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* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the Matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the Matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was back was a welcome relief for him.
* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon to make sure Earth's resources can be safely refined!
* Why is Ironhide red? Iron is known to be red in its natural state.
* In "The Rebirth, Part 3", the Combaticons are seen building the giant engines on Cybertron. Normally you'd expect the Constructicons to do this, but by this time, their toys had been discontinued, so it made no sense to shill them when the Combaticons were still available.
* Why would Predaking be much smarter than the other combiners [[InformedAbility if the writers ever bothered to read the characterizations]]? Because his components' altmodes are animals. Whereas the other combiners are amalgamations of minds that don't always get along (and sometimes outright ''hate'' each other), Predaking is a ''pack''. When the hunt is on, internal conflicts get put aside.
* Sky Lynx's near-insufferable sense of superiority makes a lot of sense when you step back and take a look at his combined non-alternate mode: He's a ''dragon''. How often in modern fiction do you see sentient dragons ''without'' an ego?
* Megatron's alt mode is a gun, which has to be held by others in order to be fired. A case of WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway? Nope - a gun has only one purpose, and that's to kill people. He chose it in order to be more intimidating!
* Why does Megatron allow himself to be wielded in gun mode by Starscream, whom he hates and distrusts? Because when he's the weapon in Starscream's hand, Megatron becomes the only thing Starscream CAN'T shoot.
* As [[https://youtu.be/E2DA8SJxKAM this video]] touches on, there's a lot of Fridge Brilliance tucked into Megatron's alt mode. First, his shots seem more powerful when transformed, providing an incentive for him to transform to be shot instead of shooting himself with his massive ArmCannon. It also might make sense that this is the case: depending on how Transformer mass-shifting works, the energy of his Fusion Cannon might be "compressed" in his smaller gun mode, making the blasts more focused... essentially making his gun mode shots an ArmorPiercingAttack. Second, he's actually demonstrating a commendable leadership quality, trusting his subordinates to do the job he's assigned them, literally placing himself in their hands to see it done. Third, sometimes his ability to communicate is all mode is diminished or absent, meaning he's essentially turning tactical command of the battle over to another Decepticon, again showing trust but also that Megatron might realize his limitations -- a tactical thinker he is assuredly not. Finally, he didn't actually choose that alt form, it was foisted on him by Teletraan-1. The Decepticons seem to have no means of reconfiguring their alt modes, so Megatron is stuck with it and doing the best he can with what he's got.
* A combination of Brilliance and Horror: it's established that the Autobots and Decepticons were originally created for to be labor drones and combat droids respectively. The horror comes from the fact that this basically means that the only reason the Decepticons fight is because they’re subconsciously acting out their programming and all the talk about power, glory and destiny are just rationalizations. The brilliance comes from the fact that this means that the reason the Autobots always win in the end is because they GrewBeyondTheirProgramming and took up the sword.

[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* The HatePlague episodes: It's established that the plague went beyond earth to other planets, to the point that the entire galaxy was threatened. Imagine the kind of destruction unleashed on earth occurring everywhere else in the galaxy. That's a death toll measuring so high that there might not be a number large enough to catalog the amount of lives lost. That scene of the two humans apologizing for weaponizing the plague is likely very their last action on earth before they're imprisoned some where in space or executed.
* In "Ghost In The Machine", Unicron wanted Starscream to connect him to Cybertron so he could reformat it into his new body. Knowing what we know now about the TF mythos, especially the fact that Cybertron essentially IS Primus in physical form... just what WOULD have happened if that had occurred?

