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* Related to the above, the very first memory Jonas gets (in both book and movie) is sledding down a hill in winter. Because of the season, the only colors in that memory would be the red of the sleigh and perhaps a few other dull colors in the bark of the trees and his own winter clothes. It was very smart of the Giver to use that particular memory, since not only is it peaceful and pleasant, but it also won't overwhelm the new Receiver with a whole bunch of colors. And on top of that, it's a perfect way of explaining why Sameness came about--seasons and uneven terrain make growing and transporting food much less efficient.
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* One for the series as a whole. In ''Son'', Claire's attitude towards Gabriel in the first section is a little bit weird given her background: she immediately thinks of Gabriel as ''her'' son, even though she's never been exposed to that concept (that children are the sons or daughters of the woman who birthed them), and she also uses words like "boy" and "baby" in her internal monologue that aren't in the community's vocabulary (they would have exclusively used the terms "male" and "newchild"). Then I realized: there was one time in her life when Claire was potentially ''was'' exposed to those things. According to the series timeline, Claire would have been about five when Rosemary was Released (it was ten years before Jonas was named Receiver, so Jonas would have been two, and Claire is three years older than him). The Giver states in the first story that one of Rosemary's memories involved a child taken from its mother. Claire still has bits or fragments of Rosemary's memories, likely suppressed but not erased. And while most Birthmothers only experience emotions while pregnant, Claire was never put back on the emotion-suppressing pills, so she continued to experience emotions after the delivery, including the emotions that came with being separated from her "Product" (baby). That emotional experience was similar enough to Rosemary's memory that it triggered that memory and potentially other memories that connected to it as well, not so much that she actively remembered them, but enough that those words and concepts slipped into her consciousness.
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* One for the series as a whole. In ''Son'', Claire's attitude towards Gabriel in the first section is a little bit weird abnormal given her background: she immediately thinks of Gabriel as ''her'' son, even though she's never been exposed to that concept (that children are the sons or daughters of the woman who birthed them), and she also uses words like "boy" and "baby" in her internal monologue that aren't in the community's vocabulary (they would have exclusively used the terms "male" and "newchild"). Then I realized: there was one time in her life when Claire was potentially ''was'' exposed to those things. According to the series timeline, Claire would have been about five when Rosemary was Released (it was ten years before Jonas was named Receiver, so Jonas would have been two, and Claire is three years older than him). The Giver states in the first story that one of Rosemary's memories involved a child taken from its mother. Claire still has bits or fragments of Rosemary's memories, likely suppressed but not erased. And while most Birthmothers only experience emotions while pregnant, Claire was never put back on the emotion-suppressing pills, so she continued to experience emotions after the delivery, including the emotions that came with being separated from her "Product" (baby). That emotional experience was similar enough to Rosemary's memory that it triggered that memory and potentially other memories that connected to it as well, not so much that she actively remembered them, but enough that those words and concepts slipped into her consciousness.consciousness.
** It's also possible that Claire was uniquely sensitive to these memories in some way, and that this was linked to the reason that she was able to bear a child with Receiver abilities. How exactly this works is never revealed so it's all speculation, but given how few Receiver-capable children there are, it's possible that both parents have to have some kind of DNA susceptibility for that to happen.
** It's also possible that Claire was uniquely sensitive to these memories in some way, and that this was linked to the reason that she was able to bear a child with Receiver abilities. How exactly this works is never revealed so it's all speculation, but given how few Receiver-capable children there are, it's possible that both parents have to have some kind of DNA susceptibility for that to happen.
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* The first memory of color the Giver shows Jonas in the film is a sunset at sea. Notably, that memory contains red, yellow, and blue all together--so that now he's seen all the primary colors, and can therefore see all the others as well.
* Rosemary applies for Release after experiencing a child's sense of loss. She's no doubt experienced physical pain before--falling and scratching her knee, getting a finger stuck in a door, etc--but this was the first time she's ''ever'' experienced emotional pain. Combined with how she probably didn't really understand death (as noted below), her application for Release makes more sense.
* Rosemary applies for Release after experiencing a child's sense of loss. She's no doubt experienced physical pain before--falling and scratching her knee, getting a finger stuck in a door, etc--but this was the first time she's ''ever'' experienced emotional pain. Combined with how she probably didn't really understand death (as noted below), her application for Release makes more sense.
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*** Not only that, but they give birth around fourteen after being pampered for a year, are pampered another year and a half or so between the next two pregnancies and by around eighteen are deemed unfit for further births and relegated to laborers. And if Mother's reaction is any indication, are seen as lowest of the low.
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*** The Giver also explains in the book that Jonas's father didn't understand what he was doing, either. Jonas is appropriately horrified when he realizes that his father killed a baby, and the Giver tells him that his father ''didn't know'' that what he was doing was even wrong. So yes, at least some of the community ''does not get'' that "release" actually means "death."
