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** Media frequently [[AcceptableTargets depict the French]] as [[FrenchJerk intensely chauvinistic]] about their culture, and often holding their language as [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench superior, if not outright perfect]] (consider that they were '''the''' ''[[/CommonTongue lingua franca]]'' for centuries). An upstart scholar would be judged accordingly by a Frenchman like Mole.
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** Media frequently [[AcceptableTargets depict the French]] as [[FrenchJerk intensely chauvinistic]] about their culture, and often holding their language as [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench superior, if not outright perfect]] (consider that they were '''the''' ''[[/CommonTongue ''[[CommonTongue lingua franca]]'' for centuries). An upstart scholar would be judged accordingly by a Frenchman like Mole.
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**Media frequently [[AcceptableTargets depict the French]] as [[FrenchJerk intensely chauvinistic]] about their culture, and often holding their language as [[EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench superior, if not outright perfect]] (consider that they were '''the''' ''[[/CommonTongue lingua franca]]'' for centuries). An upstart scholar would be judged accordingly by a Frenchman like Mole.
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** Atlanteans, no. The ''crystal''--um, yeah. Atlanteans have access to extremely advanced technology, including non-propelled flight, powered by the crystal. It's highly possible that Ye Olde Ancestral Atlanteans built the Leviathan and "turned it on" just like they turned on those fish speeders, and the crystal made it quasi-sentient because it was intended as a guardian. The full body of the Leviathan has the same blue life line markings as the Atlantean people do.
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** Atlanteans, no. The ''crystal''--um, yeah. Atlanteans have access to extremely advanced technology, including non-propelled flight, powered by the crystal. It's highly possible that Ye Olde Ancestral Atlanteans built the Leviathan and "turned it on" just like they turned on those fish speeders, and the crystal made it quasi-sentient because it was intended as a guardian. The full body of the Leviathan has the same blue life line markings as the Atlantean people do.do.
* Generally knowledge becomes lost because those who had it die out without passing it on. The Atlanteans are effectively immortal. What, everyone ''forgot how to read''? Why?
** Wrath of the Gods?
** [[HolyIsNotSafe Probably out of fear of the same knowledge and technology that destroyed their civilizations]]. Likely the King suppressed all forms of knowledge for fear that some upstart could discover the secret of the Heart of Atlantis and cause yet ''another'' disaster. Therefore, the Atlantis that we see is losing all knowledge of its own cultural identity, its people are kept blissfully ignorant of their own cultural identity, and very likely have forgotten, or never even learnt, how to read in the nearly 9000 years since the flood.
*** The [[AllThereInTheManual Summer 2001 issue of Disney Adventures]] mentioned that he had the library closed off.
** The ''royal'' Atlanteans are effectively immortal, aging extremely slowly and having extremely long lifespans, presumably because the crystal needs them, but the commoners are never stated or implied to be the same. Besides, Atlantis would be grossly overpopulated if that were the case, since Atlantean children are shown. Also, Kida was very young when Atlantis sank, so it's possible she never learned to read while the rest of Atlantis forgot over generations, and it's no stretch the king made decrees which Kida was too young to remember.
* How could Rourke have known which page of the Shepard's Journal, that contains the exact details of the "Heart of Atlantis", to tear out if Milo's the one that can read Atlantean?
** Illustrations on the page?
*** Agreed. That page had a great big shiny star-diamond thing on it that took up almost half the illustration. It's not hard to figure that's the most important moneymaker in the quest.
** Milo didn't learn Atlantean in a vacuum -- his grandfather, Rourke's old companion from the Iceland expedition, taught it to him. There's every possibility the elder Thatcher inadvertently told Rourke of the importance of that section of the journal.
* When Milo slides off the blackboard at the beginning to take care of the boiler, the chalk stays on. But when he slides off the second time, he indeed does clean it off.
* So the movie needs a group of heroes for the finale, but is it not out of character that the mercenaries are suddenly squeamish about making the biggest payday of their lives? How is killing people not part and parcel of a mercenary expedition like this? Did they not ever expect to kill anyone as mercenaries?
