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* Lagoon Boy is one of those people who is absolutely desperate to fit in and be liked, and is obnoxious in an effort to be affiable. Not unlike M'gann, in some ways, who definitely grated on the viewers' nerves in her attempts to be liked. But it's also noticeable in the way La'gaan speaks: his English is very, very casual. We know from "Downtime" that English is not his first language, just like it isn't Aquaman's, Kaldur's, Garth's, or Tula's. The difference is that Aquaman, Kaldur, Garth, and Tula, when we hear them speak English, all have slight accents and very formal syntax (developed by Kaldur's voice actor, Khary Payton, and then mimicked by the other actors playing Atlanteans), very clearly marking them as fluent but non-native speakers. La'gaan's English is more or less exactly like any native speaker's, aside from the fish puns. And this must have been a deliberate characterization choice, because his voice actor, Yuri Lowenthal, also voices Garth, with the same formal, non-native syntax that Kaldur has. It sounds like La'gaan spent a lot of time listening to people talk or watching TV and mimicking them in order to fit in.

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* Lagoon Boy is one of those people who is absolutely desperate to fit in and be liked, and is obnoxious in an effort to be affiable.affable. Not unlike M'gann, in some ways, who definitely grated on the viewers' nerves in her attempts to be liked. But it's also noticeable in the way La'gaan speaks: his English is very, very casual. We know from "Downtime" that English is not his first language, just like it isn't Aquaman's, Kaldur's, Garth's, or Tula's. The difference is that Aquaman, Kaldur, Garth, and Tula, when we hear them speak English, all have slight accents and very formal syntax (developed by Kaldur's voice actor, Khary Payton, and then mimicked by the other actors playing Atlanteans), very clearly marking them as fluent but non-native speakers. La'gaan's English is more or less exactly like any native speaker's, aside from the fish puns. And this must have been a deliberate characterization choice, because his voice actor, Yuri Lowenthal, also voices Garth, with the same formal, non-native syntax that Kaldur has. It sounds like La'gaan spent a lot of time listening to people talk or watching TV and mimicking them in order to fit in.



* Over the course of three seasons, we've seen the arch-nemesis of just about every major hero appear in some capacity, Lex Luthor (Superman), Joker (Batman), Black Manta (Aquaman), Black Adam (Captain Marvel), and Sinestro (Green Lantern). One notable expection, who hasn't appeared or been mentioned in any form is Reverse-Flash. However, when you remember his origin being a time traveler from the future, you realize that it likely isn't simply that he hasn't appeared, he probably doesn't even (yet) exist. Until Bart traveled back, Earth was conquered by the Reach in the future. And even now, given the ending of "Bloodlines", the future is still likely a wreck for whatever reason. Thus, Eobard Thrawne likely has never existed.

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* Over the course of three seasons, we've seen the arch-nemesis of just about every major hero appear in some capacity, Lex Luthor (Superman), Joker (Batman), Black Manta (Aquaman), Black Adam (Captain Marvel), and Sinestro (Green Lantern). One notable expection, exception, who hasn't appeared or been mentioned in any form is Reverse-Flash. However, when you remember his origin being a time traveler from the future, you realize that it likely isn't simply that he hasn't appeared, he probably doesn't even (yet) exist. Until Bart traveled back, Earth was conquered by the Reach in the future. And even now, given the ending of "Bloodlines", the future is still likely a wreck for whatever reason. Thus, Eobard Thrawne likely has never existed.



** Season Two is their plan to intentionally lure a powerful alien race to Earth, i.e. the Reach. For the sole purpose of allowing the Reach to research the Metagene and find a way of forcefully creating new Metahumans and weaponizing them. Research that the Light would steal for phase 3, after which they betrayed the Reach and kicked them off Earth. But because the Reach were public, when they revealed the Reach's true intentions they would need a fall guy, hence the need for Tseng as Secretary-General who was forced to resign at the end of the season. Paving the way for Luthor to replace him, no doubt having help from Tseng himself due to being "Friends" with him. This phase also included the Lights acquisition of the Warworld by deliberately sending Mongul to Earth knowing the heroes would defeat him and give them an opportunity to steal it.
** Season Three is using the research data they stole form the Reach to establish a worldwide metahuman trafficking syndicate to create more Metahumans for their forces and for their ally Darkseid. They also planned to use Luthors new position as Secretary-General to establish an International Metahuman Registration Act, which would allow the Light to forcefully recruit even more Metahumans into their ranks and forcefully register all the Heroes by accusing them of vigilantism. This would have given the Light the means to eventually take over the world and allow them to move onto the last phase, helping Darkseid take over the galaxy. After which Earth and Apokolips, would wage a winner take all war against one another to determine who would rule.

