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Princess Skyla, Princess Cadence and Shining Armor’s Pegasus daughter, is a stressed-out perfectionist (she got a particularly heavy dose of the Sparkle family’s issues with neurosis), obsessed with keeping up a properly regal and put-together image of herself. She is devoted to the Crystal Empire and her subjects, a major workaholic, and gets nowhere near as much sleep as she should. She desperately wants to be an Alicorn, and doesn’t get why Celestia won’t make her one. [[HiddenDepths She also has some well-hidden emotional issues]], and does not appear to be a particularly happy pony. She’s pen pals with Prince Artemis, friends with Magnolia May, and has a crush on one of Pandora's friends (revealed to be [[spoiler: Peachy Keen.]])

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Princess Skyla, Princess Cadence and Shining Armor’s Pegasus daughter, is a stressed-out perfectionist (she got a particularly heavy dose of the Sparkle family’s issues with neurosis), obsessed with keeping up a properly regal and put-together image of herself. She is devoted to the Crystal Empire and her subjects, a major workaholic, and gets nowhere near as much sleep as she should. She desperately wants to be an Alicorn, and doesn’t get why Celestia won’t make her one. [[HiddenDepths She also has some well-hidden emotional issues]], and does not appear to be a particularly happy pony. She’s pen pals with Prince Artemis, friends with Magnolia May, and has a crush on one of Pandora's friends (revealed to be [[spoiler: Peachy Keen.]])

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* HappilyMarried: To Johnny Appleseed.
* MissingMom: Heavily implied to be deceased.
* SpiritedYoungLady: In her youth.

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* SpiritedYoungLady: In her youth.
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* SpiritedYoungLady: Very much so, with Rarity's class and Applejack's forthrightness.

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* VitrioicBestBuds: He and his former mentor ''[[https://www.deviantart.com/lopoddity/art/Love-Dat-Zesty-748850033 Zesty Gourmand]]'' are very much this. Per [[WordOfGod Word Of Lop]]:

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* VitrioicBestBuds: He and his former mentor ''[[https://www.VitriolicBestBuds: [[https://www.deviantart.com/lopoddity/art/Love-Dat-Zesty-748850033 Him and his former cooking mentor, Zesty Gourmand]]'' Gourmand]] are very much this. Per [[WordOfGod Word Of Lop]]:
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* OddFriendship: Friendship may be a strong word, but he does have a bond with ''Zesty Gourmand'' of all ponies. She was a friend of Cinnamon's and Cuppa's cooking mentor. It's a very... unique relationship as noted below.
* VitrioicBestBuds: He and his former mentor ''[[https://www.deviantart.com/lopoddity/art/Love-Dat-Zesty-748850033 Zesty Gourmand]]'' are very much this. Per [[WordOfGod Word Of Lop]]:
--> '''Lopoddity:''' Yep, Zesty and Joe hate each other.....but they love each other........but they ''hate'' each other.......but they meet up for a civil coffee every so often. Only Joe is allowed to call her a joyless hag, and only Zesty is allowed to call him a porcine oaf. Mentor and student, bonded forever~

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* HasTwoMommies: One biological in Sapphire while the other adopted in Coloratura. She does have a biological father (via sperm donor) but has no interest in meeting him, at least initially. Ironically enough, she does meet Turnip back when she was a filly.
** She would eventually meet up with Hayseed Turnip down the line. He is very happy to meet her and instantly accepts her into the family. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.

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* HasTwoMommies: One biological in Sapphire while the other adopted in Coloratura. She does have a biological father (via sperm donor) but has no interest in meeting him, at least initially. him (least until he contacts her.) Ironically enough, she does meet Turnip back when she was a filly.
** She would eventually meet up with Hayseed Turnip down the line.line when he contacts her and she agrees to meet up with him. He is very happy to meet her and instantly accepts her into the family. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.

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* FriendToAllChildren: She adores spending time with children and also does her best to not swear around them.

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* FriendToAllChildren: She adores spending time with children and also does her best to not swear around them. Goes UpToEleven when she meets her half-siblings.



* HasTwoMommies: One biological in Sapphire while the other adopted in Coloratura. She does have a biological father (via sperm donor) but has no interest in meeting him, at least initially. Ironically enough, she does meet Turnip back when she was a filly, playfully commenting on his large teeth (something that she would end up inheriting down the line.)
** She also ends up meeting her biological dad, Hayseed Turnip, down the line and he is quite happy to see her to say the least, recognizing her as his. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.

