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** Also, while in ''Revelation'' Corrin and Azura discuss that Nohrians may see the Hoshidans as people who think they are better that the rest, Nohr wages war against Hoshido mostly to [[spoiler:gain resources and stop the famine their kingdom is suffering]]. There is [[NothingPersonal nothing personal]] in this war, so Nohrians don't have anything against Hoshidans. On the other hand, Hoshidans are regularly attacked by the faceless sent by Nohrians and it's shown that they destroy villages. Therefore, a lot of the Hoshidan casualties are civilians. Therefore, Hoshidans may more easily develop a grudge against Nohrians.
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** '''Rhajat:''' Her potential mothers are Nyx and Effie. Nyx is also pretty obvious as it gives Rhajat access to the same class of her Expy [[spoiler:or Reincarnation]] plus dark hair and aloof personality similar to Tharja's. Nyx's (former) penchant for cursing others is taken from her as well. Effie does seem a little out of place...until one realizes Tharja's other reclass options were Archer...and Knight, which is Effie's main class.
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** '''Rhajat:''' Her potential mothers are Nyx and Effie. Nyx is also pretty obvious as it gives Rhajat access to the same class of her Expy [[spoiler:or Reincarnation]] plus dark hair and aloof personality similar to Tharja's. Nyx's aloof personality and (former) penchant for cursing others is taken from her as well. Effie does seem a little out of place...until one realizes Tharja's other reclass options were Archer...and Knight, which is Effie's main class.
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** '''Rhajat:''' Her potential mothers are Nyx and Effie. Nyx is also pretty obvious as it gives Rhajat access to the same class of her Expy [[spoiler:or Reincarnation]] plus dark hair similar to Tharja's. Effie does seem a little out of place...until one realizes Tharja's other reclass options were Archer...and Knight, which is Effie's main class.
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** '''Rhajat:''' Her potential mothers are Nyx and Effie. Nyx is also pretty obvious as it gives Rhajat access to the same class of her Expy [[spoiler:or Reincarnation]] plus dark hair and aloof personality similar to Tharja's.Tharja's. Nyx's (former) penchant for cursing others is taken from her as well. Effie does seem a little out of place...until one realizes Tharja's other reclass options were Archer...and Knight, which is Effie's main class.
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* ''Conquest'' Chapter 13 "Uprising" has Takumi assisting the Cheve rebellion instead of Ryoma like in the other two routes. It seems odd at first but do note that Ryoma is already fought the chapter before that, and it is likely that Takumi's action is driven by his growing hatred towards the Avatar thanks to the events of the route's Chapter 10, so he thought that this is an opportunity for him to strike again after his defeat at Port Dia. As for why Ryoma is in Macarath in the first place, getting back the Avatar is a priority for him so someone else gets to help Cheve instead. In ''Birthright'' the Avatar sided with Hoshido so he doesn't have to bother looking for them in the first place while in ''Revelation'' he (and most of the royal siblings) have hated the Avatar too much to care about them so bringing the Avatar back is not in his mind at that point.
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* A popular tactic when playing ''Birthright'' and ''Conquest'' is to spare as many named characters as the game lets you. Generally, this is a prime example of VideoGameCaringPotential, but when ''Conquest'' pits you against [[spoiler: Ryoma and Takumi, sparing their retainers is actually the opposite: in feudal Japan, if a retainer's lord died in battle, it was generally expected that the retainer should commit seppuku (particularly if the retainer was a samurai; hi, Hinata). Granted, they could also become ronin, but considering how devoted Ryoma and Takumi's retainers are to them, the former scenario is sadly the most likely]]. So, far from actually saving them, we've all just condemned them to dying anyway, but with the added regret of having failed to [[spoiler: protect their lords]]. ''Ouch''.
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** The skills of all the royal siblings have a theme of contrasting with another sibling of the same gender in their respective families:
*** Ryoma's skill, "Bushido", gives him +10 to Critical, +2 damage dealt and -2 damage received when he is supported a unit whose level is less than or equal to his while Takumi's skill, "Competitive", gives him +10 to Critical, +3 damage dealt and -1 damage received when he is supported by a unit whose level is greater than or equal to his. Ryoma's skill is more balanced, reflecting his code of honor as a samurai and desire to protect those weaker than him as the future king of Hoshido. Takumi's skill is more offense-based as he feels he needs to prove himself as the strongest in the family and is thus more inclined to work harder if he's alongside someone who is stronger than he is.
