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*** The fact that Tony did tested Rhodes while ''drunk'' also ties in with a comment from Yensin in the first movie. When Tony said he didn't remember them meeting before, Yensin's reply was "Oh, you wouldn't. If I had been that drunk, I wouldn't have been able to stand, much less give a lecture on integrated circuits." Thus showing that Tony is still capable of functioning quite well when totally plastered... even if he doesn't always remember the finer details of what happened.

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*** The fact that Tony did tested Rhodes while ''drunk'' also ties in with a comment from Yensin in the first movie. When Tony said he didn't remember them meeting before, Yensin's reply was "Oh, you wouldn't. If I had been that drunk, I wouldn't have been able to stand, much less give a lecture on integrated circuits." Thus showing that Tony is still capable of functioning quite well when totally plastered... even if he doesn't always remember the finer details of what happened.
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* This might not be exactly FridgeBrilliance but it seems like Tony is spinning out of control and fights his best friend because he's a drunken mess... except he's dying. He already gave Pepper his company, and now is giving the suit to the only person he can trust with it: Rhodey. While he is severely messed up emotionally speaking, so he can't just tell him what's wrong he knows if he acts fucked up enough, Rhodey will do the right thing and take it, proving he's the right man to be Iron Man's successor. The whole War Machine thing was planned, by him.

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* This might not be exactly FridgeBrilliance but it seems like Tony is spinning out of control and fights his best friend because he's a drunken mess... except he's dying. He already gave Pepper his company, and now is giving the suit to the only person he can trust with it: Rhodey. While he is severely messed up emotionally speaking, so he can't just tell him what's wrong wrong; he knows if he acts fucked messed up enough, Rhodey will do the right thing and take it, proving he's the right man to be Iron Man's successor. The whole War Machine thing was planned, planned by him.
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** Some people have criticized the movie for how Howard Stark somehow predicted that Tony would have a holographic computer that could copy and pull out random parts of the diorama, except the Fridge Brilliance is that he didn’t predict that. He wanted to keep the new element a secret except only from Tony, and he didn’t know his own son well enough to use a pop culture reference or something from his childhood only Tony would know. The only thing he knows for sure is that Tony is as smart, or smarter than himself. So how does he keep it locked for Tony’s eyes only? He makes it so hard that only someone as smart as him could decipher it. He expected Tony to see the schematic for the Stark Expo, pull out all the extraneous stuff, and create the new element... in his head. Of course, he expected it to take longer, and proably for Tony to destroy or break the diorama in the process so that only his son would know it. He didn’t realize how powerful the 21st century’s computers would become, so Tony deciphers it in minutes instead of hours.
* This might not be exactly FridgeBrilliance but it seems like Tony is spinning out of control and fights his best friend because he's a drunken mess...except he's dying. He already gave Pepper his company, and now is giving the suit to the only person he can trust with it, Rhodey. While he is severely messed up emotionally speaking, so he can't just tell him what's wrong he knows if he acts fucked up enough, Rhodey will do the right thing and take it, proving he's the right man to be Iron Man's successor. The whole War Machine thing was planed, by him.

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** Some people have criticized the movie for how Howard Stark somehow predicted that Tony would have a holographic computer that could copy and pull out random parts of the diorama, except the Fridge Brilliance is that he didn’t predict that. He wanted to keep the new element a secret except only from Tony, and he didn’t know his own son well enough to use a pop culture reference or something from his childhood only Tony would know. The only thing he knows for sure is that Tony is as smart, or smarter than himself. So how does he keep it locked for Tony’s eyes only? He makes it so hard that only someone as smart as him could decipher it. He expected Tony to see the schematic for the Stark Expo, pull out all the extraneous stuff, and create the new element... in his head. Of course, he expected it to take longer, and proably for Tony to destroy or break the diorama in the process so that only his son would know it. He didn’t realize how powerful the 21st century’s computers of the 21st century would become, so Tony deciphers it in minutes instead of hours.
* This might not be exactly FridgeBrilliance but it seems like Tony is spinning out of control and fights his best friend because he's a drunken mess... except he's dying. He already gave Pepper his company, and now is giving the suit to the only person he can trust with it, it: Rhodey. While he is severely messed up emotionally speaking, so he can't just tell him what's wrong he knows if he acts fucked up enough, Rhodey will do the right thing and take it, proving he's the right man to be Iron Man's successor. The whole War Machine thing was planed, planned, by him.
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** Vanko just wanted to make money off his co-creation, a legitimate goal. Howard was afraid [[spoiler: HYDRA]] would use it for more nefarious purposes.

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** Vanko just wanted to make money off of his co-creation, which is a legitimate goal. Howard was afraid [[spoiler: HYDRA]] would use it for more nefarious purposes.
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* This may have been obvious for others, but at first I thought it was lame that Tony's father would hide the new element structure in the Stark Expo diorama instead of just writing it in one of the books that came with it, but it's possible that Tony's dad hid it there because he didn't want anyone else to find it but Tony.

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* This may have been obvious for others, but at first I thought it was lame that Tony's father would hide the new element structure in the Stark Expo diorama instead of just writing it in one of the books that came with it, but it's possible that Tony's dad hid it there because he didn't want anyone else but Tony to find it but Tony.it.
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* Pay attention to the hallway during the Black Widow flight scene. After Happy beats his one guy, there's a guy strung up from the ceiling who wasn't there before. While he was polishing his guy off, ''Widow beat up even more guards''. -- @/{{Jonn}}

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* Pay attention to the hallway during the Black Widow flight fight scene. After Happy beats his one guy, there's a guy strung up from the ceiling who wasn't there before. While he was polishing his guy off, ''Widow beat up even more guards''. -- @/{{Jonn}}
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* With Vanko/Whiplash's suit, it only has the whips as weapons, and nothing else. Granted, the first suit was just constructed in his Russian home, with no logical way to add ranged weapons whatsoever without giving himself away, but he could have stuck a few missiles in his second PoweredArmor. Then, looking at Iron Man's loadout, it suddenly makes sense why he only uses the whips: most of the weaponry Tony uses is ''ranged'' and ''explosive''. If Tony unleashes a missile, he either misses and cause a lot of collatoral damage, or hits Vanko and damages both of them. The whips are designed so that Vanko can keep Tony close so that he is limited to punches and repulsor blasts, and mangles his armor at the same time.

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* With Vanko/Whiplash's suit, it only has the whips as weapons, and nothing else. Granted, the first suit was just constructed in his Russian home, with no logical way to add ranged weapons whatsoever without giving himself away, but he could have stuck a few missiles in his second PoweredArmor. Then, looking at Iron Man's loadout, it suddenly makes sense why he only uses the whips: most of the weaponry Tony uses is ''ranged'' and ''explosive''. If Tony unleashes a missile, he either misses and cause causes a lot of collatoral collateral damage, or hits Vanko and damages both of them. The whips are designed so that Vanko can keep Tony close so that he is limited to punches and repulsor blasts, and mangles his armor at the same time.
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*** The other guns were only ''manufactured'' by [=HammerTech=], but are real-life guns that have their own designers that worked out all the kinks. The Ex-Wife was the only one ''designed'' by Hammertech.