** Probably because it involves mass genocide instead of open combat or grave robbery of a long dead civilization.
*** Especially if the aforementioned civilization is considered by the rest of the world to be pretty much nonexistent and therefore will not be missed.
** Even most mercenary companies, who accept that they will be killing enemy soldiers just to get rich, generally recognize that it's not ''right'' to strand non-combatants in a situation that will inevitably kill them. EvenEvilHasStandards / EveryoneHasStandards is pretty common for a reason.
** Not to mention that when they are received by the Atlanteans, Helga says that there weren't supposed to be people in Atlantis and that that changes everything for the operation. She even looks a bit unpleased when Rourke just says it will all remain the same.
** Given Vinny's KirkSummation to Rourke, and Milo's attitude when he calls Rourke a mercenary, it's entirely possible that's just an insult. The majority of the group seems to be glorified thieves rather than actual guns for hire.
* Kida mentions to her father that the previous kings would weep if they could see how Atlantis has fallen, and later she falls to her knees to pray to their stones around the Crystal. But, Kida's 8500 - 8800 years old and she looks like she's in her late teens - early twenties - how old is her dad? And how old were "the kings of our past" - how long has Atlantis been around?!?!
** King Kashekim is apparently about 27,000 years old, according to official material, and there's eight or so carved faces around the crystal. Assuming they're all previous kings, and lived as long as Kashekim... Something tells me that after Atlantis surfaces in the sequel, the history of the evolution of man is going to need a little reworking...
** There's nothing that says the other kings had the same longevity. Some of them must pre-date the crystal itself at the very least. Others may have died in battle, Atlantis being notoriously belligerent. There's just not enough details to assume that Atlantis itself is hundreds of thousands of years old.
* Why did the Crystal even need a person to fuse with? Especially the second time, when fusing with Kida only made the situation worse by making the Crystal able to be captured (it didn't even fight back or anything). And why did the Crystal give back Kida at the end, when it didn't give back her mother? Why ''didn't'' it give back her mother?
** Her mother was connected to it for too long. The king said that if "Kida remains bonded to the crystal for too long, she will be lost to it... Forever." So presumably her mom was just bonded to it for a bit too long when it sank the city and the crystal just absorbed her.
** That, and with Kida, all it needed to do was turn on the shield. With her mother, it had to turn on the shield, sink the city, create an air bubble in the upper mantle, AND generate an endless supply of fresh, drinkable water. Logically, the latter would require a lot more power than just activating the guardians for the shield.
* Generally knowledge becomes lost because those who had it die out without passing it on. The Atlanteans are effectively immortal. What, everyone ''forgot how to read''? Why?
** Wrath of the Gods?
** [[HolyIsNotSafe Probably out of fear of the same knowledge and technology that destroyed their civilizations]]. Likely the King suppressed all forms of knowledge for fear that some upstart could discover the secret of the Heart of Atlantis and cause yet ''another'' disaster. Therefore, the Atlantis that we see is losing all knowledge of its own cultural identity, its people are kept blissfully ignorant of their own cultural identity, and very likely have forgotten, or never even learnt, how to read in the nearly 9000 years since the flood.
*** The [[AllThereInTheManual Summer 2001 issue of Disney Adventures]] mentioned that he had the library closed off.
** The ''royal'' Atlanteans are effectively immortal, aging extremely slowly and having extremely long lifespans, presumably because the crystal needs them, but the commoners are never stated or implied to be the same. Besides, Atlantis would be grossly overpopulated if that were the case, since Atlantean children are shown. Also, Kida was very young when Atlantis sank, so it's possible she never learned to read while the rest of Atlantis forgot over generations, and it's no stretch the king made decrees which Kida was too young to remember.
* How could Rourke have known which page of the Shepard's Journal, that contains the exact details of the "Heart of Atlantis", to tear out if Milo's the one that can read Atlantean?
** Illustrations on the page?
*** Agreed. That page had a great big shiny star-diamond thing on it that took up almost half the illustration. It's not hard to figure that's the most important moneymaker in the quest.
** Milo didn't learn Atlantean in a vacuum -- his grandfather, Rourke's old companion from the Iceland expedition, taught it to him. There's every possibility the elder Thatcher inadvertently told Rourke of the importance of that section of the journal.