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** Season Two is their plan to intentionally lure a powerful alien race to Earth, i.e. the Reach. For the sole purpose of allowing the Reach to research the Metagene and find a way of forcefully creating new Metahumans metahumans and weaponizing them. Research that the Light would steal for phase 3, after which they betrayed the Reach and kicked them off Earth. But because the Reach were public, when they revealed the Reach's true intentions they would need a fall guy, hence the need for Tseng as Secretary-General who was forced to resign at the end of the season. Paving the way for Luthor to replace him, no doubt having help from Tseng himself due to being "Friends" with him. This phase also included the Lights acquisition of the Warworld by deliberately sending Mongul to Earth knowing the heroes would defeat him and give them an opportunity to steal it.
** Season Three is using the research data they stole form the Reach to establish a worldwide metahuman trafficking syndicate to create more Metahumans metahumans for their forces and for their ally Darkseid. They also planned to use Luthors Luthor's new position as Secretary-General to establish an International Metahuman Registration Act, which would allow the Light to forcefully recruit even more Metahumans metahumans into their ranks and forcefully register all the Heroes heroes by accusing them of vigilantism. This would have given the Light the means to eventually take over the world and allow them to move onto the last phase, helping Darkseid take over the galaxy. After which Earth and Apokolips, would wage a winner take all war against one another to determine who would rule.



* Vandal is given the title of Earth's first hero, though now we know that he also brought Starro to Babylon. So is he no hero at all? Wel, think about how many heroes do tend to fight villains they accidentally helped create (Spiderman, Iron Man, Batman, etc have all done this in their various histories a few times). It's not unheard of for heroes to do so, though it is unheard of for them to do it because they don't like people thinking for themselves. So on the surfce fixing his own problem isn't the unheroic part of Vandal's history, but the reason he caused the problem is the unheroic problem.

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* Vandal is given the title of Earth's first hero, though now we know that he also brought Starro to Babylon. So is he no hero at all? Wel, Well, think about how many heroes do tend to fight villains they accidentally helped create (Spiderman, Iron Man, Batman, etc have all done this in their various histories a few times). It's not unheard of for heroes to do so, though it is unheard of for them to do it because they don't like people thinking for themselves. So on the surfce surface fixing his own problem isn't the unheroic un-heroic part of Vandal's history, but the reason he caused the problem is the unheroic un-heroic problem.



** It also speaks to their backgrounds, Clark is a farmboy, pie would be a common dessert around the Kent household, Bruce is a billionaire playboy and Devil's Food cake is often unbelievably [[{{Pun}} rich]].

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** It also speaks to their backgrounds, Clark is a farmboy, farm boy, pie would be a common dessert around the Kent household, Bruce is a billionaire playboy and Devil's Food cake is often unbelievably [[{{Pun}} rich]].



* It's revealed that Kaldur chose to go to the surface instead of focusing on his magic studies. It's easy to think Kaldur could have had cool water powers if he'd just stayed in Poseidonis, except that, if you think about it, everything he could have learned would have been superfluous. Yes the Atlanteans had cool moves, like summoning giant octopi or tempests, but pretty much ALL of them involved using a huge amount of water, something that Kaldur wouldn't usually have on the surface. Yeah, Kaldur's water weapons aren't as cool or as elegant as what some of the other Atlanteas can do, but they're pretty much the most efficient way to use water manipulation powers on the surface.

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* It's revealed that Kaldur chose to go to the surface instead of focusing on his magic studies. It's easy to think Kaldur could have had cool water powers if he'd just stayed in Poseidonis, except that, if you think about it, everything he could have learned would have been superfluous. Yes the Atlanteans had cool moves, like summoning giant octopi or tempests, but pretty much ALL of them involved using a huge amount of water, something that Kaldur wouldn't usually have on the surface. Yeah, Kaldur's water weapons aren't as cool or as elegant as what some of the other Atlanteas Atlanteans can do, but they're pretty much the most efficient way to use water manipulation powers on the surface.



* Cheshire chooses to fight Artemis. One would think it was because it was her job to do so at the time. However, remember the fact that Cheshire and Artemis are sisters, the former being the older. Plus, Cheshire was fightning alongside a group of baddies that wouldn't mind letting Artemis die in the avalanche or hold back. In a subtle Fridge Heartwarming moment, Cheshire took on Artemis because she wouldn't have tried her best, because she loves her little sister and would never hurt her or let someone else hurt her.

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* Cheshire chooses to fight Artemis. One would think it was because it was her job to do so at the time. However, remember the fact that Cheshire and Artemis are sisters, the former being the older. Plus, Cheshire was fightning fighting alongside a group of baddies that wouldn't mind letting Artemis die in the avalanche or hold back. In a subtle Fridge Heartwarming moment, Cheshire took on Artemis because she wouldn't have tried her best, because she loves her little sister and would never hurt her or let someone else hurt her.



** Actually, these two together constitute Fridge Horror. The [[spoiler:amputation]] implies that they need stem cells in the marrow, and the "continuous supply of DNA" remark implies that they needed a lot of it to perfect [[spoiler:the clone]]. [[spoiler:Roy's lucky they got his clone right early, if they had to make multiple clones to perfect it, like they did with Connor and Match, Red Arrow may've found him with more than just an arm missing.]]