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** Full-on Releasing a child with a lisp or hearing impairment seems unlikely, given that Asher was "only" punished instead of Released despite apparently messing up several times. Repeatedly hitting a child for something that isn't their fault is still pretty awful, though, and it's certainly possible they ''could'' be released as teenagers or adults if it turns out their speech or hearing impediments continue or get worse.
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** Lowry addressed this a bit more in ''Son'', the last of three sequels to ''The Giver''; it's a different type of FridgeBrilliance. Pregnancy and childbirth (especially the latter) are still difficult and painful -- although potentially less so than they are in our universe -- but the entire process is kept isolated from the community at large. Only a specific subset of the community is involved in any way with the birthing process, and they're presumably under orders not to talk about it to anyone else. The Community at large literally doesn't know that pregnancy and childbirth are hard. They see girls sitting around not being required to "work" as they understand the term, and they don't have the empathy or curiosity to look farther.
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** Lowry addressed this a bit more in ''Son'', the last of three sequels to ''The Giver''; it's a different type of FridgeBrilliance. Pregnancy and While the difficulty of pregnancy is mitigated a bit by the fact that their entire job is being pregnant (as opposed to the modern world where pregnant women will almost always have ''some'' level of other obligations), childbirth (especially the latter) are is still difficult and painful -- although potentially less so painful, albeit possibly to a lesser degree than they are it is in our universe world -- but ''no one else knows that''. If you think about it, the world at large being generally familiar with the nature of pregnancy and childbirth (at least enough to know that it's no easy feat) is only the case because of the way such things work in our world, namely that enough women go through the process that most people will have ''some'' experience with it, either by being pregnant themselves or knowing someone who is, and these kinds of details have seeped into the cultural consciousness as a result. In the ''Giver'' universe, the entire process is kept isolated from the community at large. Only a specific subset of large; only the community is involved in any way with Birthmothers themselves and a handful of other people (like the birthing process, doctors) know the truth about what it's really like, and they're presumably under orders not to talk about it to anyone else. The Community at large literally doesn't know that pregnancy and childbirth are hard. They All they see is girls sitting around not being required to "work" as they understand the term, and they don't since they've pretty much been programmed not to have the empathy or curiosity to look farther.beyond that, they just assume that what they perceive is the full extent of it.
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* Asher gets chastised repeatedly for mispronouncing words as a child. What would happen if the child has a lisp or a hearing impairment and doesn't pronounce words correctly. Are they repeatedly chastised or even Released because they aren't conforming to the Community's standards?
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** Not to mention Gabriel being released because he wouldn't sleep through the night. We know there's a "three strikes" rule, and if the above examples are any indication, what "crimes" are these people committing that leads them to be Released?
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*** Imagine being the poor kid, who is already panicking because something is wrong, and to hear that he'll be released, over the community speakers and knowing what's in store (sort of) when he gets back.
** Not to mention Gabriel being released because he wouldn't sleep through the night. We know there's a "three strikes" rule, and if the above examples are any indication, what "crimes" are these people committing that leads them to beReleased?
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** Lowry addressed this a bit more in ''Son'', the last of three sequels to ''The Giver''; it's a different type of FridgeBrilliance. Pregnancy and childbirth (especially the latter) are still difficult and painful, but the entire process is kept isolated from the community at large. Only a specific subset of the community is involved in any way with the birthing process, and they're presumably under orders not to talk about it to anyone else. The Community at large literally doesn't know that pregnancy and childbirth are hard. They see girls sitting around not being required to "work" as they understand the term, and they don't have the empathy or curiosity to look farther.
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** Lowry addressed this a bit more in ''Son'', the last of three sequels to ''The Giver''; it's a different type of FridgeBrilliance. Pregnancy and childbirth (especially the latter) are still difficult and painful, painful -- although potentially less so than they are in our universe -- but the entire process is kept isolated from the community at large. Only a specific subset of the community is involved in any way with the birthing process, and they're presumably under orders not to talk about it to anyone else. The Community at large literally doesn't know that pregnancy and childbirth are hard. They see girls sitting around not being required to "work" as they understand the term, and they don't have the empathy or curiosity to look farther.
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*** The fact that blue (or at least, light) eyes are such an incredible rarity might support that.
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** Not to mention Gabriel being released because he wouldn't sleep through the night. We know there's a "three strikes" rule, and if the above examples are any indication, what "crimes" are these people committing that leads them to be Released?
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** Or it's like Twilight Sleep births were: they are just amnesiac to the pain.
