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** Mostly true. However, early on, he didn't even use it when talking to Detective Lance (see ep.3 for example), y'know, ''his ex's (exes'? TooSoon?) father''. How Lance, who by this time had previously seen the Hood's chin, didn't make the connection at this point, is anyone's guess (yeah, I know, see ClarkKenting and all, but still.). As for why he doesn't have it turned on all the time, hey, he already loses enough time putting on the suit and that damn eye 'makeup, if he knows it's not necessary, that's a few seconds that can help [[BigDamnHeroes save someone's life.]]

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** Mostly true. However, early on, he didn't even use it when talking to Detective Lance (see ep.3 for example), y'know, ''his ex's (exes'? TooSoon?) (exes'?) father''. How Lance, who by this time had previously seen the Hood's chin, didn't make the connection at this point, is anyone's guess (yeah, I know, see ClarkKenting and all, but still.). As for why he doesn't have it turned on all the time, hey, he already loses enough time putting on the suit and that damn eye 'makeup, if he knows it's not necessary, that's a few seconds that can help [[BigDamnHeroes save someone's life.]]

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*When Sara guest-stars on Arrow, she has her trademark gimmick from when she was a main character in Arrow, which naturally raises two questions: Why doesn't she use it in Legends, and why doesn't the current Black Canary use it after losing her powers? Especially the handy choker version Laurel used.

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** Just like how Diaz got away at the end of the last season, this seems to be less about them being karma houdinis and more setting them up for the final season with their new leader, Beatrice. Only time will tell.

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* So Emiko dies and the city is saved and that's it? Why hasn't Team Arrow gone after Virgil and the rest of the ninth circle? Those kind of Karma Houdini's are so annoying and unrealistic.

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** But it's still quite ridiculous, considering they never stop to think what the original Laurel would think of her, and plus her suddenly changing is just stupid after she chose to work with monsters like Zoom and Prometheus.

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** Well, whether it makes sense or not, there *is* an emotional aspect to it. She is literally a doppelganger of a close friend and teammate - in Oliver's case, a person whom he "loved for half his life". And for Lance of course, she was his daughter - as he told Oliver "this parallel universe crap is *crap*. So they would certainly like to believe that she can be redeemed, and in that way, honor the original Laurel. They are also trying to honor Lance, wh believed that Laurel could change. And she *did* spend most of Season 7 helping the team, including and especially getting Oliver out of prison, and helping the team get deputized. So the team hoping for redemption for Laurel is not *that* far-fetched.

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[[folder: The whole redemption for Black Siren thing]]
* Why does nobody ever stop to think of the possibility that nobody would really care about her if the original Laurel were alive? It all really even seems insensitive that they're apparently trying to replace her.

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*** As of Season 7, Bronze Tiger was revealed to have a son named Connor who was also referred to as a "Little Hawk"

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**Not totally true. She swore she would get vengeance on the cabal starting with Black Siren.


* Simple answer: he's paying her. Or, more precisely, offering her an equal share in a $70 million payday. She turns on him now, she loses that.

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* ** Simple answer: he's paying her. Or, more precisely, offering her an equal share in a $70 million payday. She turns on him now, she loses that.



There's several problems with the whole scenario depicted in 6x14. Namely...



* Regardless of precisely when Black Siren stole the money, there is no logical reason for her to have come back to Star City. If she came back while James was still alive, she risked his finding out about her treachery. If she came back after his death, she risked running afoul of her former allies and Team Arrow.

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* ** Regardless of precisely when Black Siren stole the money, there is no logical reason for her to have come back to Star City. If she came back while James was still alive, she risked his finding out about her treachery. If she came back after his death, she risked running afoul of her former allies and Team Arrow.



* It's also odd that nobody on Team Arrow thinks to question the footage from the bank and make sure it is legitimate, given their recent troubles with faked video footage being responsible for framing Green Arrow for the murder of Cayden James's son.
* And all of this is completely pointless since there's no way Black Siren should have been able to have stolen the money after Cayden James' death, since she spent the entire time immediately after James' capture being held captive by Quentin Lance in his cabin in the woods.

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* ** It's also odd that nobody on Team Arrow thinks to question the footage from the bank and make sure it is legitimate, given their recent troubles with faked video footage being responsible for framing Green Arrow for the murder of Cayden James's son.
* ** And all of this is completely pointless since there's no way Black Siren should have been able to have stolen the money after Cayden James' death, since she spent the entire time immediately after James' capture being held captive by Quentin Lance in his cabin in the woods.



[[folder: Diaz's Plan For Roy Harper Makes No Sense.]]

Ricardo Diaz somehow learns that Roy Harper is alive and well. He manages to track him down and capture him. He brings him back to Star City with the intent of torturing him into testifying against Oliver Queen as part of his master-plan to see Oliver Queen formally charged with being The Green Arrow, disgraced, removed from office and sent to prison.

Why does he need to go through that much effort?