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** Actually, these two together constitute Fridge Horror. The [[spoiler:amputation]] implies that they need stem cells in the marrow, and the "continuous supply of DNA" remark implies that they needed a lot of it to perfect [[spoiler:the clone]]. [[spoiler:Roy's lucky they got his clone right early, if they had to make multiple clones to perfect it, like they did with Connor and Match, Red Arrow may've may have found him with more than just an arm missing.]]



* Impulse's willingness to [[spoiler: trust and help Jaime, treating him as more of a fellow victim of the Reach rather than resenting him for technically being the main subjugator of earth.]] We know Impulse did his research before going back in time. He probably found out about how the Scarabs work when doing so, [[spoiler: and realized both that Jaime would have no say in what the Scarab did with his body and just how horrible a fate that is.]]

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* Impulse's willingness to [[spoiler: trust and help Jaime, treating him as more of a fellow victim of the Reach rather than resenting him for technically being the main subjugator of earth.Earth.]] We know Impulse did his research before going back in time. He probably found out about how the Scarabs work when doing so, [[spoiler: and realized both that Jaime would have no say in what the Scarab did with his body and just how horrible a fate that is.]]






** Also, a bit of brilliance plotwise as well, when M'gann phases out of the bioship into the water, she is compressed into a smaller form, except, she's intangible? Why does that work? Because Martian phasing abilities haven't been demonstrated in detail, since it's the first season that M'gann has had that ability, and the only other real example of phasing in combat has been [[spoiler:J'onn in Failsafe]], which [[spoiler:is a dream]], and doesn't count. The writers needed to establish that Martians can be affected by the density of whatever they're phasing through, so Black Beetle's attack is put in context.

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** Also, a bit of brilliance plotwise plot-wise as well, when M'gann phases out of the bioship Bio-Ship into the water, she is compressed into a smaller form, except, she's intangible? Why does that work? Because Martian phasing abilities haven't been demonstrated in detail, since it's the first season that M'gann has had that ability, and the only other real example of phasing in combat has been [[spoiler:J'onn in Failsafe]], which [[spoiler:is a dream]], and doesn't count. The writers needed to establish that Martians can be affected by the density of whatever they're phasing through, so Black Beetle's attack is put in context.



* Also in "War" the episode also gives a good reason the Reach doesn't want to invade the earth, besides Guardian Law preventing them from taking a planet that doesn't invite them, they are vastly outgunned by the Justice League and Earth's militaries. When Warworld attacked, The Reach used their fleet to intercept the Warworld's missiles to "Protect their investment". In doing so, they intercepted 23% of the Warworld's missiles and lost 2/3 of their ships. Compare that to the League, which neutralized 64% of the missiles with 4 members (6 if you count Green Beetle and the Bioship helping out), and Earth's militaries' taking down 13% with no casualties on the part of the Earthlings. Obviously it's not a one to one comparison (since Dr Fate was blocking most of the attacks, and Rocket was protecting Fate), but it gives a sense of just the sheer power the League has, this was only the 4 members who were spaceworthy, there are literally dozens of more Leaguers on Earth who didn't take part in the battle who would be part of fending off a reach invasion, and this isn't even including all 3 Green Lanterns shown in the series who were offworld, and the six who were on trial at the time (plus Hawkman and Icon). Also, Earth's militaries deserve credit for their 13% of the neutralized missiles, again, their contribution was only based off the spaceworthy weapons ([=ICBMs=] or other rockets) that Earth could muster in the hours prior to the attack, which means that they did over half the work the Reach did without the advantage of spacefaring technology and with no preparation, in an actual invasion there would be far more firepower on hand. Basically, if the Reach tried an outright invasion, Earth's militaries would be a match for their fleet and with the Justice League's help, it would be a curbstomp.

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* Also in "War" the episode also gives a good reason the Reach doesn't want to invade the earth, besides Guardian Law preventing them from taking a planet that doesn't invite them, they are vastly outgunned by the Justice League and Earth's militaries. When Warworld attacked, The Reach used their fleet to intercept the Warworld's missiles to "Protect their investment". In doing so, they intercepted 23% of the Warworld's missiles and lost 2/3 of their ships. Compare that to the League, which neutralized 64% of the missiles with 4 members (6 if you count Green Beetle and the Bioship Bio-Ship helping out), and Earth's militaries' taking down 13% with no casualties on the part of the Earthlings. Obviously it's not a one to one comparison (since Dr Fate was blocking most of the attacks, and Rocket was protecting Fate), but it gives a sense of just the sheer power the League has, this was only the 4 members who were spaceworthy, there are literally dozens of more Leaguers on Earth who didn't take part in the battle who would be part of fending off a reach invasion, and this isn't even including all 3 Green Lanterns shown in the series who were offworld, off-world, and the six who were on trial at the time (plus Hawkman and Icon). Also, Earth's militaries deserve credit for their 13% of the neutralized missiles, again, their contribution was only based off the spaceworthy weapons ([=ICBMs=] or other rockets) that Earth could muster in the hours prior to the attack, which means that they did over half the work the Reach did without the advantage of spacefaring technology and with no preparation, in an actual invasion there would be far more firepower on hand. Basically, if the Reach tried an outright invasion, Earth's militaries would be a match for their fleet and with the Justice League's help, it would be a curbstomp.