*** Hinoka's skill, "Rallying Cry", increases the damage dealt by allies within a certain radius by 2 while Sakura's skill, "Quiet Strength", reduces the damage allies receive within the same radius by 2. The Hoshidan sisters' skills are more passive than their brothers', which is justified as princesses typically don't fight on the front lines as often as princes. Furthermore, Hinoka's skill grants an offensive buff as she is still the better warrior of the two while Sakura's grants a defensive buff because she is the better healer.
*** Xander's skill, Chivalry, grants +2 to damage dealt and -2 to damage taken against enemies with full HP while Leo's skill, Pragmatic, grants +3 to damage dealt and -1 to damage received against enemies that aren't at full HP. Xander's skill reflects his own code of honor and status as the crown prince of Nohr while Leo's skill reflects his own pragmatic nature as someone who uses his brains over his brawn to win battles.
*** Camilla's skill, "Rose's Thorns", grants +3 to damage dealt and -1 to damage received to adjacent allies while Elise's skill, "Lily's Poise", grants +1 to damage dealt and -3 to damage received to adjacent allies. Like the Hoshidan sisters, Camilla's skill is more suited for offense while Elise's is more suited for support as befitting their status as an offensive and supportive unit, respectively.
*** Ryoma's skill, "Bushido", gives him +10 to Critical, +2 damage dealt and -2 damage received when he is supported a unit whose level is less than or equal to his while Takumi's skill, "Competitive", gives him +10 to Critical, +3 damage dealt and -1 damage received when he is supported by a unit whose level is greater than or equal to his. Ryoma's skill is more balanced, reflecting his code of honor as a samurai and desire to protect those weaker than him as the future king of Hoshido. Takumi's skill is more offense-based as he feels he needs to prove himself as the strongest in the family and is thus more inclined to work harder if he's alongside someone who is stronger than he is.
*** Hinoka's skill, "Rallying Cry", increases the damage dealt by allies within a certain radius by 2 while Sakura's skill, "Quiet Strength", reduces the damage allies receive within the same radius by 2. The Hoshidan sisters' skills are more passive than their brothers', which is justified as princesses typically don't fight on the front lines as often as princes. Furthermore, Hinoka's skill grants an offensive buff as she is still the better warrior of the two while Sakura's grants a defensive buff because she is the better healer.
*** Xander's skill, Chivalry, grants +2 to damage dealt and -2 to damage taken against enemies with full HP while Leo's skill, Pragmatic, grants +3 to damage dealt and -1 to damage received against enemies that aren't at full HP. Xander's skill reflects his own code of honor and status as the crown prince of Nohr while Leo's skill reflects his own pragmatic nature as someone who uses his brains over his brawn to win battles.
*** Camilla's skill, "Rose's Thorns", grants +3 to damage dealt and -1 to damage received to adjacent allies while Elise's skill, "Lily's Poise", grants +1 to damage dealt and -3 to damage received to adjacent allies. Like the Hoshidan sisters, Camilla's skill is more suited for offense while Elise's is more suited for support as befitting their status as an offensive and supportive unit, respectively.
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** Beruka's skill is "Opportunist", which allows her to deal more damage when attacking an enemy who can't fight back. Beruka is an assassin who specializes in striking when her target least expects it, so when she has an enemy in her sights who is practically defenseless, of course it's going to hurt a lot more.
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** Beruka's skill is "Opportunist", which allows her to deal more damage when attacking an enemy who can't fight back. Beruka is an assassin who specializes in striking when her target least expects it, so when she has an enemy in her sights who is practically defenseless, of course it's her attacks are going to hurt a lot more.
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* Each unit comes with a unique personal skill that is exclusive only to them. While the effects of each skill differ between each unit, they usually factor into the unit's personality or character traits. Here are some examples:
** Izana's skill is "Peacebringer", which lowers the damage dealt by both allies and enemies. A bit of a letdown, yes, but it reinforces Izana's position as the leader of a peaceful and ultimately neutral kingdom. Izana may be fighting for you, but that doesn't mean that he's going to give you special privileges. He extends his blessings to any kingdom regardless of which side they are fighting for.
** Benny's skill is "Fierce Mien", which lowers the avoidance of all enemies who are within two spaces of Benny. Considering that Benny is a giant man with a FaceOfAThug, you'd probably be too scared to do anything too if you saw him advancing towards you.