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\n[[AC:FridgeBrilliance]]\n* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the Matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the Matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was back was a welcome relief for him.
* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon to make sure Earth's resources can be safely refined!
* Why is Ironhide red? Iron is known to be red in its natural state.
* In "The Rebirth, Part 3", the Combaticons are seen building the giant engines on Cybertron. Normally you'd expect the Constructicons to do this, but by this time, their toys had been discontinued, so it made no sense to shill them when the Combaticons were still available.
* Why would Predaking be much smarter than the other combiners [[InformedAbility if the writers ever bothered to read the characterizations]]? Because his components' altmodes are animals. Whereas the other combiners are amalgamations of minds that don't always get along (and sometimes outright ''hate'' each other), Predaking is a ''pack''. When the hunt is on, internal conflicts get put aside.
* Sky Lynx's near-insufferable sense of superiority makes a lot of sense when you step back and take a look at his combined non-alternate mode: He's a ''dragon''. How often in modern fiction do you see sentient dragons ''without'' an ego?
* Megatron's alt mode is a gun, which has to be held by others in order to be fired. A case of WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway? Nope - a gun has only one purpose, and that's to kill people. He chose it in order to be more intimidating!
* Why does Megatron allow himself to be wielded in gun mode by Starscream, whom he hates and distrusts? Because when he's the weapon in Starscream's hand, Megatron becomes the only thing Starscream CAN'T shoot.
* As [[https://youtu.be/E2DA8SJxKAM this video]] touches on, there's a lot of Fridge Brilliance tucked into Megatron's alt mode. First, his shots seem more powerful when transformed, providing an incentive for him to transform to be shot instead of shooting himself with his massive ArmCannon. It also might make sense that this is the case: depending on how Transformer mass-shifting works, the energy of his Fusion Cannon might be "compressed" in his smaller gun mode, making the blasts more focused... essentially making his gun mode shots an ArmorPiercingAttack. Second, he's actually demonstrating a commendable leadership quality, trusting his subordinates to do the job he's assigned them, literally placing himself in their hands to see it done. Third, sometimes his ability to communicate is all mode is diminished or absent, meaning he's essentially turning tactical command of the battle over to another Decepticon, again showing trust but also that Megatron might realize his limitations -- a tactical thinker he is assuredly not. Finally, he didn't actually choose that alt form, it was foisted on him by Teletraan-1. The Decepticons seem to have no means of reconfiguring their alt modes, so Megatron is stuck with it and doing the best he can with what he's got.
* A combination of Brilliance and Horror: it's established that the Autobots and Decepticons were originally created for to be labor drones and combat droids respectively. The horror comes from the fact that this basically means that the only reason the Decepticons fight is because they’re subconsciously acting out their programming and all the talk about power, glory and destiny are just rationalizations. The brilliance comes from the fact that this means that the reason the Autobots always win in the end is because they GrewBeyondTheirProgramming and took up the sword.

[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* The HatePlague episodes: It's established that the plague went beyond earth to other planets, to the point that the entire galaxy was threatened. Imagine the kind of destruction unleashed on earth occurring everywhere else in the galaxy. That's a death toll measuring so high that there might not be a number large enough to catalog the amount of lives lost. That scene of the two humans apologizing for weaponizing the plague is likely very their last action on earth before they're imprisoned some where in space or executed.
* In "Ghost In The Machine", Unicron wanted Starscream to connect him to Cybertron so he could reformat it into his new body. Knowing what we know now about the TF mythos, especially the fact that Cybertron essentially IS Primus in physical form... just what WOULD have happened if that had occurred?
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[[AC:FridgeLogic]]
* Several times, the Ark is said to contain "secrets" that would result in disaster if they ever fell into Decepticon hands. This raises some questions:
** If those "secrets" are so potentially devastating, why didn't the Autobots ever use them against the Decepticons?
** If the Ark is that important, than why would the Autobots risk it by using it to clear away the asteroid field that threatened Cybertron? They could have achieved the same results with a fleet of smaller, less important ships.
*** An implicit explanation is given in ''Transformers '84''; [[spoiler: The Ark was a lure for Decepticon High Command, so that they could be taken out by having the Ark crash on a distant world]].
* During the ''Target: 2006'' storyline, Unicron is revealed to have ensnared the minds of Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr so they could go back and sabotage Galvatron's plan, calling the process "laughably simple". If that's the case, than why did he even bother sending Galvatron after the Matrix, when he could have just compelled a group of random Autobots to ambush Ultra Magnus and destroy it?
* It is eventully revealed that the entire Transformers race were meant to be Primus' ultimate defense against Unicron. If they were meant to battle Unicron, then why did Primus make them so small compared to him? When Unicron finally shows up, he easily crushes many Transformers. If they were supposed to battle Unicron, then making them a mere fraction of his size was an incredibly poor design.
* Prior to Unicron's arrival, it is revealed that a group of early Transformers were infected by Unicron's evil, and instructed to [[TheMole lie in wait]] until Primus announced who would lead his children into battle, and attack him. How did those guys manage to survive the Autobot/Decepticon war? Countless members on both sides were wiped out, yet Unicron's followers somehow managed to survive in enough numbers to give Optimus Prime and Scorponok trouble.

[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* The Decepticons forced the Neutralist scientist Spanner not only to build the Space Bridge, but become a part of it. Many issues later, the Decepticons are shown to have adopted a new, more efficient method of transport. This raises the question of what became of the Space Bridge and Spanner. Was he dismantled, repurposed, or even destroyed (as the Decepticons had [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no more use for him]])?

