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*** Martial Panda, while obviously a nod to ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'', is also one to [[Series/KamenRiderBuild the Press Smash]]. Likewise, Formula Rex is based off the unused Best Match, [=F1Saurus=].

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*** Martial Panda, while obviously a nod to ''WesternAnimation/KungFuPanda'', ''Franchise/KungFuPanda'', is also one to [[Series/KamenRiderBuild the Press Smash]]. Likewise, Formula Rex is based off the unused Best Match, [=F1Saurus=].
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** '''Bargaining:''' He discusses with Alicetaria about how he would have fought with her and the other Creations, even saying how he would want God to revive Setsuna if he was able to. Briefly before the end of Cinder Road, Hoshi started to seek other people to take the Volcano Belt from him, including Shindou and Alicetaria. Even thanking Kikuchihara for confiscating the belt. Though, he gets out of it once [[spoiler:the belt is destroyed and Honoka's injury prompts him to fight Re:Shocker]].

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** '''Bargaining:''' He discusses with Alicetaria about how he would have fought with her and the other Creations, even saying how he would want God to revive Setsuna if he was able to. Briefly before the end of Cinder Road, Hoshi started to seek other people to take the Volcano Belt from him, including Shindou and Alicetaria. Even thanking Kikuchihara for confiscating the belt. Though, he gets out of it once [[spoiler:the belt is destroyed and Honoka's injury prompts him to fight Re:Shocker]]. That said, a more lingering and accurate stage of Bargaining comes in the form of Hoshi [[spoiler:being a full blown DeathSeeker born out of being TheAtoner]].
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** It's CommonKnowledge that Kamen Riders fight for justice [[note]]In reality, they often fought for peace and/or freedom, something that's been pointed out several times, especially in ''Series/KamenRiderRevice'' where they become diametrically opposed sides[[/note]], with Dante taking it to its literal conclusion. Hotaro (and [[SelfInsertFic by extension]], Hoshi), is marked as an ally of justice, but it's later revealed that this brand of justice is {{revenge}} against Re:Shocker. Remembering what he based Re:Shocker on caused Hoshi to rethink on what exactly his version of justice meant. Meanwhile, Alicetaria's meaning of justice blurs so much that her own creator implied he wanted to quit because of it.


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** While Hoshi abandons his ideals of justice in favor of protecting everyone he can, Alicetaria and Takarada reconstruct the ideals of justice as she confesses that she became disillusioned with fighting an endless war and seeing him as the easy way out, with her fight with Meteora being her HeelRealization. Vice versa for Takarada becoming disillusioned with his old cynical views of justice and adopting a more idealistic version if it.
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* TakeThat: Matsubara, as he's telling Tachibana why having Meteora spam her newly obtained ressurection powers wouldn't work, he says that it's not ''Franchise/DragonBall''.

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* TakeThat: Matsubara, as he's telling Tachibana why having Meteora spam her newly obtained ressurection powers wouldn't work, he says that it's not ''Franchise/DragonBall''.
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** Chapter 25, after going through not just a HeelFaceTurn arc for Yuichi but also a BigBadassBattleSequence in Shibuya, allows some of the cast to relax at a hot springs inn. [[SubvertedTrope However,]] the only thing preventing the ''reader'' from feeling at ease is [[spoiler:the DramaticIrony that one of the main villains is the one who set up said stay in the first place and that Yudai is revealed to not only be alive, but impersonating Souta]].

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** Chapter 25, after going through not just a HeelFaceTurn arc for Yuichi but also a BigBadassBattleSequence in Shibuya, allows some of the cast to relax at a hot springs inn. [[SubvertedTrope However,]] the only thing preventing the ''reader'' from feeling at ease is [[spoiler:the DramaticIrony that one of the main villains is the one who set up said stay in the first place and that Yudai is revealed to not only be alive, but impersonating Souta]]. And sure enough, [[spoiler:the next chapter after that gives us one of the darkest in the story]].
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** While the anime briefly skimmed the plot of all the stories that were involved, Cinder Road expands and explains more details about those worlds, such as how Yuuya obtained Hangaku or how Vogelchavlier was really an isekai anime with Charon being the protagonist. This also extends to the Creators as well, who range from having additonal thoughts on their situation to having entire backstories.