* When Milo slides off the blackboard at the beginning to take care of the boiler, the chalk stays on. But when he slides off the second time, he indeed does clean it off.
* So the movie needs a group of heroes for the finale, but is it not out of character that the mercenaries are suddenly squeamish about making the biggest payday of their lives? How is killing people not part and parcel of a mercenary expedition like this? Did they not ever expect to kill anyone as mercenaries?
** Probably because it involves mass genocide instead of open combat or grave robbery of a long dead civilization.
*** Especially if the aforementioned civilization is considered by the rest of the world to be pretty much nonexistent and therefore will not be missed.
** Even most mercenary companies, who accept that they will be killing enemy soldiers just to get rich, generally recognize that it's not ''right'' to strand non-combatants in a situation that will inevitably kill them. EvenEvilHasStandards / EveryoneHasStandards is pretty common for a reason.
** Not to mention that when they are received by the Atlanteans, Helga says that there weren't supposed to be people in Atlantis and that that changes everything for the operation. She even looks a bit unpleased when Rourke just says it will all remain the same.
** Given Vinny's KirkSummation to Rourke, and Milo's attitude when he calls Rourke a mercenary, it's entirely possible that's just an insult. The majority of the group seems to be glorified thieves rather than actual guns for hire.
* Kida mentions to her father that the previous kings would weep if they could see how Atlantis has fallen, and later she falls to her knees to pray to their stones around the Crystal. But, Kida's 8500 - 8800 years old and she looks like she's in her late teens - early twenties - how old is her dad? And how old were "the kings of our past" - how long has Atlantis been around?!?!
** King Kashekim is apparently about 27,000 years old, according to official material, and there's eight or so carved faces around the crystal. Assuming they're all previous kings, and lived as long as Kashekim... Something tells me that after Atlantis surfaces in the sequel, the history of the evolution of man is going to need a little reworking...
** There's nothing that says the other kings had the same longevity. Some of them must pre-date the crystal itself at the very least. Others may have died in battle, Atlantis being notoriously belligerent. There's just not enough details to assume that Atlantis itself is hundreds of thousands of years old.
* Why did the Crystal even need a person to fuse with? Especially the second time, when fusing with Kida only made the situation worse by making the Crystal able to be captured (it didn't even fight back or anything). And why did the Crystal give back Kida at the end, when it didn't give back her mother? Why ''didn't'' it give back her mother?
** Her mother was connected to it for too long. The king said that if "Kida remains bonded to the crystal for too long, she will be lost to it... Forever." So presumably her mom was just bonded to it for a bit too long when it sank the city and the crystal just absorbed her.
** That, and with Kida, all it needed to do was turn on the shield. With her mother, it had to turn on the shield, sink the city, create an air bubble in the upper mantle, AND generate an endless supply of fresh, drinkable water. Logically, the latter would require a lot more power than just activating the guardians for the shield.
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*** He does question the ingredients he's given to Helga. Maybe he's not USED to whipping up long lasting but distasteful meals with the healthy 4 basic food groups, but who's to say he CAN'T? The previous expedition he's been on was in Iceland. That's not completely isolated from human society since there are plenty of villages were the crew can collect supplies and quality food. But a voyage to the depths of the sea and subterranean realms require lots of foods planned well ahead.
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!!The Sequel's Timeline
* The "sequel" takes place shortly after the Great Depression, yet ''all of the characters'' look unchanged (in age and appearance) from the movie? Milo now [[spoiler:being ageless]] is logical. But the crew?
** Sufficient exposure to the crystals imparting the same effect Milo got? Maybe you only have to be around them for a little while? And they DID get right up next to the thing, didn't they?
*** They were given crystal pendants as gifts when they were leaving, right? And the crystals have a "healing power" and made Whitmore feel "fifty years younger", and they are seen to be dimming as Rourke takes the Heart of Atlantis away from the city. It's fair to say that they grant the longevity that the Atlanteans enjoy.
