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* In the Wii version of the game, Starkiller's mission to Cloud City to find Senator Garm Bel Iblis to help form the Rebel Alliance is one big mission of awesome. The Sith Apprentice forms an unexpected BuddyCopShow with Lobot of all people, allying with the cyborg and his Bespin Wing Guard to kill and repel numerous mercenaries and criminals of the most powerful and infamous crime syndicate, the Black Sun, attacking Cloud City, including the Gungan bounty hunter Kleef, a number of Mandalorians and the mercenary and crime lord Chop'aa Notimo, saving Garm who had been taken hostage by them.
** In the same mission, Lobot in his introduction to Starkiller gets a moment of awesome when he is able to NoSell the powerful Sith Apprentice's attempt at a Jedi Mind Trick, startling Starkiller.
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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still prevailed over the Jedi Grand Master. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable put them on the ground]].

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever briefly beaten by Mace Windu using [[DangerousForbiddenTechnique Vaapad]], and pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still prevailed over the Jedi Grand Master. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable put them on the ground]].



** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literally charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.

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** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, without the advantage of Vaapad, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literally charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.
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** Making it even more karmic still, if both Sidious and Vader had been fighting together against Starkiller on the Death Star there is little doubt they would have won the battle, but because of the nature of the Sith ChronicBackstabbingDisorder they were both clearly hoping to use him to kill and replace the other Sith Lord, thus it was the FatalFlaw of the Order of the Sith Lords that made it possible for Starkiller to fight and [[DividedWeFall defeat them both individually]] and save the Rebel Alliance.

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** Making it even more karmic still, if both Sidious and Vader had been fighting together against Starkiller on the Death Star there is little doubt they would have won the battle, but because of the nature of the Sith ChronicBackstabbingDisorder they were both clearly hoping to use him to kill and replace the other Sith Lord, thus it was the FatalFlaw of the Order of the Sith Lords that made it possible for Starkiller to fight and [[DividedWeFall defeat them both individually]] and individually]], save the Rebel Alliance.Alliance and bring about the Order's downfall.
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** Making it even more karmic still, if both Sidious and Vader had been fighting together against Starkiller on the Death Star there is little doubt they would have won the battle, but because of the nature of the Sith ChronicBackstabbingDisorder they were both clearly hoping to use him to kill and replace the other Sith Lord, thus it was the FatalFlaw of the Order of the Sith Lords that made it possible for Starkiller to fight and [[DividedWeFall defeat them both individually]] and save the Rebel Alliance.
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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them]]. He undoes and causes their schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself]] by turning to the Light Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same or worse life circumstances, proves that [[LoveRedeems love and attachment]] to someone doesn't lead to the Dark Side, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them]]. He undoes and causes their schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, Lords in front of the leaders of the Rebel Alliance, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself]] by turning to the Light Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same or worse life circumstances, proves that [[LoveRedeems love and attachment]] to someone doesn't lead to the Dark Side, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.
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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still prevailed over the Jedi Grand Master. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and put them on the ground.

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still prevailed over the Jedi Grand Master. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and [[DefeatingTheUndefeatable put them on the ground.ground]].
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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them]]. He undoes and causes their schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself]] by turning to the Light Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same or worse life circumstances, proves that love and attachment to someone doesn't lead to the Dark Side, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them]]. He undoes and causes their schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself]] by turning to the Light Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same or worse life circumstances, proves that [[LoveRedeems love and attachment attachment]] to someone doesn't lead to the Dark Side, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.
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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them]]. He undoes and causes their schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself]] by turning to the Light Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them]]. He undoes and causes their schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself]] by turning to the Light Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same or worse life circumstances, proves that love and attachment to someone doesn't lead to the Dark Side, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.
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---> '''Juno''': "Sometime soon, [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre ''you'']] will decide the [[BeenThereShapedHistory fate of the rebellion]]. Not your [[AbusiveParents ''Master'']]. And when you're faced with that moment... just remember... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."

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---> '''Juno''': "Sometime soon, [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre ''you'']] you]] will decide the [[BeenThereShapedHistory fate of the rebellion]]. Not your [[AbusiveParents ''Master'']].Master]]. And when you're faced with that moment... just remember... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."
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* Juno Eclipse giving Starkiller a WhatTheHellHero speech followed by a DareToBeBadass when she finds out he is still following Vader's orders in gathering the Rebel leaders to form the Rebel Alliance, in order to lure them into a trap.
---> '''Juno''': "Sometime soon, ''you'' will decide the fate of the rebellion. Not your ''Master''. And when you're faced with that moment... just rememeber... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."