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* HasTwoMommies: One biological in Sapphire while the other adopted in Coloratura. She does have a biological father (via sperm donor) but has no interest in meeting him, at least initially. Ironically enough, she does meet Turnip back when she was a filly, playfully commenting on his large teeth (something that she filly.
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would end eventually meet up inheriting with Hayseed Turnip down the line.)
** She also ends up meeting her biological dad, Hayseed Turnip, down the line and he
line. He is quite very happy to see meet her to say and instantly accepts her into the least, recognizing her as his.family. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.


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** Despite initially having no interest in meeting her bio dad, Frenzy met him back when she was just a filly, playfully commenting on his large teeth. She would end up getting some prominent teeth herself when she grew, likely from him.

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* AdultFear: For all his jerkassery, he still cared about his son [[https://www.deviantart.com/lopoddity/art/Fever-757095219 and the idea of losing Bruce after losing Butch terrified him.]]



* ItRunsInTheFamily: Apparently, fishing is a family tradition, which is why he insists on remaining one despite it not paying well and presumably why he tries to get his son(s) into it.

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* ItRunsInTheFamily: Apparently, fishing is has been a family tradition, staple for the Carcharodon family, which is why he insists on remaining one in the business despite it not paying well and presumably why he tries to get would try and make his son(s) into it.sons follow in his footsteps.



** Despite disliking his son for being a runt, he still cared for him and began panicking when Bruce began getting seriously ill as a colt.
* TookALevelInJerkass: While he was an unpleasant pony, Butch's death turned him into an embittered stallion to say the least. In an alternate scenario where Butch lived, he isn't as bad, but still a large jerk.

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** Despite disliking his son for being a runt, he still cared for him and began panicking [[https://www.deviantart.com/lopoddity/art/Fever-757095219 A rare moment of paternal affection from Cutthroat when Bruce began getting was seriously ill as a colt.
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* TookALevelInJerkass: While he Cutthroat was an unpleasant pony, Butch's always apparently rough around the edges, but the decline of his marriage with Fey and the death turned him into an embittered stallion to say the least. of his first son utterly darkened him. In an alternate scenario a tineline where Butch lived, he isn't as bad, but was still a large jerk.unpleasant, but not as such.



** In fact, the extent of her neglect is evident when seen in the AU where Butch lived and Bruce is noticeably larger and healthier-looking, presumably because he was fed.

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** In fact, the extent of her neglect is evident when seen in the AU where Butch lived and lived. Bruce is noticeably larger and healthier-looking, presumably because he was fed.healthier-looking since his mother never turned to alcohol.

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* HighSchoolSweethearts: Surprisingly enough, he was this back when he was with Fey Ocean. He did genuinely love and care about her. Unfortunately, she didn't exactly feel the same way, which was one of the reasons their marriage fell apart.

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* HighSchoolSweethearts: Surprisingly enough, he was this back when he was with Fey Ocean. He did genuinely love and care about her. Unfortunately, she didn't exactly feel was more InLoveWithLove and it's likely that is what led to problems way down the same way, which was one of the reasons their marriage fell apart. line.



** And it turns out he would have done this even if Butch had lived; he wouldn't have been as malicious about it but he still would have preferred Butch.

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** And it turns out he would have done this even Still present if Butch had lived; he wouldn't have been as malicious about it lived, but not as bad as he still would have preferred Butch.was in the main timeline.



** Despite disliking his son for being a runt, he still cared for him and began panicking when Bruce began getting seriously ill as a colt.



* EarnYourHappyEnding: She's out of her wretched marriage when Cutthroat ends up dying and finally gets to patch things up with Bruce after everything that happened. Furthermore, she gets along greatly with Aerostorm and becomes a doting grandmother to her granddaughter.

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: She's out of her wretched marriage when Cutthroat ends up dying and finally gets to patch things up with Bruce after everything that happened. Furthermore, she gets along greatly with Aerostorm and becomes a doting grandmother to her granddaughter. She even remarries to a nicer stallion.



* InLoveWithLove: Her FatalFlaw and why she got with Cutthroat. She loved the idea of being in love, but wasn't in love with Cutthroat, while he was very much with her. This explains a bit of why their relationship fell apart.