** Beruka's skill is "Opportunist", which allows her to deal more damage when attacking an enemy who can't fight back. Beruka is an assassin who specializes in striking when her target least expects it, so when she has an enemy in her sights who is practically defenseless, of course it's going to hurt a lot more.
** Charlotte's skill is "Unmask", which grants her a damage and critical boost when she engages a female unit in combat. Charlotte reveals in her supports that she's very proficient in combat and her bio confirms that she is the strongest fighter in the army. However, because she wants herself to come across as ladylike to men, she has to cover herself up and act weaker than she actually is. Around women, however, she has no such limitation and so she's free to go all out on them and preferably defeat them so they won't be able to tell other men to stay away from her.
** Effie's skill is "Puissance", which increases her damage dealt if her Strength is higher than an enemy's by a certain amount. Considering how strong Effie is, the only way for any enemy to stand a chance against her is for them to be of similar strength level, thus counteracting her strength with their own. Otherwise, yeah, getting hit is going to hurt a lot.
** Nyx's skill is "Countercurse", which deals back half of the damage she receives to an enemy if she is hit by a magic attack. Given how long she has lived, it makes sense that she's seen almost every spell known to man and developed specific countermeasures should she ever be on the receiving end of one.
** Azama's skill is "Divine Retribution", which deals back half of the damage he receives to an enemy if he doesn't have a weapon equipped. Not only does it reflect how it is considered an offence in most religions to attack an unarmed priest, it cements Azama's status as the resident {{Troll}}. After all, what better way to troll your opponents than by deliberately placing yourself out in the open for them to attack only for them to get hit by their own attack?
** Hayato's skill is "Pride", which gives him a damage boost if he engages an enemy that is of a higher level than him. Hayato is keen on insisting that he is older than he actually is and as a result is confident that he can take on people who are more powerful than he is.
** Kaden's skill is "Reciprocity", in which any healer who heals him with a staff or a rod will also be healed by half that amount. Kaden himself is insistent on repaying whatever good deeds people did for him and so he is doing the same here. However, since he himself isn't trained in the healing arts it makes sense that what he gives back isn't as much as what he receives.
** Oboro's skill is "Nohr Enmity", which gives her a damage boost whenever she attacks a Nohrian unit. Oboro holds a severe grudge against Nohrians because of what they did to her and her family in the past and so it makes sense that she would take all that anger out on any Nohrian she lays eyes on.
** Izana's skill is "Peacebringer", which lowers the damage dealt by both allies and enemies. A bit of a letdown, yes, but it reinforces Izana's position as the leader of a peaceful and ultimately neutral kingdom. Izana may be fighting for you, but that doesn't mean that he's going to give you special privileges. He extends his blessings to any kingdom regardless of which side they are fighting for.
** Benny's skill is "Fierce Mien", which lowers the avoidance of all enemies who are within two spaces of Benny. Considering that Benny is a giant man with a FaceOfAThug, you'd probably be too scared to do anything too if you saw him advancing towards you.
** Beruka's skill is "Opportunist", which allows her to deal more damage when attacking an enemy who can't fight back. Beruka is an assassin who specializes in striking when her target least expects it, so when she has an enemy in her sights who is practically defenseless, of course it's going to hurt a lot more.
** Charlotte's skill is "Unmask", which grants her a damage and critical boost when she engages a female unit in combat. Charlotte reveals in her supports that she's very proficient in combat and her bio confirms that she is the strongest fighter in the army. However, because she wants herself to come across as ladylike to men, she has to cover herself up and act weaker than she actually is. Around women, however, she has no such limitation and so she's free to go all out on them and preferably defeat them so they won't be able to tell other men to stay away from her.
** Effie's skill is "Puissance", which increases her damage dealt if her Strength is higher than an enemy's by a certain amount. Considering how strong Effie is, the only way for any enemy to stand a chance against her is for them to be of similar strength level, thus counteracting her strength with their own. Otherwise, yeah, getting hit is going to hurt a lot.
** Nyx's skill is "Countercurse", which deals back half of the damage she receives to an enemy if she is hit by a magic attack. Given how long she has lived, it makes sense that she's seen almost every spell known to man and developed specific countermeasures should she ever be on the receiving end of one.
