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* In the Nickelodeon flick ''Film/SnowDay''; the "villain" is simply the town snowplow driver, referred to exclusively as "[[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep Snowplow Man]]". It's more or less PlayedForLaughs, as obviously, from the perspective of a kid, the guy who clears away the snow and enables more school days after a blizzard ''must'' be a heinous villain, even though this is obviously not the sole consequence for clearing away the snow. Then we actually see the guy in action and it turns out TheCuckoolanderWasRight, and he does take pleasure in [[ChildHater sending the kids back to school]] ForTheEvulz.
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* In the Nickelodeon flick ''Film/SnowDay''; the "villain" is simply the town snowplow driver, referred to exclusively as "[[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep Snowplow Man]]". It's more or less PlayedForLaughs, as obviously, from the perspective of a kid, the guy who clears away the snow and enables more school days after a blizzard ''must'' be a heinous villain, even though this is obviously not the sole reason or consequence for clearing away the snow. Then we actually see the guy in action and it turns out TheCuckoolanderWasRight, and he does ''does'' take pleasure in [[ChildHater sending the kids back to school]] ForTheEvulz.
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* ''Film/TheSantaClause'': The cops later in the first film are seen as trying to ruin Christmas by arresting Santa, but from their perspective, they're just holding someone who kidnapped a young boy.
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* ''Film/TheSantaClause'': The cops later in the first film are seen treated as trying to ruin Christmas by arresting Santa, but from their perspective, they're just holding someone who kidnapped a young boy.
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* In the Nickelodeon flick ''Film/SnowDay''; the "villain" is simply the town snowplow driver, referred to exclusively as "[[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep Snowplow Man]]". It's more or less PlayedForLaughs, as obviously, from the perspective of a kid, the guy who clears away the snow and enables more school days after a blizzard is a heinous villain, even though this is obviously not the sole consequence for clearing away the snow. Then we actually see the guy in action and it turns out TheCuckoolanderWasRight, and he does take pleasure in [[ChildHater sending the kids back to school]] ForTheEvulz.
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* In the Nickelodeon flick ''Film/SnowDay''; the "villain" is simply the town snowplow driver, referred to exclusively as "[[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep Snowplow Man]]". It's more or less PlayedForLaughs, as obviously, from the perspective of a kid, the guy who clears away the snow and enables more school days after a blizzard is ''must'' be a heinous villain, even though this is obviously not the sole consequence for clearing away the snow. Then we actually see the guy in action and it turns out TheCuckoolanderWasRight, and he does take pleasure in [[ChildHater sending the kids back to school]] ForTheEvulz.
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**It's not even that Pitkannen is a jerkass. Monty didn't graduate "with honors" due to turning in his thesis later than required for honors status. He could have gotten it finished, [[spoiler:but chose to go with Simon to meet the latter's son instead of finishing the thesis, which was just completing the bibliography]].
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* ''Film/RealSteel'': Max's Aunt Debra. While she's not a villain in any sense, or even really an antagonist, the few scenes she's in paint her as a haughty RichBitch who looks down on Charlie, and badgers the exasperated judge. The thing is, she has every right to think very little of Charlie and to not want him having an influence on his son, and her frustration in the court scene could easily be a reflection of knowing what a deadbeat he was at the time.
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Jerry isn't portrayed or even implied to be a villain, and he's not even antagonistic on any level. The major reason Audrey marrying him was an issue was she'd have to move to Boston to do it and it would prevent Fletcher and Max from ever seeing each other again. The movie even had Audrey be on the fence about marrying Jerry, only did so on a kneejerk reaction Fletcher letting her down one too many times, and was even regretting it while still on the plane. She also doesn't leave Jerry to get back with Fletcher: the ending shows that she and Fletcher were only starting to get back together a full year after the events of the film.
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* ''Film/LiarLiar'': Jerry is, to all appearances, a nice guy who's good with kids. He's even friendly to Fletcher despite knowing exactly why Audrey divorced the man in the first place. The audience probably isn't supposed to actively dislike him, but we are still supposed to root for Audrey to dump him and get back together with Fletcher. (Which he takes with ''astonishingly'' good grace.)
