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* Did the husband and wife have an unhappy marriage due to him being a wimp and she more assertive, but with traditional Japanese society, it'd reflect poorly on both of them?
** Was the wife a full-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or maybe trying to find some way to shame her from beyond the grave? Could she have potentially had sex with the bandit to spite her husband, then lied about it so she wouldn't be looked down upon? Was the fragile and docile nature she displayed in court all a front so her story would be more believable?
** Did she actually goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
** Was the wife a full-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or maybe trying to find some way to shame her from beyond the grave? Could she have potentially had sex with the bandit to spite her husband, then lied about it so she wouldn't be looked down upon? Was the fragile and docile nature she displayed in court all a front so her story would be more believable?
** Did she actually goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
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* Did the husband and wife have an unhappy marriage due to him being a wimp and she more assertive, but with traditional traditional, honor-based Japanese society, it'd reflect poorly on both of them?
** Was the wife afull-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or maybe trying since he wanted to find some way to shame her from beyond the grave? grave because of her domineering personality? Could she have potentially had sex with the bandit to spite her husband, then lied about it so she wouldn't be looked down upon? Was the rejected by society? Or was her fragile and docile nature she displayed in court all a front so because of the trauma she'd just suffered made worse by her story would be more believable?
husband's rejection.
** Then there's the matter of whether there was a fight and who was responsible for the death. Did she actually goad the two into fightingeach other either or for the bandit to kill her and/or their own honor? However, did husband? What if Tajōmaru run truly ran away after considering it or during the fight, so thus claimed it was an epic clash and to save face, or maybe the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed upon being overwhelmed with emotions, the wife passed out after killing him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? made? Did the woodcutter take the dagger from his chest when she was unconscious and unconscious, then only say insist the bandit Tajōmari killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention away from it?
** Was the wife a
** Then there's the matter of whether there was a fight and who was responsible for the death. Did she actually goad the two into fighting
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** Was the wife a full-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or did she potentially have sex with the bandit to spite her husband and lied about it so she wouldn't be rejected by society.
** Did she goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
** Did she goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
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** Was the wife a full-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or did maybe trying to find some way to shame her from beyond the grave? Could she have potentially have had sex with the bandit to spite her husband and husband, then lied about it so she wouldn't be rejected by society.
looked down upon? Was the fragile and docile nature she displayed in court all a front so her story would be more believable?
** Did she actually goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
** Did she actually goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
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* Tajōmaru's version is actually quite close to the Woodcutter's, though made to depict him in a better light. Either he (almost) told the truth, or [[spoiler: the Woodcutter's version is a complete lie based on Tajōmaru's tale]].
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* Tajōmaru's version is actually quite close to the Woodcutter's, though made to depict him in a better light. Either he (almost) told the truth, or [[spoiler: the Woodcutter's version is a complete lie based on Tajōmaru's tale]].tale]].
* Did the husband and wife have an unhappy marriage due to him being a wimp and she more assertive, but with traditional Japanese society, it'd reflect poorly on both of them?
** Was the wife a full-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or did she potentially have sex with the bandit to spite her husband and lied about it so she wouldn't be rejected by society.
** Did she goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
* Did the husband and wife have an unhappy marriage due to him being a wimp and she more assertive, but with traditional Japanese society, it'd reflect poorly on both of them?
** Was the wife a full-blown villain in the husband's account because of how domineering she was? Was the sex actually rape, but with her personality, the husband believed it was consensual, or did she potentially have sex with the bandit to spite her husband and lied about it so she wouldn't be rejected by society.
** Did she goad the two into fighting each other either for her and/or their own honor? However, did Tajōmaru run away during the fight, so claimed it was an epic clash and the husband state he committed seppuku because he lost or possibly stabbed by his wife? Perhaps she killed him in a blind fit of rage after some form of ridicule he made, and being overwhelmed with emotions, passed out? Did the woodcutter take the dagger when she was unconscious and only say the bandit killed the husband because he wanted to draw attention from it?
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* FridgeBrilliance: Tajomaru’s [[ChewingTheScenery demeanor in court]] and during his flashback is very jarring―it’s not even scary, just unnatural, with his unnatural bursts of laughter and awkward body language. That’s probably because [[SmallNameBigEgo he’s lying]], and [[BeneathTheMask he’s just pretending to be a big-shot bandit]].
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* FridgeBrilliance: Tajomaru’s Tajōmaru’s [[ChewingTheScenery demeanor in court]] and during his flashback is very jarring―it’s not even scary, just unnatural, with his unnatural bursts of laughter and awkward body language. That’s probably because [[SmallNameBigEgo he’s lying]], and [[BeneathTheMask he’s just pretending to be a big-shot bandit]].
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** Why was the supposed actual fight between Tajomaru and the man so pathetic? If you look at each of the stories, both men paint each other in a positive light. Tajomaru interprets the man as willing to fight for the hand of his woman, while the man forgives Tajomaru for all he'd done and interprets him nobly and refusing to kill the man.
*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego. Tajomaru would much rather boast he won in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru the bandit as]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect Tajomaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.
*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego. Tajomaru would much rather boast he won in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru the bandit as]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect Tajomaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.
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** Why was the supposed actual fight between Tajomaru Tajōmaru and the man so pathetic? If you look at each of the stories, both men paint each other in a positive light. Tajomaru Tajōmaru interprets the man as willing to fight for the hand of his woman, while the man forgives Tajomaru Tajōmaru for all he'd done and interprets him nobly and refusing to kill the man.
*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego.Tajomaru Tajōmaru would much rather boast he won in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out drawn-out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru Tajōmaru the bandit as]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protectTajomaru Tajōmaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.