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* Juno Eclipse giving Starkiller a WhatTheHellHero speech followed by a DareToBeBadass to reexamine his loyalties when she finds out he is still following Vader's orders in gathering the Rebel leaders to form the Rebel Alliance, in order to lure them into a trap.
---> '''Juno''': "Sometime soon, ''you'' [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre ''you'']] will decide the [[BeenThereShapedHistory fate of the rebellion. rebellion]]. Not your ''Master''.[[AbusiveParents ''Master'']]. And when you're faced with that moment... just rememeber...remember... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."
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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still prevailed over the Jedi Grandmaster. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and put them on the ground.

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still prevailed over the Jedi Grandmaster.Grand Master. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and put them on the ground.
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** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literately charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.

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** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literately literally charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.
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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, being the one to use their own Dark Side power against them. He undoes their plans, redeems himself by turning to the Light Side, makes the better choice Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, breaking his shackles and being the one to [[TheDogBitesBack use their own Dark Side training and power against them. them]]. He undoes and causes their plans, schemes for the Rebels to backfire, fights and humiliates both Sith Lords, [[RedemptionEqualsDeath redeems himself himself]] by turning to the Light Side, Side and dying a Jedi like his father before him, makes the better choice that Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.
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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still previaled over the Jedi Grandmaster. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and put them on the ground.

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda'', yet still previaled prevailed over the Jedi Grandmaster. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and put them on the ground.
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*** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literately charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.
*** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, being the one to use their own Dark Side power against them. He undoes their plans, redeems himself by turning to the Light Side, makes the better choice Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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*** ** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literately charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.
*** ** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, being the one to use their own Dark Side power against them. He undoes their plans, redeems himself by turning to the Light Side, makes the better choice Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.
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*** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, being the one to use their own Dark Side power against them. He undoes their plans, redeems himself by turning to the Light Side, makes the better choice Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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*** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, being the one to use their own Dark Side power against them. He undoes their plans, redeems himself by turning to the Light Side, makes the better choice Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of the Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda''.

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda''.''Yoda'', yet still previaled over the Jedi Grandmaster. He is the only Star Wars character who has managed to single handedly take on both Dark Lords of the Sith and put them on the ground.



*** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literately charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.

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*** Made even more awesome in the novel, where not only does Starkiller wipe the floor with Palpatine, but it turns out that the massive explosion was caused by him literately charging himself to the max and turning Palpatine's attack against him.him, grabbing him and redirecting Palpatine's own Force Lightning back through him, causing the old man to howl in agony. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.dying.
**** Then there is the karmic and poetic justice of a Sith Apprentice like Starkiller, who has suffered at the hands of both Dark Lords of the Sith as their slave and victim, being the one to use their own Dark Side power against them. He undoes their plans, redeems himself by turning to the Light Side, makes the better choice Anakin didn't despite suffering the same life circumstances, and sets into motion the downfall of the Order of Sith Lords and Galactic Empire by saving the leaders of the Rebel Alliance.
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** PROXY. Just...PROXY. He jumps Galen disguised as ''Obi-Wan,'' and later jumps him at the most inopportune time (intentionally) finally turning himself into '''Darth freaking Maul''' while explaining that he's deliberately withheld that particular program for all these years in case it took him ''years'' to accomplish his programming, so it would provide maximum surprise. He also pulls the Obi-Wan trick one more time against Vader on Corellia, buying Galen time to escape. He is quickly dealt with, of course, but his HeroicSacrifice was still quite awesome, especially in light of his aforementioned attacks on Galen in the past. And the most awesome part is the choice of disguise, considering 'who'' is he attacking. If you look, you can tell that that threw Vader for a moment.

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** PROXY. Just...PROXY. He jumps Galen disguised as ''Obi-Wan,'' and later jumps him at the most inopportune time (intentionally) finally turning himself into '''Darth freaking Maul''' while explaining that he's deliberately withheld that particular program for all these years in case it took him ''years'' to accomplish his programming, so it would provide maximum surprise. He also pulls the Obi-Wan trick one more time against Vader on Corellia, buying Galen time to escape. He is quickly dealt with, of course, but his HeroicSacrifice was still quite awesome, especially in light of his aforementioned attacks on Galen in the past. And the most awesome part is the choice of disguise, considering 'who'' ''who'' is he attacking. If you look, you can tell that that threw Vader for a moment.



