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** In the beginning Kubo planned for Aizen to be ACTUALLY murdered and for Urahara to be the big bad. Those plans were obviously scrapped, but what if he originally planned to have Hitsugaya as one of the bad guys? After all, Aizen's letter blames Hitsugaya so this could have been foreshadowing to Hitsugaya being a bad guy before Kubo changed his mind.

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** In the beginning Kubo allegedly planned for Aizen to be ACTUALLY murdered and for Urahara to be the big bad. Those plans were obviously scrapped, but what if he originally planned to have Hitsugaya as one of the bad guys? After all, Aizen's letter blames Hitsugaya so this could have been foreshadowing to Hitsugaya being a bad guy before Kubo changed his mind.
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*** Okay, is ANYONE actually going to cite actual evidence that Urahara was intended as the big bad? Because as much I hear of this, I have NEVER been able to find any official confirmation anywhere, and I'm starting to think someone just made that up. Wouldn't be the first for this series.
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** Who came first? The humans on Earth or the humans in the Soul Society? Maybe the system of reincarnation only came into being because the Soul Society was overpopulated? After all, it wouldn't take too many guys and girls with thousand year lifespans reproducing to pack out the place.
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**In the beginning Kubo planned for Aizen to be ACTUALLY murdered and for Urahara to be the big bad. Those plans were obviously scrapped, but what if he originally planned to have Hitsugaya as one of the bad guys? After all, Aizen's letter blames Hitsugaya so this could have been foreshadowing to Hitsugaya being a bad guy before Kubo changed his mind.
**As for why Renji didn't know of Hitsugaya to begin with: Renji's been a lieutenant for maybe 4 months at this point and the inter-division communication in Soul Society seems to have been pretty terrible prior to Aizen's defection, so that could be one reason. Or it might be like that talk between Isshin and Urahara - exposition done in a pretty dumb way, nothing more.
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* The Lieutenant's meeting we see shortly after Ichigo and friends invade the Soul Society raises a lot of questions. As Renji and Momo are talking, Rangiku arrives. She bemoans the state that the Soul Society is in and says that her Captain can't be found anywhere. This raises the first question. Where exactly was Hitsugaya? He's one of the more diligent Captains, and certainly not the type to just disappear, especially if the Soul Society was under attack. However, his apparent absence is never explained or questioned by anyone else. It seems especially strange since Izuru, Shuhei or Momo could have delivered that line equally well, and it would have served as some nice foreshadowing that their captains were up to something. Moving on, Renji then asks Momo who Rangiku's captain is. This raises another question. How the hell does Renji not know all of the Captains off by heart? He's a lieutenant for crying out loud. And it's not like there are all that many captains, and Hitsugaya in particular is notable for being a [[ChildProdigy Child Prodigy]]. Anyway, once Momo reminds Renji who Hitsugaya is, he immediately makes a remark along the lines of "Not that little genius. And I thought I had it bad." This raises the third question. Why would Hitsugaya, who is usually portrayed as strict but fair, be considered an especially bad superior in an organisation that includes [[JerkAss Soi-Fon]], [[MadScientist Mayuri]], and even [[JerkAss Byakuya]] himself (making the "and I thought I had it bad" bit seem especially strange) at the time? I suppose you could chalk it up to jealousy, especially given the 'little genius' snipe, but it still seems strange that anyone would consider Hitsugaya a bad boss when there are such worse leaders in the same organisation.

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* How big is the Soul Society? If you take the "balance of souls" thing into account, there should be over 7 billion people there. This means that the Soul Society would need to be the size of Pangaea in order hold them all. Also, they only have 3000 Soul Reapers to manage all of it.

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* How big is the Soul Society? If you take the "balance of souls" thing into account, there should be over 7 billion people there. This means that the Soul Society would need to be the size of Pangaea in order hold them all. Also, they only have 3000 Soul Reapers to manage all of it. it.
** First of all, there wouldn't even be 7 billion people in Soul Society because not everyone goes there. The Soul Reapers can only cleanse people of acts they committed as a hollow, if they were wicked in life, they go to Hell. So a pretty large amount of souls are probably there. Secondly, balance has more than one meaning and it's not like there's a scale that goes: Soul Society: 4.5 billion souls. World of the Living: 7 billion souls. Well, better go kill some people. It's more like equilibrium, in that they insure there is no troublesome amount of net change, and even then both realms could have very different amounts of souls needed to maintain equilibrium. People die, there's nothing to stop that, but apparently people are also reincarnated, so if a lot of people die, there's gonna need to be a lot of reincarnations to repopulate the earth to restore balance, and vice versa. In all, Soul Society could be the same size as the Earth.
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* How big is the Soul Society? If you take the "balance of souls" thing into account, there should be over 7 billion people there. This means that the Soul Society would need to be the size of Pangaea in order hold them all and only 3000 Soul Reapers to manage it.