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** While the anime briefly skimmed the plot of all the stories that were involved, Cinder Road expands and explains more details about those worlds, such as how Yuuya obtained Hangaku or how Vogelchavlier was really an isekai anime with Charon being the protagonist.protagonist, even going as far as to expand on characters within those worlds who go on to be their own characters (i.e. Melt). This also extends to the Creators as well, who range from having additonal thoughts on their situation to having entire backstories.
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** Magane's RealityWarper ability gets played up more in this story and showing how exactly she can be a threat [[ManipulativeBastard without ever lifting a finger to fight]]. The fact that she [[spoiler:uses [[GuardianEntity Hangaku]] in the story whereas in the original, she doesn't]], makes her more of a badass.

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** Magane's RealityWarper ability gets played up more in this story and showing how exactly she can be a threat [[ManipulativeBastard without ever lifting a finger to fight]]. The fact that she [[spoiler:uses [[GuardianEntity Hangaku]] in the story whereas in the original, she doesn't]], makes her more of a badass. If we take the crossover with Edge of Time into consideration, she not only manages to manipulate Joffrey into [[spoiler:retconning his own actions]], but also utilizes a lie she told him as a ChekhovsGun [[spoiler:to merge Souta with Yudai]].
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*** Docro sounds close to “dokuro” or skull in Japanese. Skulls often being a symbol of poison. It also has crow in the name.

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*** Docro sounds close to “dokuro” or skull in Japanese. Skulls often being a symbol of poison. It also has crow in the name.name, befitting of the crow-like PlagueDoctor motif he has.
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%% Toranity's song is [[Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba Gurenge]], with the chorus lyrics pointing to how, despite having [[TheAtoner past mistakes that can't be erased]] and [[HurtingHero a future that can't be escaped]], Hoshi, for the sake of protecting others, must [[NextTierPowerUp become stronger]], something that Toranity accomplishes.

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%% Toranity's song is [[Manga/DemonSlayerKimetsuNoYaiba Gurenge]], with the chorus lyrics pointing to how, despite having [[TheAtoner past mistakes that can't be erased]] and [[HurtingHero a future that can't be escaped]], escaped, Hoshi, for the sake of protecting others, must [[NextTierPowerUp become stronger]], something that Toranity accomplishes.
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** Chapter 26 (which is coincedentally the [[ThirteenIsUnlucky 13th chapter]] of the Cinder Fall saga) has [[spoiler:Yudai give a CurbstompBattle to Hoshi as he turns Honoka and Marine into mindless Kaizo-Majin, makes a third one that kills Shindou, and breaks and nearly kills Hoshi were it not for Magane using her Infinite Deception to fuse Souta and Yudai together. Then there's Tachibana finding out that Shimashima is his father, who then cuts his ties with the group and fully cementing his discarding of the identity]].

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** Chapter 26 (which is coincedentally the [[ThirteenIsUnlucky 13th chapter]] chapter of the Cinder Fall saga) has [[spoiler:Yudai give a CurbstompBattle to Hoshi as he turns Honoka and Marine into mindless Kaizo-Majin, makes a third one that kills Shindou, and breaks and nearly kills Hoshi were it not for Magane using her Infinite Deception to fuse Souta and Yudai together. Then there's Tachibana finding out that Shimashima is his father, who then cuts his ties with the group and fully cementing his discarding of the identity]].
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** Hikayu has a case where she becomes a badass much earlier than in the show, as midway through the fanfic, she obtains the powers of Magical Slayer Mamika.