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* Outside the Community, [[CoolBike bicycles with disc wheels]] would be "aesthetically interesting, but inconvenient" ([[Awesome, but Impractical]]), due to crosswinds making them a lot harder to control and negating any gains in aerodynamic efficiency. Inside the Community however, the climate control system also eliminates any crosswinds. Also, the bicycles are most likely electric bikes (to offset any physical differences between community members in the pursuit of Sameness), so the enclosed disc wheels would be the perfect low-maintenance place to store motors, batteries, regenerative braking, wireless charging and tracking devices. And because Community members have strict schedules and rules regarding parking, they might even be completely in the dark as to their bikes being electrically-assisted.
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* Outside the Community, [[CoolBike bicycles with disc wheels]] would be "aesthetically "[[AwesomeButImpractical aesthetically interesting, but inconvenient" ([[Awesome, but Impractical]]), inconvenient]]", due to crosswinds making them a lot harder to control and negating any gains in aerodynamic efficiency. Inside the Community however, the climate control system also eliminates any crosswinds. Also, the bicycles are most likely electric bikes (to offset any physical differences between community members in the pursuit of Sameness), so the enclosed disc wheels would be the perfect low-maintenance place to store motors, batteries, regenerative braking, wireless charging and tracking devices. And because Community members have strict schedules and rules regarding parking, they might even be completely in the dark as to their bikes being electrically-assisted.
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* Outside the Community, bicycles with disc wheels would be [[Awesome, but Impractical]], due to crosswinds making them a lot harder to control and negating any gains in aerodynamic efficiency. Inside the Community however, the climate control system also eliminates any crosswinds. Also, the bicycles are most likely electric bikes (to offset any physical differences between community members in the pursuit of Sameness), so the enclosed disc wheels would be the perfect low-maintenance place to store motors, batteries, regenerative braking, wireless charging and tracking devices. And because Community members have strict schedules and rules regarding parking, they might even be completely in the dark as to their bikes being electrically-assisted.
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* Outside the Community, [[CoolBike bicycles with disc wheels wheels]] would be [[Awesome, "aesthetically interesting, but Impractical]], inconvenient" ([[Awesome, but Impractical]]), due to crosswinds making them a lot harder to control and negating any gains in aerodynamic efficiency. Inside the Community however, the climate control system also eliminates any crosswinds. Also, the bicycles are most likely electric bikes (to offset any physical differences between community members in the pursuit of Sameness), so the enclosed disc wheels would be the perfect low-maintenance place to store motors, batteries, regenerative braking, wireless charging and tracking devices. And because Community members have strict schedules and rules regarding parking, they might even be completely in the dark as to their bikes being electrically-assisted.
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* Outside the Community, bicycles with disc wheels would be [[Awesome, but Impractical]], due to crosswinds making them a lot harder to control and negating any gains in aerodynamic efficiency. Inside the Community however, the climate control system also eliminates any crosswinds. Also, the bicycles are most likely electric bikes (to offset any physical differences between community members in the pursuit of Sameness), so the enclosed disc wheels would be the perfect low-maintenance place to store motors, batteries, regenerative braking, wireless charging and tracking devices. And because Community members have strict schedules and rules regarding parking, they might even be completely in the dark as to their bikes being electrically-assisted.
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** This is still pretty gross considering the implications, because even if the girls can ''physically'' give birth, it still doesn't erase the fact that all of them are still mentally and emotionally naive children being impregnated involuntarily; even if the girls are incapable of being traumatized by the experience because of the lack of emotions and pain, [[QuestionableConsent they still are being appointed as breeding fodder by a council that couldn't care less about whether they want to or not, and whom the children are conditioned from a young age to accept the words of as absolute truth.]]
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** This is still pretty gross considering the implications, because even if the girls can ''physically'' give birth, it still doesn't erase the fact that all of them are still mentally and emotionally naive children being impregnated involuntarily; even if the girls are incapable of being traumatized by the experience because of the lack of emotions and pain, [[QuestionableConsent they still are being appointed as breeding fodder by a council that couldn't care less about whether they want to or not, and whom the children are conditioned from a young age to accept the words of as absolute truth.]]
]] Say if the girl Jonas mentions early in the book didn't actually want to be a Birthmother, but felt she had to because the Council had decided it for her, just like how Jonas was nervous about being the Giver?
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** This is still pretty gross considering the implications, because even if the girls can ''physically'' give birth, it still doesn't erase the fact that all of them are basically children being impregnated involuntarily; even if the girls are incapable of being traumatized by the experience because of the lack of emotions and pain, they still are being appointed as breeding fodder by a council that doesn't care at all about whether they want to or not, and whom the children are conditioned from a young age to accept their word as absolute truth.
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** This is still pretty gross considering the implications, because even if the girls can ''physically'' give birth, it still doesn't erase the fact that all of them are basically still mentally and emotionally naive children being impregnated involuntarily; even if the girls are incapable of being traumatized by the experience because of the lack of emotions and pain, [[QuestionableConsent they still are being appointed as breeding fodder by a council that doesn't couldn't care at all less about whether they want to or not, and whom the children are conditioned from a young age to accept their word the words of as absolute truth.
