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* Perhaps it's a good thing that the world of Medaka Box chooses to be a deconstruction of shounen rather than purely shounen. If the latter were the case, the world would implode in a nanosecond from all the constant fighting.

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* Perhaps it's a good thing that the world of Medaka Box chooses to be a deconstruction of shounen rather than purely shounen. If the latter were the case, the world would implode in a nanosecond from all the constant fighting. Meta-wise, this gives the author the excuse of not really having to go to such a length.
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* Perhaps it's a good thing that the world of Medaka Box chooses to be a deconstruction of shounen rather than purely shounen. If the latter were the case, the world would implode in a nanosecond from all the constant fighting.
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* As Kumagawa was erasing the colours of the world, try not to think about how many people died due to accidents before Kumagawa (likely) revived them.

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* As Kumagawa was erasing the colours of the world, [[InferredHolocaust try not to think about how many people died due to accidents accidents]] before Kumagawa (likely) revived them.
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* Regarding Naze developing a Minus Skill, "Ice-Fire", and how exactly she pulled that off despite Minuses being impossible to analyze even by the likes of her own brother, as well as only having the personality of a Minus at the time. Earlier that arc, Kumagawa gave a whole speech about accepting the unfairness, incompleteness, and imperfection of the world and oneself, accomplishing which could make someone a Minus like him. In other words, a Minus is someone who accepts a significant imperfection that then becomes a central part of who they are. Linking that to Naze's circumstances, I realized that she had done just that; accepted the absurdly disadvantageous and harsh-temperature environment, and from that accepted imperfection she was able to develop "Ice-Fire". With this, it likewise explains how born winners like Medaka and Ashin'in were able to learn/acquire Minus Skills.
** For Medaka, she only began learning Minus Skills with "The End" after she'd accepted being hit by Kumagawa's "Book Maker" and being made as incomplete as him for a time. This, combined with the offscreen training she did later in order to understand weakness, allowed her to master being "incomplete" enough to not only learn Minus Skills, but also acquire her "Forsaken God Mode" which makes her weaker than her opponent.
** Meanwhile, Ajimu Najimi spent literal ages searching for something that she would legitimately and decidedly fail at; in other words, she was actively TRYING to achieve true incompleteness. All those Minus Skills that comprise a significant portion of her power-set were probably acquired by accepting any and all limit she could find for herself, like a video game player trying self-imposed challenges like using no items or magic.
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* [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Shiranui will look like a little kid until she dies!]]

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Anshin'in and Devil Style


** With the introduction of Iihiko, and the backstory of him repeated handing Anjimu her ass, it may seem odd when one thinks back to her motivation of challenging Medaka. After all, if Iihiko routinely beat her, why does she still feel like she always wins. It becomes more understandable if one considers it's been a few thousand years since they last met (admittedly a drop in the bucket of Anjimu's total life, but still). Thus, Anjimu's winning streak eventually reasserted itself over the millennia until she finally decided to go back to challenging the only thing that ever beat her: A Main Character. Of course, then she won, so it was back to the suicide. It helps that Iihiko never actually killed her, so it could be filed under the typical "main character get's beaten by this one super strong guy, but then totally get's stronger after coming back from the brink of death" cliche.




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** Zenkichi's "Devil Style" sounds like a massive disadvantage, especially for one so underpowered in a world of over-the-top busted monsters. However, it's occasionally essential for his victory, because it also [[spoiler:negates the otherwise inviolable narrative luck of ''other'' protagonists]].
* With the introduction of Iihiko, and the backstory of him repeated handing Ajimu her ass, it may seem odd when one thinks back to her motivation of challenging Medaka. After all, if Iihiko routinely beat her, why does she still feel like she always wins. It becomes more understandable if one considers it's been a few thousand years since they last met (admittedly a drop in the bucket of Ajimu's total life, but still). Thus, Ajimu's winning streak eventually reasserted itself over the millennia until she finally decided to go back to challenging the only thing that ever beat her: A Main Character. Of course, then she won, so it was back to the suicide. It helps that Iihiko never actually killed her, so it could be filed under the typical "main character get's beaten by this one super strong guy, but then totally gets stronger after coming back from the brink of death" cliche.
* The finale of volume 16 and the Kurokami Medaka's Successor arc is an amazing callback. Ajimu deliberately crafted her planned end of the series to [[{{Bookends}} Bookend]] the beginning with an election, but it surpassed her expectations. Not only does Medaka lose, but she gets ''only'' 2% of the votes rather than ''all but'' 2%. It's Medaka herself that caps it off, though: Her grand "Life is Epic" speech to Ajimu? It's word-for-word identical to the end of her inauguration speech in chapter 1,[[note]](the scanlators translated it differently)[[/note]] complete with wordplay on Ajimu's "Anshin'in" nickname! Given how early that nickname showed up, Nisio Isin had this ending planned for at least seven volumes.
** When Medaka wrote up Ajimu's student information on her fan, she was copying Ajimu's "simulated reality" fourth-wall breaking. Only a reader of the comic would have recognized the student information boxes she mimicked, and she never turned the fan so Ajimu could see what she'd written. Parasite Seeing was one of the few skills Medaka knew Ajimu didn't have, so Ajimu couldn't see from Medaka's perspective. Holding that fan up like a caption would only benefit the reader...or someone who could see the world through the reader's eyes.