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*** The other guns were only ''manufactured'' by [=HammerTech=], but are real-life guns that have their own designers that worked out all the kinks. The Ex-Wife was the only one ''designed'' by Hammertech.[=HammerTech=].
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** FridgeLogic on the Ex-Wife exchange. Rhodey acts disgusted when the Ex-Wife doesn't work, noting that it's '[=HammerTech=]'. He apparently conveniently forgets that the rest of the perfectly-functioning and very effective weaponry on his suit is also [=HammerTech=]. FridgeBrilliance occurs with the Ex-Wife seeing as it's designed for bunkers - probably concrete structures, needing to be fired from great distances or heights, rather than at very dense, metal, man-sized targets. In addition, it's quite possible that it needs to be in-flight for a certain amount of time before arming, since you really don't want something that powerful going off that close to whatever fired it. It's hardly surprising that it wouldn't work against Vanko.

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** FridgeLogic on the Ex-Wife exchange. Rhodey acts disgusted when the Ex-Wife doesn't work, noting that it's '[=HammerTech=]'. He apparently conveniently forgets that the rest of the perfectly-functioning and very effective weaponry on his suit is also [=HammerTech=]. FridgeBrilliance occurs with the Ex-Wife Ex-Wife, seeing as it's designed for to penetrate heavily-fortified bunkers - probably concrete structures, needing to be fired from great distances or heights, rather than at very dense, metal, man-sized targets. In addition, it's quite possible that it needs to be in-flight for a certain amount of time before arming, since you really don't want something that powerful going off that close to whatever fired it. It's hardly surprising that it wouldn't work against Vanko.
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** FridgeLogic on the Ex-Wife exchange. Rhodey acts disgusted when the Ex-Wife doesn't work, noting that it's 'Hammertech'. He apparently conveniently forgets that the rest of the perfectly-functioning and very effective weaponry on his suit is also Hammertech. FridgeBrilliance occurs with the Ex-Wife seeing as it's designed for bunkers - probably concrete structures, probably to be fired from great distances or heights, rather than at very dense, metal, man-sized targets. In addition, it's quite possible that it needs to be in-flight for a certain amount of time before arming, since you really don't want something that powerful going off that close to whatever fired it. It's hardly surprising that it wouldn't work against Vanko.
*** On the other hand, Vanko had proven capable to hack everything in Hammertech's arsenal. What's not to say he hadn't hacked the Ex-Wife so it would not work? Of note, Vanko's visor was quick enough to protect his face from Tony's automatic guns, but he didn't even bother to put it on during the Ex-Wife. Maybe he knew it's going to splutter?
*** The other guns were only ''manufactured'' by Hammertech, but are real-life guns that have their own designers that worked out all the kinks. The Ex-Wife was the only one ''designed'' by Hammertech.
*** I always got the impression that Hammer was fine with conventional weapons - it's when he tried to get fancy like Stark (as with the PoweredArmor or the Ex-wife) that he crashed and burned (he's probably not that hot with computer stuff either, going by Vanko...)

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** FridgeLogic on the Ex-Wife exchange. Rhodey acts disgusted when the Ex-Wife doesn't work, noting that it's 'Hammertech'. '[=HammerTech=]'. He apparently conveniently forgets that the rest of the perfectly-functioning and very effective weaponry on his suit is also Hammertech. [=HammerTech=]. FridgeBrilliance occurs with the Ex-Wife seeing as it's designed for bunkers - probably concrete structures, probably needing to be fired from great distances or heights, rather than at very dense, metal, man-sized targets. In addition, it's quite possible that it needs to be in-flight for a certain amount of time before arming, since you really don't want something that powerful going off that close to whatever fired it. It's hardly surprising that it wouldn't work against Vanko.
*** On the other hand, Vanko had proven capable to hack everything in Hammertech's [=HammerTech=]'s arsenal. What's not to say he hadn't hacked the Ex-Wife so it would not work? Of note, Vanko's visor was quick enough to protect his face from Tony's automatic guns, but he didn't even bother to put it on during the Ex-Wife. Maybe he knew it's going to splutter?
*** The other guns were only ''manufactured'' by Hammertech, [=HammerTech=], but are real-life guns that have their own designers that worked out all the kinks. The Ex-Wife was the only one ''designed'' by Hammertech.
*** I always got the impression that Hammer was fine with conventional weapons - it's when he tried to get fancy like Stark (as with the PoweredArmor or the Ex-wife) Ex-Wife) that he crashed and burned (he's probably not that hot with computer stuff either, going by Vanko...)



** An additional bit of Brilliance that lends itself to a bit of FridgeLogic. The Ex-Wife is mentioned to be designed to bust bunkers. Why it would be so strangely designed so that it can't be fired out of any known launcher but the one we see mounted on the War Machine suit is a mystery, but I digress. You don't bust bunkers from ten yards away. Most explosive weapons nowadays have a minimum distance they have to travel before they arm themselves, to stop soldiers from blowing themselves up. Rhodes firing that thing at point-blank range practically ''guaranteed'' that a) it wouldn't have time to get up to full armor-penetrating speed and b) the warhead wouldn't be armed. The Fridge Logic comes in when you realize that as a member of the military, '''Rhodes should have known this'''.

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** An additional bit of Brilliance that lends itself to a bit of FridgeLogic. The Ex-Wife is mentioned to be designed to bust bunkers. Why it would be so strangely designed so that it can't be fired out of any known launcher launcher, but the one we see mounted on the War Machine suit is a mystery, but I digress. You don't bust bunkers from ten yards away. Most explosive weapons nowadays have a minimum distance they have to travel before they arm themselves, to stop soldiers from blowing themselves up. Rhodes firing that thing at point-blank range practically ''guaranteed'' that a) it wouldn't have time to get up to full armor-penetrating speed and b) the warhead wouldn't be armed. The Fridge Logic comes in when you realize that as a member of the military, '''Rhodes should have known this'''.



* With Ivan Vanko/Whiplash's suit, it only has the whips as weapons, and nothing else. Granted, the first suit was just constructed in his Russian home, with no logical way to add ranged weapons whatsoever without giving himself away, but he could have stuck a few missiles in his second PoweredArmor. Then, looking at Iron Man's loadout, it suddenly makes sense why he only uses the whips: most of the weaponry Tony uses is ''ranged'' and ''explosive''. If Tony unleashes a missile, he either misses and cause a lot of collatoral damage, or hits Vanko and damages both of them. The whips are designed so that Vanko can keep Tony close so that he is limited to punches and repulsor blasts, and mangles his armor at the same time.

