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** The only unrealistic thing about this setup is the idea of government officials' children not being exempt from the program. It ''is'' a dictatorship after all, and if the kid's parent is high enough on the totem pole, said parent would be above consequences if they decided Kamon/Sakamochi had [[ItsPersonal overstepped his bounds]].


* It might just be another BlindIdiotTranslation on Tokyopop's part, but in the beginning when Kamon says that last year's winner was a girl, wasn't the last year's winner Shogo? Didn't it also mention that Shogo went through an entire publicity stunt? Even if it was just to stir-up further mistrust among the students, wouldn't everybody in the class already know when Shogo transferred in that he was the winner? Even if he did buzzcut his hair in order to try and look unrecognizable, shouldn't the wounds on his body, his name, and the fact he'd been held back a year make them put two-and-two together (you'd think Kiriyama at least) would've made the connection or raise some suspicion? Shouldn't that whole thing have backfired a bit, giving less credibility to his scare tactics. In the novel, they only give the student's gender and number and the prefecture they'd come from and, and I think the entire family was put on gag-order or get shot if they don't comply.

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* It might just be another BlindIdiotTranslation on Tokyopop's part, but in the beginning when Kamon says that last year's winner was a girl, wasn't the last year's winner Shogo? Didn't it also mention that Shogo went through an entire publicity stunt? Even if it was just to stir-up further mistrust among the students, wouldn't everybody in the class already know when Shogo transferred in that he was the winner? Even if he did buzzcut his hair in order to try and look unrecognizable, shouldn't the wounds on his body, his name, and the fact he'd been held back a year make them put two-and-two together (you'd think Kiriyama at least) would've made the connection or raise some suspicion? Shouldn't that whole thing have backfired a bit, giving less credibility to somewhat, making his scare tactics. tactics less effective? In the novel, they only give the student's gender and number and number, the prefecture they'd come from location of where it happened and, and I think the entire family was put on gag-order or get shot if they don't didn't comply.


** I saw it as Kiriyama stopping out of his usual morbid curiosity. He's just been in an full-on gunfight with this girl and she pulls out a Magic Emily ring? It makes him curious.

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** I saw it as Kiriyama stopping out of his usual morbid curiosity. He's just been in an full-on gunfight with this girl and she pulls out a Magic Emily ring? It makes him curious.curious.
* It might just be another BlindIdiotTranslation on Tokyopop's part, but in the beginning when Kamon says that last year's winner was a girl, wasn't the last year's winner Shogo? Didn't it also mention that Shogo went through an entire publicity stunt? Even if it was just to stir-up further mistrust among the students, wouldn't everybody in the class already know when Shogo transferred in that he was the winner? Even if he did buzzcut his hair in order to try and look unrecognizable, shouldn't the wounds on his body, his name, and the fact he'd been held back a year make them put two-and-two together (you'd think Kiriyama at least) would've made the connection or raise some suspicion? Shouldn't that whole thing have backfired a bit, giving less credibility to his scare tactics. In the novel, they only give the student's gender and number and the prefecture they'd come from and, and I think the entire family was put on gag-order or get shot if they don't comply.

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** Well, she was shocked when Kitano announced that her friend, Megumi, was dead.


** I kind of took it as it striking a chord and a part of him wanting to feel emotion again, but he shook it off and went back to the EmptyShell. When he did the surgery on himself, I thought it was mostly because he was confused by his hesitantion in shooting her, so he pulled those muscles out of his body to see if there was something wrong, and he just taped them in place in order for it not to happen again (not realizing what really caused him to stop).

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** I kind of took it as it striking a chord and a part of him wanting to feel emotion again, but he shook it off and went back to the EmptyShell. When he did the surgery on himself, I thought it was mostly because he was confused by his hesitantion hesitation in shooting her, so he pulled those muscles out of his body to see if there was something wrong, and he just taped them in place in order for it not to happen again (not realizing what really caused him to stop).stop).
** I saw it as Kiriyama stopping out of his usual morbid curiosity. He's just been in an full-on gunfight with this girl and she pulls out a Magic Emily ring? It makes him curious.


*** Viz only did the novel, TokyoPop handled the manga and its regrettable translation choices.

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*** Viz only did the novel, TokyoPop {{Creator/Tokyopop}} handled the manga and its regrettable translation choices.


** It doesn't have to be Japan by itself winning WW2 either, it was allied with other nations. Maybe in AlternateHistory FridgeLogic the German atomic bomb project actually got finished before Berlin's fall?

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** It doesn't have to be Japan by itself winning WW2 [=WW2=] either, it was allied with other nations. Maybe in AlternateHistory FridgeLogic the German atomic bomb project actually got finished before Berlin's fall?


** Also in the novel and manga after Shinji's attempt to hack their system fails, he figures out their collars are mic'd so he and Yutaka switch over to writing out their communications.


*** Instead of turning it into something like a reality show for the populace, Tokyopop could've possibily made the families pay to hear the updates on their children and by concept of a [[NightmareFetishist nichè market]], those willing to spend the money to listen to it. We know all too well Battle Royale has spawned a similar sort of [[MisaimedFandom audience]].



** It was also mentioned in the novel any families that raised any sort of objections would be killed on the spot. I can imagine they'd keep an eye on any potential political dissidents and eliminate them if they start any disturbances, like Shinji's uncle.



** Also, in the original novel, several characters states that there were instructions following their weapons, especially the guns. Some, however, only noted that they did not bother reading because they already knew...

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** Also, in the original novel, several characters states state that there were instructions following their weapons, especially the guns. Some, however, only noted that they did not bother reading because they already knew...



