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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man during [=WW1=]
he would have begun working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man during [=WW1=]
[=WW1=] he would have begun working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man during WW1 he would have begun working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man during WW1 [=WW1=]
he would have begun working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.



* SpotOfTea: The boys make Brookes' Teahouse their meetup spot.

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* SpotOfTea: The boys make Brookes' Barrow's Teahouse their meetup spot.spot, and they name their group the "Tea Club, Barrovian Society" - "TCBS" for short - after it. This group prefigured Creator/TheInklings, which formed after the war. Besides Tolkien the most famous Inkling today is Creator/CSLewis, who does not appear in the film since it's mostly set before they met.
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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man during WW1 he would have been begun working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.
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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his seventies. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published in its current form after he died in his seventies.eighties. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.
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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which was assembled and published posthumously. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which takes place literal ages before the later books. He worked on it for the rest of his life with his more famous books being more like spin-offs, and it was only assembled and published posthumously.in its current form after he died in his seventies. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory:The movie [[https://catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2019/04/30/this-tolkien-biopic-is-woefully-unconvincing/?fbclid=IwAR3mQhaXwEl5kzTZhPBitjad081H3NicQn9eZbjfACO5tClj7jCUENR546w took some]] [[https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/sdg-reviews-tolkien flack]] on Catholic websites for ignoring Tolkien's Christian faith.
** The {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which was assembled and published posthumously. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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** The expected {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which was assembled and published posthumously. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory:The movie [[https://catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2019/04/30/this-tolkien-biopic-is-woefully-unconvincing/?fbclid=IwAR3mQhaXwEl5kzTZhPBitjad081H3NicQn9eZbjfACO5tClj7jCUENR546w took some]] [[https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/sdg-reviews-tolkien flack]] on Catholic websites for ignoring Tolkien's Christian faith.
** The {{Call Forward}}s to Tolkien's Middle-earth works are basically all about ''The Lord of the Rings'' and ''The Hobbit'', as much as the film can get away with while WritingAroundTrademarks. But he only wrote those books decades later. Instead, as a young man he would have been working on what would become ''The Silmarillion'', which was assembled and published posthumously. This is probably due to SmallReferencePools: ''The Silmarillion'' is yet unknown to the general public since it doesn't have a blockbuster movie adaptation yet, unlike the others.

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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor Creator/JRRTolkien, author of ''Literature/TheHobbit'', ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', and ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', as well as notable academic works.

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Tolkien ''Tolkien'' is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor Creator/JRRTolkien, author of ''Literature/TheHobbit'', ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', and ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', as well as notable academic works.






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* BloodyHorror: While Tolkien and his companion are navigating the trenches, they happen upon [[spoiler: a well in the ground surrounded by corpses. Exhausted, Tolkien collapses in the lake of blood that has pooled in the centre of the crater.]]

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* BloodyHorror: While Tolkien and his companion are navigating the trenches, they happen upon [[spoiler: a [[spoiler:a well in the ground surrounded by corpses. Exhausted, Tolkien collapses in the lake of blood that has pooled in the centre of the crater.]]



* PeriodPiece: Takes place during Tolkien's childhood in the early 1900s, particularly focusing on his experiences during World War 1.

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* PeriodPiece: Takes place during Tolkien's childhood in the early 1900s, particularly focusing on his experiences during World War 1.I.



* WarIsHell: Of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures in No Man's Land - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]

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* WarIsHell: Of the four boys, [[spoiler: only [[spoiler:only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - -- despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures in No Man's Land - -- remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]



** As an officer, Tolkien is assigned a "batman" (not [[Franchise/{{Batman}} that one]], obviously), a soldier serving as his personal assistant... named Sam.

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** As an officer, Tolkien is assigned a "batman" (not [[Franchise/{{Batman}} that one]], obviously), a soldier serving as his personal assistant... named Sam.Sam.
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* SpotOfTea: The boy's make Brookes' Teahouse their meetup spot.

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* SpotOfTea: The boy's boys make Brookes' Teahouse their meetup spot.
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* WritingAroundTrademarks: The Tolkien Estate was uninvolved in the making of the film and so the filmmakers didn't have the rights to reference Tolkien's creations directly, but there are plenty of allusions instead.

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* WritingAroundTrademarks: The Tolkien Estate was uninvolved in the making of the film and so the filmmakers didn't have the rights to reference Tolkien's creations directly, but there are plenty of allusions instead.instead:



** As an officer, Tolkien is assigned a "batman" (not that one, obviously), a soldier serving as his personal assistant... named Sam.

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** As an officer, Tolkien is assigned a "batman" (not [[Franchise/{{Batman}} that one, one]], obviously), a soldier serving as his personal assistant... named Sam.
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* WarIsHell: Of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures in No Man's Land - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]

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* WarIsHell: Of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures in No Man's Land - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]]]
* WritingAroundTrademarks: The Tolkien Estate was uninvolved in the making of the film and so the filmmakers didn't have the rights to reference Tolkien's creations directly, but there are plenty of allusions instead.
** Elements in Tolkien's life that helped inspire the story of [[Literature/TheSilmarillion Beren and Lúthien]] are depicted, but neither name is ever spoken or written.
** As an officer, Tolkien is assigned a "batman" (not that one, obviously), a soldier serving as his personal assistant... named Sam.
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* SmashCut: During their lunch, Edith throws a sugar cube onto the brim of a lady's hat then tells Tolkien to. Aghast, he states that he can do such thing and she asks him 'what's the worst that could happen?' [[spoiler: Cut to both of them being kicked out the restaurant.]]