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* With Ivan Vanko/Whiplash's suit, it only has the whips as weapons, and nothing else. Granted, the first suit was just constructed in his Russian home, with no logical way to add ranged weapons whatsoever without giving himself away, but he could have stuck a few missiles in his second PoweredArmor. Then, looking at Iron Man's loadout, it suddenly makes sense why he only uses the whips: most of the weaponry Tony uses is ''ranged'' and ''explosive''. If Tony unleashes a missile, he either misses and cause a lot of collatoral damage, or hits Vanko and damages both of them. The whips are designed so that Vanko can keep Tony close so that he is limited to punches and repulsor blasts, and mangles his armor at the same time.
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* A little bit of FridgeBrilliance on the part of [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife]]; RuleOfFunny, I believe was in full force. [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife was not there when Rhodey when he needed it the most, left for no good reason, took a good amount of his money, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and embarrassed him in front of his best friend.]]]]

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* A little bit of FridgeBrilliance on the part of [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife]]; RuleOfFunny, I believe was in full force. [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife was not there when for Rhodey when he needed it the most, left for no good reason, took a good amount of his money, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and embarrassed him in front of his best friend.]]]]
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* A little bit of FridgeBrilliance on the part of [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife]] RuleOfFunny, I believe was in full force. [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife was not there when Rhodey when he needed it the most, left for no good reason, took a good amount of his money, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and embarrassed him in front of his best friend.]]]]

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* A little bit of FridgeBrilliance on the part of [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife]] Ex-Wife]]; RuleOfFunny, I believe was in full force. [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife was not there when Rhodey when he needed it the most, left for no good reason, took a good amount of his money, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and embarrassed him in front of his best friend.]]]]
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* A little bit of FridgeBrilliance on the part of [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife]] RuleOfFunny, I believe was in full force. [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife was not there when Rhody when he needed it the most, left for no good reason, took a good amount of his money, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and embarrassed him in front of his best friend.]]]]

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* A little bit of FridgeBrilliance on the part of [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife]] RuleOfFunny, I believe was in full force. [[spoiler: The Ex-Wife was not there when Rhody Rhodey when he needed it the most, left for no good reason, took a good amount of his money, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and embarrassed him in front of his best friend.]]]]
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** Also, Hammer is canonically terrible at the technical aspects of his own weapons, but even he would have to be suspicious when Vanko started to stuff enough explosives into the drones to blow apart an arena, which means he probably okayed it. The reason why? No other country (or more importantly, company) has armor/dronetech (apart from Tony obviously), like Hammer had at that time, and he wanted to keep the monopoly. The explosive self destructs were meant to keep the armor/drones out of the hands of enemies to keep them from reverse engineering it (like Obadiah did in ''Film/IronMan'').
*** For the record, if that was there function, it worked beautifully. Tony and Rhodey had torn apart, shot up, and cut in half most of those drones, and their self-destruct functions not only didn't accidentally go off even when cut by a laser, but still activated when the drones themselves were offline. Now that is some good Russian engineering.

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** Also, Hammer is canonically terrible at the technical aspects of his own weapons, but even he would have to be suspicious when Vanko started to stuff enough explosives into the drones to blow apart an arena, which means he probably okayed it. The reason why? No other country (or more importantly, company) has armor/dronetech (apart from Tony obviously), like Hammer had at that time, and he wanted to keep the monopoly. The explosive self destructs were meant to keep the armor/drones out of the hands of enemies to keep them from reverse engineering reverse-engineering it (like Obadiah did in ''Film/IronMan'').
*** For the record, if that was there their function, it worked beautifully. Tony and Rhodey had torn apart, shot up, and cut in half most of those drones, and their self-destruct functions not only didn't accidentally go off even when cut by a laser, but still activated when the drones themselves were offline. Now that is some good Russian engineering.
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** Also, Hammer is canonically terrible at the technical aspects of the of his weapons, but even he would have to be suspicious when Vanko started to stuff enough explosives into the drones to blow apart an arena, which means he probably Ok'd it. The reason why? No other country (or more importantly, company) has armor/dronetech (apart from Tony obviously), like Hammer had at that time, and he wanted to keep the monopoly. The explosive self destructs were meant to keep the armor/drones out of the hands of enemies to keep them from reverse engineering it (like Obadiah did in ''Film/IronMan'').

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** Also, Hammer is canonically terrible at the technical aspects of the of his own weapons, but even he would have to be suspicious when Vanko started to stuff enough explosives into the drones to blow apart an arena, which means he probably Ok'd okayed it. The reason why? No other country (or more importantly, company) has armor/dronetech (apart from Tony obviously), like Hammer had at that time, and he wanted to keep the monopoly. The explosive self destructs were meant to keep the armor/drones out of the hands of enemies to keep them from reverse engineering it (like Obadiah did in ''Film/IronMan'').
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** Not only that: Added layer of meaning in that, in Russian, [[spoiler:the word "salute" (салют, pronounced /salyut/) means "fireworks, firework show"]]

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** Not only that: Added there's an added layer of meaning in that, in Russian, [[spoiler:the word "salute" (салют, pronounced /salyut/) means "fireworks, firework show"]]show"]].
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*** Also Rhodey removes the arc-reactor before letting Hammer see it, showing he fully knows the value and importance of the device and not let Hammer see it and potentially figure it out.

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*** Also Rhodey removes the arc-reactor arc reactor before letting Hammer see it, showing he fully knows the value and importance of the device and not let letting Hammer see it and potentially figure it out.
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*** Made more possible by the fact that this seems to be a devoted internal-only system; the technicians may not have thought they needed to bother to protect it better because only HammerTech employees would have physical access to it in the first place. "Shitty software" is a simplification, easier to say than "Your security protocols suck."

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*** Made more possible by the fact that this seems to be a devoted internal-only system; the technicians may not have thought they needed to bother to protect it better because only HammerTech [=HammerTech=] employees would have physical access to it in the first place. "Shitty software" is a simplification, easier to say than "Your security protocols suck."



* It was pretty clear from the beginning that Vanko/Whiplash was supposed to be an EvilCounterpart to Tony Stark, but it wasn't until later that I figured out just how much he was supposed to mirror Stark. Both men are seen building their first power suits from scratch using substandard technology. Both men were imprisoned and escaped. Both men eventually found ways to use the resources provided to them to build a weapon for someone who thought they were in control in order to build weapons for themselves and exact their vengeance.

