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* While trying to get Tod to understand the harsh reality that Copper, as a hunting dog, will have to become his enemy, Big Mama, Dinky, and Boomer show him Amos's shack of animal skins. At least one fox pelt can be seen. It's very possible that among all those skins is the skin of ''Tod's mother,'' and he might have been looking right at her (though if this is the case he doesn't seem aware of it, thank goodness).

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* While trying to get Tod to understand the harsh reality that Copper, as a hunting dog, will have to become his enemy, Big Mama, Dinky, and Boomer show him Amos's shack of animal skins. At least one fox pelt can be seen. It's very possible that among all those skins is the skin of ''Tod's mother,'' and he might have been looking right at her (though if this is the case he doesn't seem aware of it, thank goodness).goodness).
* Between the burning grass and Copper, Tod chose to try his luck by jumping through the flames. Copper used to be Tod's best friend, and now he became ''scarier than the fire''.

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** In the time period this takes place in, especially in a rural home, this would have been normal animal care. Doesn't make it any better or more sensible, but it fits the mentality of the time.




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** Panic, most likely. Amos probably wasn't thinking rationally, and even as a man with obvious survival experience, it's quite possible that in the chaos pulling the post out of the ground didn't occur to him.
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* While trying to get Tod to understand the harsh reality that Copper, as a hunting dog, will have to become his enemy, Big Mama, Dinky, and Boomer show him Amos's shack of animal skins. At least one fox pelt can be seen. It's very possible that, among all those skins is the skin of ''Tod's mother,'' and he might have been looking right at her (though if this is the case he doesn't seem aware of it, thank goodness).

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* While trying to get Tod to understand the harsh reality that Copper, as a hunting dog, will have to become his enemy, Big Mama, Dinky, and Boomer show him Amos's shack of animal skins. At least one fox pelt can be seen. It's very possible that, that among all those skins is the skin of ''Tod's mother,'' and he might have been looking right at her (though if this is the case he doesn't seem aware of it, thank goodness).
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* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he traveled a long while to look at Copper and his old home one last time.

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* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he traveled a long while to look at Copper and his old home one last time.time.
* While trying to get Tod to understand the harsh reality that Copper, as a hunting dog, will have to become his enemy, Big Mama, Dinky, and Boomer show him Amos's shack of animal skins. At least one fox pelt can be seen. It's very possible that, among all those skins is the skin of ''Tod's mother,'' and he might have been looking right at her (though if this is the case he doesn't seem aware of it, thank goodness).
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* Tod survives the fall that kills the bear. One's first assumption would be that he should have suffered even more damage, but [[https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/tpece/why_are_smaller_animals_generally_able_to_survive/ less force is inflicted on animals with less mass in a fall]]. ("[[Literature/FeetOfClay A spider'll not even notice a drop like this, a mouse'd walk away, a horse'd break every bone in its body and an elephant would spla-]]")

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* Tod survives the fall that kills the bear. One's first assumption would be that he should have suffered even more damage, but [[https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/tpece/why_are_smaller_animals_generally_able_to_survive/ less force is inflicted on animals with less mass in a fall]]. ("[[Literature/FeetOfClay ("[[Discworld/FeetOfClay A spider'll not even notice a drop like this, a mouse'd walk away, a horse'd break every bone in its body and an elephant would spla-]]")
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* Tod survives the fall that kills the bear. One's first assumption would be that he should have suffered even more damage, but [[https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/tpece/why_are_smaller_animals_generally_able_to_survive/ less force is inflicted on animals with less mass in a fall]]. ("[[Literature/FeetOfClay A spider'll not even notice a drop like this, a mouse'd walk away, a horse'd break every bone in its body and an elephant would spla-]]")
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* The movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, [[Disney.{{Bambi}}]]-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.

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* The movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, [[Disney.{{Bambi}}]]-style.Disney/{{Bambi}}-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.
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* The movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, [[Disney/{{Bambi}}]]-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.