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* ** InLoveWithLove: Her FatalFlaw and why she got with Cutthroat. She loved the idea of being in love, but wasn't in love with Cutthroat, while Cutthroat himself. However, he was did very much with genuinely love her. This explains a bit of why their relationship fell apart.



** In fact, the extent of her neglect is evident when seen in the AU where Butch lived and Bruce is noticeably larger and healthier-looking, presumably because he was fed.



* ThrowTheDogABone: After dealing with an abusive husband, the death of her oldest son and estrangement from her youngest, Fey finally gets a happy ending with Nautilus and is a doting grandmother to Wave Rider.

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* ThrowTheDogABone: After dealing with an abusive husband, the death of her oldest son and estrangement from her youngest, Fey finally gets a happy ending with Nautilus Nautilus, patches things with Bruce and is a doting grandmother to Wave Rider.

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* BigBrotherBully/CoolBigBro: Loppodity provided an alternate scenario where Butch lived; he is a somewhat decent older brother to Bruce who just lacks understanding of Bruce's tender side. While he does care about Bruce and gives him advice, he takes a lot after his dad and so is a traditionally very masculine stallion while not understanding why his younger brother would feel guilty about their fishing practices. He does mean well, but his attempts at helping Bruce... aren't always the best.

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* BigBrotherBully/CoolBigBro: CoolBigBro: Downplayed example. Loppodity provided an alternate scenario where Butch lived; he is a somewhat decent older brother to Bruce who just lacks understanding of Bruce's tender side. While he does care about Bruce and gives him advice, he takes a lot after his dad and so is a traditionally very masculine stallion while not understanding why his younger brother would feel guilty about their fishing practices. He does mean well, but his attempts at helping Bruce... aren't always the best.best.
* ManlyGay: Despite being the traditional masculine figure, he is attracted to stallions, as the AU where he ends up survivng has him be attracted to Moondancer (who's an exotic dancer who flirts with him.)
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* AnimalMotif: Sharks. His cutie mark is a shark jaw, he got the scar on his cheek in a fight with a shark, he's as a marine biologist and often works with sharks, and his full name is [[Franchise/{{Jaws}} Bruce]] Charcharodon, as in the scientific name of the genus to which great white sharks belong.

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* AnimalMotif: Sharks. His cutie mark is a shark jaw, he got the scar on his cheek in a fight with a shark, he's as a marine biologist and often works with sharks, and his full name is [[Franchise/{{Jaws}} [[Film/{{Jaws}} Bruce]] Charcharodon, as in the scientific name of the genus to which great white sharks belong.



* AwesomeMcCoolName: His full name, [[Franchise/{{Jaws}} Bruce]] Charcharodon. It practically ''screams'' "badass shark".

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* AwesomeMcCoolName: His full name, [[Franchise/{{Jaws}} [[Film/{{Jaws}} Bruce]] Charcharodon. It practically ''screams'' "badass shark".
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* ComicBookFantasyCasting: According to [[http://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Voice-Actor-Meme-Pandoraverse-677302028 this post here]], Jam would sound like Harley Quinn (voiced by Creator/ArleenSorkin) while PB would be voiced by Jack McBrayer (the voice of Wander from WanderOverYonder.)

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* ComicBookFantasyCasting: According to [[http://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Voice-Actor-Meme-Pandoraverse-677302028 this post here]], Jam would sound like Harley Quinn (voiced by Creator/ArleenSorkin) while PB would be voiced by Jack McBrayer (the voice of Wander from WanderOverYonder.''WesternAnimation/WanderOverYonder''.)
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* AnIcePerson: The updated Cloudy now specialises in making ice-sculptures.

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* HartmanHips: In anthro and presumably human verses, Zee's got a pretty sweet rear, which she considers one of her best features.



** She also ends up meeting her biological dad, hayseed Turnip, down the line and he is quite happy to see her to say the least, recognizing her as his. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.

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** She also ends up meeting her biological dad, hayseed Hayseed Turnip, down the line and he is quite happy to see her to say the least, recognizing her as his. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.



** Zee loves flustering Moondancer but when he gets drunk in an AU where they're a couple and flirts with her by crassly admiring her [[HartmanHips rear end]], she's a blushing and stuttering mess.



* NiceGal: Yes she may be sassy and a tease, she is actually a very nice mare.

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* NiceGal: Yes she may be sassy and a tease, but she is actually a very nice mare.