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* How big is the Soul Society? If you take the "balance of souls" thing into account, there should be over 7 billion people there. This means that the Soul Society would need to be the size of Pangaea in order hold them all and all. Also, they only have 3000 Soul Reapers to manage all of it.
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* How big is the Soul Society? If you take the "balance of souls" thing into account, there should be over 7 billion people there. This means that the Soul Society would need to be the size of Pangaea in order hold them all and only 3000 Soul Reapers to manage it.
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** Because they still bleed and apparently have organs, so they can still die. Plus quite a few people are BORN in the Soul Society already. When they die, they end up reincarnated some time later and this balance of souls between the human world and the Soul Society is actually brought up quite often. Souls can also be destroyed. Think of it almost like the afterlife in Dragon Ball. People there can still be killed in the afterlife, at which they completely cease to exist on any plane of existence. And quite a few characters have died without ending up reincarnated so they never know when, how, and if they will be reincarnated so they have the desire to preserve their lives all the time.
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* Why is there any mortal danger in the Soul Society? Everyone there IS ALREADY DEAD. How do you die a second time?
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** Also, Hisagi has since learned Bankai, thus likely putting him ahead on Renji in any future promotion oppurtunities on account of being a better allrounder and more experienced in senior command.
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* I think the concept of the afterlife in Bleach Universe might be based off of the Six Domains of the Desire Realm in Buddhism[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms]]. The place the Soul King resides is (in theory, since we haven't seen it in the story) the Deva/God Realm[[hottip:*:The Deva realm is the realm of bliss. The disadvantage of this realm is that things are so very comfortable there, that these beings completely neglect to work towards enlightenment. Instead they gradually use up the good karma they had previously accumulated, and so they subsequently fall to a lower rebirth. The Deva realm is sometimes also referred to as the gods' realm, because its inhabitants are so powerful within their own realm, that compared to humans, they resemble the gods of Greek or Roman mythology. However, while the Devas may be referred to as gods, they are not immortal, omniscient, nor omnipotent, and they do not act as creators or judges at death.]]. Soul Society is the Asura Realm[[hottip:*:The Asura realm is the realm of the demigods. They are here because of actions based on jealousy, struggle, combat or rationalization of the world. They may be here because in human form they had good intentions but committed bad actions such as harming others. The Asuras are said to experience a much more pleasurable life than humans, but they are plagued by envy for the devas, whom they can see just as animals can perceive humans.]]. The Human World is the Human Realm. Hueco Mundo is the Preta/Hungry Ghost Realm[[hottip:*:The sentient beings in this realm are known as "hungry ghosts". They are constantly extremely hungry and thirsty, but they cannot satisfy these needs. In Tibetan versions of the Bhavacakra these beings are drawn with narrow necks and large bellies. This represents the fact that their desires torment them, but they are completely unable to satisfy themselves.]]. Hell is the Naraka/Hell Realm[[hottip:*:The Naraka realm is a rebirth based on strong states of hatred cultivated in a previous life or lives. Those being punished in this realm are not trapped permanently. Rather, they remain there until their negative karma is used up, at which point they are reborn into another realm.]]. The only one that doesn't seem to fit with Bleach is the Animal Realm[[hottip:*:The Animal realm (also known as the Tiryag-yoni realm) is based on strong mental states of stupidity and prejudice cultivated in a previous life or lives. Buddhists believe that this realm is the realm of existence of the nonhuman animals on Earth. Humans can however be seen by the animals, in the same way that the Asura can see the Devas.]]. There haven't been any animals shown in Soul Society aside from the Hogs that Ganju and his gang had and the Hell Butterflies, so perhaps they go to their own afterlife?