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** This is still pretty gross considering the implications, because even if the girls can ''physically'' give birth, it still doesn't erase the fact that all of them are basically children being impregnated involuntarily; even if the girls are incapable of being traumatized by the experience because of the lack of emotions and pain, they still are being appointed as breeding fodder by a council that doesn't care at all about whether they want to or not, and whom the children are conditioned from a young age to accept their word as absolute truth.
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* The Birthmothers are much more horrifying as a concept once you realize how much control the Community has. A young girl at around 13 years old is picked by a group of older people to eventually ''give birth'', and she has no power to refuse them (not that she even sees it as a possibility). Even if the Birthmother is "willing" in the process, because she has no real choice in the matter, the Community essentially populates via ''state-sanctioned rape.''
** Also, all of the Birthmothers start getting pregnant at around 16 years old, which, even if they age quicker in the Giver's universe due to genetic tampering or something, is still pretty squeaky considering that it's basically [[WifeHusbandry a young mother being groomed to eventually have enough babies to fill a quota.]] We also don't know how old the fathers are to these women, [[{{Squick}} so it very well could be sperm donated from an older man whose just as clueless about how screwed up it is as she is.]]
** Also, all of the Birthmothers start getting pregnant at around 16 years old, which, even if they age quicker in the Giver's universe due to genetic tampering or something, is still pretty squeaky considering that it's basically [[WifeHusbandry a young mother being groomed to eventually have enough babies to fill a quota.]] We also don't know how old the fathers are to these women, [[{{Squick}} so it very well could be sperm donated from an older man whose just as clueless about how screwed up it is as she is.]]
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** Also, the later books indicate that the part of the world that centers around Sameness is only one region, perhaps the equivalent of a country, while other parts of the world have different ways of living (like Kira's town in ''Gathering Blue'', the Village in ''Messenger'', and the valley town that Claire lives with for a while in ''Son''). So people who didn't like the idea of Sameness probably just formed their own communities somewhere else.
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* One for the series as a whole. In ''Son'', Claire's attitude towards Gabriel is a little bit weird given her background: she immediately thinks of Gabriel as ''her'' son, even though she's never been exposed to that concept (that children are the sons or daughters of the woman who birthed them), and she also uses words like "boy" and "baby" that aren't in the community's vocabulary. Then I realized: there was one time in her life when Claire was potentially ''was'' exposed to those things. According to the series timeline, Claire would have been about five when Rosemary was Released. And one of Rosemary's memories was of a child separated from its parents. We're never told exactly how the issue of Rosemary's memories was handled; if Claire still retained some shadow or fragment of them, even if she wasn't conscious of it, the birth and what happened after could have subtly triggered those fragments, enough for those words and concepts to slip into her thought process.
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** Only the elderly and newborns can be looked at naked ''by the average Community member''. Job-bases exceptions to rules are stated to exist: Jonas is exempted from rules about lying and rudeness, and ''Son'' says that the Birthmothers are taken off the "Stirrings" pills (presumably because the mechanism would interfere with the pregnancy in some way). Along the same lines, doctors would be exempt from rules about nudity because such an exemption is necessary to do their jobs.
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** Only the elderly and newborns can be looked at naked ''by the average Community member''. Job-bases Job-based exceptions to rules are stated to exist: Jonas is exempted from rules about lying and rudeness, and ''Son'' says that the Birthmothers are taken off the "Stirrings" pills (presumably because the mechanism would interfere with the pregnancy in some way). Along the same lines, doctors would be exempt from rules about nudity because such an exemption is necessary to do their jobs.
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** Given the level of maturity shown by the children (starting full-time work by the time they're 13), [[FrideBrilliance it could be]] that their aging process is accelerated in some way (or, conversely, their years are somehow longer than ours); after all, they never do say how old the adults actually are. Aging up the teens in the movie was largely a cinematic choice, but one could posit that they weren't really "aged up" so much as that a Community 12-year-old is equivalent to a modern 15 or 16-year-old. It still means girls are giving birth young, but not quite as horrifically young (at least in terms of physical development) as the numbers would suggest.
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** Given the level of maturity shown by the children (starting full-time work by the time they're 13), [[FrideBrilliance [[FridgeBrilliance it could be]] that their aging process is accelerated in some way (or, conversely, their years are somehow longer than ours); after all, they never do say how old the adults actually are. Aging up the teens in the movie was largely a cinematic choice, but one could posit that they weren't really "aged up" so much as that a Community 12-year-old is equivalent to a modern 15 or 16-year-old. It still means girls are giving birth young, but not quite as horrifically young (at least in terms of physical development) as the numbers would suggest.