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* It was pretty clear from the beginning that Vanko/Whiplash was supposed to be an EvilCounterpart to Tony Stark, but it wasn't until later that I figured out just how much he was supposed to mirror Stark. Both men are seen building their first power suits of armor from scratch using substandard technology. Both men were imprisoned and escaped. Both men eventually found ways to use the resources provided to them to build a weapon for someone who thought they were in control in order to build weapons for themselves and exact their vengeance.



** The sole fact that Rhodey could pilot the armor without any problem, unlike Tony during his firsts steps at flying, indicates that Tony has previously allowed Rhodey to use the Mark II armor to learn how to fly it. Which is a callback to Rhodey wanting to fly it in 1. It's likely he asked Tony who equiped it with its own arc reactor. Also the Iron Man armors require a lot of CPU. While Tony's own armor is always connected to Jarvis, this would mean the Mark II had its own CPU too.
*** Also he removes the Arc-reactor before letting Hammer see it, showing he fully knows the value and importance of the device and not let Hammer see it and potentialy figure it out.

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** The sole fact that Rhodey could pilot the armor without any problem, unlike Tony during his firsts first steps at flying, indicates that Tony has previously allowed Rhodey to use the Mark II armor to learn how to fly it. Which is a callback to Rhodey wanting to fly it in 1. the first film. It's likely he asked Tony who equiped equipped it with its own arc reactor. Also the Iron Man armors require a lot of CPU. While Tony's own armor is always connected to Jarvis, JARVIS, this would mean the Mark II had its own CPU too.
*** Also he Rhodey removes the Arc-reactor arc-reactor before letting Hammer see it, showing he fully knows the value and importance of the device and not let Hammer see it and potentialy potentially figure it out.
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* Rhodes shows up at Tony's house after the Monaco attack he says "I just got off the phone with the National Guard, they wanted to roll tanks up the PCH. They wanted to take your suits." Even as a Lieutenant Colonel, Rhodes can't get the California [[HomeGuard National Guard]] to stand down. He must have been on the three way call with the President, the Governor of California and their State Adjutant General! No wonder Rhodes "took" the suit and whipped Tony's ass later in the movie (see below).

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* Rhodes shows up at Tony's house after the Monaco attack he and says "I just got off the phone with the National Guard, they wanted to roll tanks up the PCH. They wanted to take your suits." Even as a Lieutenant Colonel, Rhodes can't get the California [[HomeGuard National Guard]] to stand down. He must have been on the three way call with the President, the Governor of California and their State Adjutant General! No wonder Rhodes "took" the suit and whipped Tony's ass later in the movie (see below).
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* In the scene before Hammer arrives to see the Iron Man Mark II armor, Rhodey is removing and hiding the arc reactor, with the air force officer not complaining but just asking about it's importance. Fridge Logic kicks in when one realise that the air force officer does not trust Hammer either and that the U.S. government must have given Rhodey the right to hide vital informations from a private arms manufactor like Hammer. Especialy the heart of the suit.
* Fans have questioned why the government stuck Rhodes in a suit and let him introduce Hammer's demonstration at the Stark Expo with no training, given that War Machine is not only rendered completely helpless by a simple suit hack, but ends up ''doing more damage than the drones.'' Brilliance: They ''didn't'' expect him to have to fight because they ''haven't'' yet figured out that their universe is becoming a comic book. Quoting the [[http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/2011 official timeline;]]

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* In the scene before Hammer arrives to see the Iron Man Mark II armor, Rhodey is removing and hiding the arc reactor, with the air force officer not complaining but just asking about it's importance. Fridge Logic kicks in when one realise that the air force officer does not trust Hammer either and that the U.S. government must have given Rhodey the right to hide vital informations from a private arms manufactor manufacturer like Hammer. Especialy Especially the heart of the suit.
* Fans have questioned why the government stuck Rhodes in a suit and let him introduce Hammer's demonstration at the Stark Expo with no training, given that War Machine is not only rendered completely helpless by a simple suit hack, but ends up ''doing more damage than the drones.'' Brilliance: They ''didn't'' expect him to have to fight because they ''haven't'' yet figured out that their universe is becoming a comic book. Quoting the [[http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/2011 official timeline;]] timeline;]]



** Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger won't be found until April 14th of next ''year.''

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** Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]] won't be found until April 14th of next ''year.''''year''.



** Look at the way Tony stares at the shield, before disrespectfully shoving it under his machinery. He clearly has no love lost for a certain spangly-outfitted super soldier. In ''The Avengers,'' he describes Steve as "the guy my dad never shut up about," and in this movie, his dad as someone who "never told me loved me, never even told me he liked me." According to Creator/RobertDowneyJr, Tony views Steve as a kind of older brother he can never live up to, and while ''The Avengers'' didn't really delve too deeply into their dynamic, it's still clear from the get-go that Tony's got some baggage with Cap.

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** Look at the way Tony stares at the shield, before disrespectfully shoving it under his machinery. He clearly has no love lost for a certain spangly-outfitted super soldier. In ''The Avengers,'' Avengers'', he describes Steve as "the guy my dad never shut up about," and in this movie, his dad as someone who "never told me loved me, never even told me he liked me." According to Creator/RobertDowneyJr, Tony views Steve as a kind of older brother he can never live up to, and while ''The Avengers'' didn't really delve too deeply into their dynamic, it's still clear from the get-go that Tony's got some baggage with Cap.



* Why did Howard hide the designs for the new element in the floor-plan instead of writing them down? Possibly as a test of character for Tony but ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' revealed [[spoiler:that the car crash he killed in was really an assassination by HYDRA who had infiltrated SHIELD. Could it be he was keeping such things out of HYDRA's hands by hiding it in plain sight and in a format that they would not guess?]]

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* Why did Howard hide the designs for the new element in the floor-plan instead of writing them down? Possibly as a test of character for Tony but ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' revealed [[spoiler:that the car crash he killed in was really an assassination by HYDRA who had infiltrated SHIELD. S.H.I.E.L.D. Could it be he was keeping such things out of HYDRA's hands by hiding it in plain sight and in a format that they would not guess?]] guess?]]



* At the party, Tony is essentially ''drunk driving'' the most advanced weapons platform ever developed. ''And it's armed.'' Also in a bit of FridgeBrilliance, J.A.R.V.I.S. was keeping people safe until Rhodey showed up in the Mark II.

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* At the party, Tony is essentially ''drunk driving'' the most advanced weapons platform ever developed. ''And it's armed.'' armed''. Also in a bit of FridgeBrilliance, J.A.R.V.I.S. JARVIS was keeping people safe until Rhodey showed up in the Mark II.
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* Obi framed Anton Vanko for espionage. Think about Fury's explanation - Vanko was a Soviet spy who ''also'' wanted to get rich against Howard's wishes. Commie capitalist does not compute. But an abundant source of clean energy would end conflict. Especially one designed by an American-Russian partnership in the middle of the Cold War. So Obi faked evidence of Vanko's espionage. Howard knew it but couldn't prove anything, which is why he still named Tony after Anton. SHIELD knew but stuck with the official story, just as with Obi's eventual death. [[spoiler:And, when you think about it, it's likely that HYDRA may have had their own reasons to conjure up an excuse to get Vanko out of the picture after HYDRA's involvement in Howard's death becomes clear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'').]]
* Rhodes's BottomlessMagazines in the second film -- with the arc reactor he may not actually be firing bullets, just bits of metal propelled to bullet-type speeds by the arc reactor and some form of on-board propulsion, which would make ammunition easier to store since there's no need for the "bullets" to have casings, primers and powder.