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* I think the concept of the afterlife in Bleach Universe might be based off of the Six Domains of the Desire Realm in Buddhism[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms]]. The place the Soul King resides is (in theory, since we haven't seen it in the story) the Deva/God Realm[[hottip:*:The Realm[[labelnote:*]]The Deva realm is the realm of bliss. The disadvantage of this realm is that things are so very comfortable there, that these beings completely neglect to work towards enlightenment. Instead they gradually use up the good karma they had previously accumulated, and so they subsequently fall to a lower rebirth. The Deva realm is sometimes also referred to as the gods' realm, because its inhabitants are so powerful within their own realm, that compared to humans, they resemble the gods of Greek or Roman mythology. However, while the Devas may be referred to as gods, they are not immortal, omniscient, nor omnipotent, and they do not act as creators or judges at death.]]. [[/labelnote]]. Soul Society is the Asura Realm[[hottip:*:The Realm[[labelnote:*]]The Asura realm is the realm of the demigods. They are here because of actions based on jealousy, struggle, combat or rationalization of the world. They may be here because in human form they had good intentions but committed bad actions such as harming others. The Asuras are said to experience a much more pleasurable life than humans, but they are plagued by envy for the devas, whom they can see just as animals can perceive humans.]].[[/labelnote]]. The Human World is the Human Realm. Hueco Mundo is the Preta/Hungry Ghost Realm[[hottip:*:The Realm[[labelnote:*]]The sentient beings in this realm are known as "hungry ghosts". They are constantly extremely hungry and thirsty, but they cannot satisfy these needs. In Tibetan versions of the Bhavacakra these beings are drawn with narrow necks and large bellies. This represents the fact that their desires torment them, but they are completely unable to satisfy themselves.]]. [[/labelnote]]. Hell is the Naraka/Hell Realm[[hottip:*:The Realm[[labelnote:*]]The Naraka realm is a rebirth based on strong states of hatred cultivated in a previous life or lives. Those being punished in this realm are not trapped permanently. Rather, they remain there until their negative karma is used up, at which point they are reborn into another realm.]]. [[/labelnote]]. The only one that doesn't seem to fit with Bleach is the Animal Realm[[hottip:*:The Realm[[labelnote:*]]The Animal realm (also known as the Tiryag-yoni realm) is based on strong mental states of stupidity and prejudice cultivated in a previous life or lives. Buddhists believe that this realm is the realm of existence of the nonhuman animals on Earth. Humans can however be seen by the animals, in the same way that the Asura can see the Devas.]].[[/labelnote]]. There haven't been any animals shown in Soul Society aside from the Hogs that Ganju and his gang had and the Hell Butterflies, so perhaps they go to their own afterlife?



** I just realized something. Byakuya has golden koi fish in his pond[[hottip:*:at least he ''did'' until Yachiru stole them and put them in Ukitake's pond as a get well present]]that are extremely rare and have been raised on the Kuchiki grounds for many generations[[http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Kuchiki_Family_Manor]]. I'm probably overthinking this[[hottip:*:I doubt this has any importance at all.]], but since the Kuchiki family is in charge of compiling & protecting the history of Soul Society and animals seem to be rare, maybe the fish are special[[hottip:*:kind of like the koi fish in Avatar: The Last Airbender. They were the moon and sun spirits (kept in a sacred pond), and when [[FanNickname moon-koi]] was murdered, the moon in the sky went dark (dissappeared?), and sun-koi was thrown out of balance and started swimming erratically. I'm not saying the ones in Byakuya's pond are ''that'' important, but that they could be some kind of significant spirit.]]?

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** I just realized something. Byakuya has golden koi fish in his pond[[hottip:*:at pond[[labelnote:*]]at least he ''did'' until Yachiru stole them and put them in Ukitake's pond as a get well present]]that present[[/labelnote]]that are extremely rare and have been raised on the Kuchiki grounds for many generations[[http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Kuchiki_Family_Manor]]. I'm probably overthinking this[[hottip:*:I this[[labelnote:*]]I doubt this has any importance at all.]], [[/labelnote]], but since the Kuchiki family is in charge of compiling & protecting the history of Soul Society and animals seem to be rare, maybe the fish are special[[hottip:*:kind special[[labelnote:*]]kind of like the koi fish in Avatar: The Last Airbender. They were the moon and sun spirits (kept in a sacred pond), and when [[FanNickname moon-koi]] was murdered, the moon in the sky went dark (dissappeared?), and sun-koi was thrown out of balance and started swimming erratically. I'm not saying the ones in Byakuya's pond are ''that'' important, but that they could be some kind of significant spirit.]]?[[/labelnote]]?