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* The movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, [[Disney/{{Bambi}}]]-style.[[Disney.{{Bambi}}]]-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.
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* The movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, [[Disney/Bambi]]-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.

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* The movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, [[Disney/Bambi]]-style.[[Disney/{{Bambi}}]]-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.
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* Slade is completely taken aback when Tod and Vixey jump through the burning grass blocking their escape from the foxhole. Any wild animal would instinctively flee fire, but Tod was semi-domesticated, and had been by Widow Tweed's fireplace before.
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* At the end, when the elusive caterpillar that Dinky and Boomer chase throughout the film turns into a butterfly, it's a reflection on the larger plot where the hunters and prey reconcile.
* When Copper starts leaving his barrel to go play with Todd, Chief makes a point to tell him how upset Amos will be about it. True to this prediction, Copper is put on a leash for his misbehavior. Before Copper started wandering off, what was the biggest difference in how Amos treated Chief and himself? Chief was always kept on a leash. He had been trying to warn Copper about losing his privileges the same way that he did when he was younger.

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* At the end, when Squeaks, the elusive caterpillar that Dinky and Boomer chase throughout the film film, turns into a butterfly, it's a reflection on the larger plot where the hunters and prey reconcile.
* When Copper starts leaving his barrel to go play with Todd, Tod, Chief makes a point to tell him how upset Amos Slade will be about it. True to this prediction, Copper is put on a leash for his misbehavior. Before Copper started wandering off, what was the biggest difference in how Amos Slade treated Chief and himself? Copper? Chief was always kept on a leash. He had been trying to warn Copper about losing his privileges the same way that he did when he was younger.



* Why did Amos keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! [[FridgeHorror A puppy Copper's size could get]] ''[[FridgeHorror eaten]]'' [[FridgeHorror if it wanders too far.]]
* Is Slate going to be arrested for trespassing onto a game preserve? Hunting license or not Slate was ''poaching'' because of a petty vendetta.

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* Why did Amos Slade keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos Slade have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! [[FridgeHorror A puppy Copper's size could get]] ''[[FridgeHorror eaten]]'' [[FridgeHorror if it wanders too far.]]
* Is Slate Slade going to be arrested for trespassing onto a game preserve? Hunting license or not Slate not, Slade was ''poaching'' all because of a petty vendetta. vendetta.



* During the bear attack, Amos struggles to reach for his gun since his foot is caught in one of his traps. The trap is clearly seen being held down by a post; it would probably take less effort to pull it out of the ground and go for the gun rather than try to pry the trap open.

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* During the bear attack, Amos Slade struggles to reach for his gun since his foot is caught in one of his traps. The trap is clearly seen being held down by a post; it would probably take less effort to pull it out of the ground and go for the gun rather than try to pry the trap open.



* The Fox and the Hound begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, Bambi-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.
** The fox's father isn't seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even harder to watch.]]

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* The Fox and the Hound movie begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, Bambi-style.[[Disney/Bambi]]-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.
** The fox's father isn't seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie Vixey can get away even harder to watch.]]

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* Although Tod was DemotedToExtra in the second film and Copper was shown to shine in the film, if you think about who was the protagonist and the most important character in the first film, you'll realize that the focus merely switched over from Tod to Copper.
** First film: Focused on Tod
** Second film: Focused on Copper

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* Although Tod was DemotedToExtra in the second film and Copper was shown to shine in the film, if you think about who was the protagonist and the most important character in the first film, you'll realize that the focus merely switched over from Tod to Copper.
** First film: Focused on Tod
** Second film: Focused on Copper

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* During the bear attack, Amos struggles to reach for his gun since his foot is caught in one of his traps. The trap is clearly seen being held down by a post; it would probably take less effort to pull it out of the ground and go for the gun rather than try to pry the trap open.
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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even harder to watch.]]
* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he travelled a long while to look at Copper and his old home one last time.