As far as the world at large is concerned, Roy Harper was The Arrow/The Hood/The Starling City Vigilante and was killed in prison. Bringing him in alive and revealing that fact to the world would have been just as effective as bringing Roy in to testify against Oliver. Heck, it would have been even more effective since the law requires a prosecuting attorney to share all their evidence with the defense attorney. Calling a press conference and revealing that everything about Oliver Queen's story regarding why he can't be The Green Arrow is a lie would have left him scrambling and condemned the one person who gave him any legitimacy, Deputy Mayor Quentin Lance - the former lead investigator on the previous cases where Oliver Queen was accused of vigilantism!

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Ricardo Diaz somehow learns that Roy Harper is alive and well. He manages to track him down and capture him. He brings him back to Star City with the intent of torturing him into testifying against Oliver Queen as part of his master-plan to see Oliver Queen formally charged with being The Green Arrow, disgraced, removed from office and sent to prison.

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Why does he need to go through that much effort?

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As far as the world at large is concerned, Roy Harper was The Arrow/The Hood/The Starling City Vigilante and was killed in prison. Bringing him in alive and revealing that fact to the world would have been just as effective as bringing Roy in to testify against Oliver. Heck, it would have been even more effective since the law requires a prosecuting attorney to share all their evidence with the defense attorney. Calling a press conference and revealing that everything about Oliver Queen's story regarding why he can't be The Green Arrow is a lie would have left him scrambling and condemned the one person who gave him any legitimacy, Deputy Mayor Quentin Lance - the former lead investigator on the previous cases where Oliver Queen was accused of vigilantism!
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Black Siren says that Ricardo Diaz is the most frightening man she's ever known because he burned his childhood bully alive.

Consider Black Siren's last three bosses and laugh at how desperate the writers are to make Diaz seem like a threat.

More frightening than Zoom - the super-speedster serial killer who conquered an entire Earth and ripped his followers hearts out for questioning him or failing him?

More frightening than Prometheus - the man who killed hundreds of people (including his own wife) and subverted an entire city government for the sake of a grudge?

More frightening than Cayden James, who was ready to bleed a city dry and see its people starve to death before blowing it up to avenge his son?

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* Black Siren says that Ricardo Diaz is the most frightening man she's ever known because he burned his childhood bully alive.

alive. Consider Black Siren's last three bosses and laugh at how desperate the writers are to make Diaz seem like a threat.

threat. More frightening than Zoom - the super-speedster serial killer who conquered an entire Earth and ripped his followers hearts out for questioning him or failing him?

him? More frightening than Prometheus - the man who killed hundreds of people (including his own wife) and subverted an entire city government for the sake of a grudge?

grudge? More frightening than Cayden James, who was ready to bleed a city dry and see its people starve to death before blowing it up to avenge his son?



* It seems most bizarre in comparison to Zoom, who wanted to, and very nearly, destroy the entire multiverse sans Earth 1.

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* ** It seems most bizarre in comparison to Zoom, who wanted to, and very nearly, destroy the entire multiverse sans Earth 1.



In ''[[Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS1E6StarCity2046 Star City 2046]]'', it is said that ultimately Grant Wilson is the one who outs Oliver as the Green Arrow. Here, we see that he publicly outs himself. I know it's easy to explain away all time travel continuity errors on [[AWizardDidIt Flashpoint]], but given that John Jr. exists in this future who was only created ''from'' Flashpoint to begin with (which hadn't yet happened when that episode aired), I'm not sure we really can in this case. However, in that same episode we ''also'' heard Old!Oliver say that Ray and Sara never returned after first joining the Legends, which also obviously was later proven false during the annual crossovers as well as of course when Sara returns here in "Life Sentence". Maybe these changes to the original timeline changed what happens here? I dunno, this hurts my head.
* Given that Oliver has some sort of revolving door or disbelief in that city Grant revealing him as the Arrow years later after he was supposedly dead is. . .less implausible than other things we've seen. I think John Diggle Jr from Flashpoint and appearing in Star City 2046 is a serious case of writers failing uphill. Either that or they noticed they needed him and used Flashpoint to bring him in. The final one starts becoming a matter of semantics. He said they never came back but given that clearly Legends works on some version of San Dimas Time so them popping into to help or ask for help once a year didn't qualify to him as coming back. He meant they never came home and stayed. A bit of a stretch but between Flash's and the Legend's Gideon the fact that nobody has even suggested we get spoilers for seasons now through forever is silly. Even if they'd get talked down with one of those "nobody should know too much" speeches nobody has even brought it up.
* There is absolutely nothing to indicate that the future timeline in 'Star City 2046' is still the future the Arrowverse is heading towards. It was always stated as being a 'possible future', and a number of time-travel events have occurred since then that could have altered that timeline and prevented that future from occurring - Flashpoint, Time Abberations and Anachronisms, the Legends numerous returns to the present-day, and so on. John Jr. being born in the Post-Flashpoint timeline doesn't necessarily mean he becomes the same Connor Hawke whom the Legends met in 2046. Grant Wilson, in any case, would have have been born before the Legends traveled to the future, so he would exist in any future timeline.