* Did anyone else have a light bulb moment about the Robin/ Wondergirl pairing when the remembered the pairings from Justice League/Justice League Unlimited?

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* Did anyone else have a light bulb moment about the Robin/ Wondergirl Wonder Girl pairing when the remembered the pairings from Justice League/Justice League Unlimited?



* In recent adaptions such as [[WesternAnimation/SuicideSquadHellToPay Suicide Squad Hell to Pay]], Vandal Savage was stated to be, among others, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, and Genghis Khan. In Young Justice he was Genghis, but he was also identified as Atilla the Hun and Blackbeard. This works fairly well with his goals in universe: he thrives of making humanity stronger and opposing calcified status quos. With the amount of empires and kingdoms Atilla and Genghis tore down or shook to their cores, he certainly was doing those things well before the Justice League. The isolation of the Eurasian steppes both hailed from would also serve him well in vanishing for times between identities, as well as allowing him to move between region of the world for each (going from Babylonia as Marduk to China as Sun Tzu to the edge of Europe as Atilla, etc etc.) His time as Blackbeard also notably happened after the end of the prominence of the steppe raiders following the advent of gun powder, warranting a change in behavior and pace.

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* In recent adaptions such as [[WesternAnimation/SuicideSquadHellToPay Suicide Squad Hell to Pay]], Vandal Savage was stated to be, among others, Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, and Genghis Khan. In Young Justice he was Genghis, but he was also identified as Atilla Attila the Hun and Blackbeard. This works fairly well with his goals in universe: he thrives of making humanity stronger and opposing calcified status quos. With the amount of empires and kingdoms Atilla Attila and Genghis tore down or shook to their cores, he certainly was doing those things well before the Justice League. The isolation of the Eurasian steppes both hailed from would also serve him well in vanishing for times between identities, as well as allowing him to move between region of the world for each (going from Babylonia as Marduk to China as Sun Tzu to the edge of Europe as Atilla, etc etc.) His time as Blackbeard also notably happened after the end of the prominence of the steppe raiders following the advent of gun powder, gunpowder, warranting a change in behavior and pace.



* Garfield's choice of team-mates for the Outsiders makes a lot of sense for a team meant to be out in the open: Gar himself is instantly recognizable due to his time on television and his green skin, as is Brion as the exiled Prince of Markovia; Blue Beetle is known for his role in preventing the Reach Invasion (even if part of that was him being mind controlled); Wonder-Girl and Kid Flash have brand recognition (Wally was already known before the team started and that carried over to Bart. Cassie may not be instantly recognizable, but once the name Wonder-Girl drops, everyone makes the connection). The only exception is Static, but one unknown among many knowns doesn't matter much. Basically, Gar is looking to repeat the good press he got from stopping that robbery and saving Perdita, and he chose the right members for it.

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* Garfield's choice of team-mates for the Outsiders makes a lot of sense for a team meant to be out in the open: Gar himself is instantly recognizable due to his time on television and his green skin, as is Brion as the exiled Prince of Markovia; Blue Beetle is known for his role in preventing the Reach Invasion (even if part of that was him being mind controlled); Wonder-Girl and Kid Flash have brand recognition (Wally was already known before the team started and that carried over to Bart. Cassie may not be instantly recognizable, but once the name Wonder-Girl drops, everyone makes the connection). The only exception is Static, but one unknown among many knowns known doesn't matter much. Basically, Gar is looking to repeat the good press he got from stopping that robbery and saving Perdita, and he chose the right members for it.



** This may also explain why Orphan and Spoiler have been added to Batman Incorperated, as well as the hints towards [[spoiler: Jason Todd and Damian Wayne.]]

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** This may also explain why Orphan and Spoiler have been added to Batman Incorperated, Incorporated, as well as the hints towards [[spoiler: Jason Todd and Damian Wayne.]]



* Why Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, and Chameleon Boy of all Legionaire trios? Being set on Mars you have all the main Martian powers in one (Saturn Girl's telepathy, Phantom Girl's intangibility, and Chameleon Boy's shapeshifting).
* While Conner does express surprise that Manhunter would get a new perspective on racism via the Earth, as the Earth is no utopia, it's not a unreasonable development. J'onn ended up on Earth in the seventies and had decades to witness the social and political aspects of multiple forms of distrust founded on racial differences. The freshness of it would let him examine Mars more clearly because he can see the problems that racism causes without any of his own biases clouding his perception. Mixed race marriage debates, for example, would give him a new perspective on his sister's hardships. It is telling, perhaps, that his human form is that of a black man.