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* ''Film/FlightOfTheNavigator'': Dr. Faraday fills the only real antagonistic role in the film, but isn't necessarily a bad guy so much as a beleaguered bureaucrat who's trying to juggle a very awkward workload. Even though NASA is essentially holding David against his will while they study him, the Doctor still makes some effort to ensure David is kept content while he's in their custody (though not ''enough'' effort, obviously) and does show concern for his safety once the boy ends up commandeering the drone ship. Even his [[PunchClockVillain "mooks"]] are a bunch of pleasant chaps who settle in with the Freemans to watch ''The Price is Right'' while staking out their house.
** When Max shuts down to [[TheOnlyWayTheyWillLearn teach David a lesson]], the ship starts falling out of the sky. Dr. Faraday immediately asks, "Did somebody *shoot* him down??" He is concerned for David's welfare. But [[AdultsAreUseless as every child knows]], being concerned for the child's welfare is different from having their best interests at heart.
** When Max shuts down to [[TheOnlyWayTheyWillLearn teach David a lesson]], the ship starts falling out of the sky. Dr. Faraday immediately asks, "Did somebody *shoot* him down??" He is concerned for David's welfare. But [[AdultsAreUseless as every child knows]], being concerned for the child's welfare is different from having their best interests at heart.
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* ''Film/HanumanVs7Ultraman'': The kaiju were merely awakened by scientists' attempts to launch artificial rain and went on a rampage due to being disturbed, yet they are brutally ganged on by Hanuman and the Ultra Brothers and suffer graphic deaths, with nary a reference to them being [[NonMaliciousMonster Non-Malicious Monsters]] like more sympathetic entries of the ''Franchise/UltraSeries'' would make.
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* Dan Sanders in ''Film/FurryVengeance'' is a NiceGuy who just happens to work for a company that wants to tear down the forest. However, because he works for the company, even though he has no real power in whether or not the forest will be destroyed (as he's pretty much just the land developer and, therefore, the middle man), we are supposed to be delighted when the animals beat him up.
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* Dan Sanders in ''Film/FurryVengeance'' is a NiceGuy who just happens to work for a company that wants to tear down the forest. However, because he works for the company, even though he has no real power in whether or not the forest will be destroyed (as he's pretty much just the land developer and, therefore, the middle man), we are supposed to be delighted when the animals beat him up.
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* ''Literature/FriedGreenTomatoesAtTheWhistlestopCafe'': Not a villain per se, but Evelyn's husband is portrayed in a very negative way. Throughout the movie, the audience never sees nor hears of him doing anything bad to her or anyone else. He's not very exciting and clearly has interests that don't involve her, but he doesn't try to suppress her new-found spirit either. When it is inconvenient for him, he gets annoyed, but never says anything mean or regrettable. The only time he ever draws the line is when she wants to move Ninny in with them--something he only finds out about when he discovers Evelyn preparing a room for her. He attempts to reason that Ninny is both very old and not even family. Since Evelyn has only known Ninny for a short time, has only visited her in a facility where she receives 24/7 care, and that despite her age, Ninny is otherwise in good health and could live for several more years (not to mention the inevitable issues that will arise when they must make end-of-life decisions for a non-related adult living under their roof), [[StrawmanHasAPoint Ed definitely has a point.]]
** Ed's chief "villainy" is not that he does anything bad to Evelyn, or that he tries to prevent her from doing what she wants. It's more that he seems blind to his wife's growing unhappiness. In fairness to Ed, Evelyn believes that she is at fault and doesn't express her concerns to Ed until she's [[DespairEventHorizon well past despair]] (the film plays this for laughs while the novel shows her frequently fantasizing about suicide), but once she does so, Ed seems responsive to the idea.
*** There's also a little difference in the film (where Evelyn's personal growth is the main focus) and the novel (where we have a little more time to see how their marriage is going). By the end of the film, Ed's just warming up to his wife's new ideas; in the book, he comes around a little earlier and the book ends with indications that their relationship is in the midst of a happy upswing. Plus, there's something to be said about a man who visits his belligerent elderly aunt in a nursing home every week, even when he knows she's just going to throw things at him.
