Follow TV Tropes

Following

History FanFic / WingsToFly

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* CurbStompBattle: First Mars. The Outer Colonies were not prepared for the capabilities of ''Intrepid'' and their losses before contact meant they really had no way to win. This does not make life much easier on the main characters though, who aren't part of the spaceside battle and have to intercept people coming into the atmosphere.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MacrossMissileMassacre: Inflicted a few times; Trowa directs his squadron to use 288 missiles against only five Gundam targets at X-18722.
** More often averted, however; missiles are usually conserved because they let pilots dig themselves out of trouble by either quickly evening long odds, or forcing enemies to worry about defending themselves rather than attacking.
** A main character who salvos all their missiles at once is usually doing it because they want to jettison their missile racks; losing the extra weight and drag improves maneuverability.

Added: 193

Changed: 17

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The standard rifle of a Super Leo, common to the colonial militias, cannot penetrate the armor of a Gundam. Their 203mm [[ShoulderCannon shoulder-mounted guns]] ''can'', as a Deathscythe Guilty discovers when a squadron of Super Leos blows its reactor and cockpit out its back. In small pieces.

to:

** The standard rifle of a Super Leo, common to the colonial militias, cannot penetrate the armor of a Gundam. Their 203mm [[ShoulderCannon shoulder-mounted guns]] ''can'', as a Deathscythe Guilty discovers when a squadron of Super Leos blows its reactor and cockpit out its back. In small pieces.back.
** Outer Colonies Gundams are in fact Gundams, but have such thin armor that they're easily penetrated by most standard weapons; they rely entirely on their mobility and Zero System to survive.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BadassNormal: The unnamed pilot last survivor of the Io Militia Taurus squadron. Sixteen suits go into Mars' atmosphere; thirteen of them die before they can even defend themselves. Two more are killed seconds after they're able to maneuver. The lone remaining pilot manages to stand off Noin and her wing, trading fire with them on nearly even terms. Even when two more of Noin's squadron joins the fight, they manage to survive and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm make a run for it]] after a pair of Outer Colonies Gundams join the fight.

to:

* BadassNormal: The unnamed pilot last survivor of the Io Militia Taurus squadron. Sixteen suits go into Mars' atmosphere; thirteen of them die before they can even defend themselves. Two more are killed seconds after they're able to maneuver. The lone remaining pilot manages to stand off Noin and her wing, trading fire with them on nearly even terms. Even when two more of Noin's squadron joins the fight, they manage to survive and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm make a run for it]] after a pair of Outer Colonies Gundams join the fight.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BeingEvilSucks: Zechs certainly seems to think so, but retroactively; he's trying to be good again. Mostly...

to:

* BeingEvilSucks: Zechs certainly seems to think so, but retroactively; he's trying at the same time he defected to be good again. Mostly...the Outer Colonies because of ReformedButRejected.



* {{Expy}}: [[MahouSensiNegima Chao Lingshen]] is a pilot in the Mars Colonial Militia.

to:

* {{Expy}}: [[MahouSensiNegima [[MahouSenseiNegima Chao Lingshen]] is a pilot in the Mars Colonial Militia.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BadassNormal: The unnamed pilot last survivor of the Io Militia Taurus squadron. Sixteen suits go into Mars' atmosphere; thirteen of them die before they can even defend themselves. Two more are killed seconds after they're able to maneuver. The lone remaining pilot manages to stand off Noin and her wing, trading fire with them on nearly even terms. Even when two more of Noin's squadron joins the fight, they manage to survive and [[KnowWhenToFoldEm make a run for it]] after a pair of Outer Colonies Gundams join the fight.


Added DiffLines:

* {{Expy}}: [[MahouSensiNegima Chao Lingshen]] is a pilot in the Mars Colonial Militia.
** The Outer Colonies Gundams ([[WordOfGod Type Zero]]) are basically the Victory Gundam with Wing Zero's wings and a reduced-scale Twin Buster Rifle.

Changed: 295

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BayonetYa: The standard Preventer Taurus beam rifle includes a bayonet lug for one of the suit's beamsabers. It's treated as an emergency weapon, giving a pilot a chance to parry or counterattack while they draw their own beamsaber.

to:

* BayonetYa: The standard Preventer Taurus beam rifle includes a bayonet lug for one of the suit's beamsabers. It's treated It was intended as an emergency defensive weapon, giving to allow a pilot a chance to hold an enemy at bay with a quick parry or counterattack thrust while they draw their own beamsaber.drew a beamsaber to counterattack. Ironically, ex-Alliance pilots tend to regard the bayonet as the primary close-combat weapon over conventional beamsabers.



