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* In hindsight, Countess Coloratura is a ShadowArchetype of what Applejack would've been if she hadn't quit her Apple Core gig in time to see how important her family was. In fact, her stunt as Apple Core may have served to second-hoof give Applejack a taste of how overrated celebrity-hood is.
* It seems Zephyr Breeze joining the Canterlot guards would be out-of-character. ...And it is! If one is familiar, he's not one to do anything outside his comfort zone or specialty (mane-styling). Also, it would be a ContinuitySnarl for Zephyr to go back on his old ways, starting something he doesn't intend to finish. That's where the Brilliance comes in: it's a hint that he's a pawn to Luna and Spike's plan.
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* Given this is the 200th episode of the series, it feels highly symbolic that the one who came out on top in this episode was Spike and Princess Luna. This appropriate on 2 levels. On Princess Luna's level, she was virtually the catalyst for the Mane 6 for the Mane 6. On Spike's level, his getting the crown represents how he's the SpannerInTheWorks to most villains (from stopping Sombra to befriending Thorax and therefore leading to Queen Chrysalis' downfall), so naturally he foiled both Twilight and Shining Armor.
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** Gallus the Griffon figured that the best idea to memorialize the tree would be to put it and everything about it in a museum so that it could be preserved for future generations, which makes a lot of sense considering how he was a Griffon living in Griffonstone. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone A people and land who LOST their historic symbols and self-destructed because of it.]] He doesn't want history repeating itself in Equestria. He also turned it into a tourist attraction as a way to generates bits, reflecting how concerned griffons are with making bits.

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** Gallus the Griffon figured that the best idea to memorialize the tree would be to put it and everything about it in a museum so that it could be preserved for future generations, which makes a lot of sense considering how he was a Griffon living in Griffonstone. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone A people and land who LOST their historic symbols and self-destructed because of it.]] He doesn't want history repeating itself in Equestria. He also turned it into a tourist attraction as a way to generates bits, reflecting how concerned griffons are with making bits.money.
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* A new tree growing from the Young Six's use of the old pieces has a bit of TruthInTelevision to it. New trees can be grown from cut branches of old ones being planted in the ground, creating a clone of the older tree. It's a lot more complicated than what we see in the show, but it's doable.
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* Grogar chooses to make an example of Sombra's failure, but Sombra not being revived again would also apply to a case of ExactWords for Grogar. The deal Grogar made with him was that Sombra could keep the Crystal Empire if he won and that he had to submit to Grogar if he lost (and stay dead if he refused to submit), and even assuming his initial retreat from the Elements of Harmony didn't count as a loss, Sombra definitely broke the agreement when he decided to try to rule all of Equestria instead of just the Crystal Empire.
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** Gallus the Griffon figured that the best idea to memorialize the tree would be to put it and everything about it in a museum so that it could be preserved for future generations, which makes a lot of sense considering how he was a Griffon living in Griffonstone. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone A people and land who LOST their historic symbols and self-destructed because of it.]] He doesn't want history repeating itself in Equestria.

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** Gallus the Griffon figured that the best idea to memorialize the tree would be to put it and everything about it in a museum so that it could be preserved for future generations, which makes a lot of sense considering how he was a Griffon living in Griffonstone. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone A people and land who LOST their historic symbols and self-destructed because of it.]] He doesn't want history repeating itself in Equestria. He also turned it into a tourist attraction as a way to generates bits, reflecting how concerned griffons are with making bits.



** Sandbar, being the [[TokenHuman token pony]] of the group, simply goes for the MundaneSolution which is planting a replacement.

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** Sandbar, being the [[TokenHuman token pony]] of the group, simply goes for the MundaneSolution which is planting a replacement. He's also an Earth Pony and earth ponies are generally good at growing things.

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* Why did the Tree of Harmony send its version of an automated massage for help instead of its own consciousness? Its body was smashed into a stump by Sombra. Just being alive is already a miracle by itself will only leave it with a mere fraction of its power.

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* Why did the Tree of Harmony send its version of an automated massage for help instead of its own consciousness? Its body was smashed into a stump by Sombra. Just being alive is already a miracle by itself and will only leave it with a mere fraction of its power.