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* In ''[[Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS1E6StarCity2046 Star City 2046]]'', it is said that ultimately Grant Wilson is the one who outs Oliver as the Green Arrow. Here, we see that he publicly outs himself. I know it's easy to explain away all time travel continuity errors on [[AWizardDidIt Flashpoint]], but given that John Jr. exists in this future who was only created ''from'' Flashpoint to begin with (which hadn't yet happened when that episode aired), I'm not sure we really can in this case. However, in that same episode we ''also'' heard Old!Oliver say that Ray and Sara never returned after first joining the Legends, which also obviously was later proven false during the annual crossovers as well as of course when Sara returns here in "Life Sentence". Maybe these changes to the original timeline changed what happens here? I dunno, this hurts my head.
* ** Given that Oliver has some sort of revolving door or disbelief in that city Grant revealing him as the Arrow years later after he was supposedly dead is. . .less implausible than other things we've seen. I think John Diggle Jr from Flashpoint and appearing in Star City 2046 is a serious case of writers failing uphill. Either that or they noticed they needed him and used Flashpoint to bring him in. The final one starts becoming a matter of semantics. He said they never came back but given that clearly Legends works on some version of San Dimas Time so them popping into to help or ask for help once a year didn't qualify to him as coming back. He meant they never came home and stayed. A bit of a stretch but between Flash's and the Legend's Gideon the fact that nobody has even suggested we get spoilers for seasons now through forever is silly. Even if they'd get talked down with one of those "nobody should know too much" speeches nobody has even brought it up.
* ** There is absolutely nothing to indicate that the future timeline in 'Star City 2046' is still the future the Arrowverse is heading towards. It was always stated as being a 'possible future', and a number of time-travel events have occurred since then that could have altered that timeline and prevented that future from occurring - Flashpoint, Time Abberations and Anachronisms, the Legends numerous returns to the present-day, and so on. John Jr. being born in the Post-Flashpoint timeline doesn't necessarily mean he becomes the same Connor Hawke whom the Legends met in 2046. Grant Wilson, in any case, would have have been born before the Legends traveled to the future, so he would exist in any future timeline.



In season six, it was revealed that Diaz was the one who orchestrated everything that happened. But then how did he know about Oliver being the Green Arrow in the first place?

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* In season six, it was revealed that Diaz was the one who orchestrated everything that happened. But then how did he know about Oliver being the Green Arrow in the first place?



When Black Siren was going to kill Vigilante, Dinah just cried out "No" over and over. However, nothing was stopping her from using her powers. So, why didn't she use her own cry to stop Black Siren and Cayden James? Also, why was she more concerned with killing Black Siren than killing Cayden James, the person who ordered Vigilante's death in the first place?

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* When Black Siren was going to kill Vigilante, Dinah just cried out "No" over and over. However, nothing was stopping her from using her powers. So, why didn't she use her own cry to stop Black Siren and Cayden James? Also, why was she more concerned with killing Black Siren than killing Cayden James, the person who ordered Vigilante's death in the first place?

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When Black Siren was going to kill Vigilante, Dinah just cried out "No" over and over. However, nothing was stopping her from using her powers. So, why didn't she use her own cry to stop Black Siren and Cayden James? Also, why was she more concerned with killing Black Siren than killing Cayden James, the person who ordered Vigilante's death in the first place?

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[[folder: Diaz's knowledge of Oliver's secret identity]]
In season six, it was revealed that Diaz was the one who orchestrated everything that happened. But then how did he know about Oliver being the Green Arrow in the first place?

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* There is absolutely nothing to indicate that the future timeline in 'Star City 2046' is still the future the Arrowverse is heading towards. It was always stated as being a 'possible future', and a number of time-travel events have occurred since then that could have altered that timeline and prevented that future from occurring - Flashpoint, Time Abberations and Anachronisms, the Legends numerous returns to the present-day, and so on. John Jr. being born in the Post-Flashpoint timeline doesn't necessarily mean he becomes the same Connor Hawke whom the Legends met in 2046. Grant Wilson, in any case, would have have been born before the Legends traveled to the future, so he would exist in any future timeline.

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* Given that Oliver has some sort of revolving door or disbelief in that city Grant revealing him as the Arrow years later after he was supposedly dead is. . .less implausible than other things we've seen. I think John Diggle Jr from Flashpoint and appearing in Star City 2046 is a serious case of writers failing uphill. Either that or they noticed they needed him and used Flashpoint to bring him in. The final one starts becoming a matter of semantics. He said they never came back but given that clearly Legends works on some version of San Dimas Time so them popping into to help or ask for help once a year didn't qualify to him as coming back. He meant they never came home and stayed. A bit of a stretch but between Flash's and the Legend's Gideon the fact that nobody has even suggested we get spoilers for seasons now through forever is silly. Even if they'd get talked down with one of those "nobody should know too much" speeches nobody has even brought it up.



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** Much like S.H.I.E.L.D. it seems kinda foggy if Argus is under US or some UN shadow organization. It likely changes as the plot desires. That makes the easiest answer that it looked like Team Arrow was okay and they'd rather go deal with whatever is happening in other places because its a higher priority.


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** Benefit of the doubt to the writers. All three of those men would probably kill her. Diaz would make her wish she was dead.

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