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****Those files were wiped due to their solution for Moffett's logic bomb in the episode Moffett's Ghost. Any existing copies were wiped by Moffett before he fled. The duplicates created in the episode Mind of the Machine were destroyed along with the villians, at the end of that episode.


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*** A version of the protective alloy fitted to KITT in Knight Rider, maybe?
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*** As a final note, in the pilot Gabriella did mention that it would take over ''five years'' to rebuild it and during the test run when Moffat stole it that the Firm wasn't even ''supposed'' to be developing it at the time.
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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotorcraft#Stopped_rotors "future tech" ideas]] floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s from early sci-fi films that never got built.

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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotorcraft#Stopped_rotors "future tech" ideas]] floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like.[[https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/sikorsky-x-wing-projects.117/ Sikorsky X-Wing project]]. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s from early sci-fi films that never got built.
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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s from early sci-fi films that never got built.

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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotorcraft#Stopped_rotors "future tech" ideas ideas]] floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s from early sci-fi films that never got built.
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*** And whatever materials weren't stored in Airwolf's computers was in the computers and heads of the other people who worked on the project... all of which were present at the base in the pilot (talk about all eggs in one basket...) and were either destroyed or killed when Moffet stole Airwolf. If memory serves the only survivor of the attack was Archangel, who didn't get out unscathed - hence the cane and eyepatch.
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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s that never got built in the Fifties.

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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s from early sci-fi films that never got built in the Fifties.built.
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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like.

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*** A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like. Just think of it like those Big Wheel {{space station}}s that never got built in the Fifties.
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*** The idea of a jet helicopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like.

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*** The idea of a jet helicopter A jetcopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like.
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*** The idea of a jet helicopter with rotors that could be locked in place for supersonic flight was one of the "future tech" ideas floating about in TheEighties. The scriptwriters probably got the idea from ''International Combat Arms'' or the like.
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** [[RuleOfCool Why?]]
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*** As noted by Hawke, the Red Wolf's "creator" apparently didn't design the weapons system, given that he kept missing.

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*** As noted by Hawke, the Red Wolf's "creator" (Harlan Jenkins) apparently didn't design the weapons system, given that he kept missing.
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* Several episodes introduced other helicopters that were claimed to be as good, or even better, than Airwolf. We don't get to see them, because Hawke keeps blowing them out of the sky. Of course, the helicopters may be better, but it's still up to the pilot to actually fly the thing.

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* Several episodes introduced other helicopters that were claimed to be as good, or even better, than Airwolf. We don't get to see them, them any further, because Hawke keeps blowing them out of the sky. Of course, the helicopters may be better, but it's still up to the pilot to actually fly the thing.
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--> '''Stringfellow Hawke:''' The is '''no way''' that you designed Airwolf's weapons, with aim that bad!
--> '''Stringfellow Hawke, after the Red Wolf's "creator" misses and ends up shooting the mountainside:''' You just killed a mountain!

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--> '''Stringfellow Hawke:''' The is '''no way''' that you designed Airwolf's weapons, with aim that bad!
"Good shootin' there, hotshot - [[DeadpanSnarker You just killed the mountain.]]"
--> '''Stringfellow Hawke, after the Red Wolf's "creator" misses and ends up shooting the mountainside:''' You just killed a mountain!Hawke:''' "You know Harlan, anybody that shoots as ''lame'' as you, sure didn't design an Airwolf weapons system'''
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** You don't remember correctly. Airwolf's inventor stole it from the government. Hawke stole it back, and ransomed it for his POW brother, whom the government denies having any knowledge about. It's acknowledged in dialog that Hawke is simply desperate and his plan has a much larger chance of getting him thrown in federal prison with the key thrown away then actually working. Archangel sets up their working arrangement, where any information ever found on his brother will go straight to Hawke, while Hawke uses Airwolf to get things done for the FIRM. Archangel specifically says this is the only way the FIRM can actually use Airwolf because taking it back means having to turn it over to the Department of Defense, since the FIRM isn't allowed to develop explicit military assets (Arhcangel's original plan was to give Airwolf over to the military in exchange for the development cost and the first five produced, but this didn't work out since the prototype was stolen.) He uses this fact as leverage to keep the FIRM away from Hawke, and he keeps Hawke supplied with ordinance and whatever parts needed for Airwolf's upkeep. In point of fact, other parts of the government that Hawke has no such deal with are often a problem for all of them. Also, Airwolf is hard to spot on radar, (although in reality, it's impossible to really design a stealth helicopter on account of the rotors) has an entire suite of electronics for e-warfare, and even if picked up, is just one little blip in the entire sky.