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**** Actually we have seen the 'real' Central 46 in action. They're the one's who condemned Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi on seriously paltry evidence, without giving them any chance to defend themselves. Noteworthy, because the condemned were all high officials, with Yoruichi being the heir of one of the Four Great Noble Houses. Other than that, Sereitei is demonstrably not a benevolent government. Urahara, before becoming a Captain, was in charge of a prison for 'dissidents', which is anyone who disagreed with the current system. Kurotsuchi Mayuri used his division shinigami as living bombs, obviously without consent, with no demonstrable consequence. Kon is a prime example of Soul Society's attitude towards sentient, if artificial, creations. Also, it should be noted that Aizen got away with impersonating the Central 46 because of the rigid, I-will-not-question-orders attitude of Yamamoto et al. The fact that districts like Zaraki exist mean one of two things - Sereitei cannot control all of Rukongai or Sereitei allows the situation there to persist. Neither imply good governance. So, yeah...Soul Society is a CrapsackWorld.

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**** Actually we have seen the 'real' Central 46 in action. They're the one's who condemned Urahara, Tessai and Yoruichi on seriously paltry evidence, without giving them any chance to defend themselves. Noteworthy, because the condemned were all high officials, with Yoruichi being the heir of one of the Four Great Noble Houses. Other than that, Sereitei is demonstrably not a benevolent government. Urahara, before becoming a Captain, was in charge of a prison for 'dissidents', which is anyone who disagreed with the current system.system, where people could be imprisoned for having the ''potential'' to commit crimes. Kurotsuchi Mayuri used his division shinigami as living bombs, obviously without consent, with no demonstrable consequence. Kon is a prime example of Soul Society's attitude towards sentient, if artificial, creations. Also, it should be noted that Aizen got away with impersonating the Central 46 because of the rigid, I-will-not-question-orders attitude of Yamamoto et al. The fact that districts like Zaraki exist mean one of two things - Sereitei cannot control all of Rukongai or Sereitei allows the situation there to persist. Neither imply good governance. So, yeah...Soul Society is a CrapsackWorld.


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** It certainly doesn't help matters that, when it comes to an afterlife, the only options are Soul Society (which, as others have mentioned, is hardly an ideal place), Hell, turning into a Hollow, or ceasing to exist.
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*** And the fact his fight with Byakuya proved it takes more than achieving bankai to be captain level. Byakuya didn't need bankai to defeat Renji. He defeated him with kidou and then used bankai just to prove a point. Renji himself believed only Ikkaku was worthy to become a captain under current levels of power.

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*** And the fact his fight with Byakuya proved it takes more than achieving bankai Bankai to be captain level. Byakuya didn't need bankai Bankai to defeat Renji. He defeated him with kidou Kido and then used bankai Bankai just to prove a point. Renji himself believed only Ikkaku was worthy to become a captain under current levels of power.



*** Well, remember the qualifications for captain. The one requires Bankai, which neither has, and the other one they could do (Since they are unlikely to kill their ex-captains with loads of members around) needs reccomendations from 6 captains and approval of at least three more, so basically almost all the captains would have to be behind it. I'm sure in the future they will probably be elected captains of their respective squads, and for now, they count as "active" or "temporary" captain. As for Renji, who has Bankai, well, while I doubt he'd turn it down if offered (He wants to surpass Byakuya, and becoming a captain would help, no?), you can tell he hasn't been tried to talk Ikkaku into going for a premotion (That dub episode just aired so it's fresh in my mind). Even while Renji has Bankai, he's still a rather inexperienced compared to some other choices, as he's only had Bankai for a few months at best. To answer the original point, Ichigo is still A( A living dude (I wouldn't put it past SS to kill people to get them in the power structure, but Ichigo would be pissed), B( Still only a substitute shinigami. Can you imagine those hardasses in charge putting him in a captain's slot straight from that? I can't. He fights "for them" well enough where he is now, C( Since squads apparently have some sort of theme to them, I doubt Ichigo matches the philosophies of squads 3,5, or 9, and D( Though SS probably doesn't know yet, Ichigo is a Vizard, and I bet that doesn't fly in the command structure.