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[[AC:FridgeLogic]]
* Several times, the Ark is said to contain "secrets" that would result in disaster if they ever fell into Decepticon hands. This raises some questions:
** If those "secrets" are so potentially devastating, why didn't the Autobots ever use them against the Decepticons?
** If the Ark is that important, than why would the Autobots risk it by using it to clear away the asteroid field that threatened Cybertron? They could have achieved the same results with a fleet of smaller, less important ships.
*** An implicit explanation is given in ''Transformers '84''; [[spoiler: The Ark was a lure for Decepticon High Command, so that they could be taken out by having the Ark crash on a distant world]].
* During the ''Target: 2006'' storyline, Unicron is revealed to have ensnared the minds of Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr so they could go back and sabotage Galvatron's plan, calling the process "laughably simple". If that's the case, than why did he even bother sending Galvatron after the Matrix, when he could have just compelled a group of random Autobots to ambush Ultra Magnus and destroy it?
* It is eventully revealed that the entire Transformers race were meant to be Primus' ultimate defense against Unicron. If they were meant to battle Unicron, then why did Primus make them so small compared to him? When Unicron finally shows up, he easily crushes many Transformers. If they were supposed to battle Unicron, then making them a mere fraction of his size was an incredibly poor design.
* Prior to Unicron's arrival, it is revealed that a group of early Transformers were infected by Unicron's evil, and instructed to [[TheMole lie in wait]] until Primus announced who would lead his children into battle, and attack him. How did those guys manage to survive the Autobot/Decepticon war? Countless members on both sides were wiped out, yet Unicron's followers somehow managed to survive in enough numbers to give Optimus Prime and Scorponok trouble.

[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* The Decepticons forced the Neutralist scientist Spanner not only to build the Space Bridge, but become a part of it. Many issues later, the Decepticons are shown to have adopted a new, more efficient method of transport. This raises the question of what became of the Space Bridge and Spanner. Was he dismantled, repurposed, or even destroyed (as the Decepticons had [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no more use for him]])?
See {{Fridge.TheTransformersMarvel}}
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* A combination of Brilliance and Horror: it's established that the Autobots and Decepticons were originally created for to be labor drones and combat droids respectively. The horror comes from the fact that this basically means that the only reason the Decepticons fight it because they’re subconsciously acting out their programming and all the talk about power, glory and destiny are just rationalizations. The brilliance comes from the fact that this means that the reason the Autobots always win in the end is because they GrewBeyondTheirProgramming and took up the sword.

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* A combination of Brilliance and Horror: it's established that the Autobots and Decepticons were originally created for to be labor drones and combat droids respectively. The horror comes from the fact that this basically means that the only reason the Decepticons fight it is because they’re subconsciously acting out their programming and all the talk about power, glory and destiny are just rationalizations. The brilliance comes from the fact that this means that the reason the Autobots always win in the end is because they GrewBeyondTheirProgramming and took up the sword.

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* Why would Predaking be much smarter than the other combiners [[InformedAbility if the writers ever bothered to read the characterizations]]? Because his components' altmodes are animals. Whereas the other combiners are amalgamations of minds that don't always get along (and sometimes outright ''hate'' each other), Predaking is a ''pack''. When the hunt is on, internal conflicts get put aside.
* Sky Lynx's near-insufferable sense of superiority makes a lot of sense when you step back and take a look at his combined non-alternate mode: He's a ''dragon''. How often in modern fiction do you see sentient dragons ''without'' an ego?
* Megatron's alt mode is a gun, which has to be held by others in order to be fired. A case of WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway? Nope - a gun has only one purpose, and that's to kill people. He chose it in order to be more intimidating!
* Why does Megatron allow himself to be wielded in gun mode by Starscream, whom he hates and distrusts? Because when he's the weapon in Starscream's hand, Megatron becomes the only thing Starscream CAN'T shoot.
* As [[https://youtu.be/E2DA8SJxKAM this video]] touches on, there's a lot of Fridge Brilliance tucked into Megatron's alt mode. First, his shots seem more powerful when transformed, providing an incentive for him to transform to be shot instead of shooting himself with his massive ArmCannon. It also might make sense that this is the case: depending on how Transformer mass-shifting works, the energy of his Fusion Cannon might be "compressed" in his smaller gun mode, making the blasts more focused... essentially making his gun mode shots an ArmorPiercingAttack. Second, he's actually demonstrating a commendable leadership quality, trusting his subordinates to do the job he's assigned them, literally placing himself in their hands to see it done. Third, sometimes his ability to communicate is all mode is diminished or absent, meaning he's essentially turning tactical command of the battle over to another Decepticon, again showing trust but also that Megatron might realize his limitations -- a tactical thinker he is assuredly not. Finally, he didn't actually choose that alt form, it was foisted on him by Teletraan-1. The Decepticons seem to have no means of reconfiguring their alt modes, so Megatron is stuck with it and doing the best he can with what he's got.
* A combination of Brilliance and Horror: it's established that the Autobots and Decepticons were originally created for to be labor drones and combat droids respectively. The horror comes from the fact that this basically means that the only reason the Decepticons fight it because they’re subconsciously acting out their programming and all the talk about power, glory and destiny are just rationalizations. The brilliance comes from the fact that this means that the reason the Autobots always win in the end is because they GrewBeyondTheirProgramming and took up the sword.

