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* TruthSerum: Cheshire interrogates Artemis with one about Damian and Jon on orders from Ra's.
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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with canon!Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched Tim to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]

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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with canon!Tim Rebirth!Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched Tim to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]
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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched canon!Tim Drake to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]

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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim canon!Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched canon!Tim Drake Tim to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]
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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched New52!Tim Drake to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]

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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched New52!Tim canon!Tim Drake to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]
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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson.]]

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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson. For the same reason, he dispatched New52!Tim Drake to Earth-16 to warn them of the threat of the [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Multiverse invasion]].]]
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* WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler:Mr Oz was responsible for the dimensional portal sending Jon and Damian to Earth-16 instead of bringing them home, since he's aware of an impending multiversal threat and really wanted to keep his grandchild away from the danger.]]

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler:Mr Oz was responsible for the dimensional portal sending Jon and Damian to Earth-16 instead of bringing them home, since he's aware of an impending multiversal the threat of [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal the Dark Multiverse invasion]] and really wanted to keep his grandchild away from the danger.]]
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* WhatTheHellHero:[[spoiler:Mr Oz is thoroughly infuriate at Batman for triggering the events of ''ComicBook/DarkKnightsMetal''.]]

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* WhatTheHellHero:[[spoiler:Mr Oz is thoroughly infuriate at Batman for triggering the events of ''ComicBook/DarkKnightsMetal''.''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal''.]]
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* WhatTheHellHero:[[spoiler:Mr Oz is thoroughly infuriate at Batman for triggering the events of ''ComicBook/DarkKnightsMetal''.]]
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** David Cain, full stop. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Talia herself considers him as a horrid father to Cass.]] His former fling Lady Shiva is also this in another way, caring not a whit for her daughter whom she considers a paiment to Cain.

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** David Cain, full stop. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Talia herself considers him as a horrid father to Cass.]] His former fling Lady Shiva is also this in another way, caring not a whit for her daughter whom she considers a paiment payment to Cain.



* TheDreaded: [[spoiler:Mr Oz confesses he ''didn't'' created the prison in which Tim is currently imprisoned, but refuses to name his jailer. With the strong possibility he's talking about Dr Manhattan, he's kinda right to be scared.]]
* DudeNotFunny: After Damian's confession of his counterpart having struggled with alcohol and drugs abuse, Roy jokingly thanks the kid for giving him ideas about the way to deal with his problems. Damian is appaled by his attempt to humor.

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* TheDreaded: [[spoiler:Mr Oz confesses he ''didn't'' created create the prison in which Tim is currently imprisoned, but refuses to name his jailer. With the strong possibility he's talking about Dr Doctor Manhattan, he's kinda he has every right to be scared.]]
* DudeNotFunny: After Damian's confession of his counterpart having struggled with alcohol and drugs abuse, Roy jokingly thanks the kid for giving him ideas about the way to deal with his problems. Damian is appaled appalled by his attempt to humor.



** Mr Oz finds appaling the fact [[spoiler:that Tim constantly sacrified himself and his dreams for Batman when he had his own life to lead.]] When you know his past, his reaction makes sense.

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** Mr Oz finds appaling the fact [[spoiler:that Tim constantly sacrified himself and his dreams for Batman when he had his own life to lead.]] lead]] appalling. When you know his past, his reaction makes sense.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler:Mr Oz was responsible for the dimensional portal sending Jon and Damian to Earth-16 instead of bringing them home, since he's aware of a multiversal threat impending and really wanted to keep his grandchild away from the danger.]]

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* WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler:Mr Oz was responsible for the dimensional portal sending Jon and Damian to Earth-16 instead of bringing them home, since he's aware of a an impending multiversal threat impending and really wanted to keep his grandchild away from the danger.]]

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** David Cain, full stop. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Talia herself considers him as a horrid father to Cass.]]

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** David Cain, full stop. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Talia herself considers him as a horrid father to Cass.]]]] His former fling Lady Shiva is also this in another way, caring not a whit for her daughter whom she considers a paiment to Cain.