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*** Well, remember the qualifications for captain. The one requires Bankai, which neither has, and the other one they could do (Since they are unlikely to kill their ex-captains with loads of members around) needs reccomendations recomendations from 6 captains and approval of at least three more, so basically almost all the captains would have to be behind it. I'm sure in the future they will probably be elected captains of their respective squads, and for now, they count as "active" or "temporary" captain. As for Renji, who has Bankai, well, while I doubt he'd turn it down if offered (He wants to surpass Byakuya, and becoming a captain would help, no?), you can tell he hasn't been tried to talk Ikkaku into going for a premotion promotion (That dub episode just aired so it's fresh in my mind). Even while Renji has Bankai, he's still a rather inexperienced compared to some other choices, as he's only had Bankai for a few months at best. To answer the original point, Ichigo is still A( A living dude (I wouldn't put it past SS to kill people to get them in the power structure, but Ichigo would be pissed), B( Still only a substitute shinigami. Can you imagine those hardasses in charge putting him in a captain's slot straight from that? I can't. He fights "for them" well enough where he is now, C( Since squads apparently have some sort of theme to them, I doubt Ichigo matches the philosophies of squads 3,5, or 9, and D( Though SS probably doesn't know yet, Ichigo is a Vizard, Visored, and I bet that doesn't fly in the command structure.



*** I don't know, the way Ichigo's been acting reciently he could fit in with Squad 3. They hate fighting, but see it as a necessary evil.

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*** I don't know, the way Ichigo's been acting reciently recently he could fit in with Squad 3. They hate fighting, but see it as a necessary evil.



*** On the other hand, Zaraki seems to be able to inspire absolute loyalty from his squad, so much so that those of his underlings with Bankai don't WANT to be promoted out. They even follow him when he goes against the Central 46 and Captain Commander, with not even one whistle-blower. He's managed to raise Yachiru, so we know he has some sense of responsiblity. He even goes to meetings. And it is implied that his predecessor was a pretty poor leader.
** There's also Urahara, Tessai, and Yoruichi, three former Captains residing in the living world. They were about to be exiled by Central 46 (who are now dead)-- Urahara for conducting Hollowfication experiments (which was actually Aizen), Tessai for helping him, and Yoruichi for helping them both escape. Even if Soul Society doesn't want the former Captains among the Vizored back, those three ought to have a basically clean slate by now.

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*** On the other hand, Zaraki seems to be able to inspire absolute loyalty from his squad, so much so that those of his underlings with Bankai don't WANT to be promoted out. They even follow him when he goes against the Central 46 and Captain Commander, with not even one whistle-blower. He's managed to raise Yachiru, so we know he has some sense of responsiblity.responsibility. He even goes to meetings. And it is implied that his predecessor was a pretty poor leader.
** There's also Urahara, Tessai, and Yoruichi, three former Captains residing in the living world. They were about to be exiled by Central 46 (who are now dead)-- Urahara for conducting Hollowfication experiments (which was actually Aizen), Tessai for helping him, and Yoruichi for helping them both escape. Even if Soul Society doesn't want the former Captains among the Vizored Visored back, those three ought to have a basically clean slate by now.



** Because all Ichigo knows how to do is use his Zanpakuto, and you need to know more than that to be a soul reaper, e.g. kido.

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** Because all Ichigo knows how to do is use his Zanpakuto, and you need to know more than that to be a soul reaper, e.g. kido.Kido.



* I don't get it. Whats up with Soul Society they were pretty adamant on killing Rukia for some minor indiscretion and now they are taking it easy on people trying to destroy them and a city? Why did Yama-jii just give those girls some minor burns, instead of out right frying their sorry asses to a crisp. Why is Unohana healing arrancar? Kubo whats up man.

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* I don't get it. Whats up with Soul Society they were pretty adamant on killing Rukia for some minor indiscretion and now they are taking it easy on people trying to destroy them and a city? Why did Yama-jii just give those girls some minor burns, instead of out right outright frying their sorry asses to a crisp. Why is Unohana healing arrancar? Kubo whats up man.Arrancar? Kubo, what's up, man?