** It doesn't have to be Japan by itself winning WW2 either, it was allied with other nations. Maybe in AlternateHistory FridgeLogic the German atomic bomb project actually got finished before Berlin's fall?



** Well, aside from BlindIdiotTranslation on Tokyopop's end (so who knows if this was accurate), The Program's only known within Japan due to how isolated it's become. As someone mentioned above, it'd be easy enough to pass off his death as some sort of accident or lesser crime depending on how he died. As to why he was accepted into Greater East Asia? Possibly as a sort of propaganda move, and his stay was supposed to be in StepfordSuburbia, it's just his class had the bad luck of being picked for that year's program.



** Maybe a darker AlternateCharacterInterpretation, but she did get bullied and ignored by most of her classmates while it was Kitano who showed her kindness.



* If the Battle Royale is held to keep young people in fear, then why does no one in the class (barring the two who signed up on purpose) know about it beforehand? Especially when they display the winner on television every year?

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* If the film Battle Royale is held to keep young people in fear, then why does no one in the class (barring the two who signed up on purpose) know about it beforehand? Especially when they display the winner on television every year?



** It's likely unless someone drops out entirely, it doesn't matter whether they are or aren't attending school, their name will still be on the class roster and if their class is picked, the Special Defense Forces would drag their asses out of their homes. It might not even be possible to drop out until a certain a grade, or it's mandatory until you graduate.



** I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be ambiguous. Kiriyama looked like he was smirking as she attempted to seduce him, and sure took his time with killing her. And his reaction to the ring was extreme for him, and he did seem to hesitate there. But he's later shown performing surgery on himself, suggesting that it was simply due to injury.

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** I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be ambiguous. Kiriyama looked like he was smirking as she attempted to seduce him, and sure took his time with killing her. And his reaction to the ring was extreme for him, and he did seem to hesitate there. But he's later shown performing surgery on himself, suggesting that it was simply due to injury.injury.
** I kind of took it as it striking a chord and a part of him wanting to feel emotion again, but he shook it off and went back to the EmptyShell. When he did the surgery on himself, I thought it was mostly because he was confused by his hesitantion in shooting her, so he pulled those muscles out of his body to see if there was something wrong, and he just taped them in place in order for it not to happen again (not realizing what really caused him to stop).

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** Also in the novel and manga after Shinji's attempt to hack their system fails, he figures out their collars are mic'd so he and Yutaka switch over to writing out their communications.


* In the manga, what exactly was up with Kiriyama's reactions to Mitsuko's Magic Emily ring? Did it have to do with all the stuff Mitsuko saying in her delirium touching a nerve deep down in his subconscious? Or was it something LostInTranslation?

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* In the manga, what exactly was up with Kiriyama's reactions to Mitsuko's Magic Emily ring? Did it have to do with all the stuff Mitsuko saying in her delirium touching a nerve deep down in his subconscious? Or was it something LostInTranslation?LostInTranslation?
** I'm pretty sure it was supposed to be ambiguous. Kiriyama looked like he was smirking as she attempted to seduce him, and sure took his time with killing her. And his reaction to the ring was extreme for him, and he did seem to hesitate there. But he's later shown performing surgery on himself, suggesting that it was simply due to injury.


*** Calling it Pro-taliban is stretching it. Sure, they appears to be ending up in Afganistan, but where else to run when you a pinned as a terrorist organisation by one of the major military powers, thats not affraid to use it? I see it as lesser of two evils

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*** Calling it Pro-taliban Pro-Taliban is stretching it. Sure, they appears to be ending up in Afganistan, but where else is there to run when you a are pinned as a terrorist organisation organization by one of the major military powers, thats that's not affraid afraid to use it? that power? I see it as lesser of two evilsevils.


* In the manga, what exactly was up with Kiriyama's reactions to Mitsuko's Magic Emily ring? Did it have to do with all the stuff Mitsuko in her delirium touching a nerve deep down in his subconscious? Or was it something LostInTranslation?

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* In the manga, what exactly was up with Kiriyama's reactions to Mitsuko's Magic Emily ring? Did it have to do with all the stuff Mitsuko saying in her delirium touching a nerve deep down in his subconscious? Or was it something LostInTranslation?


** They don't care, at all, about killing innocent law abiding citizens. The entire purpose of the game is to show people that you can't trust anybody. This prevents people from starting a rebellion against the government. They likely don't particularly care about regular street level crime.

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** They don't care, at all, about killing innocent law abiding citizens. The entire purpose of the game is to show people that you can't trust anybody. This prevents people from starting a rebellion against the government. They likely don't particularly care about regular street level crime.crime.
* In the manga, what exactly was up with Kiriyama's reactions to Mitsuko's Magic Emily ring? Did it have to do with all the stuff Mitsuko in her delirium touching a nerve deep down in his subconscious? Or was it something LostInTranslation?


* The fact that they're putting in classes of students and having them kill each other. Aside from the fact that this could likely lead to the killing of innocent (or at least law-abiding) kids for scare tactics seems silly, when they could just round up any delinquents they could find or know about and have them fight instead. If anything, that'd probably be an even bigger deterrent for criminal activity.

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* The fact that they're putting in classes of students and having them kill each other. Aside from the fact that this could likely lead to the killing of innocent (or at least law-abiding) kids for scare tactics seems silly, when they could just round up any delinquents they could find or know about and have them fight instead. If anything, that'd probably be an even bigger deterrent for criminal activity.activity.
** They don't care, at all, about killing innocent law abiding citizens. The entire purpose of the game is to show people that you can't trust anybody. This prevents people from starting a rebellion against the government. They likely don't particularly care about regular street level crime.

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