** Ed's chief "villainy" is not that he does anything bad to Evelyn, or that he tries to prevent her from doing what she wants. It's more that he seems blind to his wife's growing unhappiness. In fairness to Ed, Evelyn believes that she is at fault and doesn't express her concerns to Ed until she's [[DespairEventHorizon well past despair]] (the film plays this for laughs while the novel shows her frequently fantasizing about suicide), but once she does so, Ed seems responsive to the idea.
*** There's also a little difference in the film (where Evelyn's personal growth is the main focus) and the novel (where we have a little more time to see how their marriage is going). By the end of the film, Ed's just warming up to his wife's new ideas; in the book, he comes around a little earlier and the book ends with indications that their relationship is in the midst of a happy upswing. Plus, there's something to be said about a man who visits his belligerent elderly aunt in a nursing home every week, even when he knows she's just going to throw things at him.
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* ''Film/LiarLiar'': Jerry is, to all appearances, a nice guy who's good with kids. He's even friendly to Fletcher despite knowing exactly why Audrey divorced the man in the first place. The audience probably isn't supposed to actively dislike him, but we are still supposed to root for Audrey to dump him and get back together with Fletcher. (Which he takes with ''astonishingly'' good grace.)
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* ''Film/RealSteel'': Max's Aunt Debra. While she's not a villain in any sense, or even really an antagonist, the few scenes she's in paint her as a haughty RichBitch who looks down on Charlie, and badgers the exasperated judge. The thing is, she has every right to think very little of Charlie and to not want him having an influence on his son, and her frustration in the court scene could easily be a reflection of knowing what a deadbeat he was at the time.
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* ''Film/TheFly1958'': The spider gets crushed to death for the mortal sin of being a carnivore. Or perhaps merely because it was next to Andre-fly which freaked out the inspector to the point of feeling it necessary to kill both.
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* ''Film/AChristmasPrince'': Why exactly would Simon taking the throne be so bad? Especially since Richard is adopted and Emily can't inherit, meaning he's not even being a usurper. It's legally his! Not to mention that Richard for most of the movie shows no interest in taking the throne. The later movies even show that Simon legitimately cares for the kingdom as much as Richard, if not more.
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* ''Film/BruceAlmighty'': Evan Baxter, whose only crime is legitimately getting the job Bruce wanted. Although that might be the point, given that Bruce is portrayed as a jerk at first. Maybe the creators realized this, which is why Evan is the protagonist of the sequel.
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* ''Film/MeanGirls'': Karen barely even qualifies as a villain, and is really only depicted that way since she's one of the Plastics. And given how unbelievably stupid she is, it's hard to tell if she even had an understanding that she's associated with bad people.
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* ''Film/TheTimeTravelers'': Willard is treated as a villain for pointing out that the rocket built to save the last of humanity has no room for four more passengers and that there's no time to add more room or rebuild the time window so that the scientists (and electrician) can go home.
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* ''Film/MadMaxBeyondThunderdome'': Aside from having some stringent laws, Aunty Entity and the residents of Bartertown aren't all that evil. Master and Blaster, despite nearly killing Max several times, are only doing what they feel is necessary for them to survive.
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* ''Film/{{Accepted}}'': While he shows his true colors partway through the film, Hoyt Ambrose acts like a legitimately nice person for the first half of the movie, such as going out of his way to try to welcome the schubby-looking Sherman to their fraternity even when the other brothers are rudely ostracizing him. But Bartleby constantly insults him to his face with no provocation from the beginning, implicitly just because he's going out with the girl B has a crush on, and the audience is implicitly intended to sympathize with him long before it turns out Hoyt is a mean-spirited cheater.
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* ''Film/TheFirstWivesClub'': Phoebe, Bill's mistress. Unlike the other mistresses, she didn't have any ill will towards Elise and genuinely idolized her, even coming to her career-resurrecting play to enthusiastically cheer her on.
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* ''Film/TheNeverEndingStoryIIIEscapeFromFantasia'': Bastian's stepsister may be a witch, but she actually does something with the power she obtains, and while what she does with it is selfish, Bastian's calling her out for screwing things up falls flat since he could have avoided it all by actually doing something with it himself when he had the chance. Also, she's part of why he wins the final fight, by using the book to give him super kung-fu moves. While he's still got the amulet and still isn't using it.