*** Kyoraku and Ukitake have been shinigami for over 2000 years, possibly including their training persiod. Clearly, at some point, aging can just STOP.
*** This troper always assumed that the rate at which you age in Soul Society is inveresely proportional to the amount of spirit power you actively use. Meaning, the more you use, the slower you age and the other way around. That would explain how Renji and Rukia were able to grow up relatively fast as kids - since they used only small amounts of spirit power - but stopped almost completely once they were accepted into the academy. It is also the only way to explain how the world is not MAJORLY imbalanced when it comes to living humans vs. dead people. That is, if dead people have such long *cough* life spans *cough*, and a new human only is born when a soul reincarnates...major mathematical issue, anyone? (Then again, how to account for population growth is really beyond this troper....)
* Among Soi Fong's exact words were, "All who get in my way are my enemies. All enemies must be slain. That is all that matters." Why would she say that? Would some of the people that get in the way include innocent bystanders and children? Does she not believe in ThouShaltNotKill?
** Why would she? She's been trained from a very young age to be a personal body guard to the leader of a clan that traditionally controlled an entire organisation of assassins (among other things), and is now in charge of that very same organisation, not to mention also being in charge (at the same time) of an entire military division that's charged with protecting society. And that's before we get to the subject of why a Chinese character in a Japanese setting would ever adhere to a Christian concept. While Buddhism has its own set of restraints on the subject of killing, that just brings us back to her role as an assassin and a leader of both assassin and military divisions. That's also ignoring the fact she likes to play the tough guy.

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*** Kyoraku and Ukitake have been shinigami for over 2000 years, possibly including their training persiod.period. Clearly, at some point, aging can just STOP.
*** This troper always assumed that the rate at which you age in Soul Society is inveresely inversely proportional to the amount of spirit power you actively use. Meaning, the more you use, the slower you age and the other way around. That would explain how Renji and Rukia were able to grow up relatively fast as kids - since they used only small amounts of spirit power - but stopped almost completely once they were accepted into the academy. It is also the only way to explain how the world is not MAJORLY imbalanced when it comes to living humans vs. dead people. That is, if dead people have such long *cough* life spans *cough*, and a new human only is born when a soul reincarnates...major mathematical issue, anyone? (Then again, how to account for population growth is really beyond this troper....)
* Among Soi Fong's Fon's exact words were, "All who get in my way are my enemies. All enemies must be slain. That is all that matters." Why would she say that? Would some of the people that get in the way include innocent bystanders and children? Does she not believe in ThouShaltNotKill?
** Why would she? She's been trained from a very young age to be a personal body guard to the leader of a clan that traditionally controlled an entire organisation organization of assassins (among other things), and is now in charge of that very same organisation, organization, not to mention also being in charge (at the same time) of an entire military division that's charged with protecting society. And that's before we get to the subject of why a Chinese character in a Japanese setting would ever adhere to a Christian concept. While Buddhism has its own set of restraints on the subject of killing, that just brings us back to her role as an assassin and a leader of both assassin and military divisions. That's also ignoring the fact she likes to play the tough guy.



* Central 46's judicial process and subsequent judgments: Even setting aside Rukia's sentence (which wasn't actually handed down by the Central 46), their "justice" system makes no sense. Tessai was sentenced to (extremely long, if not immortal) life in prison (at the "3rd level") for using a forbidden kido. Urahara Kisuke was sentenced to removal of powers and eternal banishment to earth for experimenting with Hollowfication on captains. In contrast, Kurotsuchi Mayuri has been unethically experimenting to his heart's content without a peep from the Central 46. This raises the issue that Central 46 (and, to a somewhat lesser degree, the Gotei 13) seem to have the attitude that as long as it's not us/Sereitei, it doesn't matter. But the real headbanger is how they responded to Aizen Sousuke: the man who was discovered to have actually been behind the Hollowfication of the Vaizards, the man who killed the previous Central 46, who created most of the current Espada, who was trying to ''wipe out Soul Society'' was sentenced to 18,800 years in prison. That's ''less'' time than Tessai was sentenced to! Granted, Aizen was sentenced to the highest (8th) level of the prison, but the fact that Aizen could be released--without even having his powers removed--in the future just makes no sense to this troper, particularly considering Tessai and Urahara's sentences

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* Central 46's judicial process and subsequent judgments: Even setting aside Rukia's sentence (which wasn't actually handed down by the Central 46), their "justice" system makes no sense. Tessai was sentenced to (extremely long, if not immortal) life in prison (at the "3rd level") for using a forbidden kido.Kido. Urahara Kisuke was sentenced to removal of powers and eternal banishment to earth for experimenting with Hollowfication on captains. In contrast, Kurotsuchi Mayuri has been unethically experimenting to his heart's content without a peep from the Central 46. This raises the issue that Central 46 (and, to a somewhat lesser degree, the Gotei 13) seem to have the attitude that as long as it's not us/Sereitei, it doesn't matter. But the real headbanger is how they responded to Aizen Sousuke: the man who was discovered to have actually been behind the Hollowfication of the Vaizards, Visoreds, the man who killed the previous Central 46, who created most of the current Espada, who was trying to ''wipe out Soul Society'' was sentenced to 18,800 years in prison. That's ''less'' time than Tessai was sentenced to! Granted, Aizen was sentenced to the highest (8th) level of the prison, but the fact that Aizen could be released--without even having his powers removed--in the future just makes no sense to this troper, particularly considering Tessai and Urahara's sentences
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*** There is also the fact that Orihime pretty much acted on Loly and Menoly quickly. It is a lot like actual medics, the longer it takes to get started with treatment, the less likely it is for success. Sasakibe was probably dead for too long for even Orihime to bring him back even if she tried whereas one of the two who got her upper half blown off was treated quickly enough to survive and/or be revived.

