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* Menelaus, who is described as being the weakest warrior of the Greek kings and yet pulls off some of the most courageous actions.
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* Menelaus, who is described as being the weakest warrior of the Greek kings and yet pulls off some of the most courageous actions. He curbstomps Paris and later saves Patroclus' body.
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* Diomedes goes on a rampage through the Trojan army, killing everyone he comes across, wounding Aphrodite and Ares, forcing the God of War to flee from him. The Trojans fear him more than ACHILLES (though the fact that he stayed in his tent for 90% of the poem probably factored into that), the only person who he couldn't defeat was Hector, the greatest Trojan warrior, and that was because Zeus himself sent a thunderbolt to tell Diomedes to not fight him. Even more so when you realize that Diomedes, unlike Achilles, is [[{{BadassNormal}} ''fully mortal'']]. Here is what Helenus, Hector's brother and a seer says about him:
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* Diomedes goes on a rampage through the Trojan army, killing everyone he comes across, wounding Aphrodite and Ares, forcing the God of War to flee from him. The Trojans fear him more than ACHILLES (though the fact that he stayed in his tent for 90% of the poem probably factored into that), the only person who he couldn't defeat was Hector, the greatest Trojan warrior, and that was because Zeus himself sent a thunderbolt to tell Diomedes to not fight him. Even more so when you realize that Diomedes, unlike Achilles, is [[{{BadassNormal}} ''fully mortal'']].''[[{{BadassNormal}} fully mortal]]''. Here is what Helenus, Hector's brother and a seer says about him:
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* [[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking Agamemnon!]] Contrary to some post-Homeric portrayals, in Book 2, he's said to have the:
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* [[AuthorityEqualsAssKicking [[RankScalesWithAsskicking Agamemnon!]] Contrary to some post-Homeric portrayals, in Book 2, he's said to have the:
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** In Book 11, Agamemnon has his ''aristeia'' or day of glory and is killing Trojans left and right like a [[UnstoppableRage killing machine]], forcing them all to flee, and his day of glory is most similar to Achilles' in style and structure, even HECTOR is told to stay away by Zeus.
* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power is no idle thing.
* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power is no idle thing.
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** In Book 11, Agamemnon has his ''aristeia'' or day of glory and is killing Trojans left and right like a [[UnstoppableRage killing machine]], forcing them all to flee, and his day of glory is most similar to Achilles' in style and structure, even HECTOR Hector is told to stay away by Zeus.
* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power is no idlething.thing.
* Ajax the Great has his title for a reason. Possessed of strength, courage, and a cunning mind, he was the only warrior in the entire Iliad to not even be ''wounded'', and while he was one of the deadliest heroes in the poem, all of his actions were purely defensive and in response to the enemy's advances. He often held the line singlehandedly, with Book 15 being of special note as he leapt from ship to ship wielding a spear.
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* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power is no idle
* Ajax the Great has his title for a reason. Possessed of strength, courage, and a cunning mind, he was the only warrior in the entire Iliad to not even be ''wounded'', and while he was one of the deadliest heroes in the poem, all of his actions were purely defensive and in response to the enemy's advances. He often held the line singlehandedly, with Book 15 being of special note as he leapt from ship to ship wielding a spear.
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* Patroclus taking Achilles' armour, rousing the Greeks, chasing back the Trojans who were starting to burn the Greek ships, killing Sarpedon (the son of Zeus!), and almost scaling the walls of Troy until Apollo intervenes and Patroclus is killed by Hector.
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* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power was no idle thing.
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* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power was is no idle thing.
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** In Book 11, Agamemnon has his ''aristeia'' or day of glory and is killing Trojans left and right like a [[UnstoppableRage killing machine]], forcing them all to flee, and his day of glory is most similar to Achilles' in style and structure, even HECTOR is told to stay away by Zeus.
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** In Book 11, Agamemnon has his ''aristeia'' or day of glory and is killing Trojans left and right like a [[UnstoppableRage killing machine]], forcing them all to flee, and his day of glory is most similar to Achilles' in style and structure, even HECTOR is told to stay away by Zeus.Zeus.
* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power was no idle thing.
* When Achilles is being battered by the river God Scamander, Hera sends Hephaestus to intervene with his flame. [[KillItWithFire His flames burn everything upon the plains and boils the river Scamander]], the God declaring: "Hephaistos, not one of the gods could stand up against you. I for one could not fight the flame of a fire like this one." [[DisabledDeity Crippled he may be]], Hephaestus' power was no idle thing.
