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* The reason why Adrien seem so upset at the end of "Evillustrator" and why he flirted with Marinette despite being in love with Ladybug. Since Adrien knows who Marinette is, he figured to try to be his real self, as he stated in his web video that he feels like his real self whenever he is Cat Noir. Since Ladybug take her job seriously, she couldn't date or share what kind of guy she likes so he figured to be the real him in front of Marinette and later ask her in his Adrien persona if Cat Noir is cool and woo her. It crushed him when she said Adrien is cooler than Cat Noir. To him, Adrien was his superhero atlas while Cat Noir is his real self, figuring deep down that no one would never love his real goofy self.
* The possible reason why Adrien is in love with Ladybug because Adrien usually meet girls who frown over him because of his good looks or wealth, while Ladybug treated him like himself. Even it isn't positive most of time, Adrien was happy and in love for some girl who is treating him as a normal guy and not a model that you try to woo him.

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* The reason why Adrien seem so upset at the end of "Evillustrator" and why he flirted with Marinette despite being in love with Ladybug. Since Adrien knows who Marinette is, he figured to try to be his real self, as he stated in his web video that he feels like his real self whenever he is Cat Noir. Since Ladybug take her job seriously, she couldn't date or share what kind of guy she likes so he figured to be the real him in front of Marinette and later ask her in his Adrien persona if Cat Noir is cool and woo her. It crushed him when she said Adrien is cooler than Cat Noir. To him, Adrien was his superhero atlas alias while Cat Noir is his real self, figuring deep down that no one would never love his real goofy self.
* The possible reason why Adrien is in love with Ladybug because Adrien usually meet girls who frown fawn over him because of his good looks or wealth, while Ladybug treated him like himself. Even it isn't positive most of time, Adrien was happy and in love for some girl who is treating him as a normal guy and not a model that you try to woo him.
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* Princess Fragrance not making Cat Noir give her his ring even when he's under control may seem idiotic, but there's actually a good reason for it. Aside from Cat, she still needs to get Ladybug's miraculous and the people she has with her are Chloe, Mayor Bourgeois, Prince Ali, and the schedule assistant. Not exactly people you would expect to do well in a fight against a superhero. Cat's the only one among them, aside from her, who can face Ladybug one-on-one.

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* Princess Fragrance not making Cat Noir give her his ring even when he's under control may seem idiotic, but there's actually a good reason for it. Aside from Cat, she She still needs to get Ladybug's miraculous and and, aside from Cat, the people she has with her are Chloe, Mayor Bourgeois, Prince Ali, and the schedule assistant. Not exactly people you would expect to do well in a fight against a superhero. Cat's Cat Noir's the only one among them, aside from her, them who can face fight Ladybug one-on-one.on an (almost) equal level.
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* Princess Fragrance not making Cat Noir give her his ring even when he's under control may seem idiotic, but there's actually a good reason for it. Aside from Cat, she still needs to get Ladybug's miraculous and the people she has with her are Chloe, Mayor Bourgeois, Prince Ali, and the schedule assistant. Not exactly people you would expect to do well in a fight against a superhero. Cat's the only one among them, aside from her, who can face Ladybug one-on-one.
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** In "Dark Cupid" Cat also states that he'd always wondered what happens when he attacks a person with Cataclysm, a power that decays whatever it touches to the point of destruction. It doesn't really take much imagination to picture how exactly Ladybug almost died.
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** More than a few villains have also come close to killing people - heck, Nathanael as the Evillustrator attacked Chloe with a buzzsaw at one point. Imagine if any of them ''had'' managed to get Ladybug and Cat's Miraculous. What reason would Hawk Moth have for keeping them transformed after that? Assuming Ladybug's purifying of the Akuma is what gives them said amnesia, an ordinary person would be released from their brainwashing only to find that they'd committed murder.
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* [[spoiler: Master Fu living up to his 180s makes sense as he possesses the turtle Miraculous. Turtles and tortoises are known for their long lifespans.]]
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** In the flashback arc, "Rise! Ladybug", this is revealed to be worse; if the akuma isn't caught and purified, it clones itself and randomly corrupts innocent bystanders.