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**By this point Central 46 was dead and to try and punish the Captain would have deprived Soul Society of vital military assets during a time of war. Aside from that, Soul Society justice is very selective on who it will punish. Murderers can get off free and a mad scientist is within the ranks of the Shinigami.



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You can't blame them *****If the movies and anime are taken into account Central 46 cares more about the so called "harmony" of Soul Society than justice. As stated, a prison was made for doing anyone deemed a threat to this harmony regardless if they broke a law or not. Severe punishments sound to be something that simply isn't they're job. of the norm. Nobles on the other hand are immune to any form of criminal investigation unless you somehow have evidence. Tosen turned against Soul Society because his friend was murdered and Central 46 did not punish the man. One of the Shinigamis' jobs is to police the rest of Soul Society. That is why the districts close to it are safe and clean and the ones further away are slums or worse. Given the punishments so far handed out by Central 46 and Yamamoto not questioning it it sounds like it is not unusual.
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** An ideal afterlife shouldn't have those bad areas to begin with. There's disease, poverty, the Central 46 is a terrible governing body, shinigami can act like {{Jerkass}}es or {{Complete Monster}}s without any real consequences, and the whole society basically functions like feudal Japan, which pretty sucks for anyone who didn't live in feudal Japan.

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** An ideal afterlife shouldn't have those bad areas to begin with. There's disease, poverty, the Central 46 is a terrible governing body, shinigami can act like {{Jerkass}}es or {{Complete Monster}}s without any real consequences, and the whole society basically functions like feudal Japan, which pretty sucks for anyone who didn't live in feudal Japan.
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* The fact that they have probably been too busy preparing to deal with the Quincies when they return to think of a way to resurrect one person would have something to do with it as well.

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* *** The fact that they have probably been too busy preparing to deal with the Quincies when they return to think of a way to resurrect one person would have something to do with it as well.
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* The fact that they have probably been too busy preparing to deal with the Quincies when they return to think of a way to resurrect one person would have something to do with it as well.
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*** I can think of three reasons for this. 1: They don't know. We, the readers, know she can revive the dead but really very few others know that. From what I remember the only ones should be Aizen (who is in super prison), Loly and Menoly (who are in Hueco Mundo) and Orihime herself. Why she didn't offer to help in unknown but I guess either she also does not full understand what she really can do, she forgot, or she did not have the time to offer. 2: she can't because he was killed by a Quincy. This is making an assumption but is is stated that Quincies completly destroy the souls of hollows they kill so maybe that includes Soul Reapers as well and that might be to much for her powers to reverse. 3: Pride, something tells me that Yamamoto is to proud of both himself and his lieutenants sacrifice (and focused on revenge) to call on her to reverse his death. They are a bit of a stretch but not impossible.
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*** ...one of them had [[ChunkySalsaRule the entire upper half of her body]] destroyed, and yet Orihime was able to bring her back. She should be able to fix one stab wound.

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** Also about Reji even if he was strong enough it would probably be bad for the squads after all Momo and Kira were both his classmates and hisagi was an upperclassmen to him and while squad ten may have just accepted Hitsugiya because he's a genius renji isn't

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** Also about Reji even if he was strong enough it would probably be bad for the squads after all Momo and Kira were both his classmates and hisagi was an upperclassmen to him and while squad ten may have just accepted Hitsugiya because he's a genius renji isn't isn't
** In Bleach chapter 479, Shinji, Rose, and Kensei (3 Visored) rejoin the Gotei 13, resuming their former positions as Captains
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* During the war with Aizen and Heuco Mundo, why is Soul Society so relatively passive? No reconnaisance by fire from Squad 2 or 11, no attacks on the Hollow armies that Aizen was building, etc. The shinigami do have the ability to travel to Heuco Mundo so since you have at least two captains with WMDs for bankai, why not have Mayuri or Yamamoto just use them on Aizen's HQ? It seems to be the only man-made structure of its size, so large that its visible on the horizon. Even if they don't get Aizen (realistically, wide-area attacks are the best way to counter illusionists), putting a dent in his ranks and possibly killing some of the Espada surely would have been worth it. Considering the hype surrounding Ryuujin Jaka, Yamamoto's bankai could possibly even kill the majority of the Espada and the defector Captains with a quick, surgical strike.

