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* ''ComicBook/{{Titans|Rebirth}}'' finally, at long last, reintroduces Lilith Clay/Omen as a true hero and member of the Titans. After being KilledOffForReal as if she was just CListFodder in the poorly-received BatFamilyCrossover ''ComicBook/{{Titans}}[=/=]ComicBook/YoungJustice: Graduation Day'', getting her death hugely downplayed by the death of Donna Troy (who didn't truly die, and came back a few years later), staying dead for the rest of the original continuity, ''then'' being brought back in the ComicBook/New52 as an InNameOnly ''villain'', the writers remembered who she was and reinstated her as a core Titan. They even established the New 52 version as being [[DecompositeCharacter a separate character]], to make sure there was no confusion.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Titans|Rebirth}}'' ''ComicBook/TitansRebirth'' finally, at long last, reintroduces Lilith Clay/Omen as a true hero and member of the Titans. After being While she got highlighted as a mentor figure in ''ComicBook/TeenTitans1996'' and some casual appearances in ''ComicBook/Titans1999'', she was KilledOffForReal as if she was just CListFodder in the poorly-received BatFamilyCrossover ''ComicBook/{{Titans}}[=/=]ComicBook/YoungJustice: Graduation Day'', ''ComicBook/TitansYoungJusticeGraduationDay'', getting her death hugely downplayed by the death of Donna Troy (who didn't truly die, and came back a few years later), staying dead for the rest of the original continuity, continuity (except as a zombie. TWICE.), ''then'' being brought back in the ComicBook/New52 as an InNameOnly a ''villain'', the writers remembered who she was decided to revert her appearance back to one akin to her early Silver Age appearances in ''ComicBook/TitansHunt'' before finally gaining a costumed superhero era as Omen.
* After the BadassDecay that Bette Kane went through in ''ComicBook/{{Batwoman}}'', having her Flamebird mantle get ExiledFromContinuity in replacement for Hawkfire,
and reinstated then outright PutOnABus at the start of the Rebirth run of Detective Comics; the 2023 anthology one-shot story "The Birds and the Bees" from ''DC's Legion of Bloom'' finally returns Bette Kane to her original mantle as a core Titan. They even established Flamebird as well as includes the New 52 version as being [[DecompositeCharacter a separate character]], to make sure there was no confusion.first appearance of the Titans West since the 1970s.
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* There were fans who were ''not'' happy with the popular version of Lobo being replaced with a teenage-looking version with the original version being declared a fake. There were fans happy to learn that this would be declared a lie, with the ''real'' Main Man returning in the pages of ''Justice League of America''. As an added bonus, the "[[{{Bishonen}} pretty boy]]" Lobo was [[spoiler: [[TakeThatScrappy disposed of by being shrunken down and trapped]] in one of Comicbook/{{Brainiac}}'s jars]].

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* There were fans who were ''not'' happy with the popular version of Lobo being replaced with a teenage-looking version with the original version being declared a fake. There were fans happy to learn that this would be declared a lie, with the ''real'' Main Man returning in the pages of ''Justice League of America''. As an added bonus, the "[[{{Bishonen}} pretty boy]]" "{{pretty boy}}" Lobo was [[spoiler: [[TakeThatScrappy disposed of by being shrunken down and trapped]] in one of Comicbook/{{Brainiac}}'s jars]].
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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''The Flash #761'' [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]] It also helps that Creator/DanDiDio, his most notorious hater, was ousted from DC for good around the time this story was released.

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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane has a breakdown and inadvertantly becomes a mass murderer.]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''The Flash #761'' [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]] It also helps that Creator/DanDiDio, his most notorious hater, was ousted from DC for good around the time this story was released.
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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''The Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]]

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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''The Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]] It also helps that Creator/DanDiDio, his most notorious hater, was ousted from DC for good around the time this story was released.

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Flash Forward was entirely about Wally trying to prove himself after this screw up, and "Wally Manhattan" trying to rewrite the timeline was not supposed to be a good thing, which is why it was dropped almost immediately.


** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''Flash Forward'', in which this is not acknowledged and he is spoken of as a great hero, and ''The Flash #750'', which shows Wally [[spoiler:as the new [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]] hinting he could save the universe and retcon the story out fully]]. It also helps that Creator/DanDiDio, his most notorious hater, was ousted from DC for good around the time this story was released.
** HOWEVER. ''The Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]]
** The annual for [[ComicBook/TheFlashInfiniteFrontier the Infinite Frontier Flash book]] would finally reveal that [[spoiler:the Speed Force explosion that caused the murders in the first place was caused by Savitar trying to break free.]]