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** [[spoiler: In the flashback arc, "Rise! Ladybug", this is revealed to be worse; if the akuma isn't caught and purified, it clones itself and randomly corrupts innocent bystanders.]]
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* In the first part of "Rise! Ladybug", a discouraged Marinette begins to take off her Miraculous. Tikki is horrified and begins to beg her to stop. Though not confirmed at this time, this gives credence to the {{Fanon}} that as long as Chat and Ladybug have their Miraculous, they're immune to akuma. Besides that, it's ''definitely'' canon that even if Adrien manages to transform and fight, he'll be caught in a losing battle until his energy runs out and be stuck in a constant loop while the akuma wrecks havoc on Paris.

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* [[spoiler: In the first part of "Rise! Ladybug", a discouraged Marinette begins to take off her Miraculous. Tikki is horrified and begins to beg her to stop. Though not confirmed at this time, this gives credence to the {{Fanon}} that as long as Chat and Ladybug have their Miraculous, they're immune to akuma. Besides that, it's ''definitely'' canon that even if Adrien manages to transform and fight, he'll be caught in a losing battle until his energy runs out and be stuck in a constant loop while the akuma wrecks havoc on Paris.]]
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** In the flashback arc, "Rise! Ladybug", this is revealed to be worse; if the akuma isn't caught and purified, it clones itself and randomly corrupts innocent bystanders.


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* In the first part of "Rise! Ladybug", a discouraged Marinette begins to take off her Miraculous. Tikki is horrified and begins to beg her to stop. Though not confirmed at this time, this gives credence to the {{Fanon}} that as long as Chat and Ladybug have their Miraculous, they're immune to akuma. Besides that, it's ''definitely'' canon that even if Adrien manages to transform and fight, he'll be caught in a losing battle until his energy runs out and be stuck in a constant loop while the akuma wrecks havoc on Paris.

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* The possible reason why Adrien is in love with Ladybug because Adrien usually meet girls who frown over him because of his good looks or wealth, while Ladybug treated him like himself. Even it isn't positive most of time, Adrien was happy and in love for some girl who is treating him as a normal guy and not a model that you try to woo him

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* The possible reason why Adrien is in love with Ladybug because Adrien usually meet girls who frown over him because of his good looks or wealth, while Ladybug treated him like himself. Even it isn't positive most of time, Adrien was happy and in love for some girl who is treating him as a normal guy and not a model that you try to woo him him.
* You would expect the whole classroom to fear their classmates after being turn into the MonsterOfTheWeek and would no longer talk to them. However, if you think about it, all of them have suffered the same fate and can't escape from it when suffering great emotional pain, making them able to relate to their problem and not pick on them or blaming them since they did the same thing.
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* The possible reason why Adrien is in love with Ladybug because Adrien usually meet girls who frown over him because of his good looks or wealth, while Ladybug treated him like himself. Even it isn't positive most of time, Adrien was happy and in love for some girl who is treating him as a normal guy and not a model that you try to woo him
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* The reason why Adrien seem so upset at the end of "Evillustrator" and why he flirted with Marinette despite being in love with Ladybug. Since Adrien knows who Marinette is, he figured to try to be his real self, as he stated in his web video that he feels like his real self whenever he is Cat Noir. Since Ladybug take her job seriously, she couldn't date or share what kind of guy she likes so he figured to be the real him in front of Marinette and later ask her in his Adrien persona if Cat Noir is cool and woo her. It crushed him when she said Adrien is cooler than Cat Noir. To him, Adrien was his superhero atlas while Cat Noir is his real self, figuring deep down that no one would never love his real goofy self.