*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego.
** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect
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* Tajomaru's version is actually quite close to the Woodcutter's, though made to depict him in a better light. Either he (almost) told the truth, or [[spoiler:the Woodcutter's version is a complete lie based on Tajomaru's tale]].
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* Tajomaru's Tajōmaru's version is actually quite close to the Woodcutter's, though made to depict him in a better light. Either he (almost) told the truth, or [[spoiler:the [[spoiler: the Woodcutter's version is a complete lie based on Tajomaru's Tajōmaru's tale]].
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*** My general impression of the wife is that her secret nurtured dream was to become the main heroine of some breathtaking story. So she was not to deny herself this little joy, even if it meant effectively casting herself as the main villainess. It would also explain why she decided to give the testimony in the first place.
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*** My general impression of the wife is that her secret nurtured dream was to become the main heroine of some breathtaking story. So she was not to deny herself this little joy, even if it meant effectively casting herself as the main villainess. It would also explain why she decided to give the testimony in the first place.place.
* Tajomaru's version is actually quite close to the Woodcutter's, though made to depict him in a better light. Either he (almost) told the truth, or [[spoiler:the Woodcutter's version is a complete lie based on Tajomaru's tale]].
* Tajomaru's version is actually quite close to the Woodcutter's, though made to depict him in a better light. Either he (almost) told the truth, or [[spoiler:the Woodcutter's version is a complete lie based on Tajomaru's tale]].
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*** My general impression of the wife is that her secret nurtured dream was to become the main heroine of some breathtaking story. So she was not to refuse herself this little joy, even if it meant effectively casting herself as the main villainess.
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*** My general impression of the wife is that her secret nurtured dream was to become the main heroine of some breathtaking story. So she was not to refuse deny herself this little joy, even if it meant effectively casting herself as the main villainess.villainess. It would also explain why she decided to give the testimony in the first place.
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*** In her own way, the wife is painting herself every bit as self-servingly as the Bandit and her husband. Murdering her husband may be her own way of showing her scorn and contempt for him, though.
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*** In her own way, the wife is painting herself every bit as self-servingly as the Bandit and her husband. Murdering her husband may be her own way of showing her scorn and contempt for him, though.though.
*** My general impression of the wife is that her secret nurtured dream was to become the main heroine of some breathtaking story. So she was not to refuse herself this little joy, even if it meant effectively casting herself as the main villainess.
*** My general impression of the wife is that her secret nurtured dream was to become the main heroine of some breathtaking story. So she was not to refuse herself this little joy, even if it meant effectively casting herself as the main villainess.
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*** Alternatively, he might just as well lie about his six children. [[FridgeHorror Which makes us wonder why he really took that baby...]]
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** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect Tajomaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.
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** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect Tajomaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.infidelity.
*** In her own way, the wife is painting herself every bit as self-servingly as the Bandit and her husband. Murdering her husband may be her own way of showing her scorn and contempt for him, though.
*** In her own way, the wife is painting herself every bit as self-servingly as the Bandit and her husband. Murdering her husband may be her own way of showing her scorn and contempt for him, though.
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*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego. Tajomaru would much rather boast he lost in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru the depraved]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
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*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego. Tajomaru would much rather boast he lost won in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru the depraved]] bandit as]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
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* FridgeBrilliance: Tajomaru’s [[ChewingTheScenery demeanor in court]] and during his flashback is very jarring―it’s not even scary, just unnatural, with his unnatural bursts of laughter and awkward body language. That’s probably because [[SmallNameBigEgo he’s lying]], and [[BeneathTheMask he’s just pretending to be a big-shot bandit]].
** We are meant to think the woodcutter is lying about his story because [[spoiler: he stole the dagger.]] But if what he says about [[spoiler: having six other children to feed aside from the abandoned infant]] is true, he could easily be interpreted as [[spoiler: stealing the costly dagger]] to make ends meet. And all the other aspects of the story could very well be true.
** Why was the supposed actual fight between Tajomaru and the man so pathetic? If you look at each of the stories, both men paint each other in a positive light. Tajomaru interprets the man as willing to fight for the hand of his woman, while the man forgives Tajomaru for all he'd done and interprets him nobly and refusing to kill the man.
*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego. Tajomaru would much rather boast he lost in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru the depraved]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect Tajomaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.
** We are meant to think the woodcutter is lying about his story because [[spoiler: he stole the dagger.]] But if what he says about [[spoiler: having six other children to feed aside from the abandoned infant]] is true, he could easily be interpreted as [[spoiler: stealing the costly dagger]] to make ends meet. And all the other aspects of the story could very well be true.
** Why was the supposed actual fight between Tajomaru and the man so pathetic? If you look at each of the stories, both men paint each other in a positive light. Tajomaru interprets the man as willing to fight for the hand of his woman, while the man forgives Tajomaru for all he'd done and interprets him nobly and refusing to kill the man.
*** Or each man is lying further for his own ego. Tajomaru would much rather boast he lost in an epic duel with a noble master of the sword than say he got lucky in a drawn out WimpFight. The husband can make his wife look worse if he makes [[EvenEvilHasStandards even Tajomaru the depraved]] disgusted with her. The woodcutter's account of the fight shows two cowards--one a gentleman who may never have killed before, the other a bandit who probably uses shouts and sneak attacks to surprise his victims.
** If the wife claims she was raped, why did she have to go through all the trouble to protect Tajomaru in court, and confess to the murder of her own husband? It could be possible that the sex ''was'' consensual, and she was ashamed to confess her own infidelity.