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* SmashCut: During their lunch, Edith throws a sugar cube onto the brim of a lady's hat hat, then tells Tolkien to. to do the same. Aghast, he states that he can do no such thing thing, and she asks him 'what's the worst that could happen?' [[spoiler: Cut to both of them being kicked out of the restaurant.]]
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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor Creator/JRRTolkien, author of Literature/TheHobbit, Literature/TheLordOfTheRings, and Literature/TheSilmarillion, as well as notable academic works.

The film stars Nicholas Hoult as '''J.R.R. Tolkien'''

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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor Creator/JRRTolkien, author of Literature/TheHobbit, Literature/TheLordOfTheRings, ''Literature/TheHobbit'', ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'', and Literature/TheSilmarillion, ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', as well as notable academic works.

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* [[spoiler: DeadAllAlong: The main crux of the story involves Tolkien searching for his friend Geoff on the battlefield. When Tolkien returns home, Edith reveals that he had died two weeks previously.]]

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* [[spoiler: DeadAllAlong: The [[spoiler:The main crux of the story involves Tolkien searching for his friend Geoff on the battlefield. When Tolkien returns home, Edith reveals that he had died two weeks previously.]]
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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor J. R. R. Tolkien, author of Literature/TheHobbit, Literature/TheLordOfTheRings, and Literature/TheSilmarillion, as well as notable academic works.

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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor J. R. R. Tolkien, Creator/JRRTolkien, author of Literature/TheHobbit, Literature/TheLordOfTheRings, and Literature/TheSilmarillion, as well as notable academic works.
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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor J. R. R. Tolkien, author of The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, and The Silmarillion, as well as notable academic works.

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Tolkien is a 2019 American biographical drama film directed by Dome Karukoski and written by David Gleeson and Stephen Beresford. It is about the early life of English professor J. R. R. Tolkien, author of The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, Literature/TheHobbit, Literature/TheLordOfTheRings, and The Silmarillion, Literature/TheSilmarillion, as well as notable academic works.
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* SmashCut: During their lunch, Edith throws a sugar cube onto the brim of a lady's hat then tells Tolkien to. Aghast, he states that he can do such thing and she asks him 'what's the worst that could happen?' [[spoiler: Cut to both of them being kicked out the restaurant.]]

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*[[spoiler: DeadAllAlong: The main crux of the story involves Tolkien searching for his friend Geoff on the battlefield. When Tolkien returns home, Edith reveals that he had died two weeks previously.]]



* WarIsHell: Out of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures on the battlefield - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]

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* WarIsHell: Out of Of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures on the battlefield in No Man's Land - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]
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* ForgoneConclusion: Edith tells Tolkien to "not get killed" before embarking on the boat for France. Given that this is a biopic and his works exist today, he obviously survives the war.

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* ForgoneConclusion: ForegoneConclusion: Edith tells Tolkien to "not get killed" before embarking on the boat for France. Given that this is a biopic and his works exist today, he obviously survives the war.
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* ForgoneConclusion: Edith tells Tolkien to "not get killed" before embarking on the boat for France. Given that this is a biopic and his works exist today, he obviously survives.

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* ForgoneConclusion: Edith tells Tolkien to "not get killed" before embarking on the boat for France. Given that this is a biopic and his works exist today, he obviously survives.survives the war.
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* WarIsHell: Out of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures on the battlefield - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]

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* WarIsHell: Out of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures on the battlefield - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]]]

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* BloodyHorror: While Tolkien and his companion are navigating the trenches, they happen upon [[spoiler: a hole in the ground surrounded by corpses. Exhausted, Tolkien collapses in the lake of blood that has pooled in the centre of the crater.]]

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* BloodyHorror: While Tolkien and his companion are navigating the trenches, they happen upon [[spoiler: a hole well in the ground surrounded by corpses. Exhausted, Tolkien collapses in the lake of blood that has pooled in the centre of the crater.]]]]
* ForgoneConclusion: Edith tells Tolkien to "not get killed" before embarking on the boat for France. Given that this is a biopic and his works exist today, he obviously survives.



* PeriodPiece: Takes place during Tolkien's childhood in the early 1900s, particularly focusing on his experiences during World War 1.

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* HandsOffParenting: It's implied by an interaction after the war that Tolkien has been neglecting his family to focus on developing his stories. This changes when he shares them with his wife and sons during a trip to the woods.
* PeriodPiece: Takes place during Tolkien's childhood in the early 1900s, particularly focusing on his experiences during World War 1.1.
* ShellShockedVeteran: [[spoiler: Christopher is the only one of the TCBS other than Tolkien to survive, but he returns home a changed and broken man.]]
*SpotOfTea: The boy's make Brookes' Teahouse their meetup spot.
*WarIsHell: Out of the four boys, [[spoiler: only two return from the war alive. While Tolkien - despite seeing flashes of fantastical creatures on the battlefield - remains a sane man, Christopher returns utterly broken and succumbs to PTSD.]
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* BloodyHorror: While Tolkien and his companion are navigating the trenches, they happen upon [[spoiler: a hole in the ground surrounded by corpses. Exhausted, Tolkien collapses in the lake of blood that has pooled in the centre of the crater.]]
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* GiantFlyer: Tolkien keeps seeing the shadow of a dragon on the battlefield and even [[spoiler: possibly Sauron himself.]]

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* GiantFlyer: Tolkien keeps seeing the shadow of a dragon on the battlefield and even [[spoiler: possibly Sauron himself.]]]]
* PeriodPiece: Takes place during Tolkien's childhood in the early 1900s, particularly focusing on his experiences during World War 1.
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The film stars Nicholas Hoult as '''J.R.R. Tolkein'''.

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