** Also, what happened to [[TheHighQueen Kida's]] tattoos in the sequel?
*** Is it that the epilogue of the original movie takes place before the sequel, and that Atlanteans don't just have multiple, sometimes distant parts of the funerary/cornoation process for the once and present rulers? If it does definitely happen that way, maybe Kida's "tattoos" are just ceremonial paint that use the same pigment as her tattoos, and she won't collect the full range of royal tattoos until she has been in the throne for a while, or [[DoubleStandard spontaneously and retroactively becomes male]].
** WordOfGod on the DVD commentary for the first film said the tattoos were nothing but a giant pain in the arse, continuity-wise. Removing them in the sequel was probably just to make it easier.
** The crystal shards have healing power, so Kida could have removed the tattoos she put on at her ceremony. She may have done that do symbolize that she doesn't want her status as queen to distance her from her people.
* The "sequel" takes place shortly after the Great Depression, yet ''all of the characters'' look unchanged (in age and appearance) from the movie? Milo now [[spoiler:being ageless]] is logical. But the crew?
** Sufficient exposure to the crystals imparting the same effect Milo got? Maybe you only have to be around them for a little while? And they DID get right up next to the thing, didn't they?
*** They were given crystal pendants as gifts when they were leaving, right? And the crystals have a "healing power" and made Whitmore feel "fifty years younger", and they are seen to be dimming as Rourke takes the Heart of Atlantis away from the city. It's fair to say that they grant the longevity that the Atlanteans enjoy.
** Also, what happened to [[TheHighQueen Kida's]] tattoos in the sequel?
*** Is it that the epilogue of the original movie takes place before the sequel, and that Atlanteans don't just have multiple, sometimes distant parts of the funerary/cornoation process for the once and present rulers? If it does definitely happen that way, maybe Kida's "tattoos" are just ceremonial paint that use the same pigment as her tattoos, and she won't collect the full range of royal tattoos until she has been in the throne for a while, or [[DoubleStandard spontaneously and retroactively becomes male]].
** WordOfGod on the DVD commentary for the first film said the tattoos were nothing but a giant pain in the arse, continuity-wise. Removing them in the sequel was probably just to make it easier.
** The crystal shards have healing power, so Kida could have removed the tattoos she put on at her ceremony. She may have done that do symbolize that she doesn't want her status as queen to distance her from her people.
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* The "sequel" takes place shortly after the Great Depression, yet ''all of the characters'' look unchanged (in age and appearance) from the movie? Milo now [[spoiler:being ageless]] is logical. But the crew?
** Sufficient exposure to the crystals imparting the same effect Milo got? Maybe you only have to be around them for a little while? And they DID get right up next to the thing, didn't they?
*** They were given crystal pendants as gifts when they were leaving, right? And the crystals have a "healing power" and made Whitmore feel "fifty years younger", and they are seen to be dimming as Rourke takes the Heart of Atlantis away from the city. It's fair to say that they grant the longevity that the Atlanteans enjoy.
** Also, what happened to [[TheHighQueen Kida's]] tattoos in the sequel?
*** Is it that the epilogue of the original movie takes place before the sequel, and that Atlanteans don't just have multiple, sometimes distant parts of the funerary/cornoation process for the once and present rulers? If it does definitely happen that way, maybe Kida's "tattoos" are just ceremonial paint that use the same pigment as her tattoos, and she won't collect the full range of royal tattoos until she has been in the throne for a while, or [[DoubleStandard spontaneously and retroactively becomes male]].
** WordOfGod on the DVD commentary for the first film said the tattoos were nothing but a giant pain in the arse, continuity-wise. Removing them in the sequel was probably just to make it easier.
** The crystal shards have healing power, so Kida could have removed the tattoos she put on at her ceremony. She may have done that do symbolize that she doesn't want her status as queen to distance her from her people.
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!!The Reception
* Why is the movie apparently so hated? It doesn't seem that different from most other Disney films, and I don't see any problems with it that stand out when compared to any other Disney film. The animation and voice acting (especially the involvement of [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Mike Mignola]] and Creator/CreeSummer) is top-knotch too.
** There are some people who don't like it because it is ''so'' different from ordinary Disney animation. Other people don't like the third act, which does have quite weak motivation for the characters.