** Azama's skill is "Divine Retribution", which deals back half of the damage he receives to an enemy if he doesn't have a weapon equipped. Not only does it reflect how it is considered an offence in most religions to attack an unarmed priest, it cements Azama's status as the resident {{Troll}}. After all, what better way to troll your opponents than by deliberately placing yourself out in the open for them to attack only for them to get hit by their own attack?
** Hayato's skill is "Pride", which gives him a damage boost if he engages an enemy that is of a higher level than him. Hayato is keen on insisting that he is older than he actually is and as a result is confident that he can take on people who are more powerful than he is.
** Kaden's skill is "Reciprocity", in which any healer who heals him with a staff or a rod will also be healed by half that amount. Kaden himself is insistent on repaying whatever good deeds people did for him and so he is doing the same here. However, since he himself isn't trained in the healing arts it makes sense that what he gives back isn't as much as what he receives.
** Oboro's skill is "Nohr Enmity", which gives her a damage boost whenever she attacks a Nohrian unit. Oboro holds a severe grudge against Nohrians because of what they did to her and her family in the past and so it makes sense that she would take all that anger out on any Nohrian she lays eyes on.
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* When you're storming Hoshido in ''Conquest'', the chapter names are named after the Hoshidan royal siblings. Takumi is the only exception, as his chapter is simply named "Possession". [[spoiler:His battle theme is also the very same one used against the invisible Swordmaster back in Chapter 5, who hails from Valla. In other words, the chapter's title and Takumi's battle theme is subtle {{Foreshadowing}} to Anankos's possession of Takumi.]]
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* When you're storming Hoshido in ''Conquest'', the chapter names are named after the Hoshidan royal siblings. Takumi is the only exception, as his chapter is simply named "Possession"."Possessed". [[spoiler:His battle theme is also the very same one used against the invisible Swordmaster back in Chapter 5, who hails from Valla. In other words, the chapter's title and Takumi's battle theme is subtle {{Foreshadowing}} to Anankos's possession of Takumi.]]
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.]]'' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.]]
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own (Azura) for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.]]'' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.]]
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.]]'' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.]]'' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.]]
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.']]' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.']]' ]]'' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.']]' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.
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* Okay, this troper isn't certain whether this is FridgeBrilliance or FridgeHorror, but here we go. [[spoiler:Some people think that Fates is BlackAndWhiteMorality incarnate, with the peace-loving Hoshido and the war-like Nohr setting the stage of the conflict. That would be true, but then you realize the historical analogies between Conquest!Hoshido and UsefulNotes/ImperialJapan. After being bullied by numerous nations into partaking into the world scene, coupled by other factors like the Great Depression, Japan became a fascist nation that effectively became the [[HeWhoFightsMonsters bully to the so-called bullies.]] Thing is, this is the ''exact same set up'' Hoshido has in Conquest; with a massive hatred towards Nohrians over a king who doesn't even represent the people as a whole, and the fact that Queen Mikoto (and a Birthright-aligned Avatar) are the only ones preventing Hoshido from JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope really enforces the fact that with Hoshido sacking Port Dia, forcibly ousting one of their own for execution due to wartime, and all other manners of crimes committed, if the war went on longer, ''[[AdultFear Hoshido could've become just as bad as Nohr with the anti-nationalist leaders out of the way.']]' Hoshido is definitely ALighterShadeOfGrey, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't become just as bad as the monsters they were fighting.
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* HilariousInHindsight: When looking up the definition of Ignatius, it says "fiery one". Now, in ''Revelation'', which Female 1st Gen Hoshidan (other than Oboro) can S-support with Benny? For those who don't get it, the answer is Rinkah, who is known for mentioning fire-related puns (an example being all of her English Critical Quotes).
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* In chapter 13 of ''Birthright'', one of the houses you can visit has a girl comment that she heard the resistance has a "mysterious new member", and gives you a Talisman to give to him. The Talisman is an item that permanently raises one's Resistance by 2 points, and Resistance is one of Ryoma's two (the other being Defense) lagging stats.