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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''Flash Forward'', in which this is not acknowledged and he is spoken of as a great hero, and ''The Flash #750'', which shows Wally [[spoiler:as the new [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]] hinting he could save the universe and retcon the story out fully]]. It also helps that Creator/DanDiDio, his most notorious hater, was ousted from DC for good around the time this story was released.
** HOWEVER.
''The Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]]
** The annual for [[ComicBook/TheFlashInfiniteFrontier the Infinite Frontier Flash book]] would finally reveal that [[spoiler:the Speed Force explosion that caused the murders in the first place was caused by Savitar trying to break free. Wally wasn't responsible.]]
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* And one final fix in ''The One Minute War'': [[spoiler: Nobody even really died! Gold Beetle rescued them all, then kept them at Vanishing Point while she figured out what to do next.]]

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* ** And one final fix in ''The One Minute War'': [[spoiler: Nobody even really died! Gold Beetle rescued them all, then kept them at Vanishing Point while she figured out what to do next.]]
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* And one final fix in ''The One Minute War'': [[spoiler: Nobody even really died! Gold Beetle rescued them all, then kept them at Vanishing Point while she figured out what to do next.]]
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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[TooBleakStoppedCaring in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the token black teammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.

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* One of the [[DorkAge [[AudienceAlienatingEra many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[TooBleakStoppedCaring in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the token black teammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.
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** The annual for [[ComicBook/TheFlashInfiniteFrontier the Infinite Frontier Flash book]] would finally reveal that [[spoiler:the Speed Force explosion that caused the murders in the first place was caused by Savitar trying to break free.]]
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!!''ComicBook/DCRebirth''
''AKA'', the entire goal behind the initiative.

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''AKA'', the entire goal behind the initiative.
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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the token black teammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.

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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy [[TooBleakStoppedCaring in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the token black teammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.
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* The New 52's changes to Tim Drake's backstory were also undone, as confirmed in issue #965 of ''Detective Comics''.
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* ''ComicBook/{{Titans|Rebirth}}'' finally, at long last, reintroduces Lilith Clay/Omen as a true hero and member of the Titans. After being KilledOffForReal as if she was just CListFodder in the poorly-received BatFamilyCrossover ''ComicBook/{{Titans}}[=/=]ComicBook/YoungJustice: Graduation Day'', getting her death hugely downplayed by the death of ComicBook/DonnaTroy (who didn't truly die, and came back a few years later), staying dead for the rest of the original continuity, ''then'' being brought back in the ComicBook/New52 as an InNameOnly ''villain'', the writers remembered who she was and reinstated her as a core Titan. They even established the New 52 version as being [[DecompositeCharacter a separate character]], to make sure there was no confusion.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Titans|Rebirth}}'' finally, at long last, reintroduces Lilith Clay/Omen as a true hero and member of the Titans. After being KilledOffForReal as if she was just CListFodder in the poorly-received BatFamilyCrossover ''ComicBook/{{Titans}}[=/=]ComicBook/YoungJustice: Graduation Day'', getting her death hugely downplayed by the death of ComicBook/DonnaTroy Donna Troy (who didn't truly die, and came back a few years later), staying dead for the rest of the original continuity, ''then'' being brought back in the ComicBook/New52 as an InNameOnly ''villain'', the writers remembered who she was and reinstated her as a core Titan. They even established the New 52 version as being [[DecompositeCharacter a separate character]], to make sure there was no confusion.
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* Creator/GregRucka allowed for the removal of the idea that Diana's powers are due to her father, a highly controversial addition to her New 52 backstory. While this made it possible for her to return to the core of her character as originally intended, as a woman whose powers and strength come from her relationships with other women and have no ties to men. This particular save was later dashed by Robinson pulling back in her New 52 origin as Zeus' daughter.[[note]]Presumably due to the success of Film/WonderWoman2017, which kept this aspect of her origin as the only part from the New 52, but included other well-liked aspects from prior origins.[[/note]]

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* Creator/GregRucka allowed for the removal of the idea that Diana's powers are due to her father, a highly controversial addition to her New 52 backstory. While this made it possible for her to return to the core of her character as originally intended, as a woman whose powers and strength come from her relationships with other women and have no ties to men. This particular save was later dashed by Robinson pulling back in her New 52 origin as Zeus' daughter.[[note]]Presumably due to the success of Film/WonderWoman2017, ''Film/WonderWoman2017'', which kept this aspect of her origin as the only part from the New 52, but included other well-liked aspects from prior origins.[[/note]]
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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the TokenBlackTeammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.

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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the TokenBlackTeammate token black teammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.
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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast, and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.

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* One of the [[DorkAge many]] criticisms of the New 52 ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' was that, in an initiative advertised as being friendly to new readers, the well-known and well-liked ''WesternAnimation/TeenTitans'' cartoon apparently had absolutely no influence (none of the show's cast was on the team, the ones that could be found elsewhere were almost InNameOnly, and the good-humored all-ages tone was nowhere to be found [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy in the book itself]]). In response to this, ''ComicBook/TeenTitansRebirth'' seems to be wearing the original cartoon on its sleeve, with a similar art style, a close recreation of the cast, cast[[note]]Starfire, Raven, and Beast Boy are present, though the Robin that appears is Damian Wayne rather than Dick Grayson, and the TokenBlackTeammate is Kid Flash (Wallace West), and later Aqualad (Jackson Hyde), rather than Cyborg[[/note]], and a much brighter tone than the New 52 ''Titans''. It even features Damian Wayne, the current Robin of the team, delivering a TakeThat to the previous team, dismissing them as a bad joke.