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* If you happen to be in Miraculous's version of Paris, all it takes is one bad day to attract Hawk Moth's attention, and to send an akuma after you. You don't even have to speak French to understand him or his corruption.
* Ladybug and Cat Noir have secret identities, but the akuma victims often don't. People like Alya, Kim, [[spoiler: Sabrina, Chloe]] and Nathanael, who are minors, have been caught on video doing evil shenanigans. Although they have LaserGuidedAmnesia of what they were doing while corrupted, those identities are attached to them, as noted when Alya remarks on "Antibug" and "the Invisible One" coming to school.
* On that note, it wouldn't take a genius to link half the akuma attacks to Chloe, and by extension her father the mayor. If a candidate for the mayoral election wanted to play dirty, he or she could point out that the mayor's daughter is a huge moral hazard to Paris and thus the mayor is not fit for governance.



* It's sheer luck that Marinette gave an akuma plushie to Manon in "The Puppeteer," as opposed to the torn Ladybug doll or Cat Noir. If Manon had brought either Cat or Ladybug to life, not only would they have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, with one of them taking down the other to steal their Miraculous, but either of their identities would have been outed to [[IntrepidReporter Alya]] and everyone on the train.

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* It's sheer luck that Marinette gave an akuma plushie to Manon in "The Puppeteer," as opposed to the torn Ladybug doll or Cat Noir. If Manon Manon's akuma the Puppeteer had brought either Cat or Ladybug to life, not only would they have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, with one of them taking down the other to steal their Miraculous, but either of their identities would have been outed to [[IntrepidReporter Alya]] and everyone on the train.

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* The three akuma dolls Marinette made in "The Puppeteer" along with Ladybug and Chat Noir are Rogercop, Evillustrator, and Lady Wifi. They sound pretty random, but all three are connected to Marinette (and their reasons for being an akuma are even indirectly related to her).

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* The three akuma dolls Marinette made in "The Puppeteer" along with Ladybug and Chat Noir are Rogercop, Evillustrator, and Lady Wifi. They sound pretty random, but all three are connected to Marinette (and their reasons for being an akuma are even indirectly related to her).her and to Chloe).



** Nathanael was humiliated by Chloé in front of the class for his drawings he did of Marinette because he had a crush on her.
** Alya was suspended unfairly for trying to find proof of Chloé being Ladybug in her locker (whom is really Marinette), not to mention being her best friend.

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** Nathanael was humiliated by Chloé Chloe in front of the class for his drawings he did of Marinette because he had a crush on her.
** Alya was suspended unfairly for trying to find proof of Chloé Chloe being Ladybug in her locker (whom is really Marinette), not to mention being her best friend.


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* In "Dark Cupid", Cat while BrainwashedAndCrazy nearly killed Ladybug. In "The Puppeteer," he's more frantic than usual after learning that the titular akuma controls her victims through plushies, and Marinette happened to make a plushie of Cat. Likely he doesn't want to be forced to fight her again and relive the scenario.
* It's sheer luck that Marinette gave an akuma plushie to Manon in "The Puppeteer," as opposed to the torn Ladybug doll or Cat Noir. If Manon had brought either Cat or Ladybug to life, not only would they have been BrainwashedAndCrazy, with one of them taking down the other to steal their Miraculous, but either of their identities would have been outed to [[IntrepidReporter Alya]] and everyone on the train.
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** Agent Roger was fired by the mayor for refusing to arrest Marinette for stealing Chlo&ecute;'s bracelet without evidence.
** Nathanael was humiliated by Chlo&ecute; in front of the class for his drawings he did of Marinette because he had a crush on her.
** Alya was suspended unfairly for trying to find proof of Chlo&ecute; being Ladybug in her locker (whom is really Marinette), not to mention being her best friend.

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** Agent Roger was fired by the mayor for refusing to arrest Marinette for stealing Chlo&ecute;'s Chloé's bracelet without evidence.
** Nathanael was humiliated by Chlo&ecute; Chloé in front of the class for his drawings he did of Marinette because he had a crush on her.
** Alya was suspended unfairly for trying to find proof of Chlo&ecute; Chloé being Ladybug in her locker (whom is really Marinette), not to mention being her best friend.