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* So, according to [[spoiler:Hinoka's supports with the Avatar]], [[spoiler:Mikoto showed up one day with "a newborn baby" — the Avatar — and married Sumeragi]]. Problem is, [[spoiler:Takumi and Sakura are younger than the Avatar — they couldn't have been born yet, meaning their real mother, Queen Ikona, was still alive at the time]], therefore technically speaking, [[spoiler:Sumeragi was [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on Ikona with Mikoto]].]] But why isn't this seen as an outrage or as at least a little reprehensible, never mind [[spoiler:Mikoto becoming TheHighQueen]] ''and''[[spoiler:how Garon's penchant for keeping lovers ruined Nohr's court]]? The cause might be that, aside of [[spoiler:Mikoto's own talents and kindness]], [[spoiler:Hoshido is modeled after MedievalJapan, where noblemen were allowed to have a wife plus concubines ''and'' [[http://hubpages.com/education/Women-in-the-Heian-Court some smart-enough court ladies]] (especially in the Heian era, the time where the famous [[LadyInWaiting court ladies]] and writers [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murasaki_Shikibu Murasaki Shikibu]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sei_Shonagon Sei Shonagon]] lived) made whole careers out of being lovers and sometimes advisors to powerful men... and Sumeragi ''happens'' to be the most powerful man in the whole of Hoshido. Since Sumeragi isn't said to have had ''other'' romantic liasons aside of Ikona and Mikoto, unlike Garon who married twice ''and'' went the MarryThemAll path, it probably wasn't hard for [[YamatoNadeshiko Mikoto]] to start as Sumeragi's official mistress, [[RemarriedToTheMistress become his legal wife when he's widowed]], and ''then'' turn herself into the Noble Queen of the Hoshido ''and'' the kindly ParentalSubstitute to the Hoshidan princes and princesses, despite her unclear origins.]]
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* So, according to [[spoiler:Hinoka's supports with the Avatar]], [[spoiler:Mikoto showed up one day with "a newborn baby" — the Avatar — and married Sumeragi]]. Problem is, [[spoiler:Takumi and Sakura are younger than the Avatar — they couldn't have been born yet, meaning their real mother, Queen Ikona, was still alive at the time]], therefore technically speaking, [[spoiler:Sumeragi was [[YourCheatingHeart cheating on Ikona with Mikoto]].]] But why isn't this seen as an outrage or as at least a little reprehensible, never mind [[spoiler:Mikoto becoming TheHighQueen]] ''and''[[spoiler:how Garon's penchant for keeping lovers ruined Nohr's court]]? The cause might be that, aside of [[spoiler:Mikoto's own talents and kindness]], [[spoiler:Hoshido is modeled after MedievalJapan, where noblemen were allowed to have a wife plus concubines ''and'' [[http://hubpages.com/education/Women-in-the-Heian-Court some smart-enough court ladies]] (especially in the Heian era, the time where the famous [[LadyInWaiting court ladies]] and writers [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murasaki_Shikibu Murasaki Shikibu]] and [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sei_Shonagon Sei Shonagon]] lived) made whole careers out of being lovers and sometimes advisors to powerful men... and Sumeragi ''happens'' to be the most powerful man in the whole of Hoshido. Since Sumeragi isn't said to have had ''other'' romantic liasons aside of Ikona and Mikoto, unlike Garon who married twice ''and'' went the MarryThemAll path, it probably wasn't hard for [[YamatoNadeshiko Mikoto]] to start as Sumeragi's official mistress, [[RemarriedToTheMistress become his legal wife when he's widowed]], and ''then'' turn reinvent herself into as the Noble Queen of the Hoshido ''and'' the kindly ParentalSubstitute to the Hoshidan princes and princesses, despite her unclear origins.]]
** Plus, in these days [[spoiler: a concubine to TheEmperor of Japan could perfectly be the mother of said Emperor's children and maybe even his ''successor'', the last example being [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Taisho Emperor Taisho]]'s mother [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanagihara_Naruko Lady Naruko Yanagihara]]. Under that logic, Sumeragi (whose name in kanji ''does'' mean "Emperor") could perfectly bring Mikoto and the Avatar into the Hoshidan court under the excuse that the Avatar is his HeroicBastard and he means to GiveTheBabyAFather...]]
** Plus, in these days [[spoiler: a concubine to TheEmperor of Japan could perfectly be the mother of said Emperor's children and maybe even his ''successor'', the last example being [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Taisho Emperor Taisho]]'s mother [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanagihara_Naruko Lady Naruko Yanagihara]]. Under that logic, Sumeragi (whose name in kanji ''does'' mean "Emperor") could perfectly bring Mikoto and the Avatar into the Hoshidan court under the excuse that the Avatar is his HeroicBastard and he means to GiveTheBabyAFather...]]
