connected again, but then she offers to let the Woman take the key and keep them separate as soon as they make sure Horse was okay. So essentially, Waterbaby in the show set Horse up on a ridiculously risky quest that could have ended in her and her Herd being killed along with Centaurworld being invaded, and didn't so much as try to prepare them for the actual danger. What was her motivation for doing that?
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**If the centaurs age differently, then the humans might too. Sure, the Mysterious Woman might look as if she's in her 50's or 60's, but in the show that might mean she's actually 100. Just because there are humans in the show, doesn't mean they have to age at the same speed that actual real humans do.
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**[[spoiler: We only really see the Elktaur properly in his own memories. Because he's the one remembering it, he's possibly drawn more in the style of the other world because that's where he feels he really belongs, and that's how he's always seen himself.]]
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** Maybe it's because he feels out of place in Centaurworld and feels the Human world more appealing?
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* Why is [[spoiler: the Elktaur]] animated more like he's from the Human world than Centaurworld?
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**** it might be a failsafe to avoid this exact scenario, since if one piece got stuck in the human world it would render it impossible to open the gate again, so they naturally pull towards each other and forcefully rip a short lived hole between worlds