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* Obi Obadiah Stane framed Anton Vanko for espionage. Think about Fury's explanation - Vanko was a Soviet spy who ''also'' wanted to get rich against Howard's wishes. Commie capitalist does not compute. But an abundant source of clean energy would end conflict. Especially one designed by an American-Russian partnership in the middle of the Cold War. So Obi faked evidence of Vanko's espionage. Howard knew it but couldn't prove anything, which is why he still named Tony after Anton. SHIELD S.H.I.E.L.D. knew but stuck with the official story, just as with Obi's Obadiah's eventual death. [[spoiler:And, when you think about it, it's likely that HYDRA may have had their own reasons to conjure up an excuse to get Vanko out of the picture after HYDRA's involvement in Howard's death becomes clear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'').''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier''.]]
* Rhodes's Rhodes' BottomlessMagazines in the second film -- with the arc reactor he may not actually be firing bullets, just bits of metal propelled to bullet-type speeds by the arc reactor and some form of on-board propulsion, which would make ammunition easier to store since there's no need for the "bullets" to have casings, primers and powder.



* In ''Iron Man 2'', One may be initially annoyed that the Hammeroids were getting torn apart so easily by the standard-issue weapons in War Machine's suit. If they're using Iron Man tech, they should be a lot tougher, right? A concealed [=FN2000=] and a chaingun wouldn't have even bothered Tony's suit. Then you realize that the Hammeroids, aside from being Hammer Industries technology and thus prone to failure, were also ''showroom models'' and not the weapons systems meant to go from the production line to the front lines. They were built for show, not combat; no wonder they were getting torn to pieces. Hell, they were probably armored with ''cheap plastic.''

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* In ''Iron Man 2'', One the film, one may be initially annoyed that the Hammeroids were getting torn apart so easily by the standard-issue weapons in War Machine's suit. If they're using Iron Man tech, they should be a lot tougher, right? A concealed [=FN2000=] and a chaingun wouldn't have even bothered Tony's suit. Then you realize that the Hammeroids, aside from being Hammer Industries technology and thus prone to failure, were also ''showroom models'' and not the weapons systems meant to go from the production line to the front lines. They were built for show, not combat; no wonder they were getting torn to pieces. Hell, they were probably armored with ''cheap plastic.''plastic''.






* When Vanko attacks Tony (who's wearing the famous suitcase-armor Mark V) on the Monaco race track, his first strike with the whip – the one that prevents Tony from getting a shot at him with his repulsor – actually tears some of the scale-like plates of armor right off of the suit, sending them flying across the screen. This always confused me as to how his whips would be capable of such an articulated grabbing motion needed to actually ''pull'' multiple small items like that. I learned the answer when I read the novelization of the film. The whips in question are actually equipped with small but solid tungsten barbs. They weren't visible in the movie at any particular point, but putting two and two together easily explains how Vanko was able to do something as badass as tear the plating off Iron Man's arm.

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* When Vanko attacks Tony (who's wearing the famous suitcase-armor Mark V) V suitcase-armor) on the Monaco race track, his first strike with the whip – the one that prevents Tony from getting a shot at him with his repulsor – actually tears some of the scale-like plates of armor right off of the suit, sending them flying across the screen. This always confused me as to how his whips would be capable of such an articulated grabbing motion needed to actually ''pull'' multiple small items like that. I learned the answer when I read the novelization of the film. The whips in question are actually equipped with small but solid tungsten barbs. They weren't visible in the movie at any particular point, but putting two and two together easily explains how Vanko was able to do something as badass as tear the plating off Iron Man's arm.



** Also, Hammer is canonically terrible at the technical aspects of the of his weapons, but even he would have to be suspicious when Vanko started to stuff enough explosives into the drones to blow apart an arena, which means he probably Ok'd it. The reason why? No other country (or more importantly, company) has armor/dronetech (apart from Tony obviously), like Hammer had at that time, and he wanted to keep the monopoly. The explosive self destructs were meant to keep the armor/drones out of the hands of enemies to keep them from reverse engineering it (like Obidiah did in Film/Ironman).

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** Also, Hammer is canonically terrible at the technical aspects of the of his weapons, but even he would have to be suspicious when Vanko started to stuff enough explosives into the drones to blow apart an arena, which means he probably Ok'd it. The reason why? No other country (or more importantly, company) has armor/dronetech (apart from Tony obviously), like Hammer had at that time, and he wanted to keep the monopoly. The explosive self destructs were meant to keep the armor/drones out of the hands of enemies to keep them from reverse engineering it (like Obidiah Obadiah did in Film/Ironman).''Film/IronMan'').



*** Given that he's a highly successful weapons manufacturer that seems probable.
** An additional bit of Brilliance that lends itself to a bit of FridgeLogic. The Ex-Wife is mentioned to be designed to bust bunkers. Why it would be so strangely designed so that it can't be fired out of any known launcher but the one we see mounted on the War Machine suit is a mystery, but I digress. You don't bust bunkers from ten yards away. Most explosive weapons nowadays have a minimum distance they have to travel before they arm themselves, to stop soldiers from blowing themselves up. Rhodes firing that thing at point-blank range practically ''guaranteed'' that a) it wouldn't have time to get up to full armor-penetrating speed and b) the warhead wouldn't be armed. The Fridge Logic comes in when you realize that as a member of the military, '''Rhodes should have known this.'''

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*** Given that he's a highly successful weapons manufacturer manufacturer, that seems probable.
** An additional bit of Brilliance that lends itself to a bit of FridgeLogic. The Ex-Wife is mentioned to be designed to bust bunkers. Why it would be so strangely designed so that it can't be fired out of any known launcher but the one we see mounted on the War Machine suit is a mystery, but I digress. You don't bust bunkers from ten yards away. Most explosive weapons nowadays have a minimum distance they have to travel before they arm themselves, to stop soldiers from blowing themselves up. Rhodes firing that thing at point-blank range practically ''guaranteed'' that a) it wouldn't have time to get up to full armor-penetrating speed and b) the warhead wouldn't be armed. The Fridge Logic comes in when you realize that as a member of the military, '''Rhodes should have known this.'''this'''.