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** You don't remember correctly. Airwolf's inventor stole it from the government. Hawke stole it back, and ransomed it for his POW brother, whom the government denies having any knowledge about. It's acknowledged in dialog that Hawke is simply desperate and his plan has a much larger chance of getting him thrown in federal prison with the key thrown away then than actually working. Archangel sets up their working arrangement, where any information ever found on his brother will go straight to Hawke, while Hawke uses Airwolf to get things done for the FIRM. Archangel specifically says this is the only way the FIRM can actually use Airwolf because taking it back means having to turn it over to the Department of Defense, since the FIRM isn't allowed to develop explicit military assets (Arhcangel's original plan was to give Airwolf over to the military in exchange for the development cost and the first five produced, but this didn't work out since the prototype was stolen.) He uses this fact as leverage to keep the FIRM away from Hawke, and he keeps Hawke supplied with ordinance and whatever parts needed for Airwolf's upkeep. In point of fact, other parts of the government that Hawke has no such deal with are often a problem for all of them. Also, Airwolf is hard to spot on radar, (although in reality, it's impossible to really design a stealth helicopter on account of the rotors) has an entire suite of electronics for e-warfare, and even if picked up, is just one little blip in the entire sky.
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*** And if I remember correct Hawke was the backup pilot in the development program. Thats why Archangel sent Hawke to steal Airwolf back in the firstplace.

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*** And if I remember correct Hawke was the backup pilot in the development program. Thats why Archangel sent Hawke to steal Airwolf back in the firstplace.first place.
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*** And if I remember correct Hawke was the backup pilot in the development program. Thats why Archangel sent Hawke to steal Airwolf back in the firstplace.
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*** It's been a while, but weren't the only plans for Airwolf actually stored ''in'' Airwolf's computer?
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***The only man who knew how to build it turned his coat immediately after the first one was introduced. Perhaps not an insurmountable hurdle, but a substantial one when coupled with the fact that they also couldn't reverse-engineer it until/unless Hawke gave it back.
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**It was downright impossible to shoot the exact spot, since you had to get a bullet directly down the fuel intake duct; not just hit the air-to-air refuelling probe, but actually get the bullet to go straight down it and enter the fuel tank. The only person to come close to doing this was Airwolf's creator, Dr. Moffat (who was completely crazy), and that was because he slid the barrel of his gun down the duct whilst play Russian roulette on the ground (in the Pilot Episode). Otherwise, it was like trying to shoot a gun and get the round to go straight down the barrel of your opponent's weapon whist flying at Mach 1+. In theory, all aircraft equipped for in-flight refuelling have this weakness, but in practice, it doesn't matter, since there are far more vulnerable areas on real aircraft. This may have been an attempt to establish just how invulnerable to gunfire Airwolf was. It does then beg the question; what material is light enough to be completely bullet proof, yet allow a helicopter to break the speed of sound? Might be FridgeBrilliance, in that it explains why The Firm couldn't knock together a whole fleet of Airwolves; it was made of {{Unobtainium}}.
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** [[DidNotDoTheResearch You don't remember correctly.]] Airwolf's inventor stole it from the government. Hawke stole it back, and ransomed it for his POW brother, whom the government denies having any knowledge about. It's acknowledged in dialog that Hawke is simply desperate and his plan has a much larger chance of getting him thrown in federal prison with the key thrown away then actually working. Archangel sets up their working arrangement, where any information ever found on his brother will go straight to Hawke, while Hawke uses Airwolf to get things done for the FIRM. Archangel specifically says this is the only way the FIRM can actually use Airwolf because taking it back means having to turn it over to the Department of Defense, since the FIRM isn't allowed to develop explicit military assets (Arhcangel's original plan was to give Airwolf over to the military in exchange for the development cost and the first five produced, but this didn't work out since the prototype was stolen.) He uses this fact as leverage to keep the FIRM away from Hawke, and he keeps Hawke supplied with ordinance and whatever parts needed for Airwolf's upkeep. In point of fact, other parts of the government that Hawke has no such deal with are often a problem for all of them. Also, Airwolf is hard to spot on radar, (although in reality, it's impossible to really design a stealth helicopter on account of the rotors) has an entire suite of electronics for e-warfare, and even if picked up, is just one little blip in the entire sky.

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** [[DidNotDoTheResearch You don't remember correctly.]] correctly. Airwolf's inventor stole it from the government. Hawke stole it back, and ransomed it for his POW brother, whom the government denies having any knowledge about. It's acknowledged in dialog that Hawke is simply desperate and his plan has a much larger chance of getting him thrown in federal prison with the key thrown away then actually working. Archangel sets up their working arrangement, where any information ever found on his brother will go straight to Hawke, while Hawke uses Airwolf to get things done for the FIRM. Archangel specifically says this is the only way the FIRM can actually use Airwolf because taking it back means having to turn it over to the Department of Defense, since the FIRM isn't allowed to develop explicit military assets (Arhcangel's original plan was to give Airwolf over to the military in exchange for the development cost and the first five produced, but this didn't work out since the prototype was stolen.) He uses this fact as leverage to keep the FIRM away from Hawke, and he keeps Hawke supplied with ordinance and whatever parts needed for Airwolf's upkeep. In point of fact, other parts of the government that Hawke has no such deal with are often a problem for all of them. Also, Airwolf is hard to spot on radar, (although in reality, it's impossible to really design a stealth helicopter on account of the rotors) has an entire suite of electronics for e-warfare, and even if picked up, is just one little blip in the entire sky.
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*** There were several episodes where radar ''did'' pick up Airwolf. They just couldn't figure out how something smaller than a jet could move so fast.