** Richard Dyer's Taurus is painted in a single-color flat grey, different from the standard Preventer grey; it's stated the paint is Alliance lunar camouflage, meaning that like Noin his suit counts as having a custom paint job because the entity it's ''standard'' to is defunct.

to:

** Richard Dyer's Taurus is painted in a single-color flat grey, different from the standard Preventer grey; grey-and-white; it's stated the paint is Alliance lunar camouflage, meaning that like Noin his suit counts as having a custom paint job because the entity it's ''standard'' to is defunct.



* ReallySeventeenYearsOld: Noin lied about her age to join up and has been on active-duty service since sometime in her early teens, which is why she's a squadron commander at twenty-two. She implies that this was actually very common to her generation and thinks it likely at least one other member of SMS 22 did it as well. Hilde Schebeiker also lied about her age to get her slot in the OZ Colonial Militia during the actual GundamWing series. Contrast this with Duo and Hilde: ''everyone knows'' they are actually seventeen in the story's present, but it's treated as a non-issue because both proved able to fly combat when they were fifteen.

to:

* ReallySeventeenYearsOld: Noin lied about her age to join up and has been on active-duty service since sometime in her early teens, which is why she's a squadron commander at twenty-two. She implies that this was actually very common to her generation and thinks it likely at least one other member of SMS 22 did it as well.generation. Hilde Schebeiker also lied about her age to get her slot in the OZ Colonial Militia during the actual GundamWing series. Contrast this with Duo and Hilde: ''everyone knows'' they are actually seventeen in the story's present, but it's treated as a non-issue because both proved able to fly combat when they were fifteen.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** The wing pair dynamic is one of the central themes of the story, as a deliberate contrast to the solitary nature of combat for those who use Gundams: the two pilots of a wing pair depend on each other totally and form close bounds. A wing pair is responsible for each other in ways that allow a lesser-ranked wing to address a senior lead in ways that might otherwise be impertinent or even insubordinate from someone else.

to:

** The wing pair dynamic is one of the central themes of the story, as a deliberate contrast to the solitary nature of combat for those who use Gundams: the two pilots of a wing pair depend on each other totally and form close bounds. A wing pair is responsible for each other in ways such that allow it allows a lesser-ranked wing to address a senior lead in ways that might otherwise be impertinent or even insubordinate from someone else.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* WingMan: Forsythe to Noin, performing the traditional duty of pouncing on anyone foolish enough to attack her lead. Among other things.

to:

* WingMan: Forsythe to Noin, performing the traditional duty of pouncing on anyone foolish enough to attack her lead. Among other things.things.
** The wing pair dynamic is one of the central themes of the story, as a deliberate contrast to the solitary nature of combat for those who use Gundams: the two pilots of a wing pair depend on each other totally and form close bounds. A wing pair is responsible for each other in ways that allow a lesser-ranked wing to address a senior lead in ways that might otherwise be impertinent or even insubordinate from someone else.
*** [[WordOfGod The author stated his mental model of how an established wing pair should sound speaking to each other is like they're a married couple.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added: 209

Changed: 280

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BeingEvilSucks: Zechs certainly seems to think so, but retroactively.

to:

* BeingEvilSucks: Zechs certainly seems to think so, but retroactively.retroactively; he's trying to be good again. Mostly...



** Richard Dyer's Taurus is painted in a single-color flat grey, different from the standard Preventer grey; it's implied the paint is Alliance lunar camouflage, meaning that like Noin his suit counts as having a custom paint job because the entity it's ''standard'' to is defunct.

to:

** Richard Dyer's Taurus is painted in a single-color flat grey, different from the standard Preventer grey; it's implied stated the paint is Alliance lunar camouflage, meaning that like Noin his suit counts as having a custom paint job because the entity it's ''standard'' to is defunct.



** Dyer has shades of this towards Noin at first; OZ killed nearly his entire extended family during Operation Daybreak.

to:

** Dyer has shades of this towards Noin at first; OZ killed nearly his entire extended family during Operation Daybreak. He revises his opinion of Noin at some point during or before ''On Burner''.



* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Noin's father is the Duke of Aosta, and though he corrects someone for using the title as the family has not in about a hundred years, they point out that he still nominally retains his position as a Prince of the House of Savoy (the Italian royal family). Depending on possible siblings and succession laws, Noin may be the Duchess of Apulia or hold a lesser family title.

to:

* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Noin's father is the Duke of Aosta, and though he corrects someone for using the title as the family has not in about a hundred years, they point out that he still nominally retains his position as a Prince of the House of Savoy (the Italian royal family). Depending on possible siblings and succession laws, Noin may be herself is the Duchess of Apulia or hold a lesser family title.as his eldest child, and self-describes as "third backup for the King".


Added DiffLines:

** At more than one point, it's implied that everyone who was actually present for the Eve Wars (and possibly every human who was alive on Christmas Eve AC 195) has nightmares about the ''Libra'' drop attempt.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* HadToBeSharp: Any pilot who fought in the Eve Wars and survived is looked at differently by their peers.

to:

* HadToBeSharp: Any pilot Pilots who fought in the Eve Wars mobile dolls and survived is won are looked at differently by their peers.peers, particularly those who fought Virgo dolls. This primarily has to do with the near-perfect gunnery of mobile dolls, and in the case of the Virgos the need to somehow decoy them into pointing their shield the wrong way.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TakeThat: Lady Une, of all people, thinks Trieze was a bit of a shit for choosing to die rather than lending his considerable weight to building the new world he wanted. The concept of a war to end all wars is also described as unrealistic by different characters a number of times.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Both Noin and Focht have to ask what the expression "string someone up" means.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AGoodWayToDie: Dyer's mother, who died fighting off an Aries raid on her carrier group on day five of Operation Daybreak. When Noin points out the practice of wearing a gun in the cockpit wasn't lucky for her, Dyer responds that making ace inside five minutes and successfully saving the battlegroup isn't a failure, regardless of whether you live through it.

to:

* AGoodWayToDie: Dyer's mother, who died fighting off an Aries raid on her carrier group on day five of Operation Daybreak. When Noin points out the practice of wearing a gun in the cockpit wasn't lucky for her, Dyer responds that making ace inside five minutes and successfully saving the battlegroup isn't a failure, regardless of whether you live through it.failure.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* HadToBeSharp: Any pilot who fought in the Eve Wars and survived is looked at differently by their peers.
** Survive combat against a suit with Zero System and you are considered a rare breed of pilot indeed.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: When forced to fight Gundams in ''On Burner'' this is the response of most of the pilots involved. Trowa Barton designates five targets for the 288 missiles his squadron launches in their opening volley, while The L2 Colonial Defense Force's Squadron Four volley-fires all their weapons into a single Gundam. Things actually ''tone down'' in close combat and the kills get generally more surgical.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* BiTheWay: Forsythe, apparently, given the fact she's both hit on Noin and had fling with Dyer in the past.

to:

* BiTheWay: Forsythe, apparently, given the fact she's both hit on Noin and had a fling with Dyer in the past.



* DueToTheDead: The squadron's "anthem" is a version of The Revel, usually (incorrectly) credited to Bartholomew Dowling.

to:

* DueToTheDead: The squadron's "anthem" is a version of The Revel, usually (incorrectly) credited to Bartholomew Dowling. The refrain of the song is "One cup to the dead already, and hurrah to the next one who dies."



** Noin's Taurus still wears the colors it had in Sanq Kingdom service, which manage to ''retroactively'' count as a flashy paint job.

to:

** Noin's Taurus still wears the colors it had in Sanq Kingdom service, which manage to ''retroactively'' count as a flashy paint job.job since no other existing mobile suit is painted in Sanq colors.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ArmorIsUseless: Averted from the original; an Aries 90mm chaingun can't penetrate most of the armor on a Preventer Taurus. At the same time played straighter than the original as well: certain parts of a Gundam can be penetrated with standard Preventer weapons, but they prefer to arm themselves with either highly focused lasers or heavy beam rifles that have better armor-piercing

to:

* ArmorIsUseless: Averted from the original; an Aries 90mm chaingun can't penetrate most of the armor on a Preventer Taurus. At the same time played straighter than the original as well: certain parts of a Gundam can be penetrated with standard Preventer weapons, but they prefer to arm themselves with either highly focused lasers or heavy beam rifles that have better armor-piercingarmor-piercing characteristics.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DueToTheDead: The squadron's "anthem" is a version of The Reveal, usually (incorrectly) credited to Bartholomew Dowling.

to:

* DueToTheDead: The squadron's "anthem" is a version of The Reveal, Revel, usually (incorrectly) credited to Bartholomew Dowling.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* AGoodWayToDie: Dyer's mother, who died fighting off an Aries raid on her carrier group on day five of Operation Daybreak. When Noin points out the practice of wearing a gun in the cockpit wasn't lucky for her, Dyer responds that making ace inside five minutes and successfully saving the battlegroup isn't a failure, regardless of whether you live through it.