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** The fox's father isnt isn't seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even harder to watch.]]
* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he travelled traveled a long while to look at Copper and his old home one last time.
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* Chief is ''dramatically'' outshone in tracking abilities once Copper shows up. Old age? Not likely. Chief looks like a shaggy greyhound-esque breed or mix--lean, tall, long thin muzzle, small ears, no wrinkles. In other words, he's a ''sighthound.'' Sighthounds are bred for just that--flushing and chasing prey based on line-of-sight, working in tandem with the handler. ''Scenthounds'' like Copper have been designed through thousands of years of breeding to locate prey by smell alone. They're just built for different styles of hunting. Copper was always going to be better at the kind of tracking-heavy hunting style his master prefers.
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* When Tod is getting to know Vixey, Dinky and Boomer suddenly show up out of nowhere to watch them.
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* Is Slate going to be arrested for trespassing onto a game preserve? Hunting license or not Slate was ''poaching'' because of a petty vendetta.
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* Why did Amos keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! [[FridgeHorror A puppy Copper's size could get ''eaten'' if it wanders too far.]]

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* Why did Amos keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! [[FridgeHorror A puppy Copper's size could get ''eaten'' get]] ''[[FridgeHorror eaten]]'' [[FridgeHorror if it wanders too far.]]
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* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he travelled a long while to simply look at Copper and his old home one last time.

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* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he travelled a long while to simply look at Copper and his old home one last time.
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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even harder to watch.]]

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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even harder to watch.]]]]
* Although it's more like Fridge Sadness: The end of the film pans out on Tod watching Copper from a hill. It was earlier shown that the widow drove what was possibly hours getting Tod to the reservation, meaning he travelled a long while to simply look at Copper and his old home one last time.
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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even more harder to watch.]]

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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Copper so Vixie can get away even more harder to watch.]]
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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Chopper so Vixie can get away even more harder to watch.]]

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** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Chopper Copper so Vixie can get away even more harder to watch.]]
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* The Fox and the Hound begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, Bambi-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.

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* The Fox and the Hound begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, Bambi-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.hunt.
** The fox's father isnt seen despite foxes being monogamous and the fox fathers helping to raise the cubs. Shouldn't he have been helping to defend his mate and cub against the hunters unless..[[TearJerker ooh.]] It's likely the reason why Tod's mom was able to get her cub away safely for a while was probably because [[HeroicSacrifice her mate stayed behind to fend off the hounds or at least serve as a distraction.]] [[HarsherInHindsight In hindsight, this makes the scene where Tod confronts Chopper so Vixie can get away even more harder to watch.]]
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* Why did Amos keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! A puppy Copper's size could get ''eaten'' if it wanders too far.

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* Why did Amos keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! [[FridgeHorror A puppy Copper's size could get ''eaten'' if it wanders too far.
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* When Copper starts leaving his barrel to go play with Todd, Chief makes a point to tell him how upset Amos will be about it. True to this prediction, Copper is put on a leash for his misbehavior. Before Copper started wandering off, what was the biggest difference in how Amos treated Chief and himself? Chief was always kept on a leash. He had been trying to warn Copper about losing his privileges the same way that he did when he was younger.


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* Why did Amos keep Chief on a leash but let Copper go unrestrained? It's all well and good to teach your dog to stay near your house on its own accord while it's still young, but shouldn't Amos have been personally watching him during this learning period? There are wild animals all around their house! A puppy Copper's size could get ''eaten'' if it wanders too far.
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* At the end, when the elusive caterpillar that Dinky and Boomer chase throughout the film turns into a butterfly, it's a reflection on the larger plot where the hunters and prey reconcile.
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* Although Tod was DemotedToExtra in the second film and Copper was shown to shine in the film, if you think about who was the protagonist and the most important character in the first film, you'll realize that the focus merely switched over from Tod to Copper.
** First film: Focused on Tod
** Second film: Focused on Copper



* The Fox and the Hound begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, Bambi-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.

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* The Fox and the Hound begins with the baby fox's mother hiding him and sacrificing her own life for his, Bambi-style. However, foxes almost never have a single cub. This mother wasn't just carrying her baby to safety. She was carrying to safety the only baby of the litter who survived the hunt.

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