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* Several episodes introduced other helicopters that were claimed to be as good, or even better, than Airwolf. We don't get to see them, because Hawke keeps blowing them out of the sky. Of course, the helicopters may be better, but it's still up to the pilot to actually fly the thing.
* So... if a bullet hits a tiny protuberance at the front of the helicopter, it blows up. There are plenty of times Airwolf was shot at with machineguns. Not one has ever hit that spot? Seems unlikely.

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*** Yeah, it seemed obvious to this troper that Archangel knew exactly where Airwolf was, and could have had any number of hotshot pilots steal it, if that had been his goal. Letting Hawke "blackmail" him into providing him with a plausibly denial way of using Airwolf for his own purposes was a case of getting himself thrown into the briar patch. In return for fuel, spare parts, and the occasional nugget of info on Hawke's brother, he gets situations handled for him by a guy he can eventually throw to the wolves if necessary.

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*** Yeah, it seemed obvious to this troper that Archangel knew exactly where Airwolf was, and could have had any number of hotshot pilots steal it, if that had been his goal. Letting Hawke "blackmail" him into providing him with a plausibly denial way of using Airwolf for his own purposes was a case of getting himself thrown into the briar patch. In return for fuel, spare parts, and the occasional nugget of info on Hawke's brother, he gets situations handled for him by a guy he can eventually throw to the wolves if necessary. necessary.
**** There's also room for AlternateCharacterInterpretation here, it's just as easy to see Archangel as more or less on the level. From the way they interact in the premier, it's obvious he and Hawke go way back. The distrust Hawke has for him could have more to do with not knowing how much their friendship protects him from the demands of Archangel's job rather than being caused by specific incidents. Since it's obvious that Archangel ''could'' double-cross Hawke and find Airwolf if he really wanted (if nothing else, he could just use the satellite from the season one finale without warning Hawke like he did when someone else used it) the difference between the views is basically how far that protection goes. Hmmm, might be worth putting this on the main page...
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* It's always bugged me that the solution to so many varied problems was a supersonic helicopter.


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** Frankly, I can't believe that if they could BUILD a supersonic helicopter, that they would stop at only ONE.

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** [[DidNotDoTheResearch You don't remember correctly.]] Airwolf's inventor stole it from the government. Hawke stole it back, and ransomed it for his POW brother, whom the government denies having any knowledge about. It's acknowledged in dialog that Hawke is simply desperate and his plan has a much larger chance of getting him thrown in federal prison with the key thrown away then actually working. Archangel sets up their working arrangement, where any information ever found on his brother will go straight to Hawke, while Hawke uses Airwolf to get things done for the FIRM. Archangel specifically says this is the only way the FIRM can actually use Airwolf because taking it back means having to turn it over to the Department of Defense, since the FIRM isn't allowed to develop explicit military assets (Arhcangel's original plan was to give Airwolf over to the military in exchange for the development cost and the first five produced, but this didn't work out since the prototype was stolen.) He uses this fact as leverage to keep the FIRM away from Hawke, and he keeps Hawke supplied with ordinance and whatever parts needed for Airwolf's upkeep. In point of fact, other parts of the government that Hawke has no such deal with are often a problem for all of them. Also, Airwolf is hard to spot on radar, (although in reality, it's impossible to really design a stealth helicopter on account of the rotors) has an entire suite of electronics for e-warfare, and even if picked up, is just one little blip in the entire sky.

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** [[DidNotDoTheResearch You don't remember correctly.]] Airwolf's inventor stole it from the government. Hawke stole it back, and ransomed it for his POW brother, whom the government denies having any knowledge about. It's acknowledged in dialog that Hawke is simply desperate and his plan has a much larger chance of getting him thrown in federal prison with the key thrown away then actually working. Archangel sets up their working arrangement, where any information ever found on his brother will go straight to Hawke, while Hawke uses Airwolf to get things done for the FIRM. Archangel specifically says this is the only way the FIRM can actually use Airwolf because taking it back means having to turn it over to the Department of Defense, since the FIRM isn't allowed to develop explicit military assets (Arhcangel's original plan was to give Airwolf over to the military in exchange for the development cost and the first five produced, but this didn't work out since the prototype was stolen.) He uses this fact as leverage to keep the FIRM away from Hawke, and he keeps Hawke supplied with ordinance and whatever parts needed for Airwolf's upkeep. In point of fact, other parts of the government that Hawke has no such deal with are often a problem for all of them. Also, Airwolf is hard to spot on radar, (although in reality, it's impossible to really design a stealth helicopter on account of the rotors) has an entire suite of electronics for e-warfare, and even if picked up, is just one little blip in the entire sky.sky.
*** Yeah, it seemed obvious to this troper that Archangel knew exactly where Airwolf was, and could have had any number of hotshot pilots steal it, if that had been his goal. Letting Hawke "blackmail" him into providing him with a plausibly denial way of using Airwolf for his own purposes was a case of getting himself thrown into the briar patch. In return for fuel, spare parts, and the occasional nugget of info on Hawke's brother, he gets situations handled for him by a guy he can eventually throw to the wolves if necessary.

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