** Is even worse in the AU where they're a couple.



* BigEater: Comes with the high level of activity she does but [[NoodleIncident apparently she traumatized a fast food worker]] [[BuffetBuffoonery during an "All-You-Can-Eat Oatburgers" Special]].



* PetTheDog: Lopoddity mentioned he has technically met his granddaughter Wave Rider once, when she accidentally ran into him in the market when she snuck away from Bruce. Despite disapproving both of Bruce turning into a mare temporarily to conceive her and getting together with Stormy, Cutthroat still protected Wave from the thieves around them and lead her to safety.

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* PetTheDog: Lopoddity mentioned he has technically met his granddaughter Wave Rider once, once when she accidentally ran into him in the market when she snuck away from Bruce. Despite disapproving both of Bruce turning into a mare temporarily to conceive her and his son getting together with Stormy, Cutthroat still protected Wave from the thieves around them and lead her to safety.
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* ButchLesbian: Lop calls her one and says she has a "big butch crush" on Vogue.


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* LadyLooksLikeADude: WordOfGod says she has a "complicated relationship with her femininity" and from her teens onwards she's regularly mistaken for a stallion.


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* UptownGirl: For Cuppa Joe, as Eerie is the heir to the throne of Canterlot while Joe is a commoner barista.
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* StealthyColossus: As [[https://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Adult-Smoky-Concept-694651013 an adult]] he's enormous, but is able to sneak around without making a sound.

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* OneTrueThreesome: She makes one with her Magnolia May and Zipperflash.



* BiTheWay: Her feelings for Rosemary do indeed turn from platonic to romantic and her first relationship was Pandora. [[https://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Love-and-War-684722042 That said, she gets a lot of sexual tension with Zipperflash and ultimately ends up in a polyamorous relationship.]]

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* BiTheWay: She herself admits it and WordOfGod confirms it though she also says she prefers mares over stallions. Her feelings for Rosemary do indeed turn from platonic to romantic and her first relationship was Pandora. with ''Pandora.'' [[https://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Love-and-War-684722042 That said, she gets a lot of sexual tension with Zipperflash and ultimately ends up in a polyamorous relationship.relationship with and Rosemary.]]

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* MasculineGirlFeminineBoy: Arguably this trope is deconstructed in her relationship with Aerostorm, with Phoenix mocking him over his sensitive nature, puppy crush on Chakra Blossom and commenting that Aerostorm is more like a daughter than a son to Rainbow Dash. Though Phoenix is unaware of just how hurtful her remarks are, this strikes a nerve with Aerostorm and though they do get along better as adults, he still has issues towards his sister.

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* MasculineGirlFeminineBoy: Arguably this trope is deconstructed in her relationship with Aerostorm, with Phoenix mocking him over his sensitive nature, puppy crush on Chakra Blossom and commenting that Aerostorm is more like a daughter than a son to Rainbow Dash. Though Phoenix is unaware of just how hurtful her remarks are, this strikes a nerve with Aerostorm Aerostorm. This has led to a strained relationship between them as adults and though they do get along better as adults, he still has issues towards his sister.Phoenix carries alot of guilt over how she hurt her big brother.

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* FantasticRacism: She often found herself on the receiving end of this, from when she would be ostracized by other foals on the playground for her different appearance and powers to when pony society made it very clear that no matter how hard she worked, they never had any intention of accepting her as a princess. It's one of the main reasons she chose to leave her duties and embrace her father's chaos.

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* FantasticRacism: She Now subverted via {{Retcon}}. Beforehand, she often found herself on the receiving end of this, from when she would be ostracized by other foals on the playground for her different appearance and powers to when pony society made it very clear that no matter how hard she worked, they never had any intention of accepting her as a princess. It's one of the main reasons she chose to leave her duties and embrace her father's chaos.



* GooGooGodlike: [[DeconstructedTrope Being deconstructed.]] [[WordOfGod Word Of Lop]] more or less hints at this trope when it comes to a young Pandora. While downplayed because she isn't as strong as her father, she still could do quite alot and the townsfolk were understandably afraid of her.



** Due to various changes, this has been retconned a bit. Pandora's reason for normality is no longer because she was ostracized or bullied, but because of being a CreepyChild who was GooGooGodlike and such, wants to prove to everyone that she is not a monster.



** Deconstructed since it made her a bit feared in town. [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/Making-New-Friends-734434981 Her pranks could have serious repercussions and she didn't know better as a child.]]