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* In series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore lost the competition and was turned into a super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!

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* In a series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore lost the competition and was turned into a super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!


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* The three akuma dolls Marinette made in "The Puppeteer" along with Ladybug and Chat Noir are Rogercop, Evillustrator, and Lady Wifi. They sound pretty random, but all three are connected to Marinette (and their reasons for being an akuma are even indirectly related to her).
** Agent Roger was fired by the mayor for refusing to arrest Marinette for stealing Chlo&ecute;'s bracelet without evidence.
** Nathanael was humiliated by Chlo&ecute; in front of the class for his drawings he did of Marinette because he had a crush on her.
** Alya was suspended unfairly for trying to find proof of Chlo&ecute; being Ladybug in her locker (whom is really Marinette), not to mention being her best friend.
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* Chat Noir appears perfectly happy to fade into the background while the media focuses on Ladybug. Given that Adrien's all too familiar with celebrity status as a civilian, he probably finds it a novelty.
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* In series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore lost competition and was turned into super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!

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* In series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore lost the competition and was turned into a super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!



* In recent episode Antibug, Sabrina becomes The Invisible when akumatized. Prior to that, we see her being unpersoned by Chloé. She (at one point) looked at Sabrina, then said she didn't see anyone.

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* In the recent episode Antibug, Sabrina becomes The Invisible when akumatized. Prior to that, we see her being unpersoned by Chloé. She (at one point) looked at Sabrina, then said she didn't see anyone.
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* In recent episode Antibug, Sabrina becomes The Invisible when akumatized. Prior to that, we see Chloé unpersoning her. She (at one point) looked at her, then said she didn't see anyone.

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* In recent episode Antibug, Sabrina becomes The Invisible when akumatized. Prior to that, we see Chloé unpersoning her. her being unpersoned by Chloé. She (at one point) looked at her, Sabrina, then said she didn't see anyone.
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* In recent episode Antibug, Sabrina becomes The Invisible when akumatized. Prior to that, we see Chloé unpersoning her. She (at one point) looked at her, then said she didn't see anyone.
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* Why did Cat Noir decide not to peek in on Ladybug and find out her secret identity after they defeated Lady Wifi? It may have something to do with him losing his ring while he was locked in the freezer earlier, putting him at risk of being exposed in a very similar way.
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* Marinette doesn't consider that Adrien could be Chat Noir when Alya [[ClarkKenting points out the similarities]] because Adrien is sane and Chat is a "goofball" in her words. This comes from the fact that she knows Chat better than she knows Adrien: Chat during battle makes a HurricaneOfPuns, flirts with her, and maintains a ChesireGrin while fighting ''akuma'' that have destroyed Paris. Adrien in contrast is calm, polite and considerate, even without Marinette putting him on a pedestal. Mixing her dream image of Adrien with the reality of Chat Noir would undo Marinette's crush.

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* Marinette doesn't consider that Adrien could be Chat Noir when Alya [[ClarkKenting points out the similarities]] because Adrien is sane and Chat is a "goofball" in her words. This comes from the fact that she knows Chat better than she knows Adrien: Chat during battle makes a HurricaneOfPuns, flirts with her, and maintains a ChesireGrin CheshireGrin while fighting ''akuma'' that have destroyed Paris. Adrien in contrast is calm, polite and considerate, even without Marinette putting him on a pedestal. Mixing her dream image of Adrien with the reality of Chat Noir would undo Marinette's crush.



* In series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore and was turned into super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!