Added DiffLines:

* DueToTheDead: The squadron's "anthem" is a version of The Reveal, usually (incorrectly) credited to Bartholomew Dowling.
* HeDidntMakeIt: Focht's habit in referring to people who died during the Eve Wars is to say they "didn't make it to the end."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NoseArt: Type C in full effect, as befits a Gundam series.
** Noin's Taurus still wears the colors it had in Sanq Kingdom service, which manage to ''retroactively'' count as a flashy paint job.
** Duo Maxwell's Taurus is painted in black with dark blue detailing.
** Trowa Barton's Serpent replaces the grey part of the standard Preventer grey and white paint scheme with Barton family royal blue as part of his decision to press his claim and become the ''real'' Trowa Barton.
** Richard Dyer's Taurus is painted in a single-color flat grey, different from the standard Preventer grey; it's implied the paint is Alliance lunar camouflage, meaning that like Noin his suit counts as having a custom paint job because the entity it's ''standard'' to is defunct.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* PerspectiveFlip: The Zechs Interludes.


Added DiffLines:

** Zechs Merquise is openly tormented by his time in Epyon's cockpit; the suit gave him certainty and power, but the certainty was very much in the wrong things and he knows it. He also seems to hear Trieze's voice at times.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ArmorIsUseless: Averted from the original; an Aries 90mm chaingun can't penetrate most of the armor on a Preventer Taurus. At the same time played straighter than the original as well: certain parts of a Gundam can be penetrated with standard Preventer weapons.
** Knowing that the opposition is composed of Gundams at one point, the Preventers switch out for weapons that can actually hurt most of them.

to:

* ArmorIsUseless: Averted from the original; an Aries 90mm chaingun can't penetrate most of the armor on a Preventer Taurus. At the same time played straighter than the original as well: certain parts of a Gundam can be penetrated with standard Preventer weapons.
** Knowing
weapons, but they prefer to arm themselves with either highly focused lasers or heavy beam rifles that have better armor-piercing
** The standard rifle of a Super Leo, common to
the opposition is composed of Gundams at one point, colonial militias, cannot penetrate the Preventers switch armor of a Gundam. Their 203mm [[ShoulderCannon shoulder-mounted guns]] ''can'', as a Deathscythe Guilty discovers when a squadron of Super Leos blows its reactor and cockpit out for weapons that can actually hurt most of them.its back. In small pieces.

Changed: 123

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** My Missiles are Better.: The only scene involving missile use so far has had most of them evaded, or worse, jammed without much particular effort.

to:

** My Missiles are Better.: The only scene involving missile use so far has had most of them evaded, or worse, jammed without much particular effort.Same as everyone elses'.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Knowing that the opposition is composed of Gundams at one point, the Preventers switch out for weapons that can actually hurt most of them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** A "rocket ranger" is OZ Space Forces slang for an MS pilot who carries a weapon in the cockpit and is considered derogatory; it makes relatively little sense to have a weapon in your survival gear in space.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BeingEvilSucks: Zechs certainly seems to think so, but retroactively.


Added DiffLines:

** Dyer has shades of this towards Noin at first; OZ killed nearly his entire extended family during Operation Daybreak.

Added: 504

Changed: 56

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AffectionateNickname: Noin is "Boss" to Duo and Hilde, and "Skipper" to her wing Forsythe and Richard Dyer. [[CultureClash She doesn't actually know what "Skipper" means the first time she hears it.]]

to:

* AffectionateNickname: Noin is "Boss" to Duo and Hilde, and "Skipper" to most of the rest of her wing Forsythe and Richard Dyer.squadron. [[CultureClash She doesn't actually know what "Skipper" means the first time she hears it.]]


Added DiffLines:

* OhCrap: A colony full of twenty-plus hostile Gundams?
** Noin nearly panics when confronted with an Altron Gundam clone; it's implied later she was flashing back to her combat against the Shenlong piloted Wufei Chang.


Added DiffLines:

*UnusualWeaponMounting: The missile racks on a Preventer Taurus are faired housings for six missiles each, mounted on the suit's chest so they will fire forward in Fighter mode. When used in mobile suit mode, the suit appears to be firing a VLS system out of a pair of (small) breasts.

Top