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->'''Played By:''' Creator/StormReid (TV series)
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*MissingStepsPlan: [[spoiler: Even if you take away the immorality of executing an innocent girl without her consent, their plan to develop a cure has far too many holes in it to work out as it should. 1. They have lost most of their manpower and have no way of distributing the cure on a massive scale. 2. They have already made too many enemies after their bombing attacks on FEDRA backfired on them. 3. Humanity is heavily divided are constantly fighting each other. The prospect of a cure would just make them attack the Fireflies to steal the Cure for themselves. [[SenselessSacrifice It is highly probable that Ellie would have died for nothing even if she consented.]] ]]
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* VillainHasAPoint: [[spoiler:She tells Joel that Ellie would want to sacrifice herself if it meant saving humanity. She's later proven right when Ellie admits to having survivor's guilt over the deaths of the people they met along the way and breaks off her relationship with Joel upon learning that he prevented her sacrifice to become a cure for the Cordyceps]].
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Her decision to tell Joel about what they intend to do with Ellie kicks off a devastating cascade of events, starting with [[spoiler:the near-complete annihilation of the Fireflies' Salt Lake chapter and culminating in the entirety of the events of ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPartII'']]. If she'd listened to her staff's advice, the lives of countless people across the US, maybe even the whole world, would've turned out radically different.
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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Her decision to tell Joel about what they intend to do with Ellie kicks off a devastating cascade of events, starting with [[spoiler:the near-complete annihilation of the Fireflies' Salt Lake chapter and culminating in the entirety of the events of ''VideoGame/TheLastOfUsPartII'']]. If she'd listened to her staff's advice, the lives of countless people across the US, maybe even the whole world, would've might’ve turned out radically different.
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* AmbiguouslyEvil: What lands them in this category is that only Marlene and Jerry are seen as good people at best, AntiVillain at worst: the rest of the Fireflies seen are either civilians like medical workers, or straight up murderously violent and fighting to overtake the U.S. Military [[HeWhoFightsMonsters by any means possible]]. For what little exposure they get across the game's story, it's entirely possible Marlene is overlooking the BombThrowingAnarchists part in favor of thinking they're the good guys.
* ExhaustionInducedIdiocy: The reason why The Fireflies have made so many poorly calculated decisions in the world, was due to the dire straits of their group's situation. Mostly from the state of the world as it is and The Military knocking at their doorsteps. Plus the limited resources like food and clean water would also make many of the active members to become desperate, these members would then make irrational and hasty decisions that would only bring irreversibly damage their cause. [[spoiler:This is hammered home when the members encountered at The Fireflies' base are in a very sorry state at the end of the game; they're on the losing side of a war against the US Military, their best members and leaders are dropping like flies, the induction of younger members is not replacing their numbers quick enough, their bombing attacks on The US Military has backfired immensely and lost them nearly all of their former support, and to make matters worse they almost destroyed the world's hope of a vaccine/cure.]]
* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack the military in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the Cordyceps by sacrificing Ellie, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Jackson shows people who are essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are now just a part of life they have to get used to. The community in Jackson ends up being far more successful of the two.
* ExhaustionInducedIdiocy: The reason why The Fireflies have made so many poorly calculated decisions in the world, was due to the dire straits of their group's situation. Mostly from the state of the world as it is and The Military knocking at their doorsteps. Plus the limited resources like food and clean water would also make many of the active members to become desperate, these members would then make irrational and hasty decisions that would only bring irreversibly damage their cause. [[spoiler:This is hammered home when the members encountered at The Fireflies' base are in a very sorry state at the end of the game; they're on the losing side of a war against the US Military, their best members and leaders are dropping like flies, the induction of younger members is not replacing their numbers quick enough, their bombing attacks on The US Military has backfired immensely and lost them nearly all of their former support, and to make matters worse they almost destroyed the world's hope of a vaccine/cure.]]
* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack the military in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the Cordyceps by sacrificing Ellie, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Jackson shows people who are essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are now just a part of life they have to get used to. The community in Jackson ends up being far more successful of the two.
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* AmbiguouslyEvil: What lands them in this category is that only Marlene and Jerry are seen as good people at best, AntiVillain at worst: the rest of the Fireflies seen are either civilians like medical workers, or straight up murderously violent and fighting to overtake the U.S. Military overthrow FEDRA [[HeWhoFightsMonsters by any means possible]]. For what little exposure they get across the game's story, it's entirely possible Marlene is overlooking the BombThrowingAnarchists part in favor of thinking they're the good guys.