** Some don't like it because it feels so [[Film/{{Stargate}} derivative]].
*** And others would merely like it if it wasn't so derivative, but love it because of the protohistory-[[PunkPunk punk]] feel and the Homage factor.
** Because you asked...I don't hate it, I just don't think it's very good. The issues I took with it are: weird pacing, a boring main lead, too many side characters, them not getting to Atlantis until halfway through, a confusing narrative, the villain's plan making no sense, and it being way too dark at certain points. It does feel like Disney was trying to make the movie more adult, but it only sort of worked.
** Part of it is really down to release timing. This film came out around the same time as ''WesternAnimation/Shrek1'' and ''Film/LaraCroftTombRaider''. In the animation department, ''Shrek'' made a stronger impression because it was fully CGI at a time when that was novel and had a more subversive, anti-Disney message at a time when Disney was coming off of its renaissance period. In the action department, ''Lara Croft'' was live action, based on a popular video game franchise, and more adult, all of which are more appealing to action fans. ''Atlantis'' as a result kind of got lost in the shuffle. The direct-to-video sequel failed to generate any incentive to make an animated series, killing it in the water.
*** Some of its reception is because it's a darker film and, for that matter, it's not a musical. As we all know, Disney's more known for more lighthearted films that're musicals.
* Why is the movie apparently so hated? It doesn't seem that different from most other Disney films, and I don't see any problems with it that stand out when compared to any other Disney film. The animation and voice acting (especially the involvement of [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Mike Mignola]] and Creator/CreeSummer) is top-knotch too.
** There are some people who don't like it because it is ''so'' different from ordinary Disney animation. Other people don't like the third act, which does have quite weak motivation for the characters.
** Some don't like it because it feels so [[Film/{{Stargate}} derivative]].
*** And others would merely like it if it wasn't so derivative, but love it because of the protohistory-[[PunkPunk punk]] feel and the Homage factor.
** Because you asked...I don't hate it, I just don't think it's very good. The issues I took with it are: weird pacing, a boring main lead, too many side characters, them not getting to Atlantis until halfway through, a confusing narrative, the villain's plan making no sense, and it being way too dark at certain points. It does feel like Disney was trying to make the movie more adult, but it only sort of worked.
** Part of it is really down to release timing. This film came out around the same time as ''WesternAnimation/Shrek1'' and ''Film/LaraCroftTombRaider''. In the animation department, ''Shrek'' made a stronger impression because it was fully CGI at a time when that was novel and had a more subversive, anti-Disney message at a time when Disney was coming off of its renaissance period. In the action department, ''Lara Croft'' was live action, based on a popular video game franchise, and more adult, all of which are more appealing to action fans. ''Atlantis'' as a result kind of got lost in the shuffle. The direct-to-video sequel failed to generate any incentive to make an animated series, killing it in the water.
*** Some of its reception is because it's a darker film and, for that matter, it's not a musical. As we all know, Disney's more known for more lighthearted films that're musicals.
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* Why is the movie apparently so hated? It doesn't seem that different from most other Disney films, and I don't see any problems with it that stand out when compared to any other Disney film. The animation and voice acting (especially the involvement of [[ComicBook/{{Hellboy}} Mike Mignola]] and Creator/CreeSummer) is top-knotch too.
** There are some people who don't like it because it is ''so'' different from ordinary Disney animation. Other people don't like the third act, which does have quite weak motivation for the characters.
** Some don't like it because it feels so [[Film/{{Stargate}} derivative]].
*** And others would merely like it if it wasn't so derivative, but love it because of the protohistory-[[PunkPunk punk]] feel and the Homage factor.
** Because you asked...I don't hate it, I just don't think it's very good. The issues I took with it are: weird pacing, a boring main lead, too many side characters, them not getting to Atlantis until halfway through, a confusing narrative, the villain's plan making no sense, and it being way too dark at certain points. It does feel like Disney was trying to make the movie more adult, but it only sort of worked.