[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* The HatePlague episodes: It's established that the plague went beyond earth to other planets, to the point that the entire galaxy was threatened. Imagine the kind of destruction unleashed on earth occurring everywhere else in the galaxy. That's a death toll measuring so high that there might not be a number large enough to catalog the amount of lives lost. That scene of the two humans apologizing for weaponizing the plague is likely very their last action on earth before they're imprisoned some where in space or executed.
* In "Ghost In The Machine", Unicron wanted Starscream to connect him to Cybertron so he could reformat it into his new body. Knowing what we know now about the TF mythos, especially the fact that Cybertron essentially IS Primus in physical form... just what WOULD have happened if that had occurred?
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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!

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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!Energon to make sure Earth's resources can be safely refined!
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* In "The Rebirth, Part 3", the Combaticons are seen building the giant engines on Cybertron. Normally you'd expect the Constructicons to do this, but by this time, their toys had been discontinued, so it made no sense to shill them when the Combaticons were still available.
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* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the Matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the Matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was a welcome relief for him.

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* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the Matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the Matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was back was a welcome relief for him.

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* During the ''Target: 2006'' storyline, Unicron is revealed to have ensnared the minds of Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr so they could go back and sabotage Galvatron's plan, calling the process "laughably simple". If that's the case, than why did he even bother sending Galvatron after the Matrix, when he could have just compelled a group of random Autobots to ambush Ultra Magnus and destroy the Matrix?

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* During the ''Target: 2006'' storyline, Unicron is revealed to have ensnared the minds of Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr so they could go back and sabotage Galvatron's plan, calling the process "laughably simple". If that's the case, than why did he even bother sending Galvatron after the Matrix, when he could have just compelled a group of random Autobots to ambush Ultra Magnus and destroy it?
* It is eventully revealed that
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entire Transformers race were meant to be Primus' ultimate defense against Unicron. If they were meant to battle Unicron, then why did Primus make them so small compared to him? When Unicron finally shows up, he easily crushes many Transformers. If they were supposed to battle Unicron, then making them a mere fraction of his size was an incredibly poor design.
* Prior to Unicron's arrival, it is revealed that a group of early Transformers were infected by Unicron's evil, and instructed to [[TheMole lie in wait]] until Primus announced who would lead his children into battle, and attack him. How did those guys manage to survive the Autobot/Decepticon war? Countless members on both sides were wiped out, yet Unicron's followers somehow managed to survive in enough numbers to give Optimus Prime and Scorponok trouble.
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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!\

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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!\Energon!
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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!

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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!
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* In "More than Meets the Eye, Part 2", Starscream ends up seriously inconveniencing the Decepticons because he felt the need to test some Energon cubes. This may seem like a boneheaded move, but remember: Starscream used to be a scientist. ''Of course'' he'd want to test the Energon!

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* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was a welcome relief for him.

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* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the matrix, Matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the matrix Matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was a welcome relief for him.him.

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[[AC:FridgeLogic]]
* Several times, the Ark is said to contain "secrets" that would result in disaster if they ever fell into Decepticon hands. This raises some questions:
** If those "secrets" are so potentially devastating, why didn't the Autobots ever use them against the Decepticons?
** If the Ark is that important, than why would the Autobots risk it by using it to clear away the asteroid field that threatened Cybertron? They could have achieved the same results with a fleet of smaller, less important ships.
* During the ''Target: 2006'' storyline, Unicron is revealed to have ensnared the minds of Hot Rod, Kup and Blurr so they could go back and sabotage Galvatron's plan, calling the process "laughably simple". If that's the case, than why did he even bother sending Galvatron after the Matrix, when he could have just compelled a group of random Autobots to ambush Ultra Magnus and destroy the Matrix?

[[AC:FridgeHorror]]
* The Decepticons forced the Neutralist scientist Spanner not only to build the Space Bridge, but become a part of it. Many issues later, the Decepticons are shown to have adopted a new, more efficient method of transport. This raises the question of what became of the Space Bridge and Spanner. Was he dismantled, repurposed, or even destroyed (as the Decepticons had [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness no more use for him]])?
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* Why did Rodimus so easily accept Optimus reclaiming the Matrix? Because in the ''previous'' episode we saw that he was struggling with the weight of the matrix, he happily embraced the loss of the matrix and only took it back because he had no other choice. The fact that the one he always knew was the worthier warrior was a welcome relief for him.

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