* Starkiller throws Shaak Ti into the sarlaac's mouth. Is that the end of the fight. [[NotSoFastBucko Nope]]. Shaak Ti reveals she can control the creature and rises to the surface on its tentacle.

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* Starkiller throws Shaak Ti into the sarlaac's mouth. Is that the end of the fight. fight? [[NotSoFastBucko Nope]]. Shaak Ti reveals she can control the creature and rises to the surface on its tentacle.
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** Props '''must''' be given to Darth Vader in the non-canonical Dark Side ending. After being subjected to a Force equivalent of a NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, which gave him injuries equivalent to the ones he sustained on [[Film/RevengeOfTheSith Mustafar]], not only did he keep standing, he gave Starkiller a much harder fight than before.
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** Blow a hole? It was [[UpToEleven LITERALLY TORN IN HALF!]]

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* The entire fight between Starkiller and Darth Vader in the Kaminoan cloning facility is basically the fight against Darth Vader in its predecessor turned UpToEleven.

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* The entire fight between Starkiller and Darth Vader in the Kaminoan cloning facility is basically the fight against Darth Vader in its predecessor turned UpToEleven.up a notch.
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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and defeated ''Yoda''.
*** Kind of subverted in the novel, however, which shows that Palpatine was merely pretending to be a weak old man in order to get Starkiller to embrace his hatred and join the Dark Side for good. It does hook Palpatine with his own CMOA in the Light Side ending, where Palpatine, despite being at the center of a massive explosion caused by Starkiller, seems like he's none the worse for wear, despite the whole area around him being absolutely devastated.

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** Think about it: Starkiller defeats Darth Vader, who has killed plenty of more experienced Jedi, taught Starkiller himself, and curbstomped him ''twice'' early on. Then, not 30 seconds later, he fights Palpatine and ''wins.'' Keep in mind, this is the guy who orchestrated the downfall of the Jedi and defeated ''Yoda''.
was only ever pressured to where it seemed he would lose by ''Yoda''.
*** Kind of subverted Made even more awesome in the novel, however, which shows that Palpatine was merely pretending to be a weak old man in order to get where not only does Starkiller to embrace his hatred and join wipe the Dark Side for good. It does hook Palpatine floor with his own CMOA in the Light Side ending, where Palpatine, despite being at but it turns out that the center of a massive explosion was caused by Starkiller, seems like he's none him literately charging himself to the worse for wear, despite the whole area around him being max and turning Palpatine's attack against him. Even though it kills him, he knocks both Vader ''and'' Palpatine out, and absolutely devastated.devastated the entire Death Star. Afterwards, Palpatine even begrudgingly admits he had failed despite Starkiller dying.

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* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of evidence for what an ImplacableMan Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes lightning will release so much energy, and arc off in so many directions, that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for the entire time the lightning is hitting him, but there's a powerful white glow flashing all around him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget Vader's suit making him vulnerable to electricity, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a question of the upper limit of what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to survive this, suit or no suit, is a testament to what a monster in the Force he is.

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* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of great evidence for if you want to remind your friends what an ImplacableMan and MadeOfIron monster Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes Very powerful lightning will release so much energy, and arc off is capable of arcing in so many directions, directions that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for during the entire time barrage of lightning, and only falls over once Starkiller has ceased attacking -- despite the lightning is hitting him, but there's enveloping him in so much electrical energy that a powerful white glow flashing all around vortex of energy surrounds him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget the vulnerability Vader's suit making him vulnerable has to electricity, electric shock, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a to the question of the of upper limit of limits to what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. handle. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be quite simply should have been flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to fried, cooked inside and out from the extreme heat, and yet not only does he survive this, suit or this but it leaves him with no suit, permanent injuries. To say Vader is a testament to what a monster in the Force is an understatement.
** By implication this also gives Palpatine a bit of extra merit, as if
he is.needed it. It's been shown throughout the expanded universe that even if Vader's suit gets disabled he's able to give himself life support through the Force in order to sustain himself until he can get his suit repaired. The novel explains that Vader got his suit enhanced to withstand Force lightning, since Force lightning helped Starkiller beat him in the first Force Unleashed novel. Obviously the lightning rod went beyond the limits of his suit, but nevertheless Vader held on to life. Palpatine's lightning hit Vader for a far shorter amount of time than Starkiller's did, and yet Vader expired mere minutes after being exposed to it. Palpatine is truly one of the strongest Dark Side users ever to be able to do that to Vader.
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* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of evidence for what an Implacable Man Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes lightning will release so much energy, and arc off in so many directions, that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for the entire time the lightning is hitting him, but there's a powerful white glow flashing all around him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget Vader's suit making him vulnerable to electricity, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a question of the upper limit of what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to survive this, suit or no suit, is a testament to what a monster in the Force he is.