* ExhaustionInducedIdiocy: The reason why The Fireflies have made so many poorly calculated decisions in the world, was due to the dire straits of their group's situation. Mostly from the state of the world as it is andThe Military FEDRA knocking at their doorsteps. Plus the limited resources like food and clean water would also make many of the active members to become desperate, these members would then make irrational and hasty decisions that would only bring irreversibly damage their cause. [[spoiler:This is hammered home when the members encountered at The Fireflies' base are in a very sorry state at the end of the game; they're on the losing side of a war against the US Military, FEDRA, their best members and leaders are dropping like flies, the induction of younger members is not replacing their numbers quick enough, their bombing attacks on The US Military FEDRA has backfired immensely and lost them nearly all of their former support, and to make matters worse they almost destroyed the world's hope of a vaccine/cure.]]
* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attackthe military FEDRA in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the Cordyceps by sacrificing Ellie, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Jackson shows people who are essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are now just a part of life they have to get used to. The community in Jackson ends up being far more successful of the two.
* ExhaustionInducedIdiocy: The reason why The Fireflies have made so many poorly calculated decisions in the world, was due to the dire straits of their group's situation. Mostly from the state of the world as it is and
* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: The Fireflies's attempts to overthrow the military and restore democracy has led to several human holdouts to fall to the infected and bandits.
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: They will undertake any action no matter how extreme to return power to the people, even if it means killing innocents both directly and indirectly by their actions. [[spoiler:Their attacks on the military also cause cities to become defenseless against bandit gangs and hordes of infected.]]
* SavingTheWorld: The Fireflies are dedicated to restoring humanity and democratic rule, staging attacks on the military as well as researching into a vaccine against the spores. They need Ellie for that. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, [[WouldHurtAChild this means dissecting her.]]]].
* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Despite having the same goal of protecting what is left of the human race, the Fireflies concentrate most of their efforts on overthrowing the US military and reinstate democracy as the last holdouts of humanity are under strict martial law, causing several cities to be lost to the infected and bandits in the crossfire.
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: They will undertake any action no matter how extreme to return power to the people, even if it means killing innocents both directly and indirectly by their actions. [[spoiler:Their attacks on the military also cause cities to become defenseless against bandit gangs and hordes of infected.]]
* SavingTheWorld: The Fireflies are dedicated to restoring humanity and democratic rule, staging attacks on the military as well as researching into a vaccine against the spores. They need Ellie for that. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, [[WouldHurtAChild this means dissecting her.]]]].
* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Despite having the same goal of protecting what is left of the human race, the Fireflies concentrate most of their efforts on overthrowing the US military and reinstate democracy as the last holdouts of humanity are under strict martial law, causing several cities to be lost to the infected and bandits in the crossfire.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: The Fireflies's attempts to overthrow the military FEDRA and restore democracy has led to several human holdouts to fall to the infected and bandits.
* TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized: They will undertake any action no matter how extreme to return power to the people, even if it means killing innocents both directly and indirectly by their actions. [[spoiler:Their attacks onthe military FEDRA also cause cities to become defenseless against bandit gangs and hordes of infected.]]
* SavingTheWorld: The Fireflies are dedicated to restoring humanity and democratic rule, staging attacks onthe military FEDRA as well as researching into a vaccine against the spores. They need Ellie for that. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, [[WouldHurtAChild this means dissecting her.]]]].
* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Despite having the same goal of protecting what is left of the human race, the Fireflies concentrate most of their efforts on overthrowingthe US military FEDRA and reinstate reinstating democracy as the last holdouts of humanity are under strict martial law, causing several cities to be lost to the infected and bandits in the crossfire.
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* WeAREStrugglingTogether: Despite having the same goal of protecting what is left of the human race, the Fireflies concentrate most of their efforts on overthrowing
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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Unlike the military, who are simply trying to maintain control and destroy threats, the Fireflies want to "rise from the ashes" and restore civilization to what it once was.
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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Unlike the military, FEDRA, who are simply trying to maintain control and destroy threats, the Fireflies want to "rise from the ashes" and restore civilization to what it once was.
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* SavingTheWorld: The Fireflies are dedicated to restoring humanity and democratic rule, staging attacks on the military as well as researching into a vaccine against the spores. They need Ellie for that. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, [[WouldHurtAChild this means dissecting her.]] A document you can find implies this isn't the first time they've done so]].
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* SavingTheWorld: The Fireflies are dedicated to restoring humanity and democratic rule, staging attacks on the military as well as researching into a vaccine against the spores. They need Ellie for that. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, [[WouldHurtAChild this means dissecting her.]] A document you can find implies this isn't the first time they've done so]].]]]].
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* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack the military in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the cordyceps by sacrificing immune people, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Wyoming shows people who're essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are now just a part of life that they have to get used to. Tommy's group ends up being far more successful of the two.
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* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack the military in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the cordyceps Cordyceps by sacrificing immune people, Ellie, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Wyoming Jackson shows people who're who are essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are now just a part of life that they have to get used to. Tommy's group The community in Jackson ends up being far more successful of the two.
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* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack the military in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the cordyceps by sacrificing immune people, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Wyoming shows people who're essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are just a part of life now that they have to get used to. Tommy's group ends up being far more successful of the two.