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* TheDreaded: [[spoiler:Mr Oz confesses he ''didn't'' created the prison in which Tim is currently imprisoned, but refuses to name his jailer. With the strong possibility he's talking about Dr Manhattan, he's kinda right to be scared.]]
* DudeNotFunny: After Damian's confession of his counterpart having struggled with alcohol and drugs abuse, Roy jokingly thanks the kid for giving him ideas about the way to deal with his problems. Damian is appaled by his attempt to humor.


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** Mr Oz finds appaling the fact [[spoiler:that Tim constantly sacrified himself and his dreams for Batman when he had his own life to lead.]] When you know his past, his reaction makes sense.


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* KnightTemplarParent: [[spoiler:Or rather, ''Grand''parent. Jor-El outright stranded Jon in Earth-16 to protect him from a multiversal apocalypse and his conversation with Tim strongly hints he would have hurt Damian if given enough reason to believe the other boy a threat to his grandson.]]


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* WellIntentionedExtremist: [[spoiler:Mr Oz was responsible for the dimensional portal sending Jon and Damian to Earth-16 instead of bringing them home, since he's aware of a multiversal threat impending and really wanted to keep his grandchild away from the danger.]]
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** [[spoiler:While imprisoned in Mr. Oz' prison dimension, Tim wonders what happened to [[ComicBook/SupemanReborn the one guy that actually managed to escape]].]]

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** [[spoiler:While imprisoned in Mr. Oz' prison dimension, Tim wonders what happened to [[ComicBook/SupemanReborn [[ComicBook/SupermanReborn the one guy that actually managed to escape]].]]
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** [[spoiler:While imprisoned in Mr. Oz' prison dimension, Tim wonders what happened to [[ComicBook/SupemanReborn the one guy that actually managed to escape]].]]
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* MissingMom: Lady Shiva for Cass. Talia tells Bruce not to worry, though - she's pretty much uninterested in her daughter.
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Damian has a brief moment of pain when he thinks of his world's Tim Drake, who was killed so horribly he didn't even leave a body behind. [[spoiler:Some chapters later, it turns out that, per ComicBook/DCRebirth canon, he's actually kept hostage by Mr. Oz.]]
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* TheAgeless: [[spoiler:Conner's genetic makeup, though similar to Jon's, is definitely different. Due to being released from the pod before his development was complete, his aging has been permanently arrested.]]
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* TooDumbToLive: David Cain. Sure, his methods created a virtually superhuman fighter... who's completely useless as an assassin because she can't understand the first thing about social customs, making her extremely noticeable. Talia calls her a blunt instrument when she needs a surgeon's scalpel.
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* PragmaticVillainy: Talia feels David Cain's TrainingFromHell is good as long as you only need a bludgeon to make your problem disappear, and helps Cass to learn how to speak to broaden her potential. Added bonus, it will piss David as hell.

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* AbledInTheAdaptation: Because of Talia's tutelage, Cass can grasp language much earlier than her teens. She still struggles a lot, but the League's resident medic is confident in his prognostic about her recovery.



** David Cain, full stop. [[EvenEvilHasStandards Talia herself considers him as a horrid father to Cass.]]



* SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong: Damian's arrival made Batman aware of the potential for a child of his being raised by the League of Shadows, and it led to baby Damian and young Cassandra being entrusted to Bruce Wayne's care ''much earlier'' than canon, so they get a shot to some kind of childhood.



** When Batman asks to know who Damian's mother is, the kid merely removes his domino mask to show him the GreenEyes and dark skin from Talia.

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** When Batman asks to know who Damian's mother is, the kid merely removes his domino mask to show him the GreenEyes and dark skin from Talia. On the other hand, Alfred thinks the boy is very much his father's younger carbon copy.
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* AtrociousAlias: When Damian briefly picks the codename "Red Robin", Dick ([[DramaticIrony and later a preteen Tim Drake]]) tease him for calling himself after a burger joint.


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* CheerfulChild: Oh, Jon. His unrelenting peppiness actually manages to make Conner and Superman closer.