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* The ways each of the students chose to remember the Tree of Harmony are references to each of their respective races' cultures:
** Gallus the Griffon figured that the best idea to memorialize the tree would be to put it and everything about it in a museum so that it could be preserved for future generations, which makes a lot of sense considering how he was a Griffon living in Griffonstone. [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E8TheLostTreasureOfGriffonstone A people and land who LOST their historic symbols and self-destructed because of it.]] He doesn't want history repeating itself in Equestria.
** Smolder, as a dragon, figured that the best way to honor the Tree was to create a massive '''POWERFUL''' statue that would last for generations that everyone could pay respects to and recognize it for what it was.
** Ocellus was doing a meditation garden which also fits with what we have seen of her personality and [[NewAgeRetroHippie changeling society]] thus far.
** Sandbar, being the [[TokenHuman token pony]] of the group, simply goes for the MundaneSolution which is planting a replacement.
** Silverstream's memorial artwork is fluid and dynamic while at the same time (sort-of) waterproof. Much like her people who constantly shift between land and sea while maintaining a sense of core identity.
** Yona's idea was to simply build a memorial out of the remains, as the yaks follow the philosophy of destruction and rebirth as nothing lasts forever. Her idea brings the rest together out of their conflicting views and the result was a ramshackle clubhouse that becomes the Clubhouse of Harmony, symbolising their friendship.
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* Why did the Tree of Harmony send it's version of an automated massage for help instead of it's own consciousness? It's body was smashed into a stump by Sombra. Just being alive is already a miracle by itself will only leave it with a mere fraction of it's power.

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* Why did the Tree of Harmony send it's its version of an automated massage for help instead of it's its own consciousness? It's Its body was smashed into a stump by Sombra. Just being alive is already a miracle by itself will only leave it with a mere fraction of it's its power.

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Despite us later seeing what appear to be her parents, when chastising Ocellus for leaving unannounced Thorax only speaks of the "the hive" being concerned for her. This emphasis makes sense given the deeply communal nature of the changelings, they may recognize certain changelings as being closer family, but in a sense they are all treated as one family.

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Despite us later seeing what appear to be her parents, when chastising Ocellus for leaving unannounced Thorax only speaks of the "the hive" being concerned for her. This emphasis makes sense given the deeply communal nature of the changelings, they may recognize certain changelings as being closer family, but in a sense they are all treated as one family.
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Despite us later seeing what appear to be her parents, when chastising Ocellus for leaving unannounced Thorax only speaks of the "the hive" being concerned for her. This emphasis makes sense given the deeply communal nature of the changelings, they may recognize certain changelings as being closer family, but in a sense they are all treated as one family.
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* Aside from Grogar, Sombra is the only villain present at the villains' meeting that hasn't been defeated in some way by the Elements of Harmony or the Tree they came from, and therefore has no respect for them or the power they represent in relation to his own. So of the four lesser villains, he's naturally the one to underestimate the Mane Six and try to conquer Equestria using his own power, like so many other villains have done before him.
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* When asked why the Mane 6 always win, Chrysalis says it's because they cheat, while Tirek says they're lucky. While the actual answer is that they have friendship, one can see how they saw those as the answer. Both times Chrysalis was defeated, she had the Mane 6 captured when outside help came and won the day- meaning the Mane 6 "cheated". As for Tirek, they only defeated him because there happened to be a powerful magic inside the chest, when they had nothing else left: A lucky break for them.
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* On meta levels, it makes sense to make Sombra the defective villain of Grogar's team since he is the only one of them who can be seen as an actual threat at this point. Tirek is still weak (plus Discord, who can capture him, is now fully on the ponies side, and sice Tirek already fooled him once, it won't work again), Chrysalis is nothing without her minions, and Cozy Glow is now exposed as a criminal, so she won't be able to do that sneaky takeover again.

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* On meta levels, it makes sense to make Sombra the defective villain of Grogar's team since he is the only one of them who can be seen as an actual threat at this point. Tirek is still weak (plus Discord, who can capture him, is now fully on the ponies side, and sice since Tirek already fooled him once, it won't work again), Chrysalis is nothing without her minions, and Cozy Glow is now exposed as a criminal, so she won't be able to do that sneaky takeover again.
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* On meta levels, it makes sense to make Sombra the defective villain of Grogar's team since he is the only one of them who can be seen as an actual threat at this rate. Tirek is still weak (plus Discord, who can capture him, is now fully on the ponies side, and sice Tirek already fooled him once, it won't work again), Chrysalis is nothing without her minions, and Cozy Glow is now exposed as a criminal, so she won't be able to do that sneaky takeover again.