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This trope is about plot developments. Also, Snyder being popular means that replacing him is hardly a saving throw.


* While Scott Snyder's Franchise/{{Batman}} run was popular among fans, many were glad to hear that the ''other'' fan-favourite ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}'' writer, Tom King, would be headlining the new ''Batman'' ongoing. And that Snyder would get his own self-contained series as well, in ''All-Star Batman''.



* There were fans who were ''not'' happy with the popular version of Lobo being replaced with a teenage-looking version with the original version being declared a fake. There were fans happy to learn that this would be declared a lie, with the ''real'' Main Man returning in the pages of ''Justice League of America''.
* As an added bonus, the "[[{{Bishonen}} pretty boy]]" Lobo was [[spoiler: [[TakeThatScrappy disposed of by being shrunken down and trapped]] in one of Comicbook/{{Brainiac}}'s jars]].

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* There were fans who were ''not'' happy with the popular version of Lobo being replaced with a teenage-looking version with the original version being declared a fake. There were fans happy to learn that this would be declared a lie, with the ''real'' Main Man returning in the pages of ''Justice League of America''.
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America''. As an added bonus, the "[[{{Bishonen}} pretty boy]]" Lobo was [[spoiler: [[TakeThatScrappy disposed of by being shrunken down and trapped]] in one of Comicbook/{{Brainiac}}'s jars]].
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** HOWEVER. ''They Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]]

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** HOWEVER. ''They ''The Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]]
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** HOWEVER. ''They Flash #761'' would fix the above even more by [[spoiler:revealing that Flash nemesis Eobard Thawne used the Negative Speed Force to send hypnotic messages to all the members of the Flash Family, causing all of them to behave out of character. This also included coaxing Wally into covering up the accidental murders.]]
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* After many complaints about how ComicBook/CaptainAtom was derailed into being too much like Doctor Manhattan, the mini-series ''The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom'' reverts his powerset to that of his 1980s launch. It also reintroduces several elements from that run that were praised by readers. Doesn't hurt that Cary Bates and Greg Weisman are behind his CharacterRerailment.

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* After many complaints about how ComicBook/CaptainAtom was derailed into being too much like Doctor Manhattan, ironically his {{Expy}}, the mini-series ''The Fall and Rise of Captain Atom'' reverts his powerset to that of his 1980s launch. It also reintroduces several elements from that run that were praised by readers. Doesn't hurt that Cary Bates and Greg Weisman are behind his CharacterRerailment.
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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]]

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** This throw is later fumbled when [[spoiler: Wally goes insane and becomes a mass murderer.]]]] Fortunately, this got its own saving throw with ''Flash Forward'', in which this is not acknowledged and he is spoken of as a great hero, and ''The Flash #750'', which shows Wally [[spoiler:as the new [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Doctor Manhattan]] hinting he could save the universe and retcon the story out fully]]. It also helps that Creator/DanDiDio, his most notorious hater, was ousted from DC for good around the time this story was released.
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* Creator/GregRucka allowed for the removal of the idea that Diana's powers are due to her father, a highly controversial addition to her New 52 backstory. While this made it possible for her to return to the core of her character as originally intended, as a woman whose powers and strength come from her relationships with other women and have no ties to men. This particular save was later dashed by Robinson pulling back in her New 52 origin as Zeus' daughter.

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* Creator/GregRucka allowed for the removal of the idea that Diana's powers are due to her father, a highly controversial addition to her New 52 backstory. While this made it possible for her to return to the core of her character as originally intended, as a woman whose powers and strength come from her relationships with other women and have no ties to men. This particular save was later dashed by Robinson pulling back in her New 52 origin as Zeus' daughter.[[note]]Presumably due to the success of Film/WonderWoman2017, which kept this aspect of her origin as the only part from the New 52, but included other well-liked aspects from prior origins.[[/note]]
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* While Scott Snyder's Franchise/{{Batman}} run was divisive among fans, many were glad to hear that the ''other'' fan-favourite ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}'' writer, Tom King, would be headlining the new ''Batman'' ongoing. And that Snyder would get his own self-contained series as well, in ''All-Star Batman''.

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* While Scott Snyder's Franchise/{{Batman}} run was divisive popular among fans, many were glad to hear that the ''other'' fan-favourite ''ComicBook/{{Grayson}}'' writer, Tom King, would be headlining the new ''Batman'' ongoing. And that Snyder would get his own self-contained series as well, in ''All-Star Batman''.
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**But this didn't affect every DC character, [[spoiler: during Tom King's Batman run, Catwoman is convinced to refuse to marry Batman because she believes he shouldn't be HappilyMarried and protecting the city at the same time (though it turns out Bane orchestrated this as part of another attempt at breaking Batman).]]

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