** Further supporting the original two points here, [[note]] a comment-chain I saw elsewhere pointed out that[[/note]] ''Justin Hammer himself'' named it a ''kinetic'' kill sidewinder, meaning it ''requires distance and speed to get up to full armour-penetrating power.'' Maybe Hammer's not so inept as we think... Still the matter of the paper-armoured drones though.

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** Further supporting the original two points here, [[note]] a comment-chain I saw elsewhere pointed out that[[/note]] ''Justin Hammer himself'' named it a ''kinetic'' kill sidewinder, meaning it ''requires distance and speed to get up to full armour-penetrating armor-penetrating power.'' Maybe Hammer's not so inept as we think... Still still there's the matter of the paper-armoured paper-armored drones though.



** Some people have criticised the movie for how Howard Stark somehow predicted that Tony would have a holographic computer that could copy and pull out random parts of the diorama, except the Fridge Brilliance is that he didn’t predict that. He wanted to keep the new element a secret except only from Tony, and he didn’t know his own son well enough to use a pop culture reference or something from his childhood only Tony would know. The only thing he knows for sure is that Tony is as smart, or smarter than himself. So how does he keep it locked for Tony’s eyes only? He makes it so hard that only someone as smart as him could decipher it. He expected Tony to see the schematic for the Stark Expo, pull out all the extraneous stuff, and create the new element...in his head. Of course, he expected it to take longer, and proably for Tony to destroy or break the diorama in the process so that only his son would know it. He didn’t realize how powerful the 21st century’s computers would become, so Tony deciphers it in minutes instead of hours.

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** Some people have criticised criticized the movie for how Howard Stark somehow predicted that Tony would have a holographic computer that could copy and pull out random parts of the diorama, except the Fridge Brilliance is that he didn’t predict that. He wanted to keep the new element a secret except only from Tony, and he didn’t know his own son well enough to use a pop culture reference or something from his childhood only Tony would know. The only thing he knows for sure is that Tony is as smart, or smarter than himself. So how does he keep it locked for Tony’s eyes only? He makes it so hard that only someone as smart as him could decipher it. He expected Tony to see the schematic for the Stark Expo, pull out all the extraneous stuff, and create the new element... in his head. Of course, he expected it to take longer, and proably for Tony to destroy or break the diorama in the process so that only his son would know it. He didn’t realize how powerful the 21st century’s computers would become, so Tony deciphers it in minutes instead of hours.



** At the end of the second movie, Rhodey asks Tony if he can borrow the suit for a little while longer, and Tony flatly answers no. Considering that much of Tony's dialogue was improvisd, this might have been a throwaway joke - But it could also be taken to mean that Tony doesn't consider Rhodey to be borrowing the suit, because he's already given it to him permanently.

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** At the end of the second movie, Rhodey asks Tony if he can borrow the suit for a little while longer, and Tony flatly answers no. Considering that much of Tony's dialogue was improvisd, improvised, this might have been a throwaway joke - But but it could also be taken to mean that Tony doesn't consider Rhodey to be borrowing the suit, because he's already given it to him permanently.



*** The fact that Tony did tested Rhodes while ''drunk'' also ties in with a comment from Yensin in the first movie. When Tony said he didn't remember them meeting before, Yensin's reply was "Oh, you wouldn't. If I had been that drunk, I wouldn't have been able to stand, much less give a lecture on integrated circuits." Thus showing that Tony is still capable of functioning quite well when totally plastered...even if he doesn't always remember the finer details of what happened.
* When he tries to talk Pepper into taking a European vacation(and tell her he's dying in a relaxed setting), he tries to pine her with a handmade omelette... that looks like some kind of diseased sea slug(and took three hours to make). It's highly possible that he's not a good cook, but here's the FridgeBrilliance moment: at 30,000+ feet, '''''no one is!''''' Low air pressure at [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_cooking high altitudes]] means that heat transfer is screwed up, and skillets, ovens, etc. don't work as expected - that's why frozen pizzas and such have alternate cooking times for high altitudes such as ''mountains''. Plane cabins ''are'' [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization pressurized]], but not to ground level. For example, alternate cooking instructions are considered necessary for some things above 3,000 feet above sea level; a 767 is pressurized to the equivalent of 6,900 feet. The best business jet in the world, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Global_Express Bombardier Global Express]], is pressurized to 4,500 ft, but that's still too high to make tea without a pressure cooker. It's why airline food comes in little microwave packages - that's the only cooking method that works on a plane.
* Iron Man 2 has what might be a Fridge StealthPun. What armour does Tony use on the race track? [[Anime/SpeedRacer The Mk. V]]

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*** The fact that Tony did tested Rhodes while ''drunk'' also ties in with a comment from Yensin in the first movie. When Tony said he didn't remember them meeting before, Yensin's reply was "Oh, you wouldn't. If I had been that drunk, I wouldn't have been able to stand, much less give a lecture on integrated circuits." Thus showing that Tony is still capable of functioning quite well when totally plastered... even if he doesn't always remember the finer details of what happened.
* When he tries to talk Pepper into taking a European vacation(and tell her he's dying in a relaxed setting), he tries to pine her with a handmade omelette... that looks like some kind of diseased sea slug(and slug (and took three hours to make). It's highly possible that he's not a good cook, but here's the FridgeBrilliance moment: at 30,000+ feet, '''''no one is!''''' Low air pressure at [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_cooking high altitudes]] means that heat transfer is screwed up, and skillets, ovens, etc. don't work as expected - that's why frozen pizzas and such have alternate cooking times for high altitudes such as ''mountains''. Plane cabins ''are'' [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_pressurization pressurized]], but not to ground level. For example, alternate cooking instructions are considered necessary for some things above 3,000 feet above sea level; a 767 is pressurized to the equivalent of 6,900 feet. The best business jet in the world, the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombardier_Global_Express Bombardier Global Express]], is pressurized to 4,500 ft, but that's still too high to make tea without a pressure cooker. It's why airline food comes in little microwave packages - that's the only cooking method that works on a plane.
* Iron Man 2 has what might be a Fridge StealthPun. What armour armor does Tony use on the race track? [[Anime/SpeedRacer The Mk. V]]V]].