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* In series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore lost competition and was turned into super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!
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* In series this focused on good and bad luck, it is really that surprising that Aurore and was turned into super villain? She had her umbrella open inside a building!
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* Marinette doesn't consider that Adrien could be Chat Noir when Alya [[ClarkKenting points out the similarities]] because Adrien is sane and Chat is a "goofball" in her words. This comes from the fact that she knows Chat better than she knows Adrien: Chat during battle makes a HurricaneOfPuns, flirts with her, and maintains a ChesireGrin while fighting ''akuma'' that have destroyed Paris. Adrien in contrast is calm, polite and considerate, even without Marinette putting him on a pedestal.

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* Marinette doesn't consider that Adrien could be Chat Noir when Alya [[ClarkKenting points out the similarities]] because Adrien is sane and Chat is a "goofball" in her words. This comes from the fact that she knows Chat better than she knows Adrien: Chat during battle makes a HurricaneOfPuns, flirts with her, and maintains a ChesireGrin while fighting ''akuma'' that have destroyed Paris. Adrien in contrast is calm, polite and considerate, even without Marinette putting him on a pedestal. Mixing her dream image of Adrien with the reality of Chat Noir would undo Marinette's crush.
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!!FridgeBrilliance
* Marinette doesn't consider that Adrien could be Chat Noir when Alya [[ClarkKenting points out the similarities]] because Adrien is sane and Chat is a "goofball" in her words. This comes from the fact that she knows Chat better than she knows Adrien: Chat during battle makes a HurricaneOfPuns, flirts with her, and maintains a ChesireGrin while fighting ''akuma'' that have destroyed Paris. Adrien in contrast is calm, polite and considerate, even without Marinette putting him on a pedestal.
* Likewise, Marinette wants to keep up the MutualMasquerade because as a hero she feels it's her job to be serious and save the city, thus her relationship with Chat has to be professional. Knowing who Chat Noir is would undermine the professionalism, especially since he is a goofball.
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* Chat Noir recognizes who three villains of the week are so far. He is able to notice who Stormy Weather by her cardboard cut out. He recognizes his best friend even though he looked nothing like how he usually does. Most of all he recognizes who Copycat is only based the straw of a lollipop he was chewing on earlier that day. But he isn't able to recognize Ladybug when only her cheekbones are covered and the colour of her eyes and hair slightly lighter.
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** ClarkKenting taken to the logical extreme?
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!!FridgeBrilliance
* In episode 3, Chat Noir didn't tell the sculptor he and Ladybug were an item just for trolling him. He has spent enough time around Ladybug to figure she might be a girl around his own age (a minor) and the sculptor is an adult man. He was trying to avoid a really unconfortable situation for her without revealing personal information.
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* Chat Noir recognizes who three villains of the week are so far. He is able to notice who Stormy Weather by her cardboard cut out. He recognizes his best friend even though he looked nothing like how he usually does. Most of all he recognizes who Copycat is only based the straw of a lollipop he was chewing on earlier that day. But he isn't able to recognize Ladybug when only her cheekbones are covered and the colour of her eyes and hair slightly lighter.

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* Chat Noir recognizes who three villains of the week are so far. He is able to notice who Stormy Weather by her cardboard cut out. He recognizes his best friend even though he looked nothing like how he usually does. Most of all he recognizes who Copycat is only based the straw of a lollipop he was chewing on earlier that day. But he isn't able to recognize Ladybug when only her cheekbones are covered and the colour of her eyes and hair slightly lighter.lighter.
** ClarkKenting taken to the logical extreme?
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* In episode 3, Chat Noir didn't tell the sculptor he and Ladybug were an item just for trolling him. He has spent enough time around Ladybug to figure she might be a girl around his own age (a minor) and the sculptor is an adult man. He was trying to avoid a really unconfortable situation for her without revealing personal information.
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!!FridgeLogic
*Chat Noir recognizes who three villains of the week are so far. He is able to notice who Stormy Weather by her cardboard cut out. He recognizes his best friend even though he looked nothing like how he usually does. Most of all he recognizes who Copycat is only based the straw of a lollipop he was chewing on earlier that day. But he isn't able to recognize Ladybug when only her cheekbones are covered and the colour of her eyes and hair slightly lighter.

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