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** The machine might effectively "jump" from one time to another without passing through the interval between them. In which case, it doesn't risk intersecting with objects that pass through its spatial location during the intervening period, any more than a person who's beamed down from the ''U.S.S. Enterprise'' needs to worry about colliding with the ship's hull. The progressive changes the TT reports - the sprouting and vanishing trees, the twinkle of days and nights passing, etc - aren't really happening; they're something his mind constructs to deal with the confusion of the transition.



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**** FridgeBrilliance He tried traveling forward in time in the exact same spot he came back in time and is the reason he never came back.

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** On the other hand, the scene in the library suggests that natural decay has been greatly slowed through the extinction of most bacteria and fungi that would normally cause decay.


*** A novella published in {{Analog}} in [[TheEighties the 1980s]] addressed these points (the following is a paraphrase, maybe somebody could find the story to correct the quote): "All time-travel stories have assumed that the traveller becomes intangible. They have also assumed that the traveller is affected by Earth's gravity and thus doesn't go floating off into space. Put these two effects together and you don't have ''The Time Machine'', you have ''JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth''."

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*** A novella published in {{Analog}} ''Magazine/{{Analog}}'' in [[TheEighties the 1980s]] addressed these points (the following is a paraphrase, maybe somebody could find the story to correct the quote): "All time-travel stories have assumed that the traveller becomes intangible. They have also assumed that the traveller is affected by Earth's gravity and thus doesn't go floating off into space. Put these two effects together and you don't have ''The Time Machine'', you have ''JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth''.''Literature/JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth''."



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**** If that's the case, it's a good thing the Morlocks moved the machine before it made its next trip. I hope the traveler realizes this before he tries occupying either same spot again.


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*** A novella published in {{Analog}} in [[TheEighties the 1980s]] addressed these points (the following is a paraphrase, maybe somebody could find the story to correct the quote): "All time-travel stories have assumed that the traveller becomes intangible. They have also assumed that the traveller is affected by Earth's gravity and thus doesn't go floating off into space. Put these two effects together and you don't have ''The Time Machine'', you have ''JourneyToTheCenterOfTheEarth''."

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*** Maybe it became a "haunted spot" where something invisible instantly annihilates anything that is inserted in that space, like an object moving at relativistic speeds would destroy anything it came in contact with?

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** Never mind not being able to see the time machine -- I can't believe that over the course of 800,000 years nobody walked through the space that the time machine occupied, or built a wall across it.

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*** Well one way to explain it, consistent with the temperature changes the traveller experiences, would be to say that, for example the time machine experiences one microsecond every hour - if you happen to be looking at the right place at the right time you might catch a flash of it, but will probably not notice it. However, for the guy in the 'time bubble' each microsecond of contact with the normal world, if the normal world around you is a glacier, will cause temperature decrease.


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*** Clearly he does move in space then, in a manner consistent with the Earth's gravitational field. It's a lot easier to explain how to avoid this problem with a 'static' time machine which gradually moves through time than e.g. a Delorean which travels instantaneously.

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** I think it can be best put thusly: According to Newton, yes everything is in motion, but there still is some absolute framework of space and time that motion can be compared to. But Einstein came along and showed that, no, there is no absolute space ''at all''. It's not that we can't measure it, ''it doesn't physically exist''. There is, however, a four-dimensional block of absolute space-time with events sprinkled within it. We see space as three-dimensional "cross-section" of this block with our motion dictating how the "cross-section" is sliced. If we change our motion, and we change how the block is sliced (an excellent illustration [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lorentz_transform_of_world_line.gif here]]) So, for our time machine, saying that travelling through time would mean it would leave Earth and end up in space is not necessary justified by the physics. It's possible that it would remain on its original path and stay on Earth.

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** For all we know the reason the Eloi and the Morlocks have no disease is the result of genetic tinkering or immunization which would make them immune to all diseases, past and future. Smallpox may be almost wiped out, but we still immunize against it.




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** I don't mean to pile on to anyone, but I'd like to add to the "what about space" question which is often brought up in discussions of TimeTravel. Given that not only the Earth, but the sun, the rest of the galaxy, and the local group of galaxies are all constantly moving relative to other celestial objects just what should a time machine be "still" relative ''to''? "Earth" is just as good an answer as anything else. To put it another way, it's not just about the fact that velocity is relative, but location is, too. There are no absolute coordinates in space, no "center point" in the universe where the coordinates are 0, 0, 0.



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