** Best part? Vanko ''got the Ten Rings exactly what they wanted.'' By giving Vanko false ID and a ticket to get him to Monaco so he could pick a fight with Stark, they scared the US government into seizing Iron Man technology. Acting on behalf of his superiors, Rhodey stole a suit, and let Hammer pull it apart. Between Senator Stern's political/military connections and Hammer's criminal connections, '''Stark's technology is out of the bottle.''' The Ten Rings, via the connection the military refused to acknowledge, now has its "gift of iron soldiers". And "A man with a dozen of these could rule all of Asia." Say Hi to the Mandarin for me, Stern.
* During Hammer's description of the Ex-Wife, which is mostly just him giving it flattering compliments that have little to nothing to do with its capabilities, he only gives one notable piece of technical information about it. He describes the missile as containing a 'cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine RDX burst'. [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment He used two different terms for the same explosive (RDX) back-to-back.]] [[AndThatsTerrible And that's terrible]], but consider how that would be written in engineering notation - "'cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine ''(RDX)'' burst". He's quoting the schematics. '''[[SmallNameBigEgo He does not have the slightest idea what he's talking about.]]'''
** Likewise when Hammer presents all these weapons neither the Air Force officer nor Rhodey seem particular interested or amazed. It's because he is showing two military officers existing and already in-service weapons. He is acting as if he is dealing with two civilians who have never used a gun in their life and trying to impress them. The worst part: He calls the M134 minigun "Puff the Magic Dragon". The two Air Force officers know that Puff the Magic Dragon was the nickname for the first AC-47 ''gunships'' used in Vietnam, not the guns.

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** Best part? Vanko ''got the Ten Rings exactly what they wanted.'' By giving Vanko false ID and a ticket to get him to Monaco so he could pick a fight with Stark, they scared the US U.S. government into seizing Iron Man technology. Acting on behalf of his superiors, Rhodey stole a suit, and let Hammer pull it apart. Between Senator Stern's political/military connections and Hammer's criminal connections, '''Stark's technology is out of the bottle.''' The Ten Rings, via the connection the military refused to acknowledge, now has its "gift of iron soldiers". And "A man with a dozen of these could rule all of Asia." Say Hi "hi" to the Mandarin for me, Stern.
* During Hammer's description of the Ex-Wife, which is mostly just him giving it flattering compliments that have little to nothing to do with its capabilities, he only gives one notable piece of technical information about it. He describes the missile as containing a 'cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine RDX burst'. [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment He used two different terms for the same explosive (RDX) back-to-back.]] [[AndThatsTerrible And that's terrible]], but consider how that would be written in engineering notation - "'cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine ''(RDX)'' burst". He's quoting the schematics. '''[[SmallNameBigEgo He does not have the slightest idea what he's talking about.]]'''
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** Likewise when Hammer presents all these weapons weapons, neither the Air Force officer nor Rhodey seem particular interested or amazed. It's because he is showing two military officers existing and already in-service weapons. He is acting as if he is dealing with two civilians who have never used a gun in their life and trying to impress them. The worst part: He calls the M134 minigun "Puff the Magic Dragon". The two Air Force officers know that Puff the Magic Dragon was the nickname for the first AC-47 ''gunships'' used in Vietnam, not the guns.



* In the scene before Hammer arrives to see the Iron Man Mark II armor, Rhodey is removing and hiding the arc reactor, with the air force officer not complaining but just asking about it's importance. Fridge Logic kicks in when one realise that the air force officer does not trust Hammer either and that the US government must have given Rhodey the right to hide vital informations from a private arms manufactor like Hammer. Especialy the heart of the suit.

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* In the scene before Hammer arrives to see the Iron Man Mark II armor, Rhodey is removing and hiding the arc reactor, with the air force officer not complaining but just asking about it's importance. Fridge Logic kicks in when one realise that the air force officer does not trust Hammer either and that the US U.S. government must have given Rhodey the right to hide vital informations from a private arms manufactor like Hammer. Especialy the heart of the suit.
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** Further supporting the original two points here, [[note]] a comment-chain I saw elsewhere pointed out that[[/note]] ''Justin Hammer himself'' named it a ''kinetic'' kill sidewinder, meaning it ''requires distance and speed to get up to full armour-penetrating power.'' Maybe Hammer's not so inept as we think... Still the matter of the paper-armoured drones though.
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* GenreSavvy fans have questioned why the government stuck Rhodes in a suit and let him introduce Hammer's demonstration at the Stark Expo with no training, given that War Machine is not only rendered completely helpless by a simple suit hack, but ends up ''doing more damage than the drones.'' Brilliance: They ''didn't'' expect him to have to fight because they ''haven't'' yet figured out that their universe is becoming a comic book. Quoting the [[http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/2011 official timeline;]]

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* GenreSavvy fans Fans have questioned why the government stuck Rhodes in a suit and let him introduce Hammer's demonstration at the Stark Expo with no training, given that War Machine is not only rendered completely helpless by a simple suit hack, but ends up ''doing more damage than the drones.'' Brilliance: They ''didn't'' expect him to have to fight because they ''haven't'' yet figured out that their universe is becoming a comic book. Quoting the [[http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/2011 official timeline;]]
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** Rhodey and the Air Force officer are unimpressed by Hammer's description of the Ex-Wife; they're looking at him like he's full of shit, and it's for good reason. They can't believe that a tiny little rocket held in the palm of Hammer's hand can "bust a bunker under the bunker it just busted" and if "it were any smarter it would write a book". Modern bunker busters are large, aircraft carried munitions and the only known bunker busters that can do what Hammer alleges are ''nuclear'' bunker busters. So basically they just think he's talking out of his ass with the Ex-Wife.

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* ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' reveals that [[spoiler:Senator Stern is a mole for HYDRA within the US government.]] Now his drive to obtain the Iron Man suits for the military takes on a much different light: he wants to hand them over to HYDRA, not to the government.
* Imagine not only what Vanko could make Rhodes do after he hacks into the War Machine suit, but what he could do to Rhodes simply by making the suit move in ways the human body isn't supposed to move.
** The way the suit is built may incorporate measures to prevent this. It could still be flown into a solid wall or held underwater though.
* The failed Hammertech ''manned'' power armor test run. This ended badly [[spoiler:when the torso of the suit rotated 180 degrees (with a crack and muffled scream)]]. Seems funny at first, but rivals ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' in terms of [[GoryDiscretionShot unseen]] BodyHorror.
** "I'd like to point out that that test pilot survived". Not exactly skipping down the street, one would wager. The test pilot's probably permanently paralyzed.
** And why would a suit of PowerArmor even be ''designed'' with that much range of motion?
*** It's Hammertech.
** Given a calllback...tuns out? DoctorStrange nearly saw that guy.
* At the party, Tony is essentially ''drunk driving'' the most advanced weapons platform ever developed. ''And it's armed.''
** Also in a bit of FridgeBrilliance, J.A.R.V.I.S. was keeping people safe until Rhodey showed up in the Mark II.