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** Deconstructed since it made the general public afraid of her back when she was a bit feared in town.child. [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/Making-New-Friends-734434981 Her Best seen when her mischievous pranks could have often has serious repercussions side-effects or consequences and she legitimately and genuinely didn't know better as a child.better.]]

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* CreepyChild: Downplayed. While she really wasn't that creepy, she was definitely [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/Making-New-Friends-734434981 perceived as such by the denizens of Ponyville.]] [[WordOfGod According to Lopoddity,]] this is because it didn't make sense for Pandora to be ostracized or bullied for her appearance given how Ponykind has been accepted of many odd-looking individuals. Instead, they're ''scared'' of her for being a very powerful child with a natural mischievous streak.

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* CreepyChild: Downplayed. While she really wasn't that creepy, she was definitely [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/Making-New-Friends-734434981 perceived as such by the denizens of Ponyville.]] [[WordOfGod According to Lopoddity,]] this is because it didn't make sense for Pandora to be ostracized or bullied for her appearance given how Ponykind has been accepted of many odd-looking individuals. Instead, they're ''scared'' of her for being because she has god-like power and all the naivete and carelessness of a very powerful child with a natural mischievous streak.child.

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* HasTwoMommies: One biological in Sapphire while the other adopted in Coloratura. She does have a biological father (via sperm donor) but has no interesting in meeting him. Ironically enough, she does meet Turnip back when she was a filly, playfully commenting on his large teeth (something that she would end up inheriting down the line.)
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* HasTwoMommies: One biological in Sapphire while the other adopted in Coloratura. She does have a biological father (via sperm donor) but has no interesting interest in meeting him.him, at least initially. Ironically enough, she does meet Turnip back when she was a filly, playfully commenting on his large teeth (something that she would end up inheriting down the line.)
** She also ends up meeting her biological dad dad, hayseed Turnip, down the line and he is quite happy to see her to say the least.least, recognizing her as his. This extends to his wife, Ms. Peachbottom, who more or less becomes her third mom.

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* CoolBigSis: [[https://www.deviantart.com/art/Next-of-Kin-739566169 Ends up becoming this to her bunch of little half-siblings.]]



** She also ends up meeting her biological dad down the line and he is quite happy to see her to say the least.



* {{Irony}}: Despite being a loud and bombastic mare, she becomes shy and sheepish when she meets her biological father, Hayseed Turnip, his wife Ms. Peachbottom and their kids (her half-siblings) who are all so dang excited to meet her.



* UnevenHybrid: Apparently, the father possessed mild amounts of donkey lineage that he passed to his daughter. While she's not a mule (and presumably the father isn't either), Zee does possess some donkey traits as a result such as her notably long ears. Her slight buck teeth (reminiscent of Timmy Turner's) is another thing that could be attributed.

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* UnevenHybrid: Apparently, the father (revealed to be Hayseed) possessed mild amounts of donkey lineage that he passed to his daughter. While she's not a mule (and presumably the father isn't either), Zee does possess some donkey traits as a result such as her notably long ears. Her slight buck teeth (reminiscent of Timmy Turner's) is another thing that could be attributed.
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\n* WholesomeCrossdresser: Regularly raids his sister's closet because he thinks that girls got all the good clothes and loves wearing skirts and feminine shoes.

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* DontTellMama: Spike and Thorax are oblivious to what he actually does for a living.



* DesperatelyCravesAffection: WordOfGod states that Zipperflash tends to develop crushes on pretty much anyone who is nice to him.



Fleur-de-Lis and Fancy Pants are a HappilyMarried couple in the Pandoraverse. At the time of Vogue's conception, Fleur revealed to Fancy Pants she had an affair with [[spoiler: Prince Blueblood]]. Despite this, the couple worked things out and Fancy Pants raised Vogue as his own daughter.

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Fleur-de-Lis and Fancy Pants are a HappilyMarried couple in the Pandoraverse. At the time of Vogue's conception, Fleur revealed to Fancy Pants she had an affair with [[spoiler: Prince Blueblood]].Blueblood. Despite this, the couple worked things out and Fancy Pants raised Vogue as his own daughter.


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* NotHelpingYourCase: She complains that Blueblood treats her like a child, but when he actually does tell her the AwfulTruth, her immediate reaction is to burst into tears and go running off to Fancy Pants.