** Part of it is really down to release timing. This film came out around the same time as ''WesternAnimation/Shrek1'' and ''Film/LaraCroftTombRaider''. In the animation department, ''Shrek'' made a stronger impression because it was fully CGI at a time when that was novel and had a more subversive, anti-Disney message at a time when Disney was coming off of its renaissance period. In the action department, ''Lara Croft'' was live action, based on a popular video game franchise, and more adult, all of which are more appealing to action fans. ''Atlantis'' as a result kind of got lost in the shuffle. The direct-to-video sequel failed to generate any incentive to make an animated series, killing it in the water.
*** Some of its reception is because it's a darker film and, for that matter, it's not a musical. As we all know, Disney's more known for more lighthearted films that're musicals.
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* How is above mentioned scene "infamous"?
** It's the ''only'' one of its kind to be be fully colorized and animated, as it was only after that scene was fully animated that the decision was made to replace it.
*** Plus it was used in the computer game.
** And for some reason, the Leviathan in this scene has tentacles. Why does the Leviathan have tentacles? It's supposed to be a giant mechanical lobster, and [[ArtisticLicenseBiology lobsters don't have tentacles!]]
*** The Leviathan has retractable tentacles directly below its eyes. The tentacles come together to fire the beam weapon which can be seen in the scene where it destroys the ''Ulysses''. Energy is channeled through each tentacle, and when all of that energy is combined...''BOOM!'' The fact that the Viking longship is so small (relative to the Leviathan) is probably why the tentacles are actually used as tentacles (if the thing just smashed the longship with a pincer, the scene would be over in two seconds flat). As for lobsters not having tentacles, the Leviathan is ''based on'' a lobster, but is not meant to be a perfectly accurate 1000x scale model of one (it has two sets of pincers, its head can move without turning the entire cephalothorax, its tail is different from a real lobster's, etc.).
!!Merch Stuff
* Anyone notice that Rourke (and to a much lesser extent, Helga) is the ''only'' character from the film to actually still appear in the merchandise? Why did Disney still want to market him instead of everyone else from the film? They actually did [[SublimeRhyme the same thing]] with [[WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron the Horned King.]]
** Poor box office reception. Hence in Rourke went.
** It's the ''only'' one of its kind to be be fully colorized and animated, as it was only after that scene was fully animated that the decision was made to replace it.
*** Plus it was used in the computer game.
** And for some reason, the Leviathan in this scene has tentacles. Why does the Leviathan have tentacles? It's supposed to be a giant mechanical lobster, and [[ArtisticLicenseBiology lobsters don't have tentacles!]]
*** The Leviathan has retractable tentacles directly below its eyes. The tentacles come together to fire the beam weapon which can be seen in the scene where it destroys the ''Ulysses''. Energy is channeled through each tentacle, and when all of that energy is combined...''BOOM!'' The fact that the Viking longship is so small (relative to the Leviathan) is probably why the tentacles are actually used as tentacles (if the thing just smashed the longship with a pincer, the scene would be over in two seconds flat). As for lobsters not having tentacles, the Leviathan is ''based on'' a lobster, but is not meant to be a perfectly accurate 1000x scale model of one (it has two sets of pincers, its head can move without turning the entire cephalothorax, its tail is different from a real lobster's, etc.).
!!Merch Stuff
* Anyone notice that Rourke (and to a much lesser extent, Helga) is the ''only'' character from the film to actually still appear in the merchandise? Why did Disney still want to market him instead of everyone else from the film? They actually did [[SublimeRhyme the same thing]] with [[WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron the Horned King.]]
** Poor box office reception. Hence in Rourke went.
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* How is above mentioned scene "infamous"?
** It's the ''only'' one of its kind to be be fully colorized and animated, as it was only after that scene was fully animated that the decision was made to replace it.
*** Plus it was used in the computer game.
** And for some reason, the Leviathan in this scene has tentacles.Why does the Leviathan have tentacles? It's supposed to be a giant mechanical lobster, and [[ArtisticLicenseBiology lobsters don't have tentacles!]]
*** ** The Leviathan has retractable tentacles directly below its eyes. The tentacles come together to fire the beam weapon which can be seen in the scene where it destroys the ''Ulysses''. Energy is channeled through each tentacle, and when all of that energy is combined...''BOOM!'' The fact that the Viking longship is so small (relative to the Leviathan) is probably why the tentacles are actually used as tentacles (if the thing just smashed the longship with a pincer, the scene would be over in two seconds flat). As for lobsters not having tentacles, the Leviathan is ''based on'' a lobster, but is not meant to be a perfectly accurate 1000x scale model of one (it has two sets of pincers, its head can move without turning the entire cephalothorax, its tail is different from a real lobster's, etc.).