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* The Revelations route has the two sets of siblings confronting the ideals of the opposite nation- loyalty and morality for Nohr and Hoshido respectively. The Nohrian siblings are all forced to confront the fact that Garon is a clear villain, and all ust make the moral choice to instead follow Corrin. Meanwhile, the Hoshidans must decide whether they want to stay with their kingdom, or follow their sibling, which leads to them ultimately choosing to follow Corrin, with their loyalty to Corrin, overriding their morals of fighting for their kingdom against Nohrian aggressors.
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* The Revelations ''Revelation'' route has the two sets of siblings confronting the ideals of the opposite nation- loyalty and morality for Nohr and Hoshido respectively. The Nohrian siblings are all forced to confront the fact that Garon is a clear villain, and all ust must make the moral choice to instead follow Corrin. Meanwhile, the Hoshidans must decide whether they want to stay with their kingdom, or follow their sibling, which leads to them ultimately choosing to follow Corrin, with their loyalty to Corrin, overriding their morals of fighting for their kingdom against Nohrian aggressors.
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* The Revelations route has the two sets of siblings confronting the ideals of the opposite nation- loyalty and morality for Nohr and Hoshido respectively. The Nohrian siblings are all forced to confront the fact that Garon is a clear villain, and all ust make the moral choice to instead follow Corrin. Meanwhile, the Hoshidans must decide whether they want to stay with their kingdom, or follow their sibling, which leads to them ultimately choosing to follow Corrin, with their loyalty to Corrin, overriding their morals of fighting for their kingdom against Nohrian aggressors.
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* While closing off any child characters if their mother died in ''Awakening'' made sense (As they come from a BadFuture), it comes off as odd in ''Fates''. Due to the method of how second generation characters exist compared to ''Awakening'', exactly why would allowing their fathers to die result in them being unrecruitable, especially if their mothers are alive? This is quite apparent with [[spoiler: Midori]] in Birthright, as [[spoiler: it's fully possible for Kaze to be paired with someone, yet he must survive the events of Chapter 15 for Midori's paralogue to even unlock]]. Due to the TimeyWimeyBall, this technically means that [[spoiler: Kaze's death at ''that'' particular point wouldn't invalidate Midori's existence.]]
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* While closing off any child characters if their mother died in ''Awakening'' made sense (As (as they come from a BadFuture), it comes off as odd in ''Fates''. Due to the method of how second generation characters exist compared to ''Awakening'', exactly why would allowing their fathers to die result in them being unrecruitable, especially if their mothers are alive? This is quite apparent with [[spoiler: Midori]] in Birthright, as [[spoiler: it's fully possible for Kaze to be paired with someone, yet he must survive the events of Chapter 15 for Midori's paralogue to even unlock]]. Due to the TimeyWimeyBall, this technically means that [[spoiler: Kaze's death at ''that'' particular point wouldn't invalidate Midori's existence.]]
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*** It's also possible that [[spoiler:Anankos didn't bother with him since he lucked out and found a much better vessel in Takumi]].
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension of human kindness]]]]. [[spoiler: Remember, Anankos hates humans with a passion and is insane AND evil, so of ''course'' Possessed!Garon would act like a CardCarryingVillain!]]
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension of human kindness]]]]. [[spoiler: Remember, [[spoiler:Remember, Anankos hates humans with a passion and is insane AND evil, so of ''course'' Possessed!Garon would act like a CardCarryingVillain!]]
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*** It also explains in ''Birthright'' how [[spoiler: Iago [[spoiler:Iago was able to Manipulate manipulate Takumi the entire game and make him his spy. Who gave him that power? Anankos under Garon!]]
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*** It also explains in ''Birthright'' how [[spoiler: Iago was able to Manipulate Takumi the entire game and make him his spy. Who gave him that power? Anankos under Garon!]]
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** Flora and Felicia are both daughters of the chief of the Ice Tribe. When circumstances end up pitting Corrin's group against the Ice tribe, the twin sisters are forced to fight against one another. Felicia, who chooses to defend the Avatar, has a personal skill called "Absolute Support," a passive skill that can increase damage dealt or decrease damage taken when she is paired with the Avatar, reflecting her loyalty to them. Flora, who chooses to side with her tribe, instead has a skill called "Ice Blood," a counter skill that activates if Flora is attacked from a distance when her health isn't full, reflecting back damage and also debuffing the enemy. This skill not only reflects her stronger ties to her clan, but also her self-sacrificial nature.