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* JerkassHasAPoint: Though he was mostly saying it to drive a wedge between Aerostorm and Rosemary [[ItAmusedMe because he could]], he does have a point when he says that Rosie doesn't trust Aerostorm's judgment and thinks of him as a sweet, naïve idiot she needs to protect. Rosie isn't ''wrong'' for thinking this, but [[BerserkButton Stormy is clearly hurt that his best friend also thinks of him as stupid, even if it's with the best intentions.]]

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* InformedFlaw: His manipulativeness - thus far, we have only seen him successfully manipulating Aerostorm, every single other character has called him out on it.
* JerkassHasAPoint: Though he was mostly saying it to drive a wedge between Aerostorm and Rosemary [[ItAmusedMe because he could]], he does have a point when he says that Rosie doesn't trust Aerostorm's judgment and thinks of him as a sweet, naïve idiot she needs to protect. Rosie isn't ''wrong'' for thinking this, but [[BerserkButton Stormy is clearly hurt that his best friend also thinks of him as stupid, even if it's with the best intentions.]] Chakra also points out how childish Aerostorm and Rosemary are when they're together, as they still keep dream journals, have tea parties and watch "Sailor Mare" well into their teens.
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* {{Irony}}: Wave is Bruce's daughter and Oddball is Pandora's son. While their parents were at one another's throats, they're besties. Granted, Aerostorm is a close friend of Pandora's and Cupcake seems civil enough toward Bruce (they even marry in an AlternateTimeline, so it evens out.

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* {{Irony}}: Wave is Bruce's daughter and Oddball is Pandora's son. While their parents were at one another's throats, they're besties. Granted, Aerostorm is a close friend of Pandora's and Cupcake seems civil enough toward Bruce (they even marry in an AlternateTimeline, AlternateTimeline), so it evens out.
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** Has been shown to misinterpret romantic cues such as Truffles blushing when he takes off his shirt and Finn blatantly flirting with him goes over his head until Finn bluntly requests a kiss.

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** Has been shown to misinterpret romantic cues such as Truffles blushing when he takes off his shirt and Finn blatantly flirting with him goes going over his head until Finn bluntly requests a kiss.
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* BelligerentSexualTension: Had some with ''Magnolia Mat''... [[https://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Love-and-War-684722042 back when they were dating Rosemary at the same time.]] Lampshaded by Rosemary who found it utterly hilarious... especially when they deny it.

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* BelligerentSexualTension: Had some with ''Magnolia Mat''...May''... [[https://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Love-and-War-684722042 back when they were dating Rosemary at the same time.]] Lampshaded by Rosemary who found it utterly hilarious... especially when they deny it.

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A hippogriff (as in pony and griffin hybrid) who was close friends with Luna and ended up fathering Artemis. Unfortunately, he suddenly fell ill and ended up dying before they were born. From what has been revealed, he is a sorcerer. As revealed by Artemis' full name, he is from House Ravenwing.

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[[https://lopoddity.deviantart.com/art/Week-s-Doodles-637465418 A hippogriff (as in pony and griffin hybrid) sorcerer]] who was close friends with Luna and ended up fathering Artemis. Unfortunately, he suddenly fell ill and ended up dying before they were born. From what has been revealed, he is a sorcerer. As revealed by Artemis' full name, he is from House Ravenwing. [[https://lopoddityart.tumblr.com/post/151027870132/so-how-exactly-did-artemisconception-happen More info on him here.]]
* AltarDiplomacy: Daedalus and Luna considered this for convienence and political reasons once Luna learned she was pregnant. Unfortunately, it never came to pass.



* TheOwlKnowingOne: Despite being half-griffin (and therefore, quarter eagle), he actually looks quite owl-like. It certainly fits his career as a sorcerer while also giving a greater connection to his friend/lover, Princess Luna.

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* TheOwlKnowingOne: Despite being half-griffin (and therefore, quarter eagle), he actually looks quite owl-like. It certainly fits his career as a sorcerer sorcerer, philosopher and astronomer while also giving a greater connection to his friend/lover, Princess Luna.

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** Then there's how they announced they were with special someponies with Jam...

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** [[http://lopoddity.deviantart.com/status/5076953 Then there's how they announced they were with special someponies with Jam...]]


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* CannotSpitItOut: A variation. Artemis initially had trouble announcing that Jam was their special somepony. [[http://lopoddity.deviantart.com/status/5076953 They then proceed to subvert it in a hilariously awesome way when Jam riles Artemis up.]]

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