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* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans1981'': Medusa has [[TheWoobie never done anything wrong in her entire life]], and just wants to be left alone in a place no one could find her. That doesn't stop people from all over the world apparently hunting her down and trying to kill her to get her head, even though they have to ''enter the Underworld'' to do it.
* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans2010'': Medusa again, with a deeply tragic backstory. Io even seems to think she deserves pity. Of course, she's more of a means to an end to defeat the ''real'' villain, but still. Although here she's shown to be far more malevolent than her counterpart in the 80s version -- where she appears to take great delight in killing the soldiers, and cackles whenever she successfully scares them.
* ''Film/ClashOfTheTitans2010'': Medusa again, with a deeply tragic backstory. Io even seems to think she deserves pity. Of course, she's more of a means to an end to defeat the ''real'' villain, but still. Although here she's shown to be far more malevolent than her counterpart in the 80s version -- where she appears to take great delight in killing the soldiers, and cackles whenever she successfully scares them.
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* ''Film/HomeAlone 4'': Natalie. Despite ''supposedly'' being some kind of RichBitch WickedStepmother, she is nothing but kind to Kevin until he ruins her engagement party [[note]] He ''was'' trying to stop some burglars, however, considering no one else saw anything and he provides no evidence, you can't really blame her for being skeptical [[/note]] and gives her reason to suspect he is trying to sabotage her relationship with Peter. She is even nice to [[TheMissusAndTheEx Kate when she comes to visit]], the only bad thing she's alleged to have done is overwork Prescott, [[OffscreenVillainy which we never even get to see]], as such the ending (Peter breaks up with her on Christmas Eve and she bursts into tears in front of everyone, who seem to be happy about it) comes across as ''extremely'' mean spirited.
* However, ''Home Sweet Home Alone'' might be even worse regarding the supposed bad guys, specially when they end up getting more audience sympathy than the protagonist: Jeff and Pam are in desperate financial straits and only want to get back a valuable family heirloom from a SpoiledBrat rich kid who does very little to endear himself to the audience. About their only "villainous" trait is [[spoiler:jumping to the conclusion that Max stole the doll, which he actually didn't]]. It's quite telling that the movie feels the need to contrive a FawltyTowersPlot so that Max thinks they're trying to kidnap him, just so he won't look like a complete asshole for putting them through the franchise's typical slapstick misery.
* However, ''Home Sweet Home Alone'' might be even worse regarding the supposed bad guys, specially when they end up getting more audience sympathy than the protagonist: Jeff and Pam are in desperate financial straits and only want to get back a valuable family heirloom from a SpoiledBrat rich kid who does very little to endear himself to the audience. About their only "villainous" trait is [[spoiler:jumping to the conclusion that Max stole the doll, which he actually didn't]]. It's quite telling that the movie feels the need to contrive a FawltyTowersPlot so that Max thinks they're trying to kidnap him, just so he won't look like a complete asshole for putting them through the franchise's typical slapstick misery.
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* ''Film/HomeAlone 4'': ''Film/HomeAlone4TakingBackTheHouse'': Natalie. Despite ''supposedly'' being some kind of RichBitch WickedStepmother, she is nothing but kind to Kevin until he ruins her engagement party [[note]] He ''was'' trying to stop some burglars, however, considering no one else saw anything and he provides no evidence, you can't really blame her for being skeptical [[/note]] and gives her reason to suspect he is trying to sabotage her relationship with Peter. She is even nice to [[TheMissusAndTheEx Kate when she comes to visit]], the only bad thing she's alleged to have done is overwork Prescott, [[OffscreenVillainy which we never even get to see]], as such the ending (Peter breaks up with her on Christmas Eve and she bursts into tears in front of everyone, who seem to be happy about it) comes across as ''extremely'' mean spirited.
* However,''Home Sweet Home Alone'' ''Film/HomeSweetHomeAlone'' might be even worse regarding the supposed bad guys, specially when they end up getting more audience sympathy than the protagonist: Jeff and Pam are in desperate financial straits and only want to get back a valuable family heirloom from a SpoiledBrat rich kid who does very little to endear himself to the audience. About their only "villainous" trait is [[spoiler:jumping to the conclusion that Max stole the doll, which he actually didn't]]. It's quite telling that the movie feels the need to contrive a FawltyTowersPlot so that Max thinks they're trying to kidnap him, just so he won't look like a complete asshole for putting them through the franchise's typical slapstick misery.
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* Zander Barcalow in ''Film/StarshipTroopers''. He's supposed to be seen as the bad guy because he keeps trying to "steal" Johnny Rico's girl Carmen throughout the movie. However, he's completely upfront about his interest in her. When they fight in the mess hall, he keeps his word about disregarding rank (he's an officer fighting with an enlisted man), he could have easily had Johnny imprisoned, thrown out of the Mobile Infantry, or even (going by book canon and/or the third movie) ''executed''. He risks his own ass to come out and give the Roughnecks covering fire when they are evacuating Planet P when he could have sat in his cockpit, safe and sound. He was an honorable man and a brave soldier.
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* Zander Barcalow in ''Film/StarshipTroopers''. He's supposed to be seen as the bad guy because he keeps trying to "steal" Johnny Rico's girl Carmen throughout the movie. However, he's completely upfront about his interest in her. When they fight in the mess hall, he keeps his word about disregarding rank (he's an officer fighting with an enlisted man), he could have easily had Johnny imprisoned, thrown out of the Mobile Infantry, or even (going by book canon and/or the third movie) ''executed''. He risks his own ass to come out and give the Roughnecks covering fire when they are evacuating Planet P when he could have sat in his cockpit, safe and sound. He was an honorable man and a brave soldier. It also doesn't help that whilst Rico is actively trying to fight off the affections of Dizzy, the same simply cannot be said about Carmen when it comes to Zander (at least by what we see on-screen). Its hard to put all of the fault at his door for trying to ''steal'' away another man's girlfriend when she comes across as wanting to be stolen.
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* ''Film/TheSantaClause'': The cops later in the first film are seen as trying to ruin Christmas by arresting Santa, but from their perspective, they're just holding someone who kidnapped a young boy.
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* ''Film/TheWizard'': The villain of this movie is ''literally the finder of lost children.'' The protagonists think he's sick because he gets paid for it. Putnam is a {{Jerkass}}, but he was just doing his job. However, Putnam does actively attempt to stop the father of the boys from finding him first by slashing his tires and later bribing a tow truck driver into towing the dad's truck which results in it getting stripped just so Putnam can get the reward money, so he's not exactly innocent.
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* ''Film/TheMusicMan'': Charlie Cowell, the anvil salesman who hates Hill and wants to expose him as a fraud. He's a little sleazy, hitting on Marian, and even when he tries to help people it's for selfish reasons and he acts like an ass while doing so. But he ends the play having probably lost his job and watching Harold Hill get away with everything.
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* ''Film/TheShapeOfWater'': During the Asset's breakout, Giles is caught and nearly arrested by a security guard. However, Dr. Hoffstetler arrives at the last minute and gives the guard a lethal injection. The scene is played up as a BigDamnHero moment. Never mind the fact that the victim was an ordinary security guard who was JustFollowingOrders. Could also be seen as a case of ProtagonistCenteredMorality. Then again, Giles himself was horrified at this action, it could be said to be a necessary evil in order to save the Asset, and presumably everyone else.
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* ''Film/TheParentTrap1961'': While Vicki may be an unsympathetic character, at the same time she is only viewed as a "villain" by the girls, simply because she gets in the way of their plan to reunite their parents. Plus, she really didn't deserve the last prank the girls pulled on her (by covering her feet in honey), which really could have killed her — which makes her understandably furious. And while much is made of Vicki being a gold digger, no one ever seems to call out Mitch for being a much older man marrying a younger woman, or for failing to mention to the woman he intends to marry that he was previously married and has another daughter; Vicki is justifiably not pleased when she finds out the truth. On the other hand the film does establish early on that she only wants to marry Mitch for his money and she remarks to her own mother about her plans to ship Sharon and Susan off to boarding school.
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* ''Film/WithHonors'': Pitkannen seems like this with Monty as his [[TheDragon dragon]]. Though he is condescending and dismissive, especially towards Simon, Pitkannen was never really outright antagonistic towards any of the main characters apart from maybe deciding to withhold Monty's honors status on graduation after the alterations made to his thesis. So he isn't really a "villain", so much as he's merely just a {{Jerkass}}.