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** Flora and Felicia are both daughters of the chief of the Ice Tribe. When circumstances end up pitting Corrin's group against the Ice tribe, the twin sisters are forced to fight against one another. Felicia, who chooses to defend the Avatar, has a personal skill called "Absolute Support," "Devoted Partner," a passive skill that can increase damage dealt or decrease damage taken when she is paired with the Avatar, reflecting her loyalty to them. Flora, who chooses to side with her tribe, instead has a skill called "Ice "Icy Blood," a counter skill that activates if Flora is attacked from a distance when her health isn't full, reflecting back damage and also debuffing the enemy. This skill not only reflects her stronger ties to her clan, but also her self-sacrificial nature.
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** Anna's secondary class is Apothecary, which promotes into either Merchant (reflecting what is she doing in most of her appearances) or Mechanist (the Replicate skill is the closest thing to represent that she has many identical sisters running around)
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* Most of Odin's critical hit quotes are him yelling out attack names. Considering his belief that naming a weapon, or in the case of magic, attacks, will make them stronger, it may be the opposite is the case- his yelling the attack names make them strong enough to be a critical hit.
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* Most of Odin's critical hit quotes are him yelling out attack names. Considering his belief that naming a weapon, weapon- or in the case of magic, attacks, attacks- will make them stronger, it may be the opposite is the case- his yelling the attack names make them strong enough to be a critical hit.
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* Most of Odin's critical hit quotes are him yelling out attack names. Considering his belief that naming a weapon, or in the case of magic, attacks, will make them stronger, it may be the opposite is the case- his yelling the attack names make them strong enough to be a critical hit.
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension of human kindness]]]], so of ''course'' Garon would act like a CardCarryingVillain!
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension of human kindness]]]], kindness]]]]. [[spoiler: Remember, Anankos hates humans with a passion and is insane AND evil, so of ''course'' Garon Possessed!Garon would act like a CardCarryingVillain!CardCarryingVillain!]]
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension]]]] [[spoiler:of human kindness]], so of ''course'' Garon would act like a CardCarryingVillain!
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension]]]] [[spoiler:of comprehension of human kindness]], kindness]]]], so of ''course'' Garon would act like a CardCarryingVillain!
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension]]]] [[spoiler:of human kindness]], so of ''course'' Garon would act like a SaturdayMorningCartoonVillain!CardCarryingVillain!
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[[[spoiler:EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension]]]] [[spoiler:of human kindness]], so of ''course'' Garon would act like a SaturdayMorningCartoonVillain!
** Once you consider that [[spoiler:Anankos is the reason for Garon's insanity, suddenly his hiring of Hans and Iago makes much more sense. After all, a king possessed by a GodOfEvil needs]] [[[[spoiler:CardCarryingVillain equally-evil henchmen to help him!]]]]
** Once you consider that [[spoiler:Anankos is the reason for Garon's insanity, suddenly his hiring of Hans and Iago makes much more sense. After all, a king possessed by a GodOfEvil needs]] [[[[spoiler:CardCarryingVillain equally-evil henchmen to help him!]]]]
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* One of the biggest [[BrokenBase divisive aspects]] of ''Conquest'' is the [[CardCarryingVillain blatant, almost cartoonish evilness of Garon, the King of Nohr]]. It's very easy to chalk up Garon's one-dimensional personality as bad writing - but ''then'' you realize that [[spoiler:this Garon is a puppet of Anankos, who has]] [[[[spoiler:EvilCannotComprehendGood [[spoiler:[[EvilCannotComprehendGood no comprehension]]]] [[spoiler:of human kindness]], so of ''course'' Garon would act like a SaturdayMorningCartoonVillain!
** Once you consider that [[spoiler:Anankos is the reason for Garon's insanity, suddenly his hiring of Hans and Iago makes much more sense. After all, a king possessed by a GodOfEvil needs]][[[[spoiler:CardCarryingVillain [[spoiler:[[CardCarryingVillain equally-evil henchmen to help him!]]]]
** Once you consider that [[spoiler:Anankos is the reason for Garon's insanity, suddenly his hiring of Hans and Iago makes much more sense. After all, a king possessed by a GodOfEvil needs]]