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* Why Saturn Girl, Phantom Girl, and Chameleon Boy of all Legionaire Legionnaire trios? Being set on Mars you have all the main Martian powers in one (Saturn Girl's telepathy, Phantom Girl's intangibility, and Chameleon Boy's shapeshifting).
* While Conner does express surprise that Manhunter would get a new perspective on racism via the Earth, as the Earth is no utopia, it's not a unreasonable development. J'onn ended up on Earth in the seventies mid-fifties and had decades to witness the social and political aspects of multiple forms of distrust founded on racial differences. The freshness of it would let him examine Mars more clearly because he can see the problems that racism causes without any of his own biases clouding his perception. Mixed race marriage debates, for example, would give him a new perspective on his sister's hardships. It is telling, perhaps, that his human form is that of a black man.



* Superboy and Wally West both died because of their lesser powers compared to their mentors, but in different ways. Wally died because he was slower than the others and got hit with excess energy, while Superboy's lack of a pure kryptonian's physiology let him ignore the kryptonite to ensure the bomb was destroyed where Superman was completeyl repelled by it. Superboy's lack of power let him die to save the day, while Wally just served as a release valve for the energy of the reach device.

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* Superboy and Wally West both died because of their lesser powers compared to their mentors, but in different ways. Wally died because he was slower than the others and got hit with excess energy, while Superboy's lack of a pure kryptonian's half-Kryptonian physiology let lets him ignore the kryptonite to ensure the bomb was destroyed where Superman was completeyl completely repelled by it. Superboy's lack of power let him die to save the day, while Wally just served as a release valve for the energy of the reach device.



* Season 4 story arc in general [[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price. Then we get the following arcs, while not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman ie Superboy and we also show whay Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it. It the same way hereafter is an "adopted" story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy. Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not Oceanmaster & Zod, individuals who seek the honor Supes ie Steel & Jemm. someone who is an inheritor of Supes Blue Forager & Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn't, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help ie Eradicator&Kaiser Thrall. ]]

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* Season 4 story arc in general [[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor Connor is required to pay the ultimate price. Then we get the following arcs, while not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman ie i.e. Superboy and we also show whay why Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it. It the same way hereafter is an "adopted" story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy. Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not Oceanmaster Ocean Master & Zod, individuals who seek the honor Supes ie i.e. Steel & Jemm. someone Someone who is an inheritor of Supes Blue Forager & Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn't, appears villanuous villainous but turns out to be heroic after getting help ie i.e. Eradicator&Kaiser Thrall. ]]



* So in the comics we learned that Atlantians were originally humans who learned to live underwater. But as time went on, they started to "develop" fish features, from mermaids to talking sharks... [[DoesThisRemindYouofAnything so how did that happen?]]

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* So in the comics we learned that Atlantians Atlanteans were originally humans who learned to live underwater. But as time went on, they started to "develop" fish features, from mermaids to talking sharks... [[DoesThisRemindYouofAnything so how did that happen?]]



*** Accidentally destroying the Watchtower is ''nothing'' compared to what Klarion can do. He's supposed to be Fate's equal, right? Remember when Fate shielded an entire hemisphere from the Warworld's alien missiles, and singlehandedly destroyed it's planetbusing WaveMotionGun? Imagine that kind of power in the hand of a childish, insane, malevolent HumanoidAbomination, then don't bother because that's ''exactly'' what Klarion is.

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*** Accidentally destroying the Watchtower is ''nothing'' compared to what Klarion can do. He's supposed to be Fate's equal, right? Remember when Fate shielded an entire hemisphere from the Warworld's alien missiles, and singlehandedly single-handedly destroyed it's planetbusing WaveMotionGun? Imagine that kind of power in the hand of a childish, insane, malevolent HumanoidAbomination, then don't bother because that's ''exactly'' what Klarion is.



* When he's holed up in HQ, Nightwing still has Robin's birdarang. He's spent most of the season doing his best to keep Robin out of trouble (to the point where he didn't let Robin go on War World, just fly the bioship invisibly on the surface), and now he has no idea where he is or even if he's alive.

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* When he's holed up in HQ, Nightwing still has Robin's birdarang. He's spent most of the season doing his best to keep Robin out of trouble (to the point where he didn't let Robin go on War World, just fly the bioship Bio-Ship invisibly on the surface), and now he has no idea where he is or even if he's alive.
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** Becomes a bit of Fridge Brilliance given the psychic control Cadmus holds over Guardian in the pilot, and especially once it's revealed that [[spoiler:Guardian is a clone himself.]] So Cadmus can basically do whatever they want under Guardian's nose and then psychically suggest [[spoiler:or use his clone programming to ensure,]] that he forget about the stuff they don't want him to know.

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** Becomes a bit of Fridge Brilliance given the psychic control Cadmus holds over Guardian in the pilot, and especially once it's revealed that [[spoiler:Guardian is a clone of Roy himself.]] So Cadmus can basically do whatever they want under Guardian's nose and then psychically suggest suggest, [[spoiler:or use his clone programming to ensure,]] ensure]], that he forget about the stuff they don't want him to know.