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** Hikayu has a case where she becomes a badass much earlier than in the show, as midway through the fanfic, she learns how to box and obtains the powers of Magical Slayer Mamika.
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* AdaptationalWimp: {{Downplayed}} and {{Justified}}. While Altair was able to beat and almost kill Hoshi in one fight, Alicetaria surprised her InTheBack and Hoshi took this to his advantage, turning the tables on her and almost killing her himself. She could have also brought the fight to an end earlier had Hoshi not knocked the [[StoryBreakerPower Holopsicon]] from her hands.

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* AdaptationalWimp: {{Downplayed}} and {{Justified}}.{{Justified|Trope}}. While Altair was able to beat and almost kill Hoshi in one fight, Alicetaria surprised her InTheBack and Hoshi took this to his advantage, turning the tables on her and almost killing her himself. She could have also brought the fight to an end earlier had Hoshi not knocked the [[StoryBreakerPower Holopsicon]] from her hands.



* ForgottenFirstMeeting: {{Downplayed}} and {{Justified}}. Hoshi meets up with Setsuna and Souta long before the incident that led to Setsuna’s suicide, but only remembers meeting up with Setsuna and needing a MindRape to remember Souta was there too. Souta, however, remembers Hoshi. It’s justified as it was the only in-person meeting Hoshi had with the duo.

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* ForgottenFirstMeeting: {{Downplayed}} and {{Justified}}.{{Justified|Trope}}. Hoshi meets up with Setsuna and Souta long before the incident that led to Setsuna’s suicide, but only remembers meeting up with Setsuna and needing a MindRape to remember Souta was there too. Souta, however, remembers Hoshi. It’s justified as it was the only in-person meeting Hoshi had with the duo.



* RedemptionDemotion: {{Downplayed}} and {{justified}}. The moment Yuichi joined the heroes, he began to feel the after effects of the PhlebotinumBreakdown, began to lessen his use of the [[HealingShiv Doc Blade]], and overall became more hesitant to fight. The justications come in with the facts that: it being a natural occurance thanks to how the Re:Shocker belts work, he found that repeated use of the Doc Blade would hasten the Great Destruction, and he realized just how much of an executioner he had become.

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* RedemptionDemotion: {{Downplayed}} and {{justified}}.{{justified|trope}}. The moment Yuichi joined the heroes, he began to feel the after effects of the PhlebotinumBreakdown, began to lessen his use of the [[HealingShiv Doc Blade]], and overall became more hesitant to fight. The justications come in with the facts that: it being a natural occurance thanks to how the Re:Shocker belts work, he found that repeated use of the Doc Blade would hasten the Great Destruction, and he realized just how much of an executioner he had become.
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** Similarly, the plot to Chapter 25 is [[WholePlotReference similar to the plot]] from another Kamen Rider's episode: [[spoiler:[[Series/KamenRiderRevice Revice]], namely #8, where an evil version of one of the main characters impersonates them in a plot to kill the main Rider]].

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** Similarly, the plot to Chapter 25 is [[WholePlotReference similar to the plot]] from another Kamen Rider's episode: [[spoiler:[[Series/KamenRiderRevice Revice]], namely #8, where an evil version of one of the main characters impersonates them in a plot to kill the main Rider]].Rider at an onsen resort]].
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** Chapters 17-22: [[SurvivorsGuilt Dan Izumi]].

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** Chapters 17-22: [[SurvivorsGuilt Dan Izumi]].Izumi]] & [[TheSixthRanger Yuichi]].
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* ArcHero: Interestingly, throughout the fanfic, Hoshi has partnered up with another person and undergoes a development with them.
** Chapters 2-3: [[EnemyMine Blitz]].
** Chapters 4-5: [[KnightTemplar Alicetaria]] & [[MagicalGirl Mamika]].
** Chapters 6-11: [[TeamMom Marine]].
** Chapters 12-13: [[CoolBigSis Honoka]].
** Chapters 14-16: [[NiceGirl Hikayu]].
** Chapters 17-22: [[SurvivorsGuilt Dan Izumi]].
** Chapters 23-??: [[{{Deuteragonist}} Souta]].

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