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* During the war with Aizen and Heuco Mundo, why is Soul Society so relatively passive? No reconnaisance by fire from Squad 2 or 11, no attacks on the Hollow armies that Aizen was building, etc. The shinigami do have the ability to travel to Heuco Mundo so since you have at least two captains with WMDs for bankai, why not have Mayuri or Yamamoto just use them on Aizen's HQ? It seems to be the only man-made structure of its size, so large that its visible on the horizon. Even if they don't get Aizen (realistically, wide-area attacks are the best way to counter illusionists), putting a dent in his ranks and possibly killing some of the Espada surely would have been worth it. Considering the hype surrounding Ryuujin Jaka, Yamamoto's bankai could possibly even kill the majority of the Espada and the defector Captains with a quick, surgical strike.
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* During the war with Aizen and Heuco Mundo, why is Soul Society so relatively passive? No reconnaisance by fire from Squad 2 or 11, no attacks on the Hollow armies that Aizen was building, etc. The shinigami do have the ability to travel to Heuco Mundo so since you have at least two captains with WMDs for bankai, why not have Mayuri or Yamamoto just use them on Aizen's HQ? It seems to be the only man-made structure of its size, so large that its visible on the horizon. Even if they don't get Aizen (realistically, wide-area attacks are the best way to counter illusionists), putting a dent in his ranks and possibly killing some of the Espada surely would have been worth it. Considering the hype surrounding Ryuujin Jaka, Yamamoto's bankai could possibly even kill the majority of the Espada and the defector Captains with a quick, surgical strike.
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** Because the manga has never claimed Loly and Menoly were dead or that Orihime brought them back from the dead. The idea of her resurrecting them from death is {{fanon}} only. At the current time, characters in-universe have no reason to believe Orihime can resurrect the dead and the fandom only ''speculates'' that she can.
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* Why has no one in Soul Society thought to bring in Orihime to resurrect [[spoiler: Sasakibe,]] the same way she did with Loly and Menoly?
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** Actually, they can and have. Mayuri just revealed that he recently had 28,000 souls killed for the sake of soul balance.
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**Also about Reji even if he was strong enough it would probably be bad for the squads after all Momo and Kira were both his classmates and hisagi was an upperclassmen to him and while squad ten may have just accepted Hitsugiya because he's a genius renji isn't
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** I just realized something. Byakuya has golden koi fish in his pond[[hottip:*:at least he ''did'' until Yachiru stole them and put them in Ukitake's pond as a get well present]]that are extremely rare and have been raised on the Kuchiki grounds for many generations[[http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Kuchiki_Family_Manor]]. I'm probably overthinking this[[hottip:*:I doubt this has any importance at all.]], but since the Kuchiki family is in charge of compiling & protecting the history of Soul Society and animals seem to be rare, maybe the fish are special[[hottip:*:kind of like the koi fish in Avatar: The Last Airbender. They were the moon and sun spirits (kept in a sacred pond), and when [[FanNickname moon-koi]] was murdered, the moon in the sky went dark (dissappeared?), and sun-koi was thrown out of balance and started swimming erratically. I'm not saying the ones in Byakuya's pond are ''that'' important, but that they could be some kind of significant spirit.]]?
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**** No, it's not. First, Yamamoto not questioning his orders. Why should he? Other than how harsh it was, he had no reason to. Because of Aizen's abilities, it looked like it came from Central 46. He would have to assume they were just looking to make an example out of her, or make sure it didn't appear they were going easy on a highly important family. Alright, I'll grant you how harsh they were on Urahara and Yourichi. A bit agressive there. And how is the Zaraki district in any way relevant? The Soul Reapers aren't cops. They're soldiers. It's their job to protect the world of the living, and keep the Soul Society safe from Hollows and the like. They simply don't have the resources to do both. Do you expect the National Guard to patrol rough areas of Los Angeles? Of course not. That's not what they're there for.
You can't blame them for doing something that simply isn't they're job.

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