!!Merch Stuff
* Anyone notice that Rourke (and to a much lesser extent, Helga) is the ''only'' character from the film to actually still appear in the merchandise? Why did Disney still want to market him instead of everyone else from the film? They actually did [[SublimeRhyme the same thing]] with [[WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron the Horned King.]]
** Poor box office reception. Hence in Rourke went.).
** It's the ''only'' one of its kind to be be fully colorized and animated, as it was only after that scene was fully animated that the decision was made to replace it.
*** Plus it was used in the computer game.
** And for some reason, the Leviathan in this scene has tentacles.
!!Merch Stuff
* Anyone notice that Rourke (and to a much lesser extent, Helga) is the ''only'' character from the film to actually still appear in the merchandise? Why did Disney still want to market him instead of everyone else from the film? They actually did [[SublimeRhyme the same thing]] with [[WesternAnimation/TheBlackCauldron the Horned King.]]
** Poor box office reception. Hence in Rourke went.
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* The Leviathan is not shown to be manually operated like the other Atlantean machines, and is apparently capable of acting autonomously. The sequel even mentions that the Leviathan could recognize the crew as non-threats, as if it's able to distinguish between friend and foe. Are we to believe that the Atlanteans were able to unlock machine programing, some kind of AI, or possibly even give their Leviathans a certain degree of self-awareness?
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* The Leviathan is not shown to be manually operated like the other Atlantean machines, and is apparently capable of acting autonomously. The sequel even mentions that the Leviathan could recognize the crew as non-threats, as if it's able to distinguish between friend and foe. Are we to believe that the Atlanteans were able to unlock machine programing, programming, some kind of AI, or possibly even give their Leviathans a certain degree of self-awareness?self-awareness?
** Atlanteans, no. The ''crystal''--um, yeah. Atlanteans have access to extremely advanced technology, including non-propelled flight, powered by the crystal. It's highly possible that Ye Olde Ancestral Atlanteans built the Leviathan and "turned it on" just like they turned on those fish speeders, and the crystal made it quasi-sentient because it was intended as a guardian. The full body of the Leviathan has the same blue life line markings as the Atlantean people do.
** Atlanteans, no. The ''crystal''--um, yeah. Atlanteans have access to extremely advanced technology, including non-propelled flight, powered by the crystal. It's highly possible that Ye Olde Ancestral Atlanteans built the Leviathan and "turned it on" just like they turned on those fish speeders, and the crystal made it quasi-sentient because it was intended as a guardian. The full body of the Leviathan has the same blue life line markings as the Atlantean people do.
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*** To further clarify: the subtitles use digits and say "8,500-8,800 years old."
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** Part of it is really down to release timing. This film came out around the same time as ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'' and ''Film/LaraCroftTombRaider''. In the animation department, ''Shrek'' made a stronger impression because it was fully CGI at a time when that was novel and had a more subversive, anti-Disney message at a time when Disney was coming off of its renaissance period. In the action department, ''Lara Croft'' was live action, based on a popular video game franchise, and more adult, all of which are more appealing to action fans. ''Atlantis'' as a result kind of got lost in the shuffle. The direct-to-video sequel failed to generate any incentive to make an animated series, killing it in the water.
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** Part of it is really down to release timing. This film came out around the same time as ''WesternAnimation/{{Shrek}}'' ''WesternAnimation/Shrek1'' and ''Film/LaraCroftTombRaider''. In the animation department, ''Shrek'' made a stronger impression because it was fully CGI at a time when that was novel and had a more subversive, anti-Disney message at a time when Disney was coming off of its renaissance period. In the action department, ''Lara Croft'' was live action, based on a popular video game franchise, and more adult, all of which are more appealing to action fans. ''Atlantis'' as a result kind of got lost in the shuffle. The direct-to-video sequel failed to generate any incentive to make an animated series, killing it in the water.