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*** No, it's more likely that "internally" meant his organs, because he said it in reference to not being immortal.
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* If Queen Bee has ever had sex with someone who was under her thrall, then she's a rapist in addition to being a dictator and murderer.
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* Zviad Baazovi effectively has control over an entire kingdom, and is able to convince people who want to be left alone that they want to fight and has his own fighters run people out of the country for disagreeing. All while he's completely beneath notice.
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* This version of Superboy is a HalfHumanHybrid [[CloningBlues Clone]] of Franchise/{{Superman}} with about half his powers: SuperStrength, [[InASingleBound Super Leaping]], SuperSenses, and SuperToughness. These are the same powers that the original Superman had.

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* This version of Superboy is a HalfHumanHybrid [[CloningBlues Clone]] clone of Franchise/{{Superman}} with about half his powers: SuperStrength, [[InASingleBound Super Leaping]], SuperSenses, and SuperToughness. These are the same powers that the original Superman had.
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* If you notice that one of Marie Logan's Co-Stars is Rita Farr of the Doom Patrol (meaning that Rita Farr knew the Logans) then you get some Fridge Brilliance about her taking in Gar. Of course that's only assuming that happens eventually in the Young Justice universe.

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* If you notice that one of Marie Logan's Co-Stars is Rita Farr of the Doom Patrol (meaning that Rita Farr knew the Logans) then you get some Fridge Brilliance about her taking in Gar. Of course that's only assuming that happens eventually in the Young Justice universe.
Gar, which is implied to happen between Seasons 2 and 3.
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* Also in "War" the episode also gives a good reason the Reach doesn't want to invade the earth, besides Guardian Law preventing them from taking a planet that doesn't invite them, they are vastly outgunned by the Justice League and Earth's militaries. When Warworld attacked, The Reach used their fleet to intercept the Warworld's missiles to "Protect their investment". In doing so, they intercepted 23% of the Warworld's missiles and lost 2/3 of their ships. Compare that to the League, which neutralized 64% of the missiles with 4 members (6 if you count Green Beetle and the Bioship helping out), and Earth's militaries' taking down 13% with no casualties on the part of the Earthlings. Obviously it's not a one to one comparison (since Dr Fate was blocking most of the attacks, and Rocket was protecting Fate), but it gives a sense of just the sheer power the League has, this was only the 4 members who were spaceworthy, there are literally dozens of more Leaguers on Earth who didn't take part in the battle who would be part of fending off a reach invasion, and this isn't even including all 3 Green Lanterns shown in the series who were offworld, and the seven who were on trial at the time (and Icon). Also, Earth's militaries deserve credit for their 13% of the neutralized missiles, again, their contribution was only based off the spaceworthy weapons ([=ICBMs=] or other rockets) that Earth could muster in the hours prior to the attack, which means that they did over half the work the Reach did without the advantage of spacefaring technology and with no preparation, in an actual invasion there would be far more firepower on hand. Basically, if the Reach tried an outright invasion, Earth's militaries would be a match for their fleet and with the Justice League's help, it would be a curbstomp.

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* Also in "War" the episode also gives a good reason the Reach doesn't want to invade the earth, besides Guardian Law preventing them from taking a planet that doesn't invite them, they are vastly outgunned by the Justice League and Earth's militaries. When Warworld attacked, The Reach used their fleet to intercept the Warworld's missiles to "Protect their investment". In doing so, they intercepted 23% of the Warworld's missiles and lost 2/3 of their ships. Compare that to the League, which neutralized 64% of the missiles with 4 members (6 if you count Green Beetle and the Bioship helping out), and Earth's militaries' taking down 13% with no casualties on the part of the Earthlings. Obviously it's not a one to one comparison (since Dr Fate was blocking most of the attacks, and Rocket was protecting Fate), but it gives a sense of just the sheer power the League has, this was only the 4 members who were spaceworthy, there are literally dozens of more Leaguers on Earth who didn't take part in the battle who would be part of fending off a reach invasion, and this isn't even including all 3 Green Lanterns shown in the series who were offworld, and the seven six who were on trial at the time (and (plus Hawkman and Icon). Also, Earth's militaries deserve credit for their 13% of the neutralized missiles, again, their contribution was only based off the spaceworthy weapons ([=ICBMs=] or other rockets) that Earth could muster in the hours prior to the attack, which means that they did over half the work the Reach did without the advantage of spacefaring technology and with no preparation, in an actual invasion there would be far more firepower on hand. Basically, if the Reach tried an outright invasion, Earth's militaries would be a match for their fleet and with the Justice League's help, it would be a curbstomp.
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* When the [[spoiler:mind-controlled]] Justice League went into space, they sent the exact same lineup as the original leaguers in [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]] except the Flash. So why wasn't the Flash included from the mission? Because Wally isn't a member. - Tropers/{{Aenthin}}

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* When the [[spoiler:mind-controlled]] Justice League went into space, they sent the exact same lineup as the original leaguers in [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague Justice League Unlimited]] except the Flash. So why wasn't the Flash included from the mission? Because in Wally is The Flash in that show, and in this show he isn't a member.member of the League. - Tropers/{{Aenthin}}
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** It also speaks to their backgrounds, Clark is a farmboy, pie would be a common dessert around the Kent household, Bruce is a billionaire playboy and Devil's Food cake is often unbelievably [[IncrediblyLamePun rich]].