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* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of evidence for what an Implacable Man ImplacableMan Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes lightning will release so much energy, and arc off in so many directions, that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for the entire time the lightning is hitting him, but there's a powerful white glow flashing all around him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget Vader's suit making him vulnerable to electricity, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a question of the upper limit of what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to survive this, suit or no suit, is a testament to what a monster in the Force he is.
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* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of evidence for what an ImplaceableMan Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes lightning will release so much energy, and arc off in so many directions, that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for the entire time the lightning is hitting him, but there's a powerful white glow flashing all around him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget Vader's suit making him vulnerable to electricity, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a question of the upper limit of what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to survive this, suit or no suit, is a testament to what a monster in the Force he actually is.

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* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of evidence for what an ImplaceableMan Implacable Man Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes lightning will release so much energy, and arc off in so many directions, that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for the entire time the lightning is hitting him, but there's a powerful white glow flashing all around him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget Vader's suit making him vulnerable to electricity, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a question of the upper limit of what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to survive this, suit or no suit, is a testament to what a monster in the Force he actually is.
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* "He is no Jedi. A Jedi controls his emotions and his powers. But Starkiller... he does not know restraint. He will bring down an entire Star Destroyer on your head, if that is what it takes to kill you."

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* "He is no Jedi. A Jedi controls his emotions and his powers. But Starkiller... he does not know restraint. He will bring down an entire Star Destroyer on your head, if that is what it takes to kill you.""
* Vader's defeat by Force Lightning is actually an incredible piece of evidence for what an ImplaceableMan Darth Vader actually is. The average voltage range of a lightning strike is 300 million volts. Lightning temperatures cap off at 50,000 degrees, which is '''hotter than the surface of the sun.''' Sometimes lightning will release so much energy, and arc off in so many directions, that it can cover hundreds of miles in a single flash. Starkiller took the electric potency of the lightning coming off the lightning rods, infused its energy with his own Force lightning (meaning this is stronger than regular lightning) and attacked Vader with it for close to 40 seconds straight. Vader not only remains standing for the entire time the lightning is hitting him, but there's a powerful white glow flashing all around him, lighting him up like a bright neon sign. It's no exaggeration to say that the lightning would have felt more painful than the lava that burned him on Mustafar (remember, 50,000 degrees), and yet Vader is such a beast he tried to push through the lightning. Forget Vader's suit making him vulnerable to electricity, this moves beyond the suit as an issue, but as a question of the upper limit of what an organic being should be able to tolerate at all. At those voltages, at those temperatures, and with a sustained blast of electricity no organic matter should be able to survive -- Vader would be flash fried in a way that would make napalm victims seem lucky. Vader's ability to survive this, suit or no suit, is a testament to what a monster in the Force he actually is.
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---> '''Juno''': "Some day soon, ''you'' will decide the fate of the rebellion. Not your ''Master''. And when you're faced with that moment... just rememeber... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."

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---> '''Juno''': "Some day "Sometime soon, ''you'' will decide the fate of the rebellion. Not your ''Master''. And when you're faced with that moment... just rememeber... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."
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* Juno Eclipse giving Starkiller a WhatTheHellHero speech followed by a DareToBeBadass when she finds out he is still following Vader's orders in gathering the Rebel leaders to form the Rebel Alliance, in order to lure them into a trap.
---> '''Juno''': "Some day soon, ''you'' will decide the fate of the rebellion. Not your ''Master''. And when you're faced with that moment... just rememeber... that I too was forced to leave behind everything I've ever known. Please... don't make me leave another life behind."

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