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* Ajimu may have lost to Iihiko, but in that moment she defeated Medaka. Many readers and somehow Medaka herself may have forgotten, but Medaka had vowed to stop Ajimu from throwing her life away.

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** When Ajimu revives Zenkichi in chapter 71, she tells him that she's glad Zenkichi failed to kill Kumagawa as that means he isn't burdened with the karmic weight of Kumagawa's murder. Thirty chapters later, the reason ''why'' Ajimu wants Zenkichi to remain relatively innocent becomes obvious. [[spoiler: This means that Ajimu may have been planning the upcoming confrontation between Zenkichi and Medaka the whole time. ]]

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** * When Ajimu revives Zenkichi in chapter 71, she tells him that she's glad Zenkichi failed to kill Kumagawa as that means he isn't burdened with the karmic weight of Kumagawa's murder. Thirty chapters later, the reason ''why'' Ajimu wants Zenkichi to remain relatively innocent becomes obvious. [[spoiler: This means that Ajimu may have been planning the upcoming confrontation between Zenkichi and Medaka the whole time. ]]



*** Gagamaru's relationship with Shibuki Shibushi becomes nightmarishly [[{{Squick}} Squicktastic]] upon learning what his ability is, how it affects his personality, and for what reason she hangs around him.

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*** Gagamaru's relationship with Shibuki Shibushi becomes nightmarishly [[{{Squick}} Squicktastic]] upon learning what his ability is, how it affects his personality, and for what reason she hangs around him.him.

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** [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse One might wonder what ever happened]] to Zenkichi's own personal and much hyped skilll, Devil Style. In the arc after it's revealed TheoryOfNarrativeCausality seems to be in full affect again when the heroes fight the suitors from the weakest to the strongest. That is until it's revealed that [[spoiler: the first suitor, Nienami, is actually the strongest of the six]].

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** [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse One might wonder what ever happened]] to Zenkichi's own personal and much hyped skilll, Devil Style. In the arc after it's revealed TheoryOfNarrativeCausality seems to be in full affect again when the heroes fight the suitors from the weakest to the strongest. That is until it's revealed that [[spoiler: the first suitor, Nienami, is actually the strongest of the six]].six]].

!! Fridge Horror
* FridgeHorror: Kumagawa states that his All-Fiction won't let him truly die. The only way he could know this, and state it so confidently, is to have discovered it through experience.
** Gagamaru goes right out and says that [[spoiler: he's used his "Encounter" to push any mental trauma he might have had onto other people at random. Shibushi hints darkly that nobody knows what's happened to the people who had this trauma thrust upon them.]]
*** It could have all been pushed towards Kumagawa. That is one theory.
*** Gagamaru's relationship with Shibuki Shibushi becomes nightmarishly [[{{Squick}} Squicktastic]] upon learning what his ability is, how it affects his personality, and for what reason she hangs around him.

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* A main character comes along once every thousand years, and [[spoiler:Iihiko has defeated all of them, even Medaka. This millennium, however, there are ''two'' main characters...]]

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!! Fridge Brilliance
* A main character comes along once every thousand years, and [[spoiler:Iihiko has defeated all of them, even Medaka. This millennium, however, there are ''two'' main characters...]]]]
* Why does calm and rational Gagamaru [[BerserkButton explode with anger]] [[spoiler:being told he only knows how to fight in childrens card games]], even completely changing his normal demeanor and hairstyle? Because [[spoiler:he reflexively shields himself from being hurt; physically, mentally, and emotionally with his Minus. The fact that Gagamaru got murderously angry is because he's unused to actually feeling hurt.]]
** When Ajimu revives Zenkichi in chapter 71, she tells him that she's glad Zenkichi failed to kill Kumagawa as that means he isn't burdened with the karmic weight of Kumagawa's murder. Thirty chapters later, the reason ''why'' Ajimu wants Zenkichi to remain relatively innocent becomes obvious. [[spoiler: This means that Ajimu may have been planning the upcoming confrontation between Zenkichi and Medaka the whole time. ]]
** With the introduction of Iihiko, and the backstory of him repeated handing Anjimu her ass, it may seem odd when one thinks back to her motivation of challenging Medaka. After all, if Iihiko routinely beat her, why does she still feel like she always wins. It becomes more understandable if one considers it's been a few thousand years since they last met (admittedly a drop in the bucket of Anjimu's total life, but still). Thus, Anjimu's winning streak eventually reasserted itself over the millennia until she finally decided to go back to challenging the only thing that ever beat her: A Main Character. Of course, then she won, so it was back to the suicide. It helps that Iihiko never actually killed her, so it could be filed under the typical "main character get's beaten by this one super strong guy, but then totally get's stronger after coming back from the brink of death" cliche.
** [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse One might wonder what ever happened]] to Zenkichi's own personal and much hyped skilll, Devil Style. In the arc after it's revealed TheoryOfNarrativeCausality seems to be in full affect again when the heroes fight the suitors from the weakest to the strongest. That is until it's revealed that [[spoiler: the first suitor, Nienami, is actually the strongest of the six]].
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A main character comes along once every thousand years, and [[spoiler:Iihiko has defeated all of them, even Medaka. This millennium, however, there are ''two'' main characters...]]

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