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* ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'' reveals that [[spoiler:Senator Stern is a mole for HYDRA within the US government.]] Now his drive to obtain the Iron Man suits for the military takes on a much different light: he wants to hand them over to HYDRA, not to the government.
* Imagine not only what Vanko could make Rhodes do after he hacks into the War Machine suit, but what he could do to Rhodes simply by making the suit move in ways the human body isn't supposed to move.
** The way the suit is built may incorporate measures to prevent this. It could still be flown into a solid wall or held underwater though.
* The failed Hammertech ''manned'' power armor test run. This ended badly [[spoiler:when the torso of the suit rotated 180 degrees (with a crack and muffled scream)]]. Seems funny at first, but rivals ''Film/TheDarkKnight'' in terms of [[GoryDiscretionShot unseen]] BodyHorror.
** "I'd like to point out that that test pilot survived". Not exactly skipping down the street, one would wager. The test pilot's probably permanently paralyzed.
** And why would a suit of PowerArmor even be ''designed'' with that much range of motion?
*** It's Hammertech.
** Given a calllback...tuns out? DoctorStrange nearly saw that guy.
* At the party, Tony is essentially ''drunk driving'' the most advanced weapons platform ever developed. ''And it's armed.''
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'' Also in a bit of FridgeBrilliance, J.A.R.V.I.S. was keeping people safe until Rhodey showed up in the Mark II.
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* Obi framed Anton Vanko for espionage. Think about Fury's explanation - Vanko was a Soviet spy who ''also'' wanted to get rich against Howard's wishes. Commie capitalist does not compute. But an abundant source of clean energy would end conflict. Especially one designed by an American-Russian partnership in the middle of the Cold War. So Obi faked evidence of Vanko's espionage. Howard knew it but couldn't prove anything, which is why he still named Tony after Anton. SHIELD knew but stuck with the official story, just as with Obi's eventual death. [spoiler:And, when you think about it, it's likely that HYDRA may have had their own reasons to conjure up an excuse to get Vanko out of the picture [spoiler: after HYDRA's involvement in Howard's death becomes clear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'').]

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* Obi framed Anton Vanko for espionage. Think about Fury's explanation - Vanko was a Soviet spy who ''also'' wanted to get rich against Howard's wishes. Commie capitalist does not compute. But an abundant source of clean energy would end conflict. Especially one designed by an American-Russian partnership in the middle of the Cold War. So Obi faked evidence of Vanko's espionage. Howard knew it but couldn't prove anything, which is why he still named Tony after Anton. SHIELD knew but stuck with the official story, just as with Obi's eventual death. [spoiler:And, [[spoiler:And, when you think about it, it's likely that HYDRA may have had their own reasons to conjure up an excuse to get Vanko out of the picture [spoiler: after HYDRA's involvement in Howard's death becomes clear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'').]]]

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* Obi framed Anton Vanko for espionage. Think about Fury's explanation - Vanko was a Soviet spy who ''also'' wanted to get rich against Howard's wishes. Commie capitalist does not compute. But an abundant source of clean energy would end conflict. Especially one designed by an American-Russian partnership in the middle of the Cold War. So Obi faked evidence of Vanko's espionage. Howard knew it but couldn't prove anything, which is why he still named Tony after Anton. SHIELD knew but stuck with the official story, just as with Obi's eventual death. [spoiler:And, when you think about it, it's likely that HYDRA may have had their own reasons to conjure up an excuse to get Vanko out of the picture (after HYDRA's involvement in Howard's death becomes clear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'').]

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* Obi framed Anton Vanko for espionage. Think about Fury's explanation - Vanko was a Soviet spy who ''also'' wanted to get rich against Howard's wishes. Commie capitalist does not compute. But an abundant source of clean energy would end conflict. Especially one designed by an American-Russian partnership in the middle of the Cold War. So Obi faked evidence of Vanko's espionage. Howard knew it but couldn't prove anything, which is why he still named Tony after Anton. SHIELD knew but stuck with the official story, just as with Obi's eventual death. [spoiler:And, when you think about it, it's likely that HYDRA may have had their own reasons to conjure up an excuse to get Vanko out of the picture (after [spoiler: after HYDRA's involvement in Howard's death becomes clear in ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'').]



* In ''Iron Man 2'', I was initially annoyed that the Hammeroids were getting torn apart so easily by the standard-issue weapons in War Machine's suit. If they're using Iron Man tech, they should be a lot tougher, right? A concealed [=FN2000=] and a chaingun wouldn't have even bothered Tony's suit. Then you realize that the Hammeroids, aside from being Hammer Industries technology and thus prone to failure, were also ''showroom models'' and not the weapons systems meant to go from the production line to the front lines. They were built for show, not combat; no wonder they were getting torn to pieces. Hell, they were probably armored with ''cheap plastic.''

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* In ''Iron Man 2'', I was One may be initially annoyed that the Hammeroids were getting torn apart so easily by the standard-issue weapons in War Machine's suit. If they're using Iron Man tech, they should be a lot tougher, right? A concealed [=FN2000=] and a chaingun wouldn't have even bothered Tony's suit. Then you realize that the Hammeroids, aside from being Hammer Industries technology and thus prone to failure, were also ''showroom models'' and not the weapons systems meant to go from the production line to the front lines. They were built for show, not combat; no wonder they were getting torn to pieces. Hell, they were probably armored with ''cheap plastic.''



* When the Mark II suit is refitted into the War Machine armor, one of the more confusing minor details I noticed was the seemingly inexplicable exaggeration of the round plates over the ears on the helmet. Originally, they were nearly flush with the helmet and not that big, but now they were just these big discs sitting on the sides of the helmet and they were confusing. After all, since when would the ears need extra protection from anything? Since the suit was configured so that it'd regularly have a ''gatling gun firing next to its wearer's head''. -- {{Tropers/Orangejuicer}}

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* When the Mark II suit is refitted into the War Machine armor, one of the more confusing minor details I noticed was the seemingly inexplicable exaggeration of the round plates over the ears on the helmet. Originally, they were nearly flush with the helmet and not that big, but now they were just these big discs sitting on the sides of the helmet and they were confusing. After all, since when would the ears need extra protection from anything? Since the suit was configured so that it'd regularly have a ''gatling gun firing next to its wearer's head''. -- {{Tropers/Orangejuicer}}



* Did anyone else notice that with all the extra kit that was tacked onto the Mark II Iron Man suit (to turn it into the War Machine), the power-to-weight ratio that Tony was so concerned with maintaining in the first film would have been completely buggered? -[[http://novur.deviantart.com Novur]]
** I assume the power-to-weight ratio is referring to the thrust needed for lift. Since the Mark III chest piece could power the much larger Iron Monger suit with out a problem, that ratio has nothing to do with the power source. The War Machine armor has enhanced leg thrusters and some on its back that would compensate for its higher weight.



** Unlikely, given his suit was heavily damaged, he was surrounded by a lot of other drones ready to blow, and we did see the area explode. But... it's possible.
*** Even if he never actually was able to pull it off, it's probable that he built the self-destruct with "Set timer, escape from suit, run like hell" in mind. He was just too badly injured and/or the suit was too badly damaged when he triggered it to actually do it.

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