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* On meta levels, it makes sense to make Sombra the defective villain of Grogar's team since he is the only one of them who can be seen as an actual threat at this rate.point. Tirek is still weak (plus Discord, who can capture him, is now fully on the ponies side, and sice Tirek already fooled him once, it won't work again), Chrysalis is nothing without her minions, and Cozy Glow is now exposed as a criminal, so she won't be able to do that sneaky takeover again.
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* On meta levels, it makes sense to make Sombra the defective villain of Grogar's team since he is the only one of them who can be seen as an actual threat at this rate. Tirek is still weak (plus Discord, who can capture him, is now fully on the ponies side, and sice Tirek already fooled him once, it won't work again), Chrysalis is nothing without her minions, and Cozy Glow is now exposed as a criminal, so she won't be able to do that sneaky takeover again.
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** Another possible reason for him to pretend to be hurt by Sombra's attack is to play with Sombra's ego; if Sombra believes he can beat [[PhysicalGod Discord]] then he would absolutely believe that the Mane Six couldn't possibly defeat him and would be even more caught off-guard when it turns out that they absolutely can.
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* Discord fakes an injury and pretends he can't fight anymore because he wants to show the Mane Six that they can save the day without his help and that they're capable of protecting Equestria on their own. That's probably the exact same thing Celestia and Luna have been doing this whole time and why it seems like they haven't been doing much, they just weren't as explicit about telling Twilight that they were holding back because they wanted to make sure she'd be up to the task once they were gone.
** It also shows why Discord doesn't just step in and save the day all the time either even though he's powerful enough to do so. He much rather prefers being a trickster mentor and getting the ponies to handle their own problems.
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* As noted in the previous season, Changelings are extremely social creatures by their nature, to the point that an individual changeling can't function on their own. Next we see Chrysalis after "The Mean Six", she's [[GoMadFromTheIsolation teetering on the edge of a full mental breakdown from being alone for so long]].
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* This basically explained why there are so many monsters and other dangerous threats to Equestria. They were either created by Grogar himself or inspired to follow in his footsteps.

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* This episode basically explained why there are so many monsters and other dangerous threats to Equestria. They were either created by Grogar himself or inspired to follow in his footsteps.
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* Cozy Glow's inclusion in the group seems a bit odd. She isn't a magical powerhouse like Tirek, Chrysalis, Sombra, or Grogar himself, her greatest strength was deception (which she lost after it was revealed she was fooling everyone and won't work anymore since they know her true nature), and she's a kid. But she's a pony which means she can offer insight on how their enemies think and she has more knowledge on the power of friendship than any of the villains there.

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* Cozy Glow's inclusion in the group seems a bit odd. She isn't a magical powerhouse like Tirek, Chrysalis, Sombra, or Grogar himself, her greatest strength was deception (which she lost after it was revealed she was fooling everyone and won't work anymore since they know her true nature), and she's a kid. But she's a pony which means she can offer insight on how their enemies ponies think and and, as one of Twilight's former top students, she has knows more knowledge on about the power of friendship than any of the villains there.
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*This basically explained why there are so many monsters and other dangerous threats to Equestria. They were either created by Grogar himself or inspired to follow in his footsteps.
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* Twilight doesn't attempt to teleport out of the crystal Sombra traps the Mane Six in, despite using teleportation at relevant times at other points in the episodes. But then one recalls that back when she first dealt with Sombra's magic she discovered his crystal traps interfere with any attempt to teleport out of them.
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* On the one hand, it may seem odd that friendship magic would kill Sombra, given in the past it has tended to only immobilize, purify or banish/seal away. On the other hand, one could consider what happened to Sombra to be the same as what happened to the Mean Six. The friendship magic didn’t directly kill him or them, it simply undid the magic that had brought them to life (or in his case back to life) and thus in effect killed them.
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* [[RewatchBonus Upon a rewatch,]] it's clear Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.

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* [[RewatchBonus Upon a rewatch,]] rewatching,]] it's clear Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.
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* [[RewatchBonus Upon a rewatch,]] it's very clear Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.

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* [[RewatchBonus Upon a rewatch,]] it's very clear Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.

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* Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.

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* [[RewatchBonus Upon a rewatch,]] it's very clear Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.

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* Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her.

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* Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her.her, and give a YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre speech from there.
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* Discord pointing out Fluttershy as his favorite was actually very deliberate manipulation on his part. He was fully aware that Sombra would try to attack Fluttershy after hearing that in an attempt to bait a sacrifice, so he'd let his guard down, thus being the perfect opportunity to "sacrifice" himself for her.
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* Cozy Glow's inclusion in the group seems a bit odd. She isn't a magical powerhouse like Tirek, Chrysalis, Sombra, or Grogar himself, her greatest strength was deception (which she lost after it was revealed she was fooling everyone and won't work anymore since they know her true nature), and she's a kid. But she's a pony which means she can offer insight on how their enemies think and she has more knowledge on the power of friendship than any of the villains there.
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