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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: For all his abrasiveness and ill temper, Damian has a very deep ability to love and is fearless when it comes about protecting those he cares for -- very much his father's son, when thinking about it.


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** Since Damian and Dick can't be both Robin in costume, Damian opts to call himself Red Robin.


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* PetTheDog:
** When Alfred declines to eat with the family because he's only the butler, a stunned Damian immediately protests he's so much more than a servant. The whole batfam was touched by the outburst.
** Damian also couldn't bring himself to tell Jon that [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs one version of Superman]] went bad after his AccidentalMurder of Lois Lane while she was pregnant with Jon's counterpart.


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* TomatoInTheMirror:
** Roy doesn't take well the reveal that he was brainwashed to serve as a mole for the Light, and he takes even worse the reveal that he's a clone.
** Conner never thought his medical exam would show his genetic makeup is the same as Jon's - [[HalfHumanHybrid fifty percent kryptonian, fifty percent human]].


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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: To force Damian to come with her, Talia grabbed preteen Tim Drake (who wanted to take pictures from the "Robin copycat") and threatened to kill or abduct him to train him as a child assassin. Damian surrenders his freedom because he doesn't think Tim would be strong enough to endure the League's training.

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* BigBrotherInstinct:
** Interestingly played with Damian. He's supposed to be [[TheBabyOfTheBunch the Baby of the Bat-Bunch]], but interdimensional hopping shenanigans means he's the same age or older than his siblings. Still, he shows himself hellishly protective of them, letting Talia kidnap him as long as she lets a young Tim Drake go free, almost killing David Cain for being an abusive fuck towards Cassandra and setting himself to be retraumatized by his worst memory to stop Dick from reliving his.
** Jon was so livid to learn his best friend's mother actually betrayed him to his death, he triggered a Solar Flare.



* DangerousForbiddenTechnique:
** The Memory Bomb needs for a telepath to pluck your worst memory from your head and beam it to everyone in range. Not surprinsingly, the Martians outlawed its use because it was quite the ethics nightmare.
** A Kryptonian's Solar Flare could be extremely lethal if unleashed in a populated area. And it's really exhausting for the wielder.



* NotSoDifferent:
** Damian sympathizes with Conner due to his world's Batman having a similar reaction to him in the same way Earth!16 Superman reacted to his clone.

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NotSoDifferent: Damian sympathizes with Conner due to his world's Batman having a similar reaction to him in the same way Earth!16 Superman reacted to his clone.



* StrongFamilyResemblance:
** When Batman asks to know who Damian's mother is, the kid merely removes his domino mask to show him the GreenEyes and dark skin from Talia.
** When they find a preteen and teen copies of their son on their doorstep, the Kents are befuddled because grandchildren normally start as babies, you know?
* TokenGoodTeammate: Ravi is a very affable, polite middle-aged gentleman who happens to work for the League of Shadows.



* VitriolicBestBuds: Damian and Jon are constantly squabbling.

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* VitriolicBestBuds: Damian and Jon are constantly squabbling.squabbling.
* YourApprovalFillsMeWithShame: After seeing Damian's memory of his mother betraying him to his death, Ra's admires how ''ruthless'' his daughter was. Talia is stunned by his heartlessness and [[YouMonster calls him a monster]], which prompts him to retort: "[[InsultBackfire Oh, that's NOW you realized this?]]".

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!Contains the following tropes.

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!Contains !!Multiversal Constants contains the following tropes.tropes:



* HalfHumanHybrid: Jon and Conner. If the younger boy was already aware of this, the teen was very much taken aback by the results of his medical exam.

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* HalfHumanHybrid: Jon and Conner. If the younger boy was already aware of this, the teen was very much taken aback by the results of his medical exam. Though they are different in some regards, since Jon has all his Kryptonian abilities due to being a natural born hybrid while Conner has fewer abilities and is more limited.



* KidFromTheFuture: And from another universe... Downplayed for Damian whose counterpart from Earth-16 is already one year old.

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* KidFromTheFuture: And from another universe... Downplayed downplayed for Damian whose counterpart from Earth-16 is already one year old.