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* {{Foil}}: To the Residents of Jackson, Wyoming. The Fireflies just can't seem to grasp that society has effectively changed beyond all repair and that nothing they do can fix it. They hold onto this mad nostalgia-induced idea that the world can be put back to the way it was before the cordyceps, and every decision they make is fueled by that delusion; they attack the military in an attempt to free the citizenry of their authoritarian rule, but that just makes the citizens vulnerable to infected and bandits; they try to make a vaccine for the cordyceps by sacrificing immune people, not fully comprehending that vaccines are only useful as a preventative measure to keep society functioning when it's clear that society has already completely crumbled to dust. Meanwhile, Tommy's group in Wyoming shows people who're essentially restarting civilization step by step and adapting to the new world, accepting that the infected are now just a part of life now that they have to get used to. Tommy's group ends up being far more successful of the two.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: By the time Joel and Ellie finally make it to the Fireflies' Salt Lake chapter, he's already bonded quite closely with her as a [[ReplacementGoldfish surrogate daughter figure]], something Marlene ''had'' to have figured what would happen given she herself was something of a ParentalSubstitute herself for the girl. So telling Joel the AwfulTruth about the job she gave him, and then sparing his life in an attempt to [[EveryoneHasStandards have some semblance of moral standards]] [[spoiler:gets all of them killed by his very hands to save Ellie. Some amount of it might be the guilt eating away at her, but Joel becomes one massive blind spot she repeatedly underestimates the audacity of.]]
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** She could have just killed Joel after separating him from Ellie, as he'd been knocked out and was in no position to fight back. However, she decides to take the [[HonorBeforeReason honorable]] course of action and not only spares his life, but honestly explains to him that Ellie will have to die if a cure for the infection is to be made. She feels that Joel is the only other person who might be able to understand the weight of her decision, and even after he refuses to listen to her, she'd rather have him escorted out instead of outright killed. However, Joel decides to violently rebel against her decision, and ends up effectively annihilating the Fireflies, herself included, as a result, and dooming all of humanity to never finding a cure.
** During her final confrontation with Joel, despite his rampage against the Fireflies, she's still reluctant to kill him, and she even lays down her weapon and tries to convince him to peacefully return Ellie to her. This ends up getting her killed.
** During her final confrontation with Joel, despite his rampage against the Fireflies, she's still reluctant to kill him, and she even lays down her weapon and tries to convince him to peacefully return Ellie to her. This ends up getting her killed.
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** She could have just killed Joel after separating him from Ellie, as he'd been knocked out and was in no position to fight back. However, she decides to take the [[HonorBeforeReason honorable]] course of action and not only spares his life, but honestly explains to him that Ellie will have to die if a cure for the infection is to be made. She feels that Joel is the only other person who might be able to understand the weight of her decision, and even after he refuses to listen to her, she'd rather have him escorted out instead of outright killed. However, [[spoiler:However, Joel decides to violently rebel against her decision, and ends up effectively annihilating the Fireflies, herself included, as a result, and dooming all of humanity to never finding a cure.
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**During [[spoiler:During her final confrontation with Joel, despite his rampage against the Fireflies, she's still reluctant to kill him, and she even lays down her weapon and tries to convince him to peacefully return Ellie to her. This ends up getting her killed.]]
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->'''Voiced by:''' Creator/RobinAtkinDownes (English)[[note]]'''Other languages''':René languages''': René Sagastume (Latin American Spanish), Ilya Khvostikov (Russian)[[/note]]
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->'''Voiced and played by:''' Creator/MerleDandridge (English)[[note]]'''Other languages''':Creator/RomiPark languages''': Creator/RomiPark (Japanese), Mara Campanelli (Latin American Spanish), Creator/AnaEstherAlborg (European Spanish), Lyubov Germanova (Russian)[[/note]]
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->'''Voiced by:''' Creator/YaaniKing (English)[[note]]'''Other languages''':Creator/MutsumiTamura languages''': Creator/MutsumiTamura (Japanese), Natalia Rosminati (Latin American Spanish), Sandra Jara (European Spanish), Lina Ivanova (Russian)[[/note]]
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* AscendedExtra: In the first game, he's a nameless generic NPC acquainted with Joel for about three seconds. In the second, he's a major figure in the backstory.
* FinalBoss: [[spoiler:[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Unless you decide to murder his two colleagues afterwards out of spite]], he is the final enemy to be directly confronted by the player in ''Part I'' ([[ZeroEffortBoss for what little struggle an untrained civilian with a scalpel can provide]]).]]
* FinalBoss: [[spoiler:[[VideoGameCrueltyPotential Unless you decide to murder his two colleagues afterwards out of spite]], he is the final enemy to be directly confronted by the player in ''Part I'' ([[ZeroEffortBoss for what little struggle an untrained civilian with a scalpel can provide]]).]]
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