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** It also speaks to their backgrounds, Clark is a farmboy, pie would be a common dessert around the Kent household, Bruce is a billionaire playboy and Devil's Food cake is often unbelievably [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} rich]].



* Troia phrases 'his or her' as 'her or his'. Of course she'd do that, she's from a female dominate society.

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* Troia phrases 'his or her' as 'her or his'. Of course course, she'd do that, she's from a female dominate society.
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** It's just as possible that neither stories happened [[BroadStrokes as they did]] or happened [[AdaptedOut at all]]. The Franchise/{{DCAU}} had Steel without any sort of ''The Death of Superman'' adaptation (Doomsday also showed up later and was also completely unrelated) and Barbara [[WhatCouldHaveBeen almost]] showed up as Oracle (unparalyzed) in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' without a ''The Killing Joke'' adaptation. In ''WesternAnimation/BewareTheBatman'', Barbara was Oracle again without ever having been Batgirl and there was no ''The Killing Joke'' adaptation. We already have Superboy without being connected to ''The Death of Superman'' too.

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** It's just as possible that neither stories happened [[BroadStrokes as they did]] or happened [[AdaptedOut at all]]. The Franchise/{{DCAU}} Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse had Steel without any sort of ''The Death of Superman'' adaptation (Doomsday also showed up later and was also completely unrelated) and Barbara [[WhatCouldHaveBeen almost]] showed up as Oracle (unparalyzed) in ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited'' without a ''The Killing Joke'' adaptation. In ''WesternAnimation/BewareTheBatman'', Barbara was Oracle again without ever having been Batgirl and there was no ''The Killing Joke'' adaptation. We already have Superboy without being connected to ''The Death of Superman'' too.
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** Also because Impulse keeps feeding Jaime's fear about the Scarab, liking frightening it into thinking his influence is gonna talk him into removing it or otherwise doing something to it (which eventually happens). On the other hand Nightwing, who tells him not to worry about it and figures the Scarab can be trusted, it actually seems to like.

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** Also because Impulse keeps feeding Jaime's fear about the Scarab, liking likely frightening it into thinking his influence is gonna talk him into removing it or otherwise doing something to it (which eventually happens). On the other hand Nightwing, who tells him not to worry about it and figures the Scarab can be trusted, it actually seems to like.
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* Also in "War" the episode also gives a good reason the Reach doesn't want to invade the earth, besides Guardian Law preventing them from taking a planet that doesn't invite them, they are vastly outgunned by the Justice League and Earth's militaries. When Warworld attacked, The Reach used their fleet to intercept the Warworld's missiles to "Protect their investment". In doing so, they intercepted 23% of the Warworld's missiles and lost 2/3 of their ships. Compare that to the League, which neutralized 64% of the missiles with 4 members (6 if you count Green Beetle and the Bioship helping out), and Earth's militaries' taking down 13% with no casualties on the part of the Earthlings. Obviously it's not a one to one comparison (since Dr Fate was blocking most of the attacks, and Rocket was protecting Fate), but it gives a sense of just the sheer power the League has, this was only the 4 members who were spaceworthy, there are literally dozens of more Leaguers on Earth who didn't take part in the battle who would be part of fending off a reach invasion, and this isn't even including all 3 Green Lanterns shown in the series who were offworld, and the seven who were on trial at the time (and Icon). Also, Earth's militaries deserve credit for their 13% of the neutralized missiles, again, their contribution was only based off the spaceworthy weapons (ICBMs or other rockets) that Earth could muster in the hours prior to the attack, which means that they did over half the work the Reach did without the advantage of spacefaring technology and with no preparation, in an actual invasion there would be far more firepower on hand. Basically, if the Reach tried an outright invasion, Earth's militaries would be a match for their fleet and with the Justice League's help, it would be a curbstomp.

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* Also in "War" the episode also gives a good reason the Reach doesn't want to invade the earth, besides Guardian Law preventing them from taking a planet that doesn't invite them, they are vastly outgunned by the Justice League and Earth's militaries. When Warworld attacked, The Reach used their fleet to intercept the Warworld's missiles to "Protect their investment". In doing so, they intercepted 23% of the Warworld's missiles and lost 2/3 of their ships. Compare that to the League, which neutralized 64% of the missiles with 4 members (6 if you count Green Beetle and the Bioship helping out), and Earth's militaries' taking down 13% with no casualties on the part of the Earthlings. Obviously it's not a one to one comparison (since Dr Fate was blocking most of the attacks, and Rocket was protecting Fate), but it gives a sense of just the sheer power the League has, this was only the 4 members who were spaceworthy, there are literally dozens of more Leaguers on Earth who didn't take part in the battle who would be part of fending off a reach invasion, and this isn't even including all 3 Green Lanterns shown in the series who were offworld, and the seven who were on trial at the time (and Icon). Also, Earth's militaries deserve credit for their 13% of the neutralized missiles, again, their contribution was only based off the spaceworthy weapons (ICBMs ([=ICBMs=] or other rockets) that Earth could muster in the hours prior to the attack, which means that they did over half the work the Reach did without the advantage of spacefaring technology and with no preparation, in an actual invasion there would be far more firepower on hand. Basically, if the Reach tried an outright invasion, Earth's militaries would be a match for their fleet and with the Justice League's help, it would be a curbstomp.
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* This version of Superboy is a HalfHumanHybrid [[CloningBlues Clone]] of {{Superman}} with about half his powers: SuperStrength, [[InASingleBound Super Leaping]], SuperSenses, and SuperToughness. These are the same powers that the original Superman had.

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* This version of Superboy is a HalfHumanHybrid [[CloningBlues Clone]] of {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} with about half his powers: SuperStrength, [[InASingleBound Super Leaping]], SuperSenses, and SuperToughness. These are the same powers that the original Superman had.
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* Just like the season 3 example above, this season's episode titles also seem pretty normal, right? Again, read the first letter of each episode. [[spoiler:"INVITATION TO KNEEL BEFORE ZOD"]]

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* Season 4 story arc in general[[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

Then we get the following arcs: While not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman ie Superboy and we also show whay Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it. It the same way hereafter is an “adopted” story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy. Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not Oceanmaster & Zod, individuals who seek the honor Supes ie Steel & Jemm. someone who is an inheritor of Supes Blue Forager & Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help ie Eradicator&Kaiser Thrall. ]]

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* Season 4 story arc in general[[spoiler: general [[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

price. Then we get the following arcs: While arcs, while not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman ie Superboy and we also show whay Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it. It the same way hereafter is an “adopted” story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy. Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not Oceanmaster & Zod, individuals who seek the honor Supes ie Steel & Jemm. someone who is an inheritor of Supes Blue Forager & Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help ie Eradicator&Kaiser Thrall. ]]

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* Season 4 story arc in general [[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

Then we get the following arcs: While not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman (Superboy), and we also show whay Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it.

It the same way hereafter is an “adopted” story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy.

Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not (Oceanmaster/Zod), individuals who seek the honor Supes (Steel/Jemm), someone who is an inheritor of Supes (Blue Forager/Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help (Eradicator/Kaiser Thrall). ]]

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* Season 4 story arc in general [[spoiler: general[[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

Then we get the following arcs: While not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman (Superboy), ie Superboy and we also show whay Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it.

it. It the same way hereafter is an “adopted” story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy. \n\n Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not (Oceanmaster/Zod), Oceanmaster & Zod, individuals who seek the honor Supes (Steel/Jemm), ie Steel & Jemm. someone who is an inheritor of Supes (Blue Forager/Superboy.Blue Forager & Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help (Eradicator/Kaiser Thrall).ie Eradicator&Kaiser Thrall. ]]
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* Season 4 story arc in general
[[spoiler:It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

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* Season 4 story arc in general
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general [[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.



Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not (Oceanmaster/Zod), individuals who seek the honor Supes (Steel/Jemm), someone who is an inheritor of Supes (Blue Forager/Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help (Eradicator/Kaiser Thrall)]]

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Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not (Oceanmaster/Zod), individuals who seek the honor Supes (Steel/Jemm), someone who is an inheritor of Supes (Blue Forager/Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help (Eradicator/Kaiser Thrall)]]
Thrall). ]]
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Season 4 story arc in general
[[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark [Connor], but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

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* Season 4 story arc in general
[[spoiler: It [[spoiler:It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark [Connor], (Connor), but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.
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Season 4 story arc in general
[[spoiler: It might seem silly, but season 4 is to an extent Death of Superman is in the comics. You have the first arc, right before Clark and Lois get married. Then the problem of the arc can only be handled by Clark [Connor], but Conor is required to pay the ultimate price.

Then we get the following arcs: While not a perfect match, has similar story beats. We show the world without Superman (Superboy), and we also show whay Superboy means. As many try to both inherit his legacy and try live to meet it.

It the same way hereafter is an “adopted” story of Death/Funeral/Reign, S4 of Young Justice is that. As the most important part of that trilogy was about legacy.

Furthermore we have characters whom pretends to be heroes they are not (Oceanmaster/Zod), individuals who seek the honor Supes (Steel/Jemm), someone who is an inheritor of Supes (Blue Forager/Superboy. Its not a perfect comparison but it felts. Then someone who looks like Supes but isn’t, appears villanuous but turns out to be heroic after getting help (Eradicator/Kaiser Thrall)]]

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