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* NotSoDifferent:
** Damian sympathizes with Conner due to his world's Batman having a similar reaction to him in the same way Earth!16 Superman reacted to his clone.

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* HeroWorshipper: Being a ten year old boy, Jon naturally thinks the world about his dad, so much that he cannot wrap his head around him neglecting Conner because Superman ''always'' does the right thing. It always leads him to dismiss [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongstUs the Injustice world]] as a mean-spirited prank from Damian, because Superman would never kill someone.

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* HalfHumanHybrid: Jon and Conner. If the younger boy was already aware of this, the teen was very much taken aback by the results of his medical exam.
* HeroWorshipper: Being a ten year old boy, Jon naturally thinks the world about his dad, so much that he cannot wrap his head around him neglecting Conner because Superman ''always'' does the right thing. It always also leads him to dismiss [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongstUs [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs the Injustice world]] as a mean-spirited prank from Damian, because Superman would never kill someone.someone.
* IWantMyMommy: A pained Jon about to release a Solar Flare desperately cries for his dad to help him. Superman hears him from the North Pole and immediately comes, only to be knocked out by the deflagration.



** When discussing alternate dimensions with his grandparents, Jon made a reference to a universe in which [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Superman's rocket crashed into the Soviet Union]]. He later remembers another opportunity in which [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongstUs the Justice League travelled to a universe with a evil Superman]].

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** When discussing alternate dimensions with his grandparents, Jon made a reference to a universe in which [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Superman's rocket crashed into the Soviet Union]]. He later remembers another opportunity in which [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongstUs [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs the Justice League travelled to a universe with a evil Superman]].


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* UnfazedEveryman: The Kents have shades of this. It takes a special kind of mindframe to adopt the alien baby who just landed into your cornfield.
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* AbusiveParents: Even LighterAndSofter, Talia won't be awarded the distinction for "Mother of the Year". WordOfGod said she was this way because [[TroubledAbuser she was raised according the same methods]], which is a sad TruthInTelevision.



* BrainBleach: Damian's reaction when he learns Dick crushes on Zatanna. In his world, Zatanna is from his dad's generation, so he finds ''very'' squicky the idea of his brother dating one of his father's exes.



* EvilIsPetty: Lex Luthor whooped when he saw Superman knocked out from the sky by an explosion.



* FailureKnight: How Dick comes to see Nightwing after learning more about Damian's universe, since big brothers are supposed to protect their siblings and Nightwing was unable to do so.



* HeroWorshipper: Being a ten year old boy, Jon naturally thinks the world about his dad, so much that he cannot wrap his head around him neglecting Conner because Superman ''always'' does the right thing. It always leads him to dismiss [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongstUs the Injustice world]] as a mean-spirited prank from Damian, because Superman would never kill someone.



* LooseLips: One of the tags for the story actually is "Jon has no filters". You are warned, people!



** When discussing alternate dimensions with his grandparents, Jon made a reference to a universe in which [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Superman's rocket crashed into the Soviet Union]]. He later remembers another opportunity in which the Justice League travelled to a universe with a evil Superman.

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** When discussing alternate dimensions with his grandparents, Jon made a reference to a universe in which [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Superman's rocket crashed into the Soviet Union]]. He later remembers another opportunity in which [[VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongstUs the Justice League travelled to a universe with a evil Superman.Superman]].



* ShipperOnDeck: To Jon, the One True Pairing ever is Lois Lane and Superman. Well, they ''are'' his parents...

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* ShipperOnDeck: To Jon, the One True Pairing ever is Lois Lane and Superman. Well, they ''are'' his parents...parents...
* VillainTakesAnInterest: Ra's al Ghul and Lex Luthor immediately decide to learn more about the extradimensional travellers with the reveal of their identities (the Dark Knight's offspring and a naturally born half-kryptonian).
* VitriolicBestBuds: Damian and Jon are constantly squabbling.
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* BewilderingPunishment:
** Talia is extremely confused by her teenaged son's mistrust and hate towards her. It takes a peek into his memories for her to understand how justified he is in his feelings.
** The whole League of Shadows was floored when Damian started beating seven shades of crap out of David Cain. Cassandra was the most surprised of all, since her CombatClairvoyance let her see he was doing that out of love for her.



* EvilMeScaresMe/FutureMeScaresMe: Because Damian and Jon's timeline avanced more quickly...

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* EvilMeScaresMe/FutureMeScaresMe: EvenEvilHasStandards: For all her screwed-up ideas about education, Talia finds [[TrainingFromHell the way David Cain raised Cassandra]] utterly repugnant.
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* MoralityPet: When he meets Earth-16!Alfred, Damian has to remind himself this is not his world and as such, he cannot hug the butler. He's also unusually courteous towards Ravi, mainly because of [[MyGreatestFailure their common past in his world.]]
** Cassandra Cain was taken under Talia's wing while she still was with the League. Poor girl kinda needed it.
* MythologyGag:
** When discussing alternate dimensions with his grandparents, Jon made a reference to a universe in which [[ComicBook/SupermanRedSon Superman's rocket crashed into the Soviet Union]]. He later remembers another opportunity in which the Justice League travelled to a universe with a evil Superman.
** Artemis teases her sister about her crush by asking her to name her firstborn daughter after her... at least the middle name, which is ''Lian''.


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* SecretSecretKeeper: When Clark finally confesses his SecretIdentity to Lois, she already knew because he was always running away when there was wrongs to correct. She just decided to wait until he was ready to tell her the truth.
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* DatingCatwoman: Roy and Cheshire are still dancing around each other, but EveryoneCanSeeIt.
* EvilMeScaresMe/FutureMeScaresMe: Because Damian and Jon's timeline avanced more quickly...
** Batman actually isn't a bonafide villain, but his ParentalNeglect and unability to protect his kids horrifies Earth-16!Bruce, who's rather less jaded and centered on his crusade against the criminals.
** When Talia gets to look within Damian's memory, she really doesn't take it well when she sees the potential for her to grow so callous she would willingly murder her own child.
* {{Foil}}:
** Jon and Conner, both HalfHumanHybrid owing their conception to Superman, have ''very'' distinctive relationships with the Man of Steel. While Clark struggles to accept Conner whom he basically sees as a ChildByRape, he favors much more Jon, the living embodiment of a future in which he got to marry the love of his life and settle with her.
** Alfred and Ravi are older caretakers to Damian and serve as his MoralityPet. However, Ravi is affiliated to the League of Shadows and not as snarky.



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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14344743/chapters/33107610 Multiversal Constants]]'' is a crossover fic between ''ComicBook/SuperSons'' and ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice'', written by Echoes 01 and hosted on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.

Right after defeating the living planet Yggardis, Damian Wayne and Jon Kent would really like to go home before their parents learn of their impromptu escapade and ground them for life. Unfortunately, the wizard Kraklow made a mistake when he tried to send them back and instead stranded the boys in a universe in which Robin is still Dick Grayson and Superboy an angry clone with parental issues galore.

Oh, and the Light is growing ''interested'' in them. As if they didn't have ''enough'' on their plate.

!Contains the following tropes.
* AdultFear: Damian is basically the walking embodiment of this to Batman. Not only he constantly lets slip hints that ''his'' Bruce very much failed him as a father, his mother's counterpart decides to abduct him.
* BigBrotherWorship: Jon's reaction to Conner, whom the boy outright calls awesome. The teen starts a bit flat-footed over it but quickly grows to enjoy being a CoolBigBro.
* GreenEyedMonster: When confronted to the fact that his adoptive dad may have a biological child somewhere, Dick immediately suffers a bout of insecurity, feeling that Bruce won't love him as much with his "true" son at home, and behaves as a jerk towards Damian as a consequence. Artemis don't waste time calling him out.
* KidFromTheFuture: And from another universe... Downplayed for Damian whose counterpart from Earth-16 is already one year old.
* LukeYouAreMyFather: Double whammy for Superman and Batman.
* ParentalFavoritism
* ShipperOnDeck: To Jon, the One True Pairing ever is Lois Lane and Superman